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Noriko Mai
1250
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:29:00 -
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\o/ |

Salvo Aivo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:32:00 -
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and here I am, sill not caring. |

leavemymomalone idiot
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:34:00 -
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i for one will be getting my feet dusty :)
when do ywe get to send isk to our dust bunnies?? |

Vicar2008
Mindstar Technology Get Off My Lawn
83
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:40:00 -
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About freaking time, it was never going to fully work on PS3. Well done CCP on finally getting it right. |

Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
122
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:41:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring.
I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC.
About frickin' time, CCP!
-x |

Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1379
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:43:00 -
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Finally. A smart move! |

Salvo Aivo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:43:00 -
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Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP! 
have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards. |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3124
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:43:00 -
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While I may utterly suck at FPSes I may actually try that out just because. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Beofryn Sedorak
34
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:44:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring.
And here you are caring enough to post about it. Had you truly not cared, you wouldn't have put in the effort to make a post. |

Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
946
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:45:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards.
its free to try - and I'll try it on PC. Not going to try it on a dead platform I don't own a compatible unit for. Honestly I played warframe, so I can't possibly be said to have particularly high standards when it comes to an FPS.
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GazBoi08
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
13
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:47:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards.
you seem really uptight, do you want a hug? |

Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:47:00 -
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Only solid decision they could make apart from sending it the World Of Darkness route. I think it will do much better on PC especially if its free. It could attract a lot of casual players who do not care for console crap. Making it console only while having to compete with much, much better games (BF3 and such) was pretty much suicide. *Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1836
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:48:00 -
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Kickass There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Rikanin
30plus Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
94
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 -
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Beofryn Sedorak wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. And here you are caring enough to post about it. Had you truly not cared, you wouldn't have put in the effort to make a post.
or even bothered reading the thread for that matter. |

Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Upholders
1037
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 -
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They have rocks now!
And trees!
And trees on fire! |

Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
122
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards.
It seems as though you're mad that I don't care about you not caring about Dust coming to PC.
I'm sorry for this. My intent was not to troll you. It was merely to let you know that I don't care about the fact that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. It seems as though you really care about what the EVE community feels about you not caring about Dust coming to PC. In the same way, I'm very interested in letting the EVE community know that I don't care about the fact that you don't care about Dust coming to PC.
Either that or we're both just trolling .....
-x |

Noriko Mai
1250
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:50:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards. FPS on console? *ROFLCOPTER* |

Vladimir Gurney
BeneViolence
21
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:50:00 -
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Yes! I never played Dust because I absolutely hate playing First Person Shooters on consoles.
As long as it's still F2P I will try it out when it is released. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
253
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:53:00 -
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A very wise decision CCP. Thank you! :) Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

TedStriker
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:54:00 -
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what a strange keynote that was....
1. hi i'm the new guy 2. hi...that was our last update (1.8) 3. oh...btw...yea, we will port it to PC
...done
So....it was kinda...nothing really new, no stats about Dust (1 stat from a year ago), no new content (better grafics), no new gameplay....
yea...strange. i hope it takes off on PC....or else i see this going by the fish.
BUT....PROPS for finally getting it....PC is the only chance for this....then port it back to PS4/XBone |
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Tysun Kane
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:55:00 -
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CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion. |

Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
123
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:56:00 -
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TedStriker wrote:what a strange keynote that was....
1. hi i'm the new guy 2. hi...that was our last update (1.8) 3. oh...btw...yea, we will port it to PC
...done
So....it was kinda...nothing really new, no stats about Dust (1 stat from a year ago), no new content (better grafics), no new gameplay....
yea...strange. i hope it takes off on PC....or else i see this going by the fish.
BUT....PROPS for finally getting it....PC is the only chance for this....then port it back to PS4/XBone
You have the best EVE name I've ever seen.
Tell me, have you gotten over your drinking problem? 
-x |

Salvo Aivo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:58:00 -
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GazBoi08 wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards. you seem really uptight, do you want a hug?
Oh I'm tight alright, and a hug isn't what will fix it  |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
9
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:01:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:GazBoi08 wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards. you seem really uptight, do you want a hug? Oh I'm tight alright, and a hug isn't what will fix it  Let me help you out...
*cough*
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Jurou Yuan
Hakkaisuo Corporation Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
89
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:01:00 -
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Awesome. A pc port of a game nobody cares about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! |

Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
123
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:03:00 -
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Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game I don't care about because it's 5 years behind anything already out!
Fixed that for you. -x |

TedStriker
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:03:00 -
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Xavier Holtzman wrote:You have the best EVE name I've ever seen. Tell me, have you gotten over your drinking problem? 
Not yet, but i'm trying to drink more to get a grip on it ... |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
10
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:04:00 -
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Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game nobody cares about because it's 5 years behind anything already out!
It's not a port it's an entirely different game from Dust 514. |

Beofryn Sedorak
34
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:04:00 -
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Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game nobody cares about because it's 5 years behind anything already out!
(Enjoy this post before it get's deleted)
LOL @ THE IGNORANT KID!
"A game nobody cares about" despite the explosion of excitement and cries of victory from a large portion of the CCP fanbase.
I think you've confused your own opinion of it as fact. You should get that looked at bro.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1838
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:05:00 -
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I will def be trying this out.
Is this what the "Legion" trademark was all about? BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
11
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:05:00 -
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Threadnaught incoming? |

Noriko Mai
1251
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:07:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:I will def be trying this out.
Is this what the "Legion" trademark was all about? yes |

Ender Attor
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:08:00 -
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This will become a Threadnaught.
Ps3 Bunnies are complaining, I will ask this it will be a separate port right? I didn't quiet hear all of it things said.
I suck at FPS's but this game will be bought and played. About time CCP killed Star Citizen |

Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
192
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:08:00 -
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oh the aimbots. anyways, im glad they ported it to pc, it atleast gives the game a chance of surviving. |

Gabriel Z
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
34
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:09:00 -
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Maybe I'll finally get around to trying it now.
Ender Attor wrote:About time CCP killed Star Citizen Dream on. |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
12
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:10:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=728
Poor Dust bunnies. 
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Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
253
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:12:00 -
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It's a shame we lose the DUST title though. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
342
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:12:00 -
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It would be awesome if they switched Dust back to the Carbon engine. Carbon would fry a console, and I assume that's the reason for using Unreal 3.
12gigs of gddr5 here issues the challenge. Use the Carbon engine CCP. 
. EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
641
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:12:00 -
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Hoban Gallifrey wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=728 Poor Dust bunnies. 
They are ******* hilarious... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
12
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:13:00 -
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The ISD are depolyed to Dust Forums for damge control!  |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5653
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:14:00 -
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Called it. So very long ago, along with so many others.
PC is the platform they should have had from the beginning. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1433
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:15:00 -
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Well, they never denied that there could be a PC port of Dust.
As much of how I dislike where EVE is heading at the moment, like there's no captain onboard with a clear heading, I hope Dust will start to work out for CCP now.
And hopefully they can really start interconnecting the two together, cause what's possible now is, I'm sorry to say, rubbish. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5653
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:17:00 -
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And speaking for the PC master race, the PS3 might have limited following...
But we are legion. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6385
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:18:00 -
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Tavin Aikisen wrote:It's a shame we lose the DUST title though. No it isn't. Dust is and always has been a terrible title. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1842
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:18:00 -
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This anouncement made my day for several reasons.
One of them being that I intend to go read the Dust forums in a bit.
...Am I a bad person? BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
254
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:19:00 -
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DUST 514 has effectively just become Legion on less than minimal settings. ;) Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5653
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:21:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:This anouncement made my day for several reasons.
One of them being that I intend to go read the Dust forums in a bit.
...Am I a bad person?
Ripard Teg thinks so.
I, on the other hand, am going into their forums with my galoshes on. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
13
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:21:00 -
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You guys need to read the dust forums... 
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=728
It's like looking back through time to Incarna... |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
367
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:22:00 -
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I just wish they'll make the dust on pc via the eve client so we'll get double skill sheet one for eve \ 1 for dust action.. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3127
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:23:00 -
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This will also make incorporating DUST into sovereignty warfare. Alliances can then choose to fight it out on the ground, in space or both. This does open up a whole realm of new possibilities. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
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BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
66
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:25:00 -
[51] - Quote
If Dust characters can't be transferred over to Legion can I suggest you DON'T send anyone from the Dust team down to EvE Down Under this year. You won't be getting a warm welcome from the Aus Dust players. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5653
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:25:00 -
[52] - Quote
Hey, now I'll have something I can play to wait out global criminal countdown timers. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
346
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:27:00 -
[53] - Quote
Replace the running with guns on a planet with running with guns in a station, and they might have something.  EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1434
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:27:00 -
[54] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:This will also make incorporating DUST into sovereignty warfare. Alliances can then choose to fight it out on the ground, in space or both. This does open up a whole realm of new possibilities.
Yeah as it should have been from day 1. Dumbest idea ever to split your 1 universe over 2 different access points.
Oh, ps any dust dev reading, your help is needed on the dust forums, they're kinda exploding right now.  |

Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
174
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
It was about time...I might even give it a shot  |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
82
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
I feel bad for the dust players on PS3. All their time is basically now wasted. Just a pity that they cut of the Q&A session after the keynote. Woulda had beeing hillarious if the dust players lynched the dev on stage.
And lol people thinking that this will actually do any good. There are so many FPS titles on PC and it directly has to compete with planetside 2. I predict a massive player drop on the PS3 after this "keynote". You cant even barely call that a keynote, they just advertised dust for PC and thats it. poor performance compared to last years keynote if ya ask me. |

Gothikia
Regeneration
271
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:30:00 -
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Contrary to what people think (and what I personally hoped) this IS NOT DUST FOR PC?!
Confused? Yeah, read this:
http://dust514.com/news/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/
Pay attention to this part:
Quote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of.
So is Dust being killed and Legion is replacing it? <3 Gothie |

Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
148
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:30:00 -
[58] - Quote
Hmm. Did the French guy say DUST was coming to PC? I thought he was talking about the part of the game called PC. The part that has been taken over by Dirt Nap Squad. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5657
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:31:00 -
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Cheng Musana wrote:I feel bad for the dust players on PS3. All their time is basically now wasted. Just a pity that they cut of the Q&A session after the keynote. Woulda had beeing hillarious if the dust players lynched the dev on stage.
And lol people thinking that this will actually do any good. There are so many FPS titles on PC and it directly has to compete with planetside 2. I predict a massive player drop on the PS3 after this "keynote". You cant even barely call that a keynote, they just advertised dust for PC and thats it. poor performance compared to last years keynote if ya ask me.
Planetside 2 has been running itself into the ground for months now.
Their only real competition is Team Fortress 2 and Titanfall, which are both high quality FPS games with good exposure. That said, TF2 is older and more outdated than DUST is, and Titanfall has a purchase price.
There's a niche for it, believe me. If they put it on Steam, even for 5 bucks, they'll be rolling. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5118
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:33:00 -
[60] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:Oh, ps any dust dev reading, your help is needed on the dust forums, they're kinda exploding right now. 
/laughs maniacally
I guess they should not have fired MC.
The people calling for refunds are particularly amusing, I may need to relocate a few buckets today and stock up on popcorn before the EVE keynote. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
67
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:34:00 -
[61] - Quote
Gothikia wrote:Contrary to what people think (and what I personally hoped) this IS NOT DUST FOR PC?! Confused? Yeah, read this: http://dust514.com/news/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/Pay attention to this part: Quote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of.
So is Dust being killed and Legion is replacing it?
Yip to most of us Dust peeps it sounds an awful lot like "Hey we're releasing EvE 2 on Ipad it'll be totally sweet. Oh and we'll fix a couple of bug in EvE maybe."
CCP you think maybe you can actually go into the Dust forums and explain wtf is going on here? |

Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
425
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:35:00 -
[62] - Quote
I will give it a try.
But it would be really sweet if CCP let's you take you Eve Online character over to Legion. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
379
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:35:00 -
[63] - Quote
Oh god, reading the DUST forums is the funniest thing right now  |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
14
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:38:00 -
[64] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:I feel bad for the dust players on PS3. All their time is basically now wasted. Just a pity that they cut of the Q&A session after the keynote. Woulda had beeing hillarious if the dust players lynched the dev on stage.
And lol people thinking that this will actually do any good. There are so many FPS titles on PC and it directly has to compete with planetside 2. I predict a massive player drop on the PS3 after this "keynote". You cant even barely call that a keynote, they just advertised dust for PC and thats it. poor performance compared to last years keynote if ya ask me.
There was no Q&A session, possible on purpose, they went straight to a round table. |

Ender Attor
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:38:00 -
[65] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:This anouncement made my day for several reasons.
One of them being that I intend to go read the Dust forums in a bit.
...Am I a bad person?
I am also reading the Dust Forums and yes, the tear are glorious and taste ooooh so nice,
Wait does that make me a bad person? |

Robertis Olacar
Touring New Eden Haven.
33
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:39:00 -
[66] - Quote
Have to say am looking forward to this! |

Gothikia
Regeneration
271
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:41:00 -
[67] - Quote
I also am looking forward to this, but the Dust Bunny rage on their forums is gut busting hilarity. <3 Gothie |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5119
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:42:00 -
[68] - Quote
Meanwhile on the Dust forums...
Lawyers are coming out..
E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Tear bucket filling quickly The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1847
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:43:00 -
[69] - Quote
Despite the rage on the Dust forums about how Legion will be the game THEY wanted, they fail to realise one thing:
CCP could still repeat the Dust fiasco and completely **** up with EVE Legion. 
Hope they dont though. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Foxstar Damaskeenus
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
120
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:44:00 -
[70] - Quote
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! |
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1434
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:44:00 -
[71] - Quote
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150763/meet-project-legion-the-epic-new-first-person-pc-shooter-from-eve-onlines-creators.html
Funny:
Quote:I mean, is it Dust on PC?
JCG: No! There's some pieces of it, absolutely. There's a studio that's spent five years building a shooterGÇöyou don't throw that away.
No we wait 8 years, then we trow it away like WoD. 
 |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1119
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:45:00 -
[72] - Quote
There is a thread in thread in there called "don't biomass!" Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:50:00 -
[73] - Quote
I don't much care that DUST is moving to the PC. I do care that CCP did a blatant bait and switch on the dust community just before FanFest.
There were a TON of events that encouraged us to buy Aurum to maximize the rewards from the events. They basically tried to squeeze Aurum sales to the max before they abandon the PS3 community.
That's low. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4858
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 14:50:00 -
[74] - Quote
AWESOME!
THIS IS BEST NEWS IN A LONG TIME
WHY AM I YELLING? BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING OVER HOW AWESOME THIS IS Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
704
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:52:00 -
[75] - Quote
All the Dusties crying on their forum is pretty hilarious.
Coreli Corporation: Small gang PVP & Drug Production, Apply now! |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1848
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:52:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:There is a thread in thread in there called "don't biomass!"
Im looking at the Dust forums right now, there is atleast 5+ pages of rage threads.
Too bad they dont have a monument to shoot.
Still, the impotence of the rage makes it all the more glorious. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1434
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 14:53:00 -
[77] - Quote
Cat Troll wrote:I don't much care that DUST is moving to the PC. I do care that CCP did a blatant bait and switch on the dust community just before FanFest.
There were a TON of events that encouraged us to buy Aurum to maximize the rewards from the events. They basically tried to squeeze Aurum sales to the max before they abandon the PS3 community.
That's low.
Read this linky: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150763/meet-project-legion-the-epic-new-first-person-pc-shooter-from-eve-onlines-creators.html
Dust remains dust, till legion takes over if they ever get it of the ground, with the lessons learned from dust. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5121
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
You can definitely tell the player base for DUST is a lot younger.
Now there is a call for CCP to send players free high-performance PCs.
You just can't make this stuff up.
Ooh, they know we're watching them too!
/waves
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
379
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 14:53:00 -
[79] - Quote
I'm torn between whether this news is better than WoD getting one in the back of the head. Incidentally, for the WIS enthusiasts, this actually steps in the right direction for them to see some possible future developement. |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 14:55:00 -
[80] - Quote
DUST becomes the barely supported step child CCP doesn't care about, while Legion gets all the resources poured into it.
DUST is dead, the biggest faces of the community are saying "**** you" and either biomassing their characters or are shaking their heads in disgust.
Not for the move to the PC, rather how they abandon the PS3 community without even saying a word at the keynote. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
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Gothikia
Regeneration
273
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:55:00 -
[81] - Quote
Even though this is awesome, yes, we should also remember something very important.
CCP has now spent our sub money on two games that they've now cancelled. It might be time that CCP sit down and give us a better explanation (either at EVE Keynote, or CCP Presents) on why they've wasted our money in this way and why we should trust them with Legion. If this is going to be "What we should have done in the first place with Dust", then we want to know why you ****** up, where you ****** up and why what you're doing now is different and isn't going to be a waste of money.
At least I think all of us (even the dust bunnies) deserve that. You actually have to sell us on Legion since we're the ones who are (and will) spend money on it. <3 Gothie |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1851
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:56:00 -
[82] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote: Ooh, they know we're watching them too!
/waves
Yup.
Oooh! Maybe they will link this topic in their topic and we can have cross forum smack talking!
A dream come true! Im just...sooo happy. ;-; BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
14
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:00:00 -
[83] - Quote
"Eve online is full of the biggest, fattest, greasiest neckbeards this world has ever known. They can laugh at us now but we get to laugh at them every time they step out of their mom's basements. Eve, "space exploration". I gave it a try. Was more like spread sheet exploration."
Ouch, ok maybe we all need to calm down...  |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5124
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:01:00 -
[84] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:Doc Fury wrote: Ooh, they know we're watching them too!
/waves
Yup.Oooh! Maybe they will link this topic in their topic and we can have cross forum smack talking! A dream come true! Im just...sooo happy. ;-;
Stop, stop.... The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
367
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:01:00 -
[85] - Quote
Nop. its their money. you paid for eve sub you got the sub. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5664
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:01:00 -
[86] - Quote
An excerpt from their forums:
Dusties wrote:Eve online is full of the biggest, fattest, greasiest neckbeards this world has ever known. They can laugh at us now but we get to laugh at them every time they step out of their mom's basements.
Well, he's right about one thing. We can laugh at them now. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
347
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:02:00 -
[87] - Quote
The only thing the Gheystation3 console peasants can do now is stop being poor and build a pc (or have their grandma's buy them one) to play their game on.
How long can anyone expect a game to be supported on an outdated platform?  EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:02:00 -
[88] - Quote
Hoban Gallifrey wrote:"Eve online is full of the biggest, fattest, greasiest neckbeards this world has ever known. They can laugh at us now but we get to laugh at them every time they step out of their mom's basements. Eve, "space exploration". I gave it a try. Was more like spread sheet exploration." Ouch, ok maybe we all need to calm down...  I think the hate on either communities is misguided.
But DUST players have every right to be mad at CCP for the bait and switch moves CCP did right before FanFest. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4859
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:03:00 -
[89] - Quote
I have always liked Eve Online plus on FPS game. From 2006 until early 2012 that FPS game was COD2. For years I played COD2 until one day I tried to log into my usual server and it was gone. 
Since then no FPS game and I have moved on with my computers and never installed COD2 while forlornly looking on at the console kiddies as they played DUST.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Kymn Mahn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:03:00 -
[90] - Quote
and still another "team" to take away from eve, so nothing new or big for eve.. waits for SC |
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LOL56
Galactic Express
70
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:04:00 -
[91] - Quote
**** YA, I will be able to play DUST without walking 6 blocks in the cold now. |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
348
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:06:00 -
[92] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:An excerpt from their forums: Dusties wrote:Eve online is full of the biggest, fattest, greasiest neckbeards this world has ever known. They can laugh at us now but we get to laugh at them every time they step out of their mom's basements. Well, he's right about one thing. We can laugh at them now.
I wonder if the dustbunny suits come with drains. Hopefully they don't fill all the way up with tears and drown the occupant.
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
14
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:07:00 -
[93] - Quote
Kymn Mahn wrote: and still another "team" to take away from eve, so nothing new or big for eve.. waits for SC
Team was taken from DUST not EVE.
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Tysun Kane
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:08:00 -
[94] - Quote
This is the best one imo https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=158690&find=unread |

Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
125
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:08:00 -
[95] - Quote
Kymn Mahn wrote: and still another "team" to take away from eve, so nothing new or big for eve.. waits for SC
Something tells me you'll be waiting a looooooong time.  -x |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1853
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:08:00 -
[96] - Quote
One of my fav parts in that topic:
dustguy1 wrote:dustguy2 wrote:Brilliant comeback. I'm glad your time at the DNSBlack school of thinking paid off. Next you'll say you were joking about crying over this and that you aren't legitimately upset.
Who is DNS black an eve tard . wait who are you? Oh never mind my tears are flooding my basement oh wait I don't live in my basement like you.
Note that the one asking who DNS black is happens to be part of Dirt Nap Squad on dust. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3130
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:10:00 -
[97] - Quote
Reading the DUST forum makes it difficult to feel any sympathy for them... Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
9
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:11:00 -
[98] - Quote
Belt Scout wrote:The only thing the Gheystation3 console peasants can do now is stop being poor and build a pc (or have their grandma's buy them one) to play their game on. How long can anyone expect a game to be supported on an outdated platform? 
excuse me, listen little boy or it.. but I hope you know sony has 77+ million players and plenty of games on their end. they helped CCP out on much despite your insult.. if I were you I'd take 50 ft stepping backwards. cause last time I looked this game is no where near that amount of players on a network. you must be a Xsnot drone mad still cause your voice comm is recording your every move. no worry easier to find your location that way.. you're the peasants.. we're the kings. |

Gerdan BloodELF
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
15
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:11:00 -
[99] - Quote
Dust Bunnies really need to "Harden The F*** Up". There tears are very entertaining. |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
13
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:13:00 -
[100] - Quote
That one guy is hilarious. History repeats itself, he said.
That's true my boy, but unlike you bunnies, we kick CCPs ass if they **** us up. :) |
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Gabriel Z
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
36
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:15:00 -
[101] - Quote
Gothikia wrote:CCP has now spent our sub money on two games that they've now cancelled. You spent your sub money to play EVE. What they do after that isn't really any of your business. If you enjoy what they're giving you access to, keep subbed. If not, don't.
While I agree that CCP could do almost everything better, that weird sort of logic that CCP is "accountable" to the playerbase is ludicrous.
Milla Goodpussy wrote:sony has 77+ million players and plenty of games on their end. cause last time I looked this game is no where near that amount of players on a network. Whatever. Dust only ever had 3500 or so on at any time, so that 77 million wasn't doing any of us a whole lot of good. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
168
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:15:00 -
[102] - Quote
I'll just put this here.
https://twitter.com/tallardar/status/462244184561582080 LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Ravcharas
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
313
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:16:00 -
[103] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:Reading the DUST forum makes it difficult to feel any sympathy for them... I missed Hilmar's introduction, but did they announce anything new and exciting for Dust players? It seemed to me there was the year in review and by the way we're doing this Legion thing on the PC ok bye.
I can understand why they are losing their ****. I kinda wished they did it with proper punctuation, but I can understand it. |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
82
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:17:00 -
[104] - Quote
To be honest what they showed at the keynote barely had better graphics then dust on PS3. And i wonder how long CCP will take to actually port it over to PC. Didnt they mentioned it somewhat around a year? I would be more interested in those things:
-can the dust toons be taken from the PS3 to the PC? (cause its still TQ server i suppose) -will assets, ISK and SP be wiped? -What will the buisness modell be? (F2P, subscription or retail release) -if its going to be sub based will it aswell be allowed to extend the sub by buying PLEX? (same market i suppose) -is the PS3 Dust variant maybe used for cross play? (PC-PS3?)
Im kinda dissapointed by CCP that they are not releasing more information about this. Im worried that they screw up like they did with WOD. As far as it goes CCP only delivered 1 single game that is successfull and thats Eve online. Everything else is subpar or a total desaster. |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1310
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:17:00 -
[105] - Quote
Finally!!! I still don't understand why CCP wasted resources on some stupid console game. The Tears Must Flow |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
257
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:19:00 -
[106] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:Reading the DUST forum makes it difficult to feel any sympathy for them...
Call of Duty Ghosts 3 Modern Warfare 6 will be out next week. They'll be over it shortly. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
168
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:21:00 -
[107] - Quote
Tavin Aikisen wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Reading the DUST forum makes it difficult to feel any sympathy for them... Call of Duty Ghosts 3 Modern Warfare 6 will be out next week. They'll be over it shortly.
Such is the case with the ADD rattled brains of console kiddies. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
239
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:21:00 -
[108] - Quote
Love it! |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
349
|
Posted - 2014.05.02 15:21:00 -
[109] - Quote
Tavin Aikisen wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Reading the DUST forum makes it difficult to feel any sympathy for them... Call of Duty Ghosts 3 Modern Warfare 6 will be out next week. They'll be over it shortly.
Yeah they will put a different number on the box and the console tarts will think it's a whole new game and fork over their grandma's 60 bucks.
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Gothikia
Regeneration
273
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:23:00 -
[110] - Quote
Gabriel Z wrote:Gothikia wrote:CCP has now spent our sub money on two games that they've now cancelled. You spent your sub money to play EVE. What they do after that isn't really any of your business. If you enjoy what they're giving you access to, keep subbed. If not, don't. While I agree that CCP could do almost everything better, that weird sort of logic that CCP is "accountable" to the playerbase is ludicrous.
Yeah, I agree with you pretty much. But after knowing CCP for nearly 11 years for me now, it's disheartening to see products part of the EVE Universe (which I've invested in) actually fail. I wanted Dust to be greatly successful, and the same thing with WoD. I think they could have made something truly unique with that, but sadly now we'll never know.
I'm just worried that history is going to repeat itself with Project Legion, which I'm greatly excited about. <3 Gothie |
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True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
179
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:24:00 -
[111] - Quote
Quote:(Enjoy this post before it get's deleted)
LOL @ THE IGNORANT KID!
"A game nobody cares about" despite the explosion of excitement and cries of victory from a large portion of the CCP fanbase.
I think you've confused your own opinion of it as fact. You should get that looked at bro.
It is a game that nobody cares about. Their weekly max concurrency is <6k, it has a tiny, cult following, just like most games do, even star wars galaxies and warhammer online had cries of sadness when they announced the closure, they'll always be someone out there who thinks something is great.
What cries of victory are you talking about exactly? from the Fanfest stream perhaps? if so, you're taking what scientists would say is something along the lines of an biased sample group. Fanfest is the biggest most dedicated fans of CCP grouped into one place, of course they are going to cheer the game on no matter what.
Dust plays poorly, it's graphics are poor, the UI sucks, the tutorial is eve-quality. it's a bad game and it has been from day one. |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
349
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:25:00 -
[112] - Quote
Milla Goodpussy wrote:Belt Scout wrote:The only thing the Gheystation3 console peasants can do now is stop being poor and build a pc (or have their grandma's buy them one) to play their game on. How long can anyone expect a game to be supported on an outdated platform?  excuse me, listen little boy or it.. but I hope you know sony has 77+ million players and plenty of games on their end. they helped CCP out on much despite your insult.. if I were you I'd take 50 ft stepping backwards. cause last time I looked this game is no where near that amount of players on a network. you must be a Xsnot drone mad still cause your voice comm is recording your every move. no worry easier to find your location that way.. you're the peasants.. we're the kings.
Please kid, go walk the dog or something. There's adults trying to have a convo on this forum.
Don't try to compare the greatest sci-fi mmo in existence to a poorly planned joke of a shooter intended to milk the simple minds of the console poptarts.
.
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

John Ending
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:26:00 -
[113] - Quote
I will try this. |

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
324
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:26:00 -
[114] - Quote
And not a single **** was given that day.
Oh yeah, I'll give it a try. I'm still more stoked about Valkyrie, though. |

This Suxbad
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:27:00 -
[115] - Quote
Wonder if CCP will simplify DUST enough for them to realize that is terrible. Making terrible addons must be a better idea than working on increasing your stagnant active player base. Everyone create another alt so they can say subscriptions went up :p Definition of blob is more friends than you! Do you play eve or play eve for others? |

Beofryn Sedorak
35
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:28:00 -
[116] - Quote
Gothikia wrote:Gabriel Z wrote:Gothikia wrote:CCP has now spent our sub money on two games that they've now cancelled. You spent your sub money to play EVE. What they do after that isn't really any of your business. If you enjoy what they're giving you access to, keep subbed. If not, don't. While I agree that CCP could do almost everything better, that weird sort of logic that CCP is "accountable" to the playerbase is ludicrous. Yeah, I agree with you pretty much. But after knowing CCP for nearly 11 years for me now, it's disheartening to see products part of the EVE Universe (which I've invested in) actually fail. I wanted Dust to be greatly successful, and the same thing with WoD. I think they could have made something truly unique with that, but sadly now we'll never know. I'm just worried that history is going to repeat itself with Project Legion, which I'm greatly excited about.
EVE: Legion is CCP Recognizing the failures of DUST 514 and taking the smartest route available to solve most of the those problems, Leveraging the experience gained from their failures.
|

Ender Attor
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:29:00 -
[117] - Quote
Sadly it would appear the DUSTies have hardened the **** up and realised that Legion and Dust are seperate games....I enjoyed that rage |

Aspalis
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
594
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:29:00 -
[118] - Quote
Milla Goodpussy wrote:Belt Scout wrote:The only thing the Gheystation3 console peasants can do now is stop being poor and build a pc (or have their grandma's buy them one) to play their game on. How long can anyone expect a game to be supported on an outdated platform?  excuse me, listen little boy or it.. but I hope you know sony has 77+ million players and plenty of games on their end. they helped CCP out on much despite your insult.. if I were you I'd take 50 ft stepping backwards. cause last time I looked this game is no where near that amount of players on a network. you must be a Xsnot drone mad still cause your voice comm is recording your every move. no worry easier to find your location that way.. you're the peasants.. we're the kings.
I'll invite you onto my mumble server and you can cry about it some more while I rub my nipples. How about that? |

Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:30:00 -
[119] - Quote
At first i though they brought Dust to the PC, but it is this all newish game "Legion"? I do understand however what the plan is:
- They can't port Dust directly to PC because of contract stuff with Sony. - Dust itself is probably broken beyond repair. - So they try again with a new FPS which will: 1. Incorporate the good stuff from Dust. 2. Get them to revoke the contract with Sony without too much legal hassle.
And when the new FPS is out and runs relatively well, they kill off Dust. Which to me seems a game which loses money anyway, so the reasoning behind all this is solid.
If its free and on the PC i am going to try it anyway. I wasn't willing to buy some crappy console as masterrace PC dude, so they never got me for Dust anyway.
*Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24945
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:31:00 -
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Beofryn Sedorak wrote:EVE: Legion is CCP Recognizing the failures of DUST 514 and taking the smartest route available to solve most of the those problems, Leveraging the experience gained from their failures.
Who every really believed DUST would be successful anyways... I mean, seriously: A free2play FPS explusive to a (soon to be) dying console? Who thought that was a good iea? Who would invest in something like that? "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
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This Suxbad
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:31:00 -
[121] - Quote
.[/quote]
EVE: Legion is CCP Recognizing the failures of DUST 514 and taking the smartest route available to solve most of the those problems, Leveraging the experience gained from their failures. [/quote]
They must have more experience than they know what to do with. Guess they are saving it up for later. Definition of blob is more friends than you! Do you play eve or play eve for others? |

Beofryn Sedorak
35
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:35:00 -
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Cheng Musana wrote:To be honest what they showed at the keynote barely had better graphics then dust on PS3. And i wonder how long CCP will take to actually port it over to PC. Didnt they mentioned it somewhat around a year? I would be more interested in those things:
-can the dust toons be taken from the PS3 to the PC? (cause its still TQ server i suppose) -will assets, ISK and SP be wiped? -What will the buisness modell be? (F2P, subscription or retail release) -if its going to be sub based will it aswell be allowed to extend the sub by buying PLEX? (same market i suppose) -is the PS3 Dust variant maybe used for cross play? (PC-PS3?)
Im kinda dissapointed by CCP that they are not releasing more information about this. Im worried that they screw up like they did with WOD. As far as it goes CCP only delivered 1 single game that is successfull and thats Eve online. Everything else is subpar or a total desaster.
It is literally impossible for them to "screw up like they did with WOD". The reason for them failing at WoD is because they couldn't even get close to their vision. At a minimum, EVE: Legion is ALREADY closer to a deliverable product than WoD ever was as it's just a fork of DUST 514. |

SKINE DMZ
S U P R E M E - M A T H E M A T I C S A Band Apart.
463
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:45:00 -
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I played DUST514 on the PS3 a couple of times, wasn't great in the state I played it in. Very excited for Legion however, all looks pretty good, great move CCP. 
Also DUST514 forums keeping me entertained, that kinda whining wouldn't survive here it is beautiful. I disagree
RAWR IM TOUGH |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21452
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:48:00 -
[124] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:I played DUST514 on the PS3 a couple of times, wasn't great in the state I played it in. Very excited for Legion however, all looks pretty good, great move CCP.  Also DUST514 forums keeping me entertained, that kinda whining wouldn't survive here it is beautiful. It's basically their summer of rage: GÇ£You know that thing we promised for so long? Well, yeah, noGǪ here's something else.GÇ¥ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
169
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:48:00 -
[125] - Quote
Higgs Foton wrote:At first i though they brought Dust to the PC, but it is this all newish game "Legion"? I do understand however what the plan is:
- They can't port Dust directly to PC because of contract stuff with Sony. - Dust itself is probably broken beyond repair. - So they try again with a new FPS which will: 1. Incorporate the good stuff from Dust. 2. Get them to revoke the contract with Sony without too much legal hassle.
And when the new FPS is out and runs relatively well, they kill off Dust. Which to me seems a game which loses money anyway, so the reasoning behind all this is solid.
If its free and on the PC i am going to try it anyway. I wasn't willing to buy some crappy console as masterrace PC dude, so they never got me for Dust anyway.
They explained, Legion is more of a prototype much like EVR was. They're developing for PC, and taking what they can from that development and applying it to the PS3 build of DUST.
Considering that Valyrie is going to PS4 with Project Morpheus support, I don't think Sony were too upset over DUST being fixed. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

