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Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 24991	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:33:00 - [181] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: The fact that it is pretty looking changes nothing. Dust's failures were fundamentally in game design and execution. You should expect no different from the LEGION team (same guys, I am pretty sure). True, but to of the biggest problems DUST had/has/always will have are: It's on the PS3 and has a horrible engine... two problems the PC version will not have. Also: Yea, EVE is about spaceships, but only because CCP hasn't figured out how to make it about anything else yet. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 6389	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:49:00 - [182] - Quote Shalua Rui wrote: Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: The fact that it is pretty looking changes nothing. Dust's failures were fundamentally in game design and execution. You should expect no different from the LEGION team (same guys, I am pretty sure). True, but to of the biggest problems DUST had/has/always will have are: It's on the PS3 and has a horrible engine... two problems the PC version will not have. Also: Yea, EVE is about spaceships, but only because CCP hasn't figured out how to make it about anything else yet. True enough. We can also realistically expect better from the same guys. People learn from mistakes and improve, so while they might not be able to re-mold it to the best FPS ever, it'll likely be a much better and more polished version of the same concept. The butt hurt of Dusties might make them too irrational to take a calm look at the situation though. Yes what a corporation told to you in their marketing speeches didn't translate in to reality. It sucks, but unless DUST was your first ever online game, it shouldn't come to you as a surprise.
Erufen Rito The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 200	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:56:00 - [183] - Quote Holly **** guys. I had no clue the Dust community was so rotten. Then again, I don't spend much time with the Plebs o3o This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165
Fiddlestax Atruin Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:57:00 - [184] - Quote On the twitch feed (when they were attempting to run damage control) they asked for our feedback. Giving your feedback on the dust boards gets your post deleted and your account banned at the moment. It has clearly become an issue of censoring dissent, a few questions that CCP needs to answer... A simple question though: How long has CCP known that they were going to be scrapping dust for legion? Is it proper that they continued to accept payment for aurum and SP boosters, while only "maybe" being able to move characters to the next iteration? They decided to run an event this week. In the event, you got bonus SP for using a AURUM suit. Is it proper that they ran this event just days before they announced that they were scrapping the project to work on Legion, and that they weren't sure if they would be able to transfer characters across the platforms?
Ashwind Houssa 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:10:00 - [185] - Quote Shalua Rui wrote: That's one way to look at it... another would be: CCP has learned from the mistakes they made with DUST and know what they are doing now. I mean, it might be a bummer for the people that really enjoyed DUST, but essentially, in a way, the game may just have been a long beta test for what is to come... Be that as it may, from what can see right now, Legion looks promising enough... at the very least it has a solid graphics engine now. For a little perspective, the video you saw was a minor reworking of an existing Dust map section. The models were most likely existing elements, as they already had to be downsampled for the PS3. Dust being as bad as it was was not merely due to the engine choice. The visuals just could not serve as enough of a coat of gloss for the awful game design underneath. The team in Shanghai has so far shown a distinct refusal to come to grips with core FPS balance mechanics, and there is no indication that they are even close to understanding that. When Legion is "launched" I hope it goes better than Uprising 1.0.
Dalloway Jones Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:19:00 - [186] - Quote Yikes! DUST forums are even scarier than EVE forums.
Lugia3 Emerald Inc. Easily Excited 939	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:26:00 - [187] - Quote Those dust bunny tears were glorious. Hold on, I need to fly to a dust bunny system and extract more. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1211	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:42:00 - [188] - Quote Tysun Kane wrote: CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion. Please explain how exactly? Does this legion have spaceship dogfighting and 150 detailed worlds you can land on and walk upon? Does it have zero-g firefights and ship boarding. Nope. Don't think so. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 5143	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:44:00 - [189] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: Tysun Kane wrote: CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion. Please explain how exactly? Does this legion have spaceship dogfighting and 150 detailed worlds you can land on and walk upon? Does it have zero-g firefights and ship boarding. Nope. Don't think so. Neither does Star Citizen. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Hoban Gallifrey New Eden University 15	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:55:00 - [190] - Quote Apparently they are getting up to 90 days worth of refunds from Sony!

Belt Scout Forum alts make you mad 352	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:16:00 - [191] - Quote hmmph,...Went to do a service call figuring this thread would be locked by now. I'm impressed people. /slow clap Lugia3 wrote: Those dust bunny tears were glorious. Hold on, I need to fly to a dust bunny system and extract more. Can we suicide gank the orbital bombers? There may be some untapped tears there. Def some lulz anyway. EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 3218	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:34:00 - [192] - Quote Dalloway Jones wrote: Yikes! DUST forums are even scarier than EVE forums. I don't blame them. Some of us actually purchased all the BPOs and stuff in Beta. That was real cash going out for what CCP promised would be EvE-like perpetual development and eventual melding of the markets. Now not only is CCP reneging on that promise, it looks like the game is not even in development anymore. There will never be a link. The servers will shut down and whatever was purchased is just wiped. CCP isn't even communicating with the DUST players at this point. Nothin'. Now people who bought things within the last 3 months have figured out they can call up Sony and get a refund if they threaten a charge-back. many are. It's a real mess. Too bad I bought my stuff so long ago... I wish I could at least get refunded in PLEX but that probably won't happen. DUST players just got burned. Meh. You can go read their forums and watch the debacle. Threads are getting deleted, though (not just locked). Be careful. Don't get caught up in the vitriol... people are getting banned. Just watch a community melt down. cockandballs. Every. Time. EvE Spaceship Guide Works in game only and not updated often
Ravcharas Infinite Point Nulli Secunda 319	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:39:00 - [193] - Quote Gogela wrote: [quote=Dalloway Jones]Just watch a community melt down. That is really sad. One of the upshots for Eve was that Dust might be a gateway into spaceships for players who were interested in the Eve universe but hesitant to take the plunge on spreadsheets in space.
Kymn Mahn Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:39:00 - [194] - Quote Shalua Rui wrote: Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: Dust 514 was a complete failure. None of it's lofty goals were reached in it's nearly year of release. CCP demonstrated quite clearly that they are incapable of making/balancing a FPS, console or not. You should not waste your time or money on LEGION... It won't be good, and you WILL be lied to. That's one way to look at it... another would be: CCP has learned from the mistakes they made with DUST and know what they are doing now. I mean, it might be a bummer for the people that really enjoyed DUST, but essentially, in a way, the game may just have been a long beta test for what is to come... Be that as it may, from what can see right now, Legion looks promising enough... at the very least it has a solid graphics engine now. You mean like they learned from all the mistakes in eve ......
Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 24995	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:53:00 - [195] - Quote Kymn Mahn wrote: You mean like they learned from all the mistakes in eve ...... Hm, good point... but they learned something... not only the right, though. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 146	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:10:00 - [196] - Quote I'd like to take a look at it....But if I have time to play....It's pretty much EVE....or the occassional match of Unreal Tournament III...
Noriko Mai 1265	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:29:00 - [197] - Quote A small collection from Lord Mandelor
Solecist Project's Alt Wildly Inept Pacifists 20	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:33:00 - [198] - Quote Noriko Mai wrote: A small collection from Lord Mandelor LIFE SAVINGS! If somebody really is that stupid, then ... well ... I guess he didn't want that money anyway. xD
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys 1729	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:41:00 - [199] - Quote I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Sure legion will still have to compete with planetside 2, but it may finally be possible to see some decent eve integration down the line which could be cool. Also, the fact that the dustbunnies were kind enough to beta test it for us is a plus. Noriko Mai wrote: A small collection from Lord Mandelor
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 2468	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:42:00 - [200] - Quote PL has a fairly large FPS crowd, this is pretty sweet Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 5164	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:44:00 - [201] - Quote Solecist Project's Alt wrote: Noriko Mai wrote: A small collection from Lord Mandelor LIFE SAVINGS! If somebody really is that stupid, then ... well ... I guess he didn't want that money anyway. xD Sometimes Darwin chucks some chlorine into the gene pool now and again. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Liam Inkuras Chaotic Tranquility 969	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:02:00 - [202] - Quote Dat sun glare like BF3 doe. I wear my goggles at night. Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
London Justified Chaos 58	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:29:00 - [203] - Quote This is awesome, this is what we wanted... Dust on PC. Nobody should be bitching other than those afflicted with consolitis.
Yolanda Flame IskGrenade 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:38:00 - [204] - Quote The rage runith over on the DUST forums. http://www.iskgrenade.com
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1857	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:49:00 - [205] - Quote Grath Telkin wrote: PL has a fairly large FPS crowd, this is pretty sweet Your battlefield recordings were indeed hilarious to listen to. :P BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Harbonah Rubicon Spears 62	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:18:00 - [206] - Quote I played Dust for about three days when it hit beta. I never picked it up again. Poor design, lack of meanful EVE interaction, bad balance, poor performance. I was personally disappointed when I was told it was coming out on PS3. I gave it a bit of a trial and was only reinforced in my opinion that it would not be a good game. I don't know a single EVE player that has particpated or cared about Dust or it's limited options for EVE interaction. I am not convinced it will be a successful PC game either until they can make it interact meaningfully with EVE. In terms of EVE, nobody cares about Dust and there is no reason to.
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1857	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:23:00 - [207] - Quote Not all of the Dust tears taste delicious. I felt genuinely sorry for this guy. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Tavin Aikisen Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 259	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:35:00 - [208] - Quote Shalua Rui wrote: Beofryn Sedorak wrote: EVE: Legion is CCP Recognizing the failures of DUST 514 and taking the smartest route available to solve most of the those problems, Leveraging the experience gained from their failures. Who every really believed DUST would be successful anyways... I mean, seriously: A free2play FPS explusive to a (soon to be) dying console? Who thought that was a good iea? Who would invest in something like that? I suppose I did. My hope was that it would eventually shift across to the PS4, gain traction and popularity, true connection to EVE Online and then it'd be ported to PC and merge into one game. Or at least launch from the same login screen. Wasn't that always CCP's vision? It's now apparent the logical reason is to build it for the Master Race and THEN try porting it to other platforms. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind
Cyinii Erkkinen Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:39:00 - [209] - Quote Tavin Aikisen wrote: Shalua Rui wrote: Beofryn Sedorak wrote: EVE: Legion is CCP Recognizing the failures of DUST 514 and taking the smartest route available to solve most of the those problems, Leveraging the experience gained from their failures. Who every really believed DUST would be successful anyways... I mean, seriously: A free2play FPS explusive to a (soon to be) dying console? Who thought that was a good iea? Who would invest in something like that? I suppose I did. My hope was that it would eventually shift across to the PS4, gain traction and popularity, true connection to EVE Online and then it'd be ported to PC and merge into one game. Or at least launch from the same login screen. Wasn't that always CCP's vision? It's now apparent the logical reason is to build it for the Master Race and THEN try porting it to other platforms. So are you Kiirtama Oinatsu? If so, I had no clue the whole time you were there in the chromosome build lol
Silent Rambo Legion of Seven 160	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:43:00 - [210] - Quote Noriko Mai wrote: BIind Shot: Eve online is full of the biggest, fattest, greasiest neckbeards this world has ever known. This is the most hilariously accurate thing I've ever seen. You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies?



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