SKINE DMZ
S U P R E M E - M A T H E M A T I C S A Band Apart.
463
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:52:00 -
[126] - Quote
Tippia wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:I played DUST514 on the PS3 a couple of times, wasn't great in the state I played it in. Very excited for Legion however, all looks pretty good, great move CCP.  Also DUST514 forums keeping me entertained, that kinda whining wouldn't survive here it is beautiful. It's basically their summer of rage: GǣYou know that thing we promised for so long? Well, yeah, noGǪ here's something else.Gǥ Yea I don't blame them really (although at the end of the day PC will be the better platform for their vision), it's still hilarious. The forums are exploding, don't miss out. I disagree
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TedStriker
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:53:00 -
[127] - Quote
just finished with the "dust 514 progression"....it was really "legion: progression"....nothing to do with dust ;)
CCP got something WRONG here....COMMUNICATION...guys...there is A LOT confusion right now on what is what.
Facts: Legion is a seperate thing....based on Dust, but its NOT DUST 514. So, Dust514 on PS3 is not evolving into PC/PS4.
Legion is new, different (very), and everything else is unknown ;) That was NOT communicated well in the keynote.
Apart from that...GOGO CCP....can't wait to play EvE-FPS on PC... |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1351
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:53:00 -
[128] - Quote
Quote:Dust 514 will stay on PS3
And rot!
Drone gameplay PVE is comming only to Legion. Brutal truth! When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24952
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:55:00 -
[129] - Quote
Tippia wrote:It's basically their summer of rage: GǣYou know that thing we promised for so long? Well, yeah, noGǪ here's something else.Gǥ Poor DUSTbunnies... how could they possibly have known what they got themself into?
...sorry.  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Beofryn Sedorak
35
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:57:00 -
[130] - Quote
TedStriker wrote:just finished with the "dust 514 progression"....it was really "legion: progression"....nothing to do with dust ;)
CCP got something WRONG here....COMMUNICATION...guys...there is A LOT confusion right now what is what.
Facts: Legion is a seperate thing....based on Dust, but its NOT DUST 514. So, Dust514 on PS3 is not evolving into PC/PS4.
Legion is new, different (very), and everything else is unknown ;) That was NOT communicated well in the keynote.
Apart from that...GOGO CCP....can't wait to play EvE-FPS on PC...
Here's my INTERPRETATION of the situation.
There were a lot of hurdles and challenges in developing our vision on console that wouldn't exist if developing on PC. We made some mistakes and to fix them we need a fresh start. We want to bring this expanded product back to console once we've got it right. It will probably be on PS4 when we do.
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
351
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:59:00 -
[131] - Quote
lmao Now they want to sue CCP. I didn't think 14yo's could pass the BAR exam lololol.
I already washed the house, the cars, and topped off the swimming pool today. I don't think I can find a use for any more tears. EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3218
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:00:00 -
[132] - Quote
...told ya so.
Sorta.
Now about my hat...
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Gerdan BloodELF
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
15
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:00:00 -
[133] - Quote
Its like an Icelandinc waterfall of tears. Its beautiful! |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
169
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:01:00 -
[134] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:Quote:Dust 514 will stay on PS3 And rot! Drone gameplay PVE is comming only to Legion. Brutal truth!
Right. The PS3 is terrible at the moment. However, development for games is more possible for simultaneous support of PC and PS4. In that you can develop a PS4 game and port it to PC easier with the PS4 architecture than the PS3. Given that Valkyrie is doing PS4 and PC, it's entirely likely once Legion is started CCP will push to develop for PS4 and put Legion on the PS4 along with the PC. How that specifically would work out is up to CCP to determine, but its a very real possibility and is far easier for CCP to do a PC/PS4 approach with Legion than just try to overhaul and port DUST to PS4 from the PS3. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:02:00 -
[135] - Quote
Hendrick Tallardar wrote: Actually DUST kept itself alive. DUST was making enough money to support itself. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1233
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:02:00 -
[136] - Quote
TedStriker wrote:just finished with the "dust 514 progression"....it was really "legion: progression"....nothing to do with dust ;)
CCP got something WRONG here....COMMUNICATION...guys...there is A LOT confusion right now on what is what.
Facts: Legion is a seperate thing....based on Dust, but its NOT DUST 514. So, Dust514 on PS3 is not evolving into PC/PS4.
Legion is new, different (very), and everything else is unknown ;) That was NOT communicated well in the keynote.
Apart from that...GOGO CCP....can't wait to play EvE-FPS on PC... which is wonderfully horrible, considering they literally just told every DUST player they can forget about everything CCP ever said they would do with DUST and go **** themselves. Because no more integration, no more meaningful anything, hell, no new content, wont even get to transfer your character over to Legion, which is supposedly now the "real game"
They basically pulled an X-Rebirth with DUST. |

Beofryn Sedorak
35
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:04:00 -
[137] - Quote
Clearly, No one on PC or Console noticed. Because, Obviously no one cares about Dust 514. I mean, Isn't it clear to everyone that no one is posting or expressing their opinions about it? |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:04:00 -
[138] - Quote
Tavin Aikisen wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Reading the DUST forum makes it difficult to feel any sympathy for them... Call of Duty Ghosts 3 Modern Warfare 6 will be out next week. They'll be over it shortly. Funny you say that, because COD is EXTREMELY hated on the DUST forums. And I do mean EXTREMELY.
I saw someone mention he plays COD and the blowback was amazing  Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Chinwe Rhei
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:05:00 -
[139] - Quote
Honestly does anyone think Legion will do much better than Dust ? At least Dust had good hype and there weren't a lot of F2P shooters for PS3, while this is: we made one mediocre fps while promising more than we delivered, now here's another one and more promises !. Obviously more EvE players will play it but i don't think it's gonna be enough to make F2P very profitable and also with Dust and EvE on the same platform one will eat into the other's PCU.
I bet you guys are just enjoying the fact that dust bunnies got screwed over you psychos 
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Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:06:00 -
[140] - Quote
Chinwe Rhei wrote:Honestly does anyone think Legion will do much better than Dust ? At least Dust had good hype and there weren't a lot of F2P shooters for PS3, while this is: we made one mediocre fps while promising more than we delivered, now here's another one and more promises !. Obviously more EvE players will play it but i don't think it's gonna be enough to make F2P very profitable and also with Dust and EvE on the same platform one will eat into the other's PCU. I bet you guys are just enjoying the fact that dust bunnies got screwed over you psychos  DUST is profitable.
That should tell you everything. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1346
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:07:00 -
[141] - Quote
Noriko Mai wrote:\o/ Screenshots
- Dust 514 will stay on PS3
- Project Legion will be the PC Master Race version.
Thread: You guys are really entertaining the EVE players.SGT Dauphine: Just heads up that the EVE guys are laughing their asses of at your expense. Jason Pearson: And who really gives a **** about what the eggers are laughing about? Himiko Kuronaga: Yea, and when your resources are being stolen by hackers you can keep laughing. BIind Shot: Eve online is full of the biggest, fattest, greasiest neckbeards this world has ever known. They can laugh at us now but we get to laugh at them every time they step out of their mom's basements. Eve, "space exploration". I gave it a try. Was more like spread sheet exploration. Enjoy more tears from the Kindergarten E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Tear bucket filling quickly
Fantastic news, it's something the community has been calling for. I'm glad CCP has listened. I for one cant wait to get my feet in the soil of some godless planet and point my gun at something. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5126
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:07:00 -
[142] - Quote
Who wants to start a Class action lawsuit?
that_escalated_quickly.jpg
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
14
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:30:00 -
[143] - Quote
Cat Troll wrote:Chinwe Rhei wrote:Honestly does anyone think Legion will do much better than Dust ? At least Dust had good hype and there weren't a lot of F2P shooters for PS3, while this is: we made one mediocre fps while promising more than we delivered, now here's another one and more promises !. Obviously more EvE players will play it but i don't think it's gonna be enough to make F2P very profitable and also with Dust and EvE on the same platform one will eat into the other's PCU. I bet you guys are just enjoying the fact that dust bunnies got screwed over you psychos  DUST is profitable. That should tell you everything.
Evidence please? |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5213
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:30:00 -
[144] - Quote
Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring.
... by reading the thread and posting in it.
Doinitrong!
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:32:00 -
[145] - Quote
Hoban Gallifrey wrote:Cat Troll wrote:Chinwe Rhei wrote:Honestly does anyone think Legion will do much better than Dust ? At least Dust had good hype and there weren't a lot of F2P shooters for PS3, while this is: we made one mediocre fps while promising more than we delivered, now here's another one and more promises !. Obviously more EvE players will play it but i don't think it's gonna be enough to make F2P very profitable and also with Dust and EvE on the same platform one will eat into the other's PCU. I bet you guys are just enjoying the fact that dust bunnies got screwed over you psychos  DUST is profitable. That should tell you everything. Evidence please? CCP's financial report. I don't understand it myself, but people who understand it said it means DUST is profitable. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
351
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:37:00 -
[146] - Quote
Notice how quickly they turn on each other. Shows the low levels of mental development in the console scrub gamers world.
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5128
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:39:00 -
[147] - Quote
Belt Scout wrote:Notice how quickly they turn on each other. Shows the low levels of mental development in the console scrub gamers world.
Well, given their average age...
Boycotting threads are coming out... The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Salvo Aivo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:41:00 -
[148] - Quote
Hoban Gallifrey wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=728 Poor Dust bunnies. 
Those tears. Those precious, copious amounts of tears. If there was any doubt that CFC ran CCP, it is all but proven here. No one strives for tears the way CFC does. To generate such a dousing is something only the CFC is capable of. |

Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
125
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:44:00 -
[149] - Quote
Salvo Aivo wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=728 Poor Dust bunnies.  Those tears. Those precious, copious amounts of tears. If there was any doubt that CFC ran CCP, it is all but proven here. No one strives for tears the way CFC does. To generate such a dousing is something only the CFC is capable of.
GRRR G.... ah, nevermind. -x |

Salvo Aivo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:46:00 -
[150] - Quote
Learn to take a compliment. |
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
351
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:48:00 -
[151] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Notice how quickly they turn on each other. Shows the low levels of mental development in the console scrub gamers world. Well, given their average age... Boycotting threads are coming out...
Yeah I see that. There's a regular tear tsunami going on over there.
Haven't had this much fun since the E1 threadnaught.  
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
120
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:52:00 -
[152] - Quote
As a first wave dust player, I LOVED Dust 514, but it quickly grew old with lack of maps, easy ways to deadlock a match with no return, poor matchmaking (leading to deadlocking a lot), etc. IT sounds like they've added TONS of more weapons, and I've looked into the progression system recently and absolutely love it. DUST 514 actually does not have to be as bad as people say it is. With a little funding (PC master race can help) and work on new BALANCED maps and weapon reworks we could have a fun FPS to play. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1853
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:56:00 -
[153] - Quote
IDGAD wrote:As a first wave dust player, I LOVED Dust 514, but it quickly grew old with lack of maps, easy ways to deadlock a match with no return, poor matchmaking (leading to deadlocking a lot), etc. IT sounds like they've added TONS of more weapons, and I've looked into the progression system recently and absolutely love it. DUST 514 actually does not have to be as bad as people say it is. With a little funding (PC master race can help) and work on new BALANCED maps and weapon reworks we could have a fun FPS to play.
He's dead Jim... BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3218
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:04:00 -
[154] - Quote
FTFY.
Yah I bought some smack in DUST. Hope I can transfer those items to Legion. #ccpburnedme
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Tomiko Kawase
Kite Co. Space Trucking
146
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:05:00 -
[155] - Quote
I was in the very first DUST514 beta. I thought the game had some decent potential.
Right now I'm super pumped for Legion. Unless the EVE Keynote does something insane, it was my announcement of the show. Bombastic vintage soul with a driving groove, brass & male vocal |

TheButcherPete
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
429
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:08:00 -
[156] - Quote
The tears in the lawsuit thread...
ohgod I'm over capacity already. THE KING OF EVE RADIO
If EVE is real, does that mean all of us are RMTrs? |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1351
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:10:00 -
[157] - Quote
Anybody think League of legends with guns, first person view? Sci-Fi setting? When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5131
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:10:00 -
[158] - Quote
DUST forums wrote: Can i use my ps3 controller on Legion
3rd stage of grief achievement unlocked.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
82
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:15:00 -
[159] - Quote
As funny the dust forum is what would be if CCP woulda had sayd that they are plugging the server from Eve in a week on fanfest? Could you imagine the rage and killed devs on the stage? Some of the Dusties actually invested alot of time into the game. Nobody deserves to be treated like that. |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3137
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:16:00 -
[160] - Quote
For some reason the aqueous liquid output in my PI facilities has increased by 350%. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
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Pine Marten
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:17:00 -
[161] - Quote
There is a long list of the things CCP could not do right.
What makes you think Legion is going to be any dif?
I wont wait 3-5years to find out lol. |

Noriko Mai
1255
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:18:00 -
[162] - Quote
DUST forums wrote:dust 514 will die Dust 514 now dying, too EVE is already dying for over 10 years. Poor CCP. All your games are dying. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21453
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:19:00 -
[163] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:For some reason the aqueous liquid output in my PI facilities has increased by 350%. Short sodium, because the world supplies just increased tenfold. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1351
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:22:00 -
[164] - Quote
I don't think that they did not predict what would happen, DUSTY was executed without mercy. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |

Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1055
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:29:00 -
[165] - Quote
DO we know if the "Hold on while I tab to my EVE guy for a bombardement." thing they didn't want in the first place will be a thing? |

Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1233
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:35:00 -
[166] - Quote
Pine Marten wrote:There is a long list of the things CCP could not do right.
What makes you think Legion is going to be any dif?
I wont wait 3-5years to find out lol. especially since now, to make legion even have a chance, theyll be fighting AGAINST the old DUST players who will be trying to drag CCP down to hell with them the entire way.
next year, For CCP's sake, if there arent character transfers or soemthign very similar from DUST to legion, theyll need to check the prior history of everyone attending fanfest, cause everyone knows theres little more vindictive than EVE players (im beign generous and calling DUST, EVE) |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24966
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:38:00 -
[167] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:DO we know if the "Hold on while I tab to my EVE guy for a bombardement." thing they didn't want in the first place will be a thing? Hu... I guess not. I mean, Legion will be connected to EVE in some way, but I recon it will be not like that. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1832
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:43:00 -
[168] - Quote
Its probably too little too late, but we will see. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1121
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:46:00 -
[169] - Quote
From the dust bunnies
Quote:#23Posted: 2014.05.02 17:28 1 Hansei Kaizen wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: Hansei Kaizen wrote: Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Vect-r wrote: IS THIS REAL LIFE??
IS THIS JUST FANTASY??
CAUGHT IN A LAAND SLIDE
NO ESCAPE FROM REALLITTTYYY
OPEN YOUR EYES
LOOK UP TO THE SKKKYYYYYYY
In response to
Quote:#5Posted: 2014.05.02 16:45 10 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: It's almost as if we were all playing a video game this entire time!!!
*slowly begins to touch my face*
*the chair breaks*
*I stare out the window and see sunlight for the first time in a year*
"I........ I.......... it was just a video game.........."
"I'm free................" Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Enraku Reynolt
Peripheral Patrol Shadow's Edge Alliance
34
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:50:00 -
[170] - Quote
I just hope I can use my ps3 Dust char on the PC
now they just need to add in the abilty for Dust players to shoot back at ships in orbit |
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Fiddlestax Atruin
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:26:00 -
[171] - Quote
Dust 514 was a complete failure. None of it's lofty goals were reached in it's nearly year of release. CCP demonstrated quite clearly that they are incapable of making/balancing a FPS, console or not. You should not waste your time or money on LEGION... It won't be good, and you WILL be lied to. |

Fiddlestax Atruin
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:28:00 -
[172] - Quote
Nariya Kentaya wrote:Pine Marten wrote:There is a long list of the things CCP could not do right.
What makes you think Legion is going to be any dif?
I wont wait 3-5years to find out lol. especially since now, to make legion even have a chance, theyll be fighting AGAINST the old DUST players who will be trying to drag CCP down to hell with them the entire way. next year, For CCP's sake, if there arent character transfers or soemthign very similar from DUST to legion, theyll need to check the prior history of everyone attending fanfest, cause everyone knows theres little more vindictive than EVE players (im beign generous and calling DUST, EVE)
They got us to pay for AURUM in a beta test for a different game they had going. Why wouldn't we be a bit mad?
Nobody enjoyed dust. The player base stuck around for the community and the promises. Now both are SHATTERED. |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24988
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:37:00 -
[173] - Quote
Fiddlestax Atruin wrote:Dust 514 was a complete failure. None of it's lofty goals were reached in it's nearly year of release. CCP demonstrated quite clearly that they are incapable of making/balancing a FPS, console or not. You should not waste your time or money on LEGION... It won't be good, and you WILL be lied to. That's one way to look at it... another would be: CCP has learned from the mistakes they made with DUST and know what they are doing now. I mean, it might be a bummer for the people that really enjoyed DUST, but essentially, in a way, the game may just have been a long beta test for what is to come...
Be that as it may, from what can see right now, Legion looks promising enough... at the very least it has a solid graphics engine now. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Fiddlestax Atruin
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:41:00 -
[174] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Fiddlestax Atruin wrote:Dust 514 was a complete failure. None of it's lofty goals were reached in it's nearly year of release. CCP demonstrated quite clearly that they are incapable of making/balancing a FPS, console or not. You should not waste your time or money on LEGION... It won't be good, and you WILL be lied to. That's one way to look at it... another would be: CCP has learned from the mistakes they made with DUST and know what they are doing now. I mean, it might be a bummer for the people that really enjoyed DUST, but essentially, in a way, the game may just have been a long beta test for what is to come... Be that as it may, from what can see right now, Legion looks promising enough... at the very least it has a solid graphics engine now. They repeatedly made the same mistakes over dust's development cycle. The would make a long range weapon overpowered, nerf it into the ground and then make a new even more overpowered long range weapon.
They would introduce a bug, fix it, then reintroduce it again over and over and over.
They were incapable of making a link between dust and eve that actually mattered for both sides.
None of the things they promised ever actually happened. They lied to us. How long have they planned on doing legion?
The fact that it is pretty looking changes nothing. Dust's failures were fundamentally in game design and execution. You should expect no different from the LEGION team (same guys, I am pretty sure). |

Vyl Vit
640
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:58:00 -
[175] - Quote
When I get Dust on my PC I use this little vacuum cleaner. It's just the right size. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |

Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:00:00 -
[176] - Quote
I thought EVE was about spaceships. |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1833
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:03:00 -
[177] - Quote
Ubat Batuk wrote:I thought EVE was about spaceships.
Eve is a virtual sandbox that primarily involves spaceships, but isn't limited to.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Dinger
Task Force Delta-14
7
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:03:00 -
[178] - Quote
For all the PR nightmare it has caused both at its inception and now its demise it's sad to see DUST put on notice quite so soon, barely a year since release seems far too short for all that drama.
That said I for one am glad that we're finally getting something for the PC, I will keep an eye on Legion in the hope that at the very least we get a decent FPS which can be properly integrated into the Eve universe, and even maybe finally a worthy successor to the original Planetside.
Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: They were incapable of making a link between dust and eve that actually mattered for both sides.
I'm sure they were perfectly capable, The problem was the shitstorm that would have been created were they to make such a link. DUST being a PS4 exclusive could never realistically have a meaningful impact on EVE as long as the majority of the PC using EVE playerbase were locked out. |

Nakami Saans
Perkone Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:05:00 -
[179] - Quote
I figured this was going to happen, I'm excited and will definitely play it  |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
83
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:30:00 -
[180] - Quote
So where was the Dust514 content on the Dust514 keynote? I havent found anything apart from "yeah guys thanks for attention we just gonna ditch the PS3". And about the Eve/Dust is dying line:
better dieing as beeing aborted all together like WoD. |
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24991
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:33:00 -
[181] - Quote
Fiddlestax Atruin wrote:The fact that it is pretty looking changes nothing. Dust's failures were fundamentally in game design and execution. You should expect no different from the LEGION team (same guys, I am pretty sure). True, but to of the biggest problems DUST had/has/always will have are: It's on the PS3 and has a horrible engine... two problems the PC version will not have.
Also: Yea, EVE is about spaceships, but only because CCP hasn't figured out how to make it about anything else yet.  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6389
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:49:00 -
[182] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Fiddlestax Atruin wrote:The fact that it is pretty looking changes nothing. Dust's failures were fundamentally in game design and execution. You should expect no different from the LEGION team (same guys, I am pretty sure). True, but to of the biggest problems DUST had/has/always will have are: It's on the PS3 and has a horrible engine... two problems the PC version will not have. Also: Yea, EVE is about spaceships, but only because CCP hasn't figured out how to make it about anything else yet.  True enough. We can also realistically expect better from the same guys. People learn from mistakes and improve, so while they might not be able to re-mold it to the best FPS ever, it'll likely be a much better and more polished version of the same concept. The butt hurt of Dusties might make them too irrational to take a calm look at the situation though. Yes what a corporation told to you in their marketing speeches didn't translate in to reality. It sucks, but unless DUST was your first ever online game, it shouldn't come to you as a surprise. |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
200
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:56:00 -
[183] - Quote
Holly **** guys. I had no clue the Dust community was so rotten. Then again, I don't spend much time with the Plebs o3o This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Fiddlestax Atruin
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:57:00 -
[184] - Quote
On the twitch feed (when they were attempting to run damage control) they asked for our feedback.
Giving your feedback on the dust boards gets your post deleted and your account banned at the moment. It has clearly become an issue of censoring dissent, a few questions that CCP needs to answer...
A simple question though: How long has CCP known that they were going to be scrapping dust for legion? Is it proper that they continued to accept payment for aurum and SP boosters, while only "maybe" being able to move characters to the next iteration?
They decided to run an event this week. In the event, you got bonus SP for using a AURUM suit. Is it proper that they ran this event just days before they announced that they were scrapping the project to work on Legion, and that they weren't sure if they would be able to transfer characters across the platforms?
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Ashwind Houssa
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:10:00 -
[185] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote: That's one way to look at it... another would be: CCP has learned from the mistakes they made with DUST and know what they are doing now. I mean, it might be a bummer for the people that really enjoyed DUST, but essentially, in a way, the game may just have been a long beta test for what is to come...
Be that as it may, from what can see right now, Legion looks promising enough... at the very least it has a solid graphics engine now.
For a little perspective, the video you saw was a minor reworking of an existing Dust map section. The models were most likely existing elements, as they already had to be downsampled for the PS3.
Dust being as bad as it was was not merely due to the engine choice. The visuals just could not serve as enough of a coat of gloss for the awful game design underneath. The team in Shanghai has so far shown a distinct refusal to come to grips with core FPS balance mechanics, and there is no indication that they are even close to understanding that.
When Legion is "launched" I hope it goes better than Uprising 1.0. |

Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:19:00 -
[186] - Quote
Yikes! DUST forums are even scarier than EVE forums.  |

Lugia3
Emerald Inc. Easily Excited
939
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:26:00 -
[187] - Quote
Those dust bunny tears were glorious.
Hold on, I need to fly to a dust bunny system and extract more. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1211
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:42:00 -
[188] - Quote
Tysun Kane wrote:CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion.
Please explain how exactly? Does this legion have spaceship dogfighting and 150 detailed worlds you can land on and walk upon? Does it have zero-g firefights and ship boarding. Nope. Don't think so. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5143
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:44:00 -
[189] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:Tysun Kane wrote:CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion. Please explain how exactly? Does this legion have spaceship dogfighting and 150 detailed worlds you can land on and walk upon? Does it have zero-g firefights and ship boarding. Nope. Don't think so.
Neither does Star Citizen.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
15
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:55:00 -
[190] - Quote
Apparently they are getting up to 90 days worth of refunds from Sony!  |
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
352
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Posted - 2014.05.02 21:16:00 -
[191] - Quote
hmmph,...Went to do a service call figuring this thread would be locked by now.
I'm impressed people.
/slow clap
Lugia3 wrote:Those dust bunny tears were glorious.
Hold on, I need to fly to a dust bunny system and extract more.
Can we suicide gank the orbital bombers? There may be some untapped tears there. Def some lulz anyway. 
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3218
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Posted - 2014.05.02 21:34:00 -
[192] - Quote
Dalloway Jones wrote:Yikes! DUST forums are even scarier than EVE forums.  I don't blame them. Some of us actually purchased all the BPOs and stuff in Beta. That was real cash going out for what CCP promised would be EvE-like perpetual development and eventual melding of the markets. Now not only is CCP reneging on that promise, it looks like the game is not even in development anymore. There will never be a link. The servers will shut down and whatever was purchased is just wiped. CCP isn't even communicating with the DUST players at this point. Nothin'.
Now people who bought things within the last 3 months have figured out they can call up Sony and get a refund if they threaten a charge-back. many are. It's a real mess. Too bad I bought my stuff so long ago... I wish I could at least get refunded in PLEX but that probably won't happen.
DUST players just got burned. Meh. You can go read their forums and watch the debacle. Threads are getting deleted, though (not just locked). Be careful. Don't get caught up in the vitriol... people are getting banned. Just watch a community melt down.
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Ravcharas
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
319
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Posted - 2014.05.02 21:39:00 -
[193] - Quote
Gogela wrote:[quote=Dalloway Jones]Just watch a community melt down. That is really sad. One of the upshots for Eve was that Dust might be a gateway into spaceships for players who were interested in the Eve universe but hesitant to take the plunge on spreadsheets in space.
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Kymn Mahn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.05.02 21:39:00 -
[194] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Fiddlestax Atruin wrote:Dust 514 was a complete failure. None of it's lofty goals were reached in it's nearly year of release. CCP demonstrated quite clearly that they are incapable of making/balancing a FPS, console or not. You should not waste your time or money on LEGION... It won't be good, and you WILL be lied to. That's one way to look at it... another would be: CCP has learned from the mistakes they made with DUST and know what they are doing now. I mean, it might be a bummer for the people that really enjoyed DUST, but essentially, in a way, the game may just have been a long beta test for what is to come... Be that as it may, from what can see right now, Legion looks promising enough... at the very least it has a solid graphics engine now.
You mean like they learned from all the mistakes in eve ...... |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24995
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Posted - 2014.05.02 21:53:00 -
[195] - Quote
Kymn Mahn wrote:You mean like they learned from all the mistakes in eve ...... Hm, good point... but they learned something... not only the right, though. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:10:00 -
[196] - Quote
I'd like to take a look at it....But if I have time to play....It's pretty much EVE....or the occassional match of Unreal Tournament III... |

Noriko Mai
1265
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:29:00 -
[197] - Quote
A small collection from Lord Mandelor |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
20
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:33:00 -
[198] - Quote
LIFE SAVINGS!
If somebody really is that stupid, then ... well ...
I guess he didn't want that money anyway. xD |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1729
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:41:00 -
[199] - Quote
I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Sure legion will still have to compete with planetside 2, but it may finally be possible to see some decent eve integration down the line which could be cool. Also, the fact that the dustbunnies were kind enough to beta test it for us is a plus.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2468
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:42:00 -
[200] - Quote
PL has a fairly large FPS crowd, this is pretty sweet Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5164
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:44:00 -
[201] - Quote
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:LIFE SAVINGS! If somebody really is that stupid, then ... well ... I guess he didn't want that money anyway. xD
Sometimes Darwin chucks some chlorine into the gene pool now and again.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility
969
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:02:00 -
[202] - Quote
Dat sun glare like BF3 doe. I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |

London
Justified Chaos
58
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:29:00 -
[203] - Quote
This is awesome, this is what we wanted... Dust on PC. Nobody should be bitching other than those afflicted with consolitis. |

Yolanda Flame
IskGrenade
2
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:38:00 -
[204] - Quote
The rage runith over on the DUST forums. http://www.iskgrenade.com |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1857
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:49:00 -
[205] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:PL has a fairly large FPS crowd, this is pretty sweet
Your battlefield recordings were indeed hilarious to listen to. :P BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Harbonah
Rubicon Spears
62
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:18:00 -
[206] - Quote
I played Dust for about three days when it hit beta. I never picked it up again. Poor design, lack of meanful EVE interaction, bad balance, poor performance. I was personally disappointed when I was told it was coming out on PS3. I gave it a bit of a trial and was only reinforced in my opinion that it would not be a good game. I don't know a single EVE player that has particpated or cared about Dust or it's limited options for EVE interaction.
I am not convinced it will be a successful PC game either until they can make it interact meaningfully with EVE. In terms of EVE, nobody cares about Dust and there is no reason to. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1857
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:23:00 -
[207] - Quote
Not all of the Dust tears taste delicious.
I felt genuinely sorry for this guy. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
259
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:35:00 -
[208] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Beofryn Sedorak wrote:EVE: Legion is CCP Recognizing the failures of DUST 514 and taking the smartest route available to solve most of the those problems, Leveraging the experience gained from their failures.
Who every really believed DUST would be successful anyways... I mean, seriously: A free2play FPS explusive to a (soon to be) dying console? Who thought that was a good iea? Who would invest in something like that?
I suppose I did.
My hope was that it would eventually shift across to the PS4, gain traction and popularity, true connection to EVE Online and then it'd be ported to PC and merge into one game. Or at least launch from the same login screen.
Wasn't that always CCP's vision?
It's now apparent the logical reason is to build it for the Master Race and THEN try porting it to other platforms. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Cyinii Erkkinen
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:39:00 -
[209] - Quote
Tavin Aikisen wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Beofryn Sedorak wrote:EVE: Legion is CCP Recognizing the failures of DUST 514 and taking the smartest route available to solve most of the those problems, Leveraging the experience gained from their failures.
Who every really believed DUST would be successful anyways... I mean, seriously: A free2play FPS explusive to a (soon to be) dying console? Who thought that was a good iea? Who would invest in something like that? I suppose I did. My hope was that it would eventually shift across to the PS4, gain traction and popularity, true connection to EVE Online and then it'd be ported to PC and merge into one game. Or at least launch from the same login screen. Wasn't that always CCP's vision? It's now apparent the logical reason is to build it for the Master Race and THEN try porting it to other platforms.
So are you Kiirtama Oinatsu? If so, I had no clue the whole time you were there in the chromosome build lol |

Silent Rambo
Legion of Seven
160
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:43:00 -
[210] - Quote
Noriko Mai wrote: BIind Shot: Eve online is full of the biggest, fattest, greasiest neckbeards this world has ever known.
This is the most hilariously accurate thing I've ever seen. You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1741
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:45:00 -
[211] - Quote
Awesome... loving those bunny tears.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
207
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:01:00 -
[212] - Quote
This topic's title reminded me that I should probably pop open my tower, get a few compressed air cans and change some thermal paste here and there. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Aspalis
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
597
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:20:00 -
[213] - Quote
My newest favorite thread!
Particularly this post:
"Hugs
Please make a page here http://www.gofundme.com/ I'll donate 10$ to you, I'm sure many other players would as well. Let's cover your terrible visit.
Oh, and when you make your new baby, make sure you throw the old one out and don't give it any future support." |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
2903
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:02:00 -
[214] - Quote
Yolanda Flame wrote:The rage runith over on the DUST forums. hah! that class action lawsuit thread (linked from OP), looks like Infinity Ziona is still around and at it the ""paralegal"" that cant spell or write, working his/her way to the bar exam etc etc etc. I'd double peoples isk if that isn't IZ right there.
Anyhoot, been waiting a whole contractual year for this announcement, so:
Legion, FRAG YEAH! Coming to save the mother fraggin' day yeah, Legion, FRAG YEAH! PC master race is the only fraggin' way yeah! Legion, FRAG YEAH!
Have fun with yet another "lawsuit" threat there IZ 
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3219
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:07:00 -
[215] - Quote
I did too... but then I realized he said "my wife". Yup... somewhere out there there's a lady who not only tolerates his loserdom, living through an FPS, but also empathizes with him when things go sideways.
He's one lucky bastard.
No pity.
On a personal note, CCP reimburse me my DUST investment in PLEX you m************!!!
That is all.
Gogela out. 
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Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
56
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:32:00 -
[216] - Quote
Yes, the only way to go, if dust can be in the state of what the EVE Universe is truly about. It's delicate complexity, depth, scale and deep backstory and lore all this would never ever be accomplished in any way on a console (PS3, PS4). The complications, limitations and no freedom would eventually come even for PS4. Finally
Excited for this so much, so happy. |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
369
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:53:00 -
[217] - Quote
I dont think its so much about Dust coming to PC thats pissing the players off over there so much as its the fact that CCP has flat out promised to deliver massive updates and fixes to the game and instead now chooses to move it to PC and leave them....in the dust ha puns...but either way I can understand their frustration, they have every right to be pissed. I didn't call all you QQs firing on the jita statue a bunch of whining babies or state "Still not caring" The sad fact is the eve community has never truly accepted the dust community and it is precisely BECAUSE its on PS3 and not PC. From our perspective...we are quite accustomed to CCP promising **** and screwing us over, but they aren't. Sooo with that being said, Im glad they are passionate about the situation.
All of you who are expecting legion to be pretty much a planetside version of EVE may be getting your hopes up though. We have seen CCP's trend in developing FPS games...taken Dust into consideration they are 0 for 1. I cant imagine that changing much simply because it is on a PC instead of console. To be honest, I really don't have high expectations for legion. Yeah it looks cool, but I doubt it will ever be what everyone is expecting it to be. Could be wrong, only time will tell. To be honest though I really didnt want a PC version. EVE was unique because it is the only game in this universe that does exist on PC, Dust was unique because it was the only game in this universe that existed on consoles. Now its just going to be two similar games on PC instead :/ kind of diminishes both games' uniqueness and it is or that very uniqueness that I fell in love with eve in the first place.
Legion is nothing more than a grandeous marketing campaign, over it free to play to everyone and if they dont play eve they see it and go ok, its on pc im already on pc so ill try it *cha-ching* ccp made a sale. Whereas if its just dust on ps3, a console player isnt going to go out and spend money for a computer to buy a game to play. I think CCP realized they would never be able to market EVE through a console and it is for that very reason alone they chose to switch to PC.
When you look at the massive sales for micro-trans they ran prior to fanfest for Dust, they really were trying to milk every dollar they could before dropping the bomb, that alone shows that CCP has lost touch with its playerbase and has becomes nothing more than a business hellbent on profit. Which is unusual considering EVE was never created for profit, it was originally designed to prove it could be and exist. CCP is walking a dangerous line here of looking as bad as Blizzard in terms of pure profit making over quality of game play. At least blizz GMs open a chat with you and discuss the issue...ive yet to get a live chat from a CCP GM haha |

Cpt Numnutz Nuttingtons
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:26:00 -
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Hi, I play eve a little, I'm not very good at it but I love the universe and love the idea of dust and of course playing it. For the past year I have been playing and really enjoying dust so I thought I might comment here about some of the reasons behind the waterfall of tears that is now the dust forums.
First and foremost they could have let us down a little easier, they went straight for the sucker punch to the nuts at the "dust" key note. They haven't given us any information about this at all, we (the dust community) were hopping for the best. We were looking for a lot of the stuff CCP had said would come (market, pve, vehicle parity etc) since we were all assuming the 10 year road map for dust was still in existence. Instead we were met with "hey here is all that stuff you wanted but in a completely different game! Also you need a PC...oh and your game is now dead. Thanks for coming!"  Its pretty clear the shanghai team was working on this instead of working on dust, which hurts a lot if you were a dust merc hoping for this stuff for seven months and paid money to see it happen.
Character transfer: notice how they didn't mention anything? Imagine if all your progress in eve was threatened by the next expansion! We have been building skill points for Over a year and now it may have been for nothing...ouch... For those of you who don't know, you have to work for skill points in dust, its not passive (although you do get one skill point passively every 3 seconds) you have to grind for weeks to get something to lvl 4-5. Loosing a years worth of progress, and we are being told this at fan fest?! Da fak?!
Subscription? If they change it to a subscription model from the current F2P then we are talking about a 90-95% loss of the current dust playerbase. While there are only a few of us (3000 or so) that's pretty staggering. The general consensus is "I'm not giving CCP another F*****" dollar" and frankly I agree. I would be okay with a bundle, 15 bucks for eve AND legion per month but that's the only way.
Personally I hate shooters on PC, I hate the key board and mouse controls and the internet community (tf2, need I say more?) I hate how some people have better rigs than others so it runs better for them while others have to struggle just to move. I think it would be much better on a console, not the ps3 but the ps4. A lot of mercs were looking into gettingba next gen console anyway, which is much much cheaper than building or buying a good rig to run legion.
This is the key note of why a lot of dust mercs are hurt, I know I am, and why a lot of us feel used and empty inside. Dust is an amazing game and a lot of mercs will have trouble finding one as good. For now it looks like they are moving on to destiny and the devision, it seems they are now completely put off of CCP and will spread that to the console community. CCP seems to have burned the Sony bridge and console bridge in one swoop. |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
84
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:42:00 -
[219] - Quote
Developers who delete feedback are usually scammers. And when i think back to the recent Plex sales and options to use them i believe something fishy is going on in eve.
Think about what happend with dust: -they get motivated to spend money and then a few months later they get screwed over HARD.
Whats happening in eve: -CCP motivates the community to buy plex which can be converted into AUR, additional trainain que etc. so that we can get the hands on the new ships which have beeing reskinned. Dont know about you guys but i feel worried that CCP could pull off another stunt like they did with Dust. |

Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
56
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:10:00 -
[220] - Quote
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4601
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:15:00 -
[221] - Quote
Wow, holy ****.
This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right. Mane 614
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3033
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:56:00 -
[222] - Quote
Heh.
CCP finally realises "Eve players who own a PC" is a larger number than "Eve players who own a PS3"
If they don't change the core gameplay I still think it will flop; the game has serious issues. I will however give it a try. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9496
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:57:00 -
[223] - Quote
Seems to be a massive business mistake to me. Even if their new playerbase is larger this will damage their reputation severely. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
208
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:59:00 -
[224] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow, holy ****. This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right. Seriously? Anyone can write a sob story.
>>>Start time 3:51am
I live by myself. I don't have many friends outside of my videogames, and Dust 514 is the one place I can truly call home. I can joke and have meaningful conversations with my corpmates. We are a closer family than my biological one ever was with me.
We are all low income, under 30k a year, and for the past 2 years we've been saving up whatever we could to get all 8 of us to the FanFest, and party at the top of the world. It was hard work, and it implied a lot of sacrifice, but we had finally achieved it. We paid for our fanfest tickets with plex, and made the necessary accommodations to go for the duration of the entire event.
Once our planes arrived, we met up at our hotel, checked in, and went out to visit the Eve Monument. We thought it was mostly a symbolic thing, because without Eve, there would be no Dust, so we went there to check it out. It was an interesting piece of abstract art.
On with the main event. Upon arriving, we saw a table with a large Dust poster on it, and quite a crowd around it. We got closer, and soon found ourselves talking with one of our competitor corporations. As it turns out, they had all been to the previous' year Fanfest, and they were telling us to expect great things, and to keep our spirits up. Surely, something great was going to come to Dust.
Once the keynote started, I remember telling the guy next to me that I was too excited to just sit, so i excused myself, and I went to the side of the meeting room, so i could stretch myself a bit. On with the keynote, and the bad powerpoint jokes, and the revelation that Dust was the founding blocks for Project Legion. My heart sunk. All of the excitement, all of my expectations, were swiftly crushed. Suddenly, I felt very awkward in that room, so I walked out. I wondered outside of the complex for about 30 minutes, and once I went back in, I found the rest of my crew. I could tell from their faces that the news were not great. We met up with the guys from the other corp, and they were equally saddened.
We have no desire to stay for the rest of the FanFest. What CCP has done to us, their loyal player base, is unforgivable. I am mostly hurt at the great deal of sacrifice us 8 put into coming here, to only be kicked down and tossed to the side. I will forever hate this company, and what they have just put me through.
All of the things I could've done, the vacations I could've taken, sacrificed in vain.
>>>End time 3:59
Come on guys.
I've never been to fanfest, and i havent touched dust in a year, so forgive any inaccuracies.... This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1316
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Posted - 2014.05.03 09:01:00 -
[225] - Quote
Delicious tears. The Tears Must Flow |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1316
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Posted - 2014.05.03 09:03:00 -
[226] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Seems to be a massive business mistake to me. Even if their new playerbase is larger this will damage their reputation severely.
What damaged CCP reputation as doing a stupid console game, they are now fixing the problem. The Tears Must Flow |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
84
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Posted - 2014.05.03 09:44:00 -
[227] - Quote
Vaju Enki wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Seems to be a massive business mistake to me. Even if their new playerbase is larger this will damage their reputation severely. What damaged CCP reputation has doing a stupid console game, they are now fixing the problem. Fixing by what? Putting another generic shoter on PC? Yeah well done. Crysis 1 looks better on PS3 then Dust/Legion does on PC. And i highly doubt that there will be enough players to fill all off the Eve universe battlefields. Just look at null sov as it is now, sure large alliances hold the biggest chunk of it but the population density is thinner then a piece of paper. Have fun playing 1vs1 matches cause thats all there is to it, if you are lucky.
And we still dont know about the buisness modell so far. What happends if Legion and Eve share the same subscription method and you can keep playing by buying plex? If that happends plex prices will explode beyond the 2bill mark. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1347
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:04:00 -
[228] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Seems to be a massive business mistake to me. Even if their new playerbase is larger this will damage their reputation severely. What damaged CCP reputation has doing a stupid console game, they are now fixing the problem. Fixing by what? Putting another generic shoter on PC? Yeah well done. Crysis 1 looks better on PS3 then Dust/Legion does on PC. And i highly doubt that there will be enough players to fill all off the Eve universe battlefields. Just look at null sov as it is now, sure large alliances hold the biggest chunk of it but the population density is thinner then a piece of paper. Have fun playing 1vs1 matches cause thats all there is to it, if you are lucky. And we still dont know about the buisness modell so far. What happends if Legion and Eve share the same subscription method and you can keep playing by buying plex? If that happends plex prices will explode beyond the 2bill mark.
Eve is still very much a niche game, legion might be more mainstream, it might bring people to both games. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1347
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:07:00 -
[229] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Tysun Kane wrote:CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion. Please explain how exactly? Does this legion have spaceship dogfighting and 150 detailed worlds you can land on and walk upon? Does it have zero-g firefights and ship boarding. Nope. Don't think so. Neither does Star Citizen. I can venture a guess which one is more likely to be playable first however.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1320
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:15:00 -
[230] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Seems to be a massive business mistake to me. Even if their new playerbase is larger this will damage their reputation severely. What damaged CCP reputation has doing a stupid console game, they are now fixing the problem. Fixing by what? Putting another generic shoter on PC? Yeah well done. Crysis 1 looks better on PS3 then Dust/Legion does on PC. And i highly doubt that there will be enough players to fill all off the Eve universe battlefields. Just look at null sov as it is now, sure large alliances hold the biggest chunk of it but the population density is thinner then a piece of paper. Have fun playing 1vs1 matches cause thats all there is to it, if you are lucky. And we still dont know about the buisness modell so far. What happends if Legion and Eve share the same subscription method and you can keep playing by buying plex? If that happends plex prices will explode beyond the 2bill mark.
No. The Tears Must Flow |
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Tedrizze
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:17:00 -
[231] - Quote
Though i never played DUST (due to the fact that it-¦s PS3 only), i feel sorry for these guys.
If your beloved game gets somewhat dumped (though it has not officially been said that this is case, but come on CCP wont support a dead horse) its harsh and not that easy to take, but if you actually went to fanfest as a DUST player, excited for the keynote presentation and then get THAT much screwed over, its brutal imho.
I totally get the DUST guys, why they are upset and frustrated. I dont get all of those sad people here in this thread, who are enjoying those "delicous tears". What kind of a person do you have to be to enjoy the sheer disappointment of others. Its like enjoying to see the news when poor guys at a warzone are showed, suffering from the recent events. Its just pathetic and awful to enjoy this. You may come now with the only statement you have "LOLOL relax brah itz only a game..zomg!!". You are right about that. But those games are considered a hobby within the whole community and therefor costs real life money, real life time and brings up real life emotions and feelings. So basically your not just enjoying the delicous tears of a random anonym gamer you are not even remotely related to, you are enjoying the tears of a real person, with real emotions , real feelings and a real passion about his/her game who happens to be a part of the same community YOU are in.
Funny thing is, in this very thread some guys get offended when they are described as "neckbears living at their moms basement", but at the same time claiming Dust players are only stupid little kids that depend on their gradmas wallet to buy games, and then think they won that discussion with it. Pathetic.
Dont get me wrong (ofc some will for the reasons above), i really enjoy to see DUST/Legion coming to the PC where it should have been released in the first place, i just dont (and cant) enjoy how a part of our community gets treated at fanfest (and in general) by the devs and then even get mocked by another part of the community for beeing screwed over. |

MajorBean
The Scope Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:38:00 -
[232] - Quote
Legion looks great!
Welcome home Mercenaries. |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
84
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:40:00 -
[233] - Quote
Vaju Enki wrote:Cheng Musana wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Seems to be a massive business mistake to me. Even if their new playerbase is larger this will damage their reputation severely. What damaged CCP reputation has doing a stupid console game, they are now fixing the problem. Fixing by what? Putting another generic shoter on PC? Yeah well done. Crysis 1 looks better on PS3 then Dust/Legion does on PC. And i highly doubt that there will be enough players to fill all off the Eve universe battlefields. Just look at null sov as it is now, sure large alliances hold the biggest chunk of it but the population density is thinner then a piece of paper. Have fun playing 1vs1 matches cause thats all there is to it, if you are lucky. And we still dont know about the buisness modell so far. What happends if Legion and Eve share the same subscription method and you can keep playing by buying plex? If that happends plex prices will explode beyond the 2bill mark. No. lol you are delusional. Go ahead and fly trough nullsec and count the people living there. Its not that hard to do cause most systems are empty. And ya know why they are empty? Because Eve is lacking the playerbase to fill them. You are the prime example of a CCP fanboy. |

Laara Firehound
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:41:00 -
[234] - Quote
Gabriel Z wrote:Maybe I'll finally get around to trying it now. Ender Attor wrote:About time CCP killed Star Citizen Dream on.
Star citizen will never be anywhere close to Eve online in the first place. |

Laara Firehound
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:45:00 -
[235] - Quote
I was so happy when announced, can't explain how much. |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
84
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:47:00 -
[236] - Quote
Laara Firehound wrote:Gabriel Z wrote:Maybe I'll finally get around to trying it now. Ender Attor wrote:About time CCP killed Star Citizen Dream on. Star citizen will never be anywhere close to Eve Universe in the first place. Maybe but on the other hand i think the eve universe is too big for the small playerbase we have at the moment. Just look around in nullsec, its like wandering trough a desert and here and there you find a oasis but thats it. We have highsec, lowsec, nullsec and wormholes. We have more recources to farm then there is players to do it. |

Hoban Gallifrey
New Eden University
15
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:52:00 -
[237] - Quote
I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. |

IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
121
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:56:00 -
[238] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow, holy ****. This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right.
"Locked due to OP trolling" by a dev, not a GM. lol I heard the censorship on the DUST forums were bad right now, but that's outright pathetic. Is this what we have to look forward to with CCP? If so, having forever mediocre expansions and no new big content sounds more and more like a reality as they sit on their ass and stagnate. |

Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1742
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:08:00 -
[239] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Seems to be a massive business mistake to me. Even if their new playerbase is larger this will damage their reputation severely.
IMO, they did the damage when they got into bed with a console company and then left EVE to rot.
They've canned projects before, and no doubt will again... but at least now we're going to see the merit of putting more of the EVE universe back on PC where, again IMO, it belongs.
YMMV.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
2927
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:09:00 -
[240] - Quote
Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. What's wrong, did someone steal their sweetroll? CCP has plans to keep developing Dust. The reaction is abserd. Why should I feel sorry for them? Sounds like a pitty pot surrounded by drama queens going on. Snap out of it! heh |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1138
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:13:00 -
[241] - Quote
Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
179
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:15:00 -
[242] - Quote
I like this change.
Firstly the game looks 10x better than it did on the PS3, so basically it looks like it is at the standard of graphical quality which is expected from a modern game.
Secondly, Dust may actually become relevant now, as people can tab between the eve and dust client. I think that will add a lot of options. And hopefully eve and dust will be become more integrated.
The way I see Dust is not so much as a proper standalone game, but more a fun mini game to be played alongside eve if you just want a bit of fast paced fps action while you wait for your grand plan to unfold in the wider eve universe.
I do wonder what is happening to the ps3 game now though. Not that I really care either way. |

Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
179
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:29:00 -
[243] - Quote
IDGAD wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow, holy ****. This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right. "Locked due to OP trolling" by a dev, not a GM. lol I heard the censorship on the DUST forums were bad right now, but that's outright pathetic. Is this what we have to look forward to with CCP? If so, having forever mediocre expansions and no new big content sounds more and more like a reality as they sit on their ass and stagnate. Wow sucks to be a Dust Bunny. |

Cpt Numnutz Nuttingtons
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:34:00 -
[244] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have. I hate that I'm going to have to deal with people like you in legion.... Some people don't want to game on their computers because A.) Its very expensive for a good rig (even if your making your own) B.) Windows sucks C.) Issues like the launcher failing among other bugs
With consoles its easy, push a button, play the game. Some people don't have the time or money to get into a game like eve, even if they like the universe.
They should have told everyone dust was dead before fan fest and advertised the legion keynote. Rather than hyping up dust fan fest and then crushing their hopes, I know there are a lot of messed up people here but damn...that's cold... |

IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
121
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:35:00 -
[245] - Quote
Medalyn Isis wrote:IDGAD wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow, holy ****. This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right. "Locked due to OP trolling" by a dev, not a GM. lol I heard the censorship on the DUST forums were bad right now, but that's outright pathetic. Is this what we have to look forward to with CCP? If so, having forever mediocre expansions and no new big content sounds more and more like a reality as they sit on their ass and stagnate. Wow sucks to be a Dust Bunny.
I was actually talking about EVE stagnating. Sucks to be EVERYONE playing a CCP game. The issue is with the company, not with a particular game. Ever since the mass layoff after WiS, CCP has been really hit or miss with their expansions but mostly has gone down hill. The last few expansions have shown how much they are shrinking content since we've not had anything big like wormholes or sov remakes in ages. The POS rework was said to be in the works, and they showed us lots of great ideas last year at fanfest, but now a year later, and several years after mentioning they were working on it, we have no new POS system. |

Tedrizze
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:38:00 -
[246] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have.
So in real life you would go to an co-worker who is not in your department of the company who has just been told he basically gets fired in 2 months and laugh at him? No, you wouldn-¦t. You Sir are just a modern internet tough guy. Pathetic.
I for myself grew up with the NES, the Gameboy and such, which are consoles. Today i own a XBOX 360 to be able to casually hang out on the couch , play with friends who came over, play a little bit of halo if i am in the mood. Does that make me a kid? Of course not, sure, there are a lot of kids these days who own a console and play CoD BF and such, but at the same time there are just as many kids play Dota, LoL , CoD, BF and even EVE on the PC. So what is your point? A new console costs about 400-500 bucks, a decent PC who can run modern games is in the same price league. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
2927
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:41:00 -
[247] - Quote
EVE is doing fine, 20x better after WiS was stopped in favor to fixing this game. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1140
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:57:00 -
[248] - Quote
Tedrizze wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have. So in real life you would go to an co-worker who is not in your department of the company who has just been told he basically gets fired in 2 months and laugh at him? No, you wouldn-¦t. You Sir are just a modern internet tough guy. Pathetic. I for myself grew up with the NES, the Gameboy and such, which are consoles. Today i own a XBOX 360 to be able to casually hang out on the couch , play with friends who came over, play a little bit of halo if i am in the mood. Does that make me a kid? Of course not, sure, there are a lot of kids these days who own a console and play CoD BF and such, but at the same time there are just as many kids play Dota, LoL , CoD, BF and even EVE on the PC. So what is your point? A new console costs about 400-500 bucks, a decent PC who can run modern games is in the same price league. who's losing their job, show where we were told anything currently being supported is being shut down. ill wait. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1140
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:03:00 -
[249] - Quote
Cpt Numnutz Nuttingtons wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have. I hate that I'm going to have to deal with people like you in legion.... Some people don't want to game on their computers because A.) Its very expensive for a good rig (even if your making your own) B.) Windows sucks C.) Issues like the launcher failing among other bugs With consoles its easy, push a button, play the game. Some people don't have the time or money to get into a game like eve, even if they like the universe. They should have told everyone dust was dead before fan fest and advertised the legion keynote. Rather than hyping up dust fan fest and then crushing their hopes, I know there are a lot of messed up people here but damn...that's cold... you always had to deal with people "like me".
A.) no it is not. B.) very true but its a lot better than the sony ui C.)that is such a non issue
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Vayn Dravix
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:05:00 -
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Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
328
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:05:00 -
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While I look forward to playing Legion, I have to wonder why CCP failed to heed the advice given to them by CSM (and probably by CPM as well). This reveal and Dust community have been handled in extremely incompetent manner. Whoever decided that this is the way to do it all should be moved to other duties, for PR is certainly not part of their skillset. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |

Tedrizze
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:13:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Tedrizze wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have. So in real life you would go to an co-worker who is not in your department of the company who has just been told he basically gets fired in 2 months and laugh at him? No, you wouldn-¦t. You Sir are just a modern internet tough guy. Pathetic. I for myself grew up with the NES, the Gameboy and such, which are consoles. Today i own a XBOX 360 to be able to casually hang out on the couch , play with friends who came over, play a little bit of halo if i am in the mood. Does that make me a kid? Of course not, sure, there are a lot of kids these days who own a console and play CoD BF and such, but at the same time there are just as many kids play Dota, LoL , CoD, BF and even EVE on the PC. So what is your point? A new console costs about 400-500 bucks, a decent PC who can run modern games is in the same price league. who's losing their job, show where we were told anything currently being supported is being shut down. ill wait.
So you predict CCP showing support for DUST and Legion to coexist next to each other in the long run? OK. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3036
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:27:00 -
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IDGAD wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow, holy ****. This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right. "Locked due to OP trolling" by a dev, not a GM. lol I heard the censorship on the DUST forums were bad right now, but that's outright pathetic. Is this what we have to look forward to with CCP? If so, having forever mediocre expansions and no new big content sounds more and more like a reality as they sit on their ass and stagnate.
Because it's a blatant sob story FFS. Later in the same thread he goes on to say (paraphrasing) "My son is asking me which parts of the game I made, I want to be cool and have him proud of me, now what do I say?"
How about "nothing, daddy just spends time playing console games and wants to feel important for it"
There's also a massive irony in people posting on a forum, using a PC, and complaining that it is being released for the PC. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1145
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:57:00 -
[254] - Quote
Tedrizze wrote: So you predict CCP showing support for DUST and Legion to coexist next to each other in the long run? OK.
Have they explicitly stated that they will not? cos from where im standing its business as usual, barring the fact i'm wearing welly boots for the deluge of tears because legion isn't coming to a console from the last decade Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
330
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:01:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:IDGAD wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow, holy ****. This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right. "Locked due to OP trolling" by a dev, not a GM. lol I heard the censorship on the DUST forums were bad right now, but that's outright pathetic. Is this what we have to look forward to with CCP? If so, having forever mediocre expansions and no new big content sounds more and more like a reality as they sit on their ass and stagnate. Because it's a blatant sob story FFS. Later in the same thread he goes on to say (paraphrasing) "My son is asking me which parts of the game I made, I want to be cool and have him proud of me, now what do I say?" How about "nothing, daddy just spends time playing console games and wants to feel important for it" There's also a massive irony in people posting on a forum, using a PC, and complaining that it is being released for the PC. CCP should take a cue from themselves and HTFU. That is, if they get negative feedback, they should listen and learn (not always what the feedback giver has in mind, but still), not just lock threads, cover ears and shout "LALALALALALA!" That is what CCP Frame essentially did with that thread. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3876
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:05:00 -
[256] - Quote
TL;DR please
All I could see was this guy DUST-only guy crying about something unclear? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3036
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:13:00 -
[257] - Quote
Anna Karhunen wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:IDGAD wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow, holy ****. This guy lived through what's essentially my worst nightmare. This just is not right. "Locked due to OP trolling" by a dev, not a GM. lol I heard the censorship on the DUST forums were bad right now, but that's outright pathetic. Is this what we have to look forward to with CCP? If so, having forever mediocre expansions and no new big content sounds more and more like a reality as they sit on their ass and stagnate. Because it's a blatant sob story FFS. Later in the same thread he goes on to say (paraphrasing) "My son is asking me which parts of the game I made, I want to be cool and have him proud of me, now what do I say?" How about "nothing, daddy just spends time playing console games and wants to feel important for it" There's also a massive irony in people posting on a forum, using a PC, and complaining that it is being released for the PC. CCP should take a cue from themselves and HTFU. That is, if they get negative feedback, they should listen and learn (not always what the feedback giver has in mind, but still), not just lock threads, cover ears and shout "LALALALALALA!" That is what CCP Frame essentially did with that thread. There's plenty of threads of feedback/rage/tears and death-threats. They just locked the one which is deliberately manipulative (and likely a complete lie). If they were trying to suppress feedback there's much more they're leaving intact.
Not that I don't agree with many of the points the Dust guys are raising, but holy shitsnacks they're doing it in a bad way.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Hurtado Soneka
Rogue of Blade
209
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:18:00 -
[258] - Quote
Who gives a ****?
CCP have no creditibility in the field of FPS, they have constantly failed with customer expectation, they have no idea how to balance and their timetable for content release is hilarious.
Legion will be a shiny Dust, but you cant polish a turd so good luck with that.
PC master race plebs about to get their dreams crushed, stay away |

IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
121
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:19:00 -
[259] - Quote
Anna Karhunen wrote:While I look forward to playing Legion, I have to wonder why CCP failed to heed the advice given to them by CSM (and probably by CPM as well). This reveal and Dust community have been handled in extremely incompetent manner. Whoever decided that this is the way to do it all should be moved to other duties, for PR is certainly not part of their skillset.
The DUST 514 PR is taken care of by Mintchip. This was the girl who just a week before being hired by CCP, would not stop bashing EVE and saying how much CCP was a horrible company, while at the same time trying to get neckbeards to buy her things from her amazon wishlist. This seems wholly in line with hiring someone so inexperienced and outright bad for a PR role.
Bad choices by CCP aside, yes it is a PR nightmare and I hear from some posts that sony is even reimbursing recent "arum" purchases due to this whole issue? If so, that's pretty impressive since Sony takes a really hard line on refunds and usually just says tough luck. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3878
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:26:00 -
[260] - Quote
Hurtado Soneka wrote:Who gives a ****?
CCP have no creditibility in the field of FPS, they have constantly failed with customer expectation, they have no idea how to balance and their timetable for content release is hilarious.
Legion will be a shiny Dust, but you cant polish a turd so good luck with that.
PC master race plebs about to get their dreams crushed, stay away
Yeah cos EA and Bethesda have **** FPS sewn up, CCP shouldnt even try 
Go back to CoD and ruined Battlefield, little one "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
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Hurtado Soneka
Rogue of Blade
209
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:27:00 -
[261] - Quote
Tedrizze wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have. So in real life you would go to an co-worker who is not in your department of the company who has just been told he basically gets fired in 2 months and laugh at him? No, you wouldn-¦t. You Sir are just a modern internet tough guy. Pathetic. I for myself grew up with the NES, the Gameboy and such, which are consoles. Today i own a XBOX 360 to be able to casually hang out on the couch , play with friends who came over, play a little bit of halo if i am in the mood. Does that make me a kid? Of course not, sure, there are a lot of kids these days who own a console and play CoD BF and such, but at the same time there are just as many kids play Dota, LoL , CoD, BF and even EVE on the PC. So what is your point? A new console costs about 400-500 bucks, a decent PC who can run modern games is in the same price league.
Ralph king is the type of moron that takes pleasure in ******* his kids because he is a piece of ****, take no heed of these clowns |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5213
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:29:00 -
[262] - Quote
IDGAD wrote: The DUST 514 PR is taken care of by Mintchip. This was the girl who just a week before being hired by CCP, would not stop bashing EVE and saying how much CCP was a horrible company, while at the same time trying to get neckbeards to buy her things from her amazon wishlist. This seems wholly in line with hiring someone so inexperienced and outright bad for a PR role.
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You'll be glad to know that MC was nerfed when the Atlanta office was. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3036
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:29:00 -
[263] - Quote
IDGAD wrote:Anna Karhunen wrote:While I look forward to playing Legion, I have to wonder why CCP failed to heed the advice given to them by CSM (and probably by CPM as well). This reveal and Dust community have been handled in extremely incompetent manner. Whoever decided that this is the way to do it all should be moved to other duties, for PR is certainly not part of their skillset. The DUST 514 PR is taken care of by Mintchip. This was the girl who just a week before being hired by CCP, would not stop bashing EVE and saying how much CCP was a horrible company, while at the same time trying to get neckbeards to buy her things from her amazon wishlist. This seems wholly in line with hiring someone so inexperienced and outright bad for a PR role. Bad choices by CCP aside, yes it is a PR nightmare and I hear from some posts that sony is even reimbursing recent "arum" purchases due to this whole issue? If so, that's pretty impressive since Sony takes a really hard line on refunds and usually just says tough luck.
Mintchip was never "PR" and doesn't work for CCP anymore. If you're going to be abusive, at least check your facts. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
121
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:30:00 -
[264] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:IDGAD wrote:Anna Karhunen wrote:While I look forward to playing Legion, I have to wonder why CCP failed to heed the advice given to them by CSM (and probably by CPM as well). This reveal and Dust community have been handled in extremely incompetent manner. Whoever decided that this is the way to do it all should be moved to other duties, for PR is certainly not part of their skillset. The DUST 514 PR is taken care of by Mintchip. This was the girl who just a week before being hired by CCP, would not stop bashing EVE and saying how much CCP was a horrible company, while at the same time trying to get neckbeards to buy her things from her amazon wishlist. This seems wholly in line with hiring someone so inexperienced and outright bad for a PR role. Bad choices by CCP aside, yes it is a PR nightmare and I hear from some posts that sony is even reimbursing recent "arum" purchases due to this whole issue? If so, that's pretty impressive since Sony takes a really hard line on refunds and usually just says tough luck. Mintchip was never "PR" and doesn't work for CCP anymore. If you're going to be abusive, at least check your facts.
Really? Awesome! Please tell me why she was hired, if they ever officially gave an apology, and just when she was fired / "left" . I'd like to know that very much.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1146
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:31:00 -
[265] - Quote
Hurtado Soneka wrote: something worth reporting
and You are the type of clown that takes video games far too seriously Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3036
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:33:00 -
[266] - Quote
Hurtado Soneka wrote:Tedrizze wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:I have to admit I do feel sorry for the guys who went to Fanfest. It's not nice or funny. its extremely funny. they are essentially saying "stop playing games on your kids console and get a pc", you know like an adult would have. So in real life you would go to an co-worker who is not in your department of the company who has just been told he basically gets fired in 2 months and laugh at him? No, you wouldn-¦t. You Sir are just a modern internet tough guy. Pathetic. I for myself grew up with the NES, the Gameboy and such, which are consoles. Today i own a XBOX 360 to be able to casually hang out on the couch , play with friends who came over, play a little bit of halo if i am in the mood. Does that make me a kid? Of course not, sure, there are a lot of kids these days who own a console and play CoD BF and such, but at the same time there are just as many kids play Dota, LoL , CoD, BF and even EVE on the PC. So what is your point? A new console costs about 400-500 bucks, a decent PC who can run modern games is in the same price league. Ralph king is the type of moron that takes pleasure in ******* his kids because he is a piece of ****, take no heed of these clowns
Perspective: They are getting "I am going to kill CCP devs" level mad because they have announced a sequel. Not unlike the literal hundreds of times games companies have announced sequels on different platforms rather than beating a dead horse on a discontinued one.
I don't stamp my feet and cry like a baby because I can't play GTA5 on my original playstation. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18172
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:34:00 -
[267] - Quote
WTB DUST forum posting rights.
Hurtado Soneka wrote:Ralph king is the type of moron that takes pleasure in ******* his kids because he is a piece of ****, take no heed of these clowns Really? Totally uncalled for and inappropriate.
Never go full Ripard |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1146
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:37:00 -
[268] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:WTB DUST forum posting rights. Hurtado Soneka wrote:Ralph king is the type of moron that takes pleasure in ******* his kids because he is a piece of ****, take no heed of these clowns Really? Totally uncalled for and inappropriate. reported and watchlisted so its all good, ill be hitig the locators when he forgets about this Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
40
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:39:00 -
[269] - Quote
Hurtado Soneka wrote:Ralph king is the type of moron that takes pleasure in ******* his kids because he is a piece of ****, take no heed of these clowns Aaaaand reported.
This **** gets you forumbanned, if not permabanned.
Congratulations, sick freak. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2315
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:41:00 -
[270] - Quote
Xavier Holtzman wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game I don't care about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! Fixed that for you.
Going by the numbers of folk playing DUST, very, very few people care about the game.
However, having said that, a version of it on the pc is a brave move to raise the dead on the part of CCP. This is not a signature. |
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London
Justified Chaos
59
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:47:00 -
[271] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Perspective: They are getting "I am going to kill CCP devs" level mad because they have announced a sequel. Not unlike the literal hundreds of times games companies have announced sequels on different platforms rather than beating a dead horse on a discontinued one.
I don't stamp my feet and cry like a baby, or threaten to blow up Sony HQ because I can't play GTA5 on my original playstation.
Give this man a cookie.
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Noriko Mai
1293
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:50:00 -
[272] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game I don't care about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! Fixed that for you. Going by the numbers of folk playing DUST, very, very few people care about the game. However, having said that, a version of it on the pc is a brave move to raise the dead on the part of CCP. There are already more people in this thread saying they will play Legion, than there are Dust players.  |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1864
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:55:00 -
[273] - Quote
Noriko Mai wrote:There are already more people in this thread saying they will play Legion, than there are Dust players. 
Maybe, but you should never expect an EVE player to keep his word. 
BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1838
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:56:00 -
[274] - Quote
Noriko Mai wrote:There are already more people in this thread saying they will play Legion, than there are Dust players. 
I would play Legion, and I don't even really like FPSs anymore. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
331
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:58:00 -
[275] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:There are already more people in this thread saying they will play Legion, than there are Dust players.  Maybe, but you should never expect an EVE player to keep his word.  But I certainly will... ooh! shiny game over there! *plays something else* As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2317
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:59:00 -
[276] - Quote
Noriko Mai wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game I don't care about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! Fixed that for you. Going by the numbers of folk playing DUST, very, very few people care about the game. However, having said that, a version of it on the pc is a brave move to raise the dead on the part of CCP. There are already more people in this thread saying they will play Legion, than there are Dust players. 
I have always assumed that the 514 part of the games name was a reference to the number of folk who play it on a semi regular basis.  This is not a signature. |

Ravcharas
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
319
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:02:00 -
[277] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Perspective: They are getting "I am going to kill CCP devs" level mad because they have announced a sequel. Not unlike the literal hundreds of times games companies have announced sequels on different platforms rather than beating a dead horse on a discontinued one.
I don't stamp my feet and cry like a baby, or threaten to blow up Sony HQ because I can't play GTA5 on my original playstation. I don't think that's why they are up in arms. It's not simply that CCP announced a new game. It's that they didn't announce anything new for Dust 514 during the Dust 514 keynote, and instead spent it announcing another game that will be developed by the team who are now developing Dust 514.
I don't think it's unresonable that they are worried about the future of the game they play. |

Noriko Mai
1294
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:02:00 -
[278] - Quote
Dust forums wrote: To be honest if i where the OP i would have found a dev on the pubcrawl and beat the **** out of them. For every single hour played on this game a punch on the face.
Such a nice community. All of them spend far more than $500 on Dust 514 and they are all so passionate. |

Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
1605
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:04:00 -
[279] - Quote
Pretty **** move..... But not the first. People have a responsibility for themselves not to get ripped off my the same company continuously.
I was stung in Dust from the Beta and vowed never to spend another penny on the game, but I did, lesson learnt. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1146
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:07:00 -
[280] - Quote
Noriko Mai wrote:Dust forums wrote: To be honest if i where the OP i would have found a dev on the pubcrawl and beat the **** out of them. For every single hour played on this game a punch on the face.
Such a nice community. All of them spend far more than $500 on Dust 514 and they are all so passionate. anyone surprised they want to move away from them? Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Dave Stark
5228
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:13:00 -
[281] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game I don't care about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! Fixed that for you. Going by the numbers of folk playing DUST, very, very few people care about the game. However, having said that, a version of it on the pc is a brave move to raise the dead on the part of CCP.
pretty sure dust is dead because it's not on the PC, that was pretty much it's biggest criticism since it's announcement. it's sensible to bring it to the pc, not brave. |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
84
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:18:00 -
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Legion is not a sequal for dust. Its the end of the PS3 game and just a polished new variant which in the end plays exactly the same. If CCP woulda had sayd that this would be on PS4 and where you could keep your Dust514 char (because on PSN you can link your PS3 account) that would had made the Dust players much happier.
The guys who play on PS3 dont want to play on a PC with mouse and keyboard, they just want to relax on the couch and start playing when they feel like it. PC gamers are just way too hardcore in that aspect. Just look at our Eve community: you got those unworthy of existance living creatures who are enjoying to see others suffer (cough eroitca1 cough...). CCP should have stated their intentions before fanfest and not try to milk money from the players just to screw them over. Even a 5 year old could probs come up with a better PR then the person behind that desaster.
Seriously first they state some numbers about clones killed and ISK destroyed with a tribute vid from a DUST514 player and then they show what they are really working on, after that they promptly end the Keynote for Dust514. This is even false advertising for the programm for the fanfest. Last time i looked there was no note of a "EVE: Legion keynote". If i would be a dust player who went to the fanfest to learn more about the eve-dust connection i would probs demand my money back for the fanfest ticket. |

Noriko Mai
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Cheng Musana wrote:If i would be a dust player who went to the fanfest to learn more about the eve-dust connection i would probs demand my money back for the fanfest ticket. You must be that kind of guy that demands his money back in the cinema if the movie was bad. |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
365
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:33:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:Cheng Musana wrote:If i would be a dust player who went to the fanfest to learn more about the eve-dust connection i would probs demand my money back for the fanfest ticket. You must be that kind of guy that demands his money back in the cinema if the movie was bad.
Bad comparison! If the Movie is called "Lego the Movie" and everything is about Playmobil you would be pissed, wouldnt you? Meet the Mario Kart 8 - Capsuleer Club Cup |

Noriko Mai
1295
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:37:00 -
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Lephia DeGrande wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:Cheng Musana wrote:If i would be a dust player who went to the fanfest to learn more about the eve-dust connection i would probs demand my money back for the fanfest ticket. You must be that kind of guy that demands his money back in the cinema if the movie was bad. Bad comparison! If the Movie is called "Lego the Movie" and everything is about Playmobil you would be pissed, wouldnt you? If the EVE Fanfest turns out to be about WoW, then yes. |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
244
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:38:00 -
[286] - Quote
I just hope CCP invites people for the Alpha/Beta whatever it's called these days who have the Mystery code entered to their account =^_^=. Baddest poster ever |

Dave Stark
5229
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:38:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:Lephia DeGrande wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:Cheng Musana wrote:If i would be a dust player who went to the fanfest to learn more about the eve-dust connection i would probs demand my money back for the fanfest ticket. You must be that kind of guy that demands his money back in the cinema if the movie was bad. Bad comparison! If the Movie is called "Lego the Movie" and everything is about Playmobil you would be pissed, wouldnt you? If the EVE Fanfest turns out to be about WoW, then yes.
still valid if ccp buys wow from blizzard. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3882
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:40:00 -
[288] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:
still valid if ccp buys wow from blizzard.
That would be funny "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Dave Stark
5229
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:45:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
still valid if ccp buys wow from blizzard.
That would be funny
as **** as wow is, it generates a lot of revenue. imagine how much **** they'd get done with that kind of financial power to waste. |

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
332
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:45:00 -
[290] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:Lephia DeGrande wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:Cheng Musana wrote:If i would be a dust player who went to the fanfest to learn more about the eve-dust connection i would probs demand my money back for the fanfest ticket. You must be that kind of guy that demands his money back in the cinema if the movie was bad. Bad comparison! If the Movie is called "Lego the Movie" and everything is about Playmobil you would be pissed, wouldnt you? If the EVE Fanfest turns out to be about WoW, then yes. still valid if ccp buys wow from blizzard. Don't give them ideas. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3882
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:48:00 -
[291] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
still valid if ccp buys wow from blizzard.
That would be funny as **** as wow is, it generates a lot of revenue. imagine how much **** they'd get done with that kind of financial power to waste.
Nah I was thinking more they could suddenly issue an expansion which makes some areas "Well Guarded" by Captains Of North Caledonian Order of Real Deathdealers, and some areas where its a free for all.
And replace the Auction House with some sort of Free Market
And have a magic scroll (costing -ú15) which you could legally sell for gold or use to keep your sub active
And then watch what happens "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1146
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:48:00 -
[292] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
still valid if ccp buys wow from blizzard.
That would be funny as **** as wow is, it generates a lot of revenue. imagine how much **** they'd get done with that kind of financial power to waste. jesus we'd be drowning in tears! Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1838
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:55:00 -
[293] - Quote
Anna Karhunen wrote: Don't give them ideas.
If anything Blizzard would buy CCP. Never really heard of a smaller lesser known company to buyout a big name company.
Not to mention the fact the Blizzard makes much better games then CCP does, regardless of your opinion of WoW.
However really I doubt anyone would want to buy CCP, it is poorly structured and really outside of the Eve IP there isn't much value in the company as a whole. Eve has been the only successful thing CCP has produced, everything else has been DOA or vaporware, and even Eve's success isn't that great in comparison to MMO standards.
I always wonder what Eve and CCP would be now if they didn't waste so much time and resources on side projects which have all but failed. Also if CCP grew a pair and did radical changes to Eve to make it a true dynamic sandbox.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Pirmasis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
78
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Posted - 2014.05.03 15:01:00 -
[294] - Quote
CSM Jester's Trek opinion and confession |

Noriko Mai
1295
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Dust forums wrote:So who would love watching me box a Dev? Yea I am going to try and make this work. There is a blown up boxing ring here with gloves, but they look big and just might slip off while I'm punching Twisted
Who wants it? Now complaining that gloves may slip of his little child hands.  |

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
333
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Posted - 2014.05.03 15:56:00 -
[296] - Quote
Blog post from CPM member. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1151
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Posted - 2014.05.03 16:08:00 -
[297] - Quote
Noriko Mai wrote:Dust forums wrote:So who would love watching me box a Dev? Yea I am going to try and make this work. There is a blown up boxing ring here with gloves, but they look big and just might slip off while I'm punching Twisted
Who wants it? Now complaining that gloves may slip of his little child hands.  hell hath no fury like a woman sp invested nerd scorned Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1348
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Posted - 2014.05.03 16:48:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:Dust forums wrote: To be honest if i where the OP i would have found a dev on the pubcrawl and beat the **** out of them. For every single hour played on this game a punch on the face.
Such a nice community. All of them spend far more than $500 on Dust 514 and they are all so passionate. anyone surprised they want to move away from them?
Exactly, it's not an adult way of venting your feelings is it? Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1348
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Posted - 2014.05.03 16:52:00 -
[299] - Quote
I no longer take anything from Ripard Teg seriously after the erotica1 debacle. Ripard has no moral authority and no credibility. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Meryl SinGarda
Raytheon Intergalactic Research Gatekeepers Universe
876
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Posted - 2014.05.03 17:28:00 -
[300] - Quote
lols for days I am a spaceship! |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3890
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Posted - 2014.05.03 17:36:00 -
[301] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote: pretty sure dust is dead because it's not on the PC
Not helped by being on a platform that was pretty much terminal at least a year ago
PS3 people were/are clearly as deluded about their machine as I was about my Dreamcast in early 2001 "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
85
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Posted - 2014.05.03 17:54:00 -
[302] - Quote
Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.
This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping". |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1156
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:00:00 -
[303] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.
This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping". most of them are console fps players, for the first 6-8 months of beta we will roflstomp them by virtue of having used a keyboard & mouse for longer, sp will not matter in the slightest as itl take them ages to build the muscle memory  Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2317
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:02:00 -
[304] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.
This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping".
Sorry, for a moment there I thought you were talking about how some new players feel when they start in Eve and see all the vets with X skill points and knowledge of how they game works. This is not a signature. |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
462
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:12:00 -
[305] - Quote
Suddenly the Collector's Box seems worth more.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9497
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:28:00 -
[306] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game I don't care about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! Fixed that for you. Going by the numbers of folk playing DUST, very, very few people care about the game. However, having said that, a version of it on the pc is a brave move to raise the dead on the part of CCP. pretty sure dust is dead because it's not on the PC, that was pretty much it's biggest criticism since it's announcement. it's sensible to bring it to the pc, not brave. They're not bringing DUST to PC. They're creating an entirely new game from scratch with the same promises made for DUST. If you think they'll deliver on those promises any better than they did for DUST then you're the kind of gullible shill CCP is going for. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1351
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:42:00 -
[307] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.
This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping".
Relax man, people say pretty the same thing about Eve and it's community of 10 year old vets etc. People who don't know anything about the game often post that it's too hard to start due to all of the uber players. Game mechanics take care of this for us, I'm sure the devs can work something out. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Dave Stark
5232
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:44:00 -
[308] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game I don't care about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! Fixed that for you. Going by the numbers of folk playing DUST, very, very few people care about the game. However, having said that, a version of it on the pc is a brave move to raise the dead on the part of CCP. pretty sure dust is dead because it's not on the PC, that was pretty much it's biggest criticism since it's announcement. it's sensible to bring it to the pc, not brave. They're not bringing DUST to PC. They're creating an entirely new game from scratch with the same promises made for DUST. If you think they'll deliver on those promises any better than they did for DUST then you're the kind of gullible shill CCP is going for.
i'm aware hence i said "a version".
it probably will be terrible; but it's a kind of terrible i'd actually be willing to try. if i don't have to pay in order to play it, then there's literally no reason not to try it and find out what it's like. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9498
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:58:00 -
[309] - Quote
Of course. I'll try it too. I just refuse to invest anything in it, so I'll be unscathed when it flops. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Dave Stark
5234
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:05:00 -
[310] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Of course. I'll try it too. I just refuse to invest anything in it, so I'll be unscathed when it flops.
oh for sure. also, i wouldn't subscribe to play an FPS. i don't really think fps games suit a subscription model anyway. |
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Cyinii Erkkinen
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:14:00 -
[311] - Quote
IDGAD wrote:Anna Karhunen wrote:While I look forward to playing Legion, I have to wonder why CCP failed to heed the advice given to them by CSM (and probably by CPM as well). This reveal and Dust community have been handled in extremely incompetent manner. Whoever decided that this is the way to do it all should be moved to other duties, for PR is certainly not part of their skillset. The DUST 514 PR is taken care of by Mintchip. This was the girl who just a week before being hired by CCP, would not stop bashing EVE and saying how much CCP was a horrible company, while at the same time trying to get neckbeards to buy her things from her amazon wishlist. This seems wholly in line with hiring someone so inexperienced and outright bad for a PR role. Bad choices by CCP aside, yes it is a PR nightmare and I hear from some posts that sony is even reimbursing recent "arum" purchases due to this whole issue? If so, that's pretty impressive since Sony takes a really hard line on refunds and usually just says tough luck.
Lol Mintchip got fired a long time ago, very quickly in fact. I only saw her post at most 4 times. |

Cyinii Erkkinen
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:18:00 -
[312] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.
This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping".
Even if DUST SP does get transfered, the skill system is changing dramatically (for the worse) so not all of the SP is going to make it through. Also, DUST players are used to playing on a controller with an aim assist that does %60 of the work for them, If you've played PC shooters before, you should be fine. |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
366
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:38:00 -
[313] - Quote
To be honest if this Dust/Legion thing would be an EA Project everyone would **** on them... and CCP... I dunno sometimes they act like a cun.t... Meet the Mario Kart 8 - Capsuleer Club Cup |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
85
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:47:00 -
[314] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Cheng Musana wrote:Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.
This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping". Sorry, for a moment there I thought you were talking about how some new players feel when they start in Eve and see all the vets with X skill points and knowledge of how the game works. Well on dust you either have proto equipment or you get stomped. There is no other option to it. Noobs that show up in militia gear are getting instantly murdered by vets. it just doesnt matter how good you are when the guy you are shoting has like double or even tripple the HP then you got, he just turns around, shots you a couple of times and thats about it. Oh and if you see a hostile tank dont even bother cause your Anti Vehicle weapons dont even put a dent into that thing if you dont have them maxed out.
Dust has big balancing issues where only the vets truly rule over the game. Another thing is quite a decent amount of the dust players actually do use keyboard+mouse cause its supported on the PS3. So the shift from the PS3-PC wouldnt be to big of a problem. |

Noriko Mai
1308
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:03:00 -
[315] - Quote
Cheng Musana wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Cheng Musana wrote:Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.
This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping". Sorry, for a moment there I thought you were talking about how some new players feel when they start in Eve and see all the vets with X skill points and knowledge of how the game works. Well on dust you either have proto equipment or you get stomped. There is no other option to it. Noobs that show up in militia gear are getting instantly murdered by vets. it just doesnt matter how good you are when the guy you are shoting has like double or even tripple the HP then you got, he just turns around, shots you a couple of times and thats about it. Oh and if you see a hostile tank dont even bother cause your Anti Vehicle weapons dont even put a dent into that thing if you dont have them maxed out. Dust has big balancing issues where only the vets truly rule over the game. Another thing is quite a decent amount of the dust players actually do use keyboard+mouse cause its supported on the PS3. So the shift from the PS3-PC wouldnt be to big of a problem. And that's the reason why I hope it will be tied with eve subscription or somthing like that. Microtransactions is the worst thing ever invented in video game history. Even worse than console shooters. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1398

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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:40:00 -
[316] - Quote
Locked for cleaning. ISD LackOfFaith Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums. |
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Vahl Ahashion
Risk Breakers Fidelas Constans
19
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:03:00 -
[317] - Quote
Its fantastic news, PC is the only place to make a game that should be as complex and epic as an FPS in the EVE universe. |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
245
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:08:00 -
[318] - Quote
The way they announced it is a shame, but really..... Dust should've been on the PC from the beginning, so much more potential. Hopefully CCP will still make the leap. Baddest poster ever |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1885
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:23:00 -
[319] - Quote
As I said in another topic:
I hope the Dust backlash doesnt endanger their plans with Legion as they made the right decision there and there is alot of potential.
They shot themselves in the foot with the way they anounced it however and I have no idea how anyone in their right mind thought this would end well. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Hurtado Soneka
Rogue of Blade
210
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:27:00 -
[320] - Quote
CCP has lost a ton if not all of their creditibility over this though, they have proven they are willing to dump a consumer base if they can do the same thing somewhere else if its easier to do
Ill be playing some Legion, sure as hell wont pay a penny though, looking at the track record with Dust, those devs dont have a clue what they are doing |
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Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
889
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:29:00 -
[321] - Quote
I used to play FPS games a while back (UT99, Quake, CS) and I'm looking forward to seeing how bad I've gotten with age.
I wouldn't pay for it though, unless my participation has a direct positive influence on my EVE playstyle. |

NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
834
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:58:00 -
[322] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:As I said in another topic:
I hope the Dust backlash doesnt endanger their plans with Legion as they made the right decision there and there is alot of potential.
They shot themselves in the foot with the way they anounced it however and I have no idea how anyone in their right mind thought this would end well. Camera crew didnt tell him that there would be no televised qa session His plan was to let people ask and get answers So when you cut out the actual answers and people run off... Hence the pull on stage during the finale |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
85
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:25:00 -
[323] - Quote
What does you guys make believe that microtransaction would vanish with the transition from Dust-Legion? It seemed like a profitable system for CCP so far. And you have to keep in mind that they tested this system now numerous times which works like this:
-anounce event that increases SP gain -put SP boosters which double your SP gain on the market for AUR -see crowds of people buying sayd booster to get the max out of the event.
This worked very well so far cause you can turn something like double SP event into a quad SP event for you if you buy a advertised SP booster from CCP. Same goes for Dropsuits, weapons etc. You could buy that stuff aswell for AUR and it was avaible at a lower skill lvl. You seriously think CCP would give up a cow that they could milk forever? Just look at the dust forums, some people there spent like 600$ on that F2P game. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1377
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:31:00 -
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DUST will not die, it will "rot", so you could still play it, but the progression of the updates for that game will be slower. Still you will be playing better game than what DUST used to be. Relax people. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |

Atlantis Fuanan
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
74
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:37:00 -
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In my opinion, LEGION is comming way to late. I'm not that interested in seeing an standalone FPS about the EVE Universe, unless the interaction between LEGION and EVE / Dust and EVE will get finaly usefull. Currently, I don't feel the impact on EVE from "the other universe". Things that would make EVE better: NRDS - Remove Local - Balance Cloak - Sov-Mechanic Changes - Less QQ |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1378
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:47:00 -
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Why would they focus on PC? Because it would be easier to use the one platform to one universe and shared services, you turn on your pc log in and play. If you are FPS fan think about Deus Ex, you had a battlefield and you could play one instance in many ways. Add a MMorpg style of loot and market that is both flooded with items from eve online and eve legion, the ground market. I would make it that way. You could produce tanks with legion resources and eve resources combined and then sell them to ground troops, everything on pc. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
2958
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:52:00 -
[327] - Quote
If it's going to be stupid micro transactions, I'll still play. There was this game (wont mention name) I was in early beta then open beta. I carried a sub as it wasn't f2p. Eventually it went f2p, I ran with an f2p account and spent money. I went from spending $15/m to about $3/mo. Played another year, the community changed, it sucked, I stopped playing. I pref a nice tight community subscription game, but I'll still play if it's f2p... and probably spend very little.
They would be better off doing something like Quake Live does, and no real pay to win. Limited free and premium accounts on a sub. Yes, QL operates off of a subscription model. |

Doris Dents
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
389
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Posted - 2014.05.04 10:15:00 -
[328] - Quote
Belated good move by CCP. Ever since DUST was announced as a PS3 exclusive we've been telling them it's a dreadful mistake and PC is the natural home of a game set in the EVE universe. Perhaps finally CCP will get the message that we're not dumb, we know what we want and we know what we'd pay for. You cannot just produce any old crap and expect people to happily chow down, you have to listen to your customers and fulfill their needs. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3040
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Posted - 2014.05.04 10:55:00 -
[329] - Quote
Doris Dents wrote:Belated good move by CCP. Ever since DUST was announced as a PS3 exclusive we've been telling them it's a dreadful mistake and PC is the natural home of a game set in the EVE universe. Perhaps finally CCP will get the message that we're not dumb, we know what we want and we know what we'd pay for. You cannot just produce any old crap and expect people to happily chow down, you have to listen to your customers and fulfill their needs. It actually makes me very hopeful that the people making the big decisions have it right. The PS3 is a discontinued platform, so they need to change platform at some, not too distant, point in time. Since Dust has had a meager reception at best on console, they can either go sunk-cost fallacy and throw good money after bad to try to appease the small player-base, or they can make the only logical decision at this point, and move to a platform that never obsoletes itself (I can and do still play PC games from literally 20 years ago). That CCP have swapped platform rather than digging themselves into a hole by trying to move to PS4 shows they're willing to take a huge blow to the chin if it means winning the fight. CCP might make a lot of mistakes, but they don't have a glass jaw. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Cyinii Erkkinen
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:45:00 -
[330] - Quote
Webvan wrote:If it's going to be stupid micro transactions, I'll still play. There was this game (wont mention name) I was in early beta then open beta. I carried a sub as it wasn't f2p. Eventually it went f2p, I ran with an f2p account and spent money. I went from spending $15/m to about $3/mo. Played another year, the community changed, it sucked, I stopped playing. I pref a nice tight community subscription game, but I'll still play if it's f2p... and probably spend very little.
They would be better off doing something like Quake Live does, and no real pay to win. Limited free and premium accounts on a sub. Yes, QL operates off of a subscription model.
DCUO?
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1369
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:34:00 -
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Harbonah wrote:I played Dust for about three days when it hit beta. I never picked it up again. Poor design, lack of meanful EVE interaction, bad balance, poor performance. I was personally disappointed when I was told it was coming out on PS3. I gave it a bit of a trial and was only reinforced in my opinion that it would not be a good game. I don't know a single EVE player that has particpated or cared about Dust or it's limited options for EVE interaction.
I am not convinced it will be a successful PC game either until they can make it interact meaningfully with EVE. In terms of EVE, nobody cares about Dust and there is no reason to.
We were always promised that we could land troops to take out someone else's PI and hire mercenaries to defend our own.
This needs to happen in legion. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4865
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:39:00 -
[332] - Quote
Well, I asked for this for years. I always played Eve and one FPS game but COD2 is old and it's hard to find servers, so I have waited.
In a few weeks I will start building a new PC with an eye on Legion.
I wonder what the hardware requirements will be? Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

London
Justified Chaos
60
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:46:00 -
[333] - Quote
Does anyone know if the engine is Unreal 4 since that's also what Valkyrie uses? (and Dust is Unreal 3 so that seems like a logical progression).
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SpoonRECKLESS
LOGI R Us
187
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:17:00 -
[334] - Quote
YESSS!! I've been waiting for this I got a new PC YEAH!! EVE AND DUST WOOOHOOO!!! Blue
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9524
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:20:00 -
[335] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Doris Dents wrote:Belated good move by CCP. Ever since DUST was announced as a PS3 exclusive we've been telling them it's a dreadful mistake and PC is the natural home of a game set in the EVE universe. Perhaps finally CCP will get the message that we're not dumb, we know what we want and we know what we'd pay for. You cannot just produce any old crap and expect people to happily chow down, you have to listen to your customers and fulfill their needs. It actually makes me very hopeful that the people making the big decisions have it right. The PS3 is a discontinued platform, so they need to change platform at some, not too distant, point in time. Since Dust has had a meager reception at best on console, they can either go sunk-cost fallacy and throw good money after bad to try to appease the small player-base, or they can make the only logical decision at this point, and move to a platform that never obsoletes itself (I can and do still play PC games from literally 20 years ago). That CCP have swapped platform rather than digging themselves into a hole by trying to move to PS4 shows they're willing to take a huge blow to the chin if it means winning the fight. CCP might make a lot of mistakes, but they don't have a glass jaw. That said they shouldn't have had DUST players fly out to Fanfest just to hear about their game getting the cold treatment. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Ivy greene
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
120
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:33:00 -
[336] - Quote
I'm hoping it will have better music/sfx than the console version. I'm getting tired of blacklight. I need my futuristic cyberpunk warfare fix  I've been told I'm somewhat famous, no idea why...
http://themittani.com/features/alod-you-cannot-jump-here |

Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
287
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:45:00 -
[337] - Quote
If your a dedicated Dust ps3 player I suspected you are a bit pissed atm. But since there are only about 2,000 of them from CCP's own numbers then I think they have done the math and decided a F2P PC shooter just makes more sense.
What they should be doing is looking at who made the decision to go with ps3 in the first place.
If I could run an eve client on one screen and a legion on the other then that is going to be something interesting for certain. I wonder how long til Legion rolls out.
Anyone get any indication around the release date?
TBH I am kinda excited by the idea of Valkyrie and legion and EVE all on the same platform. Looks like PC gaming is going to really take off, already saving my pennies for an occulus.
Good times. |

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
454
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:51:00 -
[338] - Quote
Higgs Foton wrote:. Making it console only while having to compete with much, much better games (BF3 and such) was pretty much suicide.
Pretty much what they said when the XBox was announced. You're not going to claim any of the market share if you never try. |

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
454
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:52:00 -
[339] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Harbonah wrote:I played Dust for about three days when it hit beta. I never picked it up again. Poor design, lack of meanful EVE interaction, bad balance, poor performance. I was personally disappointed when I was told it was coming out on PS3. I gave it a bit of a trial and was only reinforced in my opinion that it would not be a good game. I don't know a single EVE player that has particpated or cared about Dust or it's limited options for EVE interaction.
I am not convinced it will be a successful PC game either until they can make it interact meaningfully with EVE. In terms of EVE, nobody cares about Dust and there is no reason to. We were always promised that we could land troops to take out someone else's PI and hire mercenaries to defend our own. This needs to happen in legion.
We were not "always promised" that. It was the original design idea that got Dust off the ground. A vision statement is not a promise. |

45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
64
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:59:00 -
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BayneNothos wrote:If Dust characters can't be transferred over to Legion can I suggest you DON'T send anyone from the Dust team down to EvE Down Under this year. You won't be getting a warm welcome from the Aus Dust players.
Don't be so negative about that allot of people wanted Dust 514 to be on PC from the start and I was one of those people who would enjoy Dust on PC.
I knew from the start that Dust 514 dose not work on the console that well or would be limited to the hardware that the PS 3 has.
And over time the PS 3 is now redundant technology and the PS 4 has taken over.
With The PC you can upgrade the graphic card and the hardware in the computer.
But with a console you cannot upgrade the hardware to the same extent as a PC.
I hope this gives the console players some light on the hardware restrictions compare to a PC. I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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Roy Hawkinz
R0GUE ENTITY
0
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:17:00 -
[341] - Quote
Best annoucement ever. I bought a ps3 slim special for dust 514. Now I can finnaly move to the pc again and play with all me friends.
I 100% support this move. Just green lit this and everyone will by very happy. |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
358
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:31:00 -
[342] - Quote
45thtiger 0109 wrote:BayneNothos wrote:If Dust characters can't be transferred over to Legion can I suggest you DON'T send anyone from the Dust team down to EvE Down Under this year. You won't be getting a warm welcome from the Aus Dust players. Don't be so negative about that allot of people wanted Dust 514 to be on PC from the start and I was one of those people who would enjoy Dust on PC. I knew from the start that Dust 514 dose not work on the console that well or would be limited to the hardware that the PS 3 has. And over time the PS 3 is now redundant technology and the PS 4 has taken over. With The PC you can upgrade the graphic card and the hardware in the computer. But with a console you cannot upgrade the hardware to the same extent as a PC. I hope this gives the console players some light on the hardware restrictions compare to a PC. Someone started to me in RL quite a few years ago, that the console market would take over the PC market will I sorry to say the technology for the console still dose not match the PC Technology and the PC market has made a come back and will get stronger again.
100% true. Console players can be converted if properly shown the light.
My cousin was a console player right up to the point when I let him Cyrsis 2's Blackfire mod at 120fps ultra settings on my game rig. Every 5 seconds he was like "OMFG I can't believe what this looks like!! OMG OMG OMG!!" 
Every time he comes over now, he wants to play Crysis 3 for a little while to get his fix. 
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EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Dr Techenstein Techsalt
SWAMPERIUM
3
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Posted - 2014.05.05 18:24:00 -
[343] - Quote
Dusts player base are mostly console only so they lack any real experience with decent games and refer to shtty games like mag as if they were amazing when really they just don't know any better.
CCP was drawing feedback from the deprived, how could they have thought it'd work lol. Dust merc- TechMechMeds, logistics
Eve legion ftw
Dust scum think they can dominate legion lol |

Wildmouse X
Clan McLoud Care Factor
0
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Posted - 2014.05.05 18:36:00 -
[344] - Quote
I will surely be contributing to the FPS front.. While I am enjoying the space sim portion, I do tend to get competitive in FPS'..
In U.T. I could crack into the top 100 when I would play regular. here is an old 2k4 video we did to announce a modded server launch (I'm the red guy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz0DnP7wXnU - as a side note, the blue guy there was rated 22nd in the world at the time, Can probably talk him into dust with little effort. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5342
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Posted - 2014.05.05 18:38:00 -
[345] - Quote
Dr Techenstein Techsalt wrote: CCP was drawing feedback from the deprived, how could they have thought it'd work lol.
CCP has been getting feedback from the depraved around here for so long, perhaps someone in DUST marketing had dyslexia and/or just got the two confused.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.05.05 18:57:00 -
[346] - Quote
Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards. This would be why they are rebuilding it from scratch, only using the stuff from DUST that actually worked, rather than simply porting DUST 514 to PC.
CCP is a company that develops based on trial and error, and given the amount of error in the development of DUST 514 on the PS3, it is likely they learned a few things. All the stuff that in hindsight they would have done differently, they will now have a chance to do differently.
I am personally a little disappointed as after 16 months of playing DUST 514 I was finally starting to get the hang of that cluncky consul controller, and given that I play EVE on a Mac currently, this means I will probably have to buy a Gaming computer (and a computer that will run Legion and EVE at the same time on different monitors is not going to be cheap!), but as far as what is best for the game, and what will allow them to finally achieve the original vision behind DUST, this was probably the right move. |

Dr Techenstein Techsalt
SWAMPERIUM
3
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:03:00 -
[347] - Quote
Renier Gaden wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Salvo Aivo wrote:and here I am, sill not caring. I don't care that you don't care about Dust coming to PC. About frickin' time, CCP!  have you actually tried playing it on the playstation? It's not going to fare any better on the PC. Dust is rubbish. Nowhere near EVE standards. This would be why they are rebuilding it from scratch, only using the stuff from DUST that actually worked, rather than simply porting DUST 514 to PC. CCP is a company that develops based on trial and error, and given the amount of error in the development of DUST 514 on the PS3, it is likely they learned a few things. All the stuff that in hindsight they would have done differently, they will now have a chance to do differently. I am personally a little disappointed as after 16 months of playing DUST 514 I was finally starting to get the hang of that cluncky consul controller, and given that I play EVE on a Mac currently, this means I will probably have to buy a Gaming computer (and a computer that will run Legion and EVE at the same time on different monitors is not going to be cheap!), but as far as what is best for the game, and what will allow them to finally achieve the original vision behind DUST, this was probably the right move.
o7, who is your dust clone?. Dust merc- TechMechMeds, logistics
Eve legion ftw
Dust scum think they can dominate legion lol |

Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:07:00 -
[348] - Quote
Tavin Aikisen wrote:It's a shame we lose the DUST title though. Not necessarily. Project Legion is the code name for the development project, not the final name of the game they are developing. EVE:Legion is just what we are all using as a working title. |

Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:21:00 -
[349] - Quote
Gothikia wrote:Contrary to what people think (and what I personally hoped) this IS NOT DUST FOR PC?! Confused? Yeah, read this: http://dust514.com/news/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/Pay attention to this part: Quote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of.
So is Dust being killed and Legion is replacing it? Legion is not even close to Closed Beta yet. By the time it is released the PS3 will be very very old. DUST 514 on PlayStation will die due to the platform dying, hopefully around the time Legion is ready for release.
I feel like I am standing on the deck of the Titanic watching the Queen Merry II coming over the horizon, and hoping it gets close before I am left swimming. For now I will try to enjoy the music as the band plays on... |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1227
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:23:00 -
[350] - Quote
Renier Gaden wrote:Gothikia wrote:Contrary to what people think (and what I personally hoped) this IS NOT DUST FOR PC?! Confused? Yeah, read this: http://dust514.com/news/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/Pay attention to this part: Quote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of.
So is Dust being killed and Legion is replacing it? Legion is not even close to Closed Beta yet. By the time it is released the PS3 will be very very old. DUST 514 on PlayStation will die due to the platform dying, hopefully around the time Legion is ready for release. I feel like I am standing on the deck of the Titanic watching the Queen Merry II coming over the horizon, and hoping it gets close before I am left swimming. For now I will try to enjoy the music as the band plays on... or you know, you could play eve instead. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á Soylent Green Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
189
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:27:00 -
[351] - Quote
Didn't read the whole thread but, did anyone mention if Eve Legion could also be used to introduce WIS ? |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1107
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:36:00 -
[352] - Quote
Vicar2008 wrote:About freaking time, it was never going to fully work on PS3. Well done CCP on finally getting it right.
soon-«
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |

Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:39:00 -
[353] - Quote
Gothikia wrote:Even though this is awesome, yes, we should also remember something very important.
CCP has now spent our sub money on two games that they've now cancelled. It might be time that CCP sit down and give us a better explanation (either at EVE Keynote, or CCP Presents) on why they've wasted our money in this way and why we should trust them with Legion. If this is going to be "What we should have done in the first place with Dust", then we want to know why you ****** up, where you ****** up and why what you're doing now is different and isn't going to be a waste of money.
At least I think all of us (even the dust bunnies) deserve that. You actually have to sell us on Legion since we're the ones who are (and will) spend money on it. What makes you think it is your money they are spending on DUST? Think about it:
- EVE exists in China on a separate server. There are so many people on that server that they recently had a battle bigger than the biggest battle ever on tranquillity.
- DUST development is based in China.
Do you see a correlation? I expect that China would tax CCP heavily if they tried to take the money they earned in China and spend it in Iceland, so instead they open a development office in China and spend the money earned from Chinees EVE players on DUST development based in China.
Stop thinking of DUST as a waist of your money. It is clearly a money laundering operation for dealing with revenue generated in China. |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
244
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Posted - 2014.05.05 20:59:00 -
[354] - Quote
Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game nobody cares about because it's 5 years behind anything already out!
It looks a lot like bf2142 which will certainly gain it a lot of initial interest from players of that era. I know I will at least give it a shot and if it's not any good no skin off my nose.
The real question is: if legion becomes popular will CCP take the necessary measures to keep it successful? LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Noriko Mai
1329
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:04:00 -
[355] - Quote
Caleb Seremshur wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Awesome. A pc port of a game nobody cares about because it's 5 years behind anything already out! It looks a lot like bf2142 which will certainly gain it a lot of initial interest from players of that era. I know I will at least give it a shot and if it's not any good no skin off my nose. The real question is: if legion becomes popular will CCP take the necessary measures to keep it successful? No. They will shut it down after two years, no matter what. It's meant as a ISK sink to keep the economy stable. |

Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
420
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:37:00 -
[356] - Quote
So I guess Xbox 360 is still out of the picture?
No good deed goes unpunished |

Cyinii Erkkinen
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:52:00 -
[357] - Quote
I'd ask that any EVE players here in support of project legion go to this page and like it http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/
There are some very stupid bunnies assuming facebook likes on a dev blog that no one reads = community reception but I wouldn't be suprised to learn that this is what CCP is using to gauge reception  |

45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
66
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:15:00 -
[358] - Quote
Renier Gaden wrote:Gothikia wrote:Even though this is awesome, yes, we should also remember something very important.
CCP has now spent our sub money on two games that they've now cancelled. It might be time that CCP sit down and give us a better explanation (either at EVE Keynote, or CCP Presents) on why they've wasted our money in this way and why we should trust them with Legion. If this is going to be "What we should have done in the first place with Dust", then we want to know why you ****** up, where you ****** up and why what you're doing now is different and isn't going to be a waste of money.
At least I think all of us (even the dust bunnies) deserve that. You actually have to sell us on Legion since we're the ones who are (and will) spend money on it. What makes you think it is your money they are spending on DUST? Think about it: - EVE exists in China on a separate server. There are so many people on that server that they recently had a battle bigger than the biggest battle ever on tranquillity. - DUST development is based in China. Do you see a correlation? I expect that China would tax CCP heavily if they tried to take the money they earned in China and spend it in Iceland, so instead they open a development office in China and spend the money earned from Chinees EVE players on DUST development based in China. Stop thinking of DUST as a waist of your money. It is clearly a money laundering operation for dealing with revenue generated in China.
What a load of bulls^&t I don't think CCP would do that sort of thing that you have explained above in your untrue quote.
CCP are a company and the company needs to make money to pay the staff, buy new and updated tech ect ect.
So until you have proof of this and have seen CCP do that sort of thing please shut the F%^k up.
ISD & CCP anyone who attack CCP should get a warning.
I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5356
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:20:00 -
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Should this thread continue to decline in terms of reality, a tinfoil hat will automatically be dispensed from the overhead compartment. Place it firmly over your head covering any exposed areas.
If you are travelling with a child or someone who requires assistance, secure your hat first, and then assist the other person. Keep your hat on until a Dev or ISD member advises you to remove it.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
366
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:33:00 -
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Dragon Outlaw wrote:Didn't read the whole thread but, did anyone mention if Eve Legion could also be used to introduce WIS ?
Well on page 23 of the dev blog, they addressed WiS directly, and it was good news.
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Tou Chme
EV1L G0DS
0
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:37:00 -
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Sign me in  |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
25283
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Posted - 2014.05.06 10:01:00 -
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Belt Scout wrote:Well on page 23 of the dev blog, they addressed WiS directly, and it was good news.
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And there it is again, my glorious vision of capsuleers changing clones to be mercs or fighter pilots at will...
...yea, I like Ghost in the Shell.  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:14:00 -
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Dr Techenstein Techsalt wrote: o7, who is your dust clone?.
On the DUST 514 forums I am known as Fox Gaden. In game I also play as Crash Gaden. |

Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:23:00 -
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Hurtado Soneka wrote: Legion will be a shiny Dust, but you cant polish a turd so good luck with that.
Actually, you can.
Of course, that doesn't mean Legion will be good or not, I'm just pointing out that the axiom is invalid. |

Ra'Shyne Viper
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
81
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:14:00 -
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Belt Scout wrote:Dragon Outlaw wrote:Didn't read the whole thread but, did anyone mention if Eve Legion could also be used to introduce WIS ? Well on page 23 of the dev blog, they addressed WiS directly, and it was good news. .
What blog are you talking about? DUST 514 player
Ingame name: Vin Vicious |

Ramere
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:59:00 -
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I shall be playing this on my PC. Except I will play with a controller. Never did like keyboard and mouse shooting. |

Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
852
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:51:00 -
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So now we need to wait how long it take to get iambot scripting data pack recode programma`s to show up. Yah good move i dont think so. Yah i know on console you can do that to but, its harder to do. or you need a hack console.
i hope the have server only stuff. And the client needs to reload everything. And watch dog program to control the taskbar what the user is doing. Outside his alt-tab or alt-enter sessions. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4868
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:08:00 -
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Alright now we can get past the nerdgasm and down to work.
What's the deal on this? Will there be an alpha? A beta? Is there a mailing list to get on? A forum to join? I want to camp out on the line. Where's the door? Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.05.08 09:24:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Renier Gaden wrote:Gothikia wrote:Contrary to what people think (and what I personally hoped) this IS NOT DUST FOR PC?! Confused? Yeah, read this: http://dust514.com/news/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/Pay attention to this part: Quote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of.
So is Dust being killed and Legion is replacing it? EVE is a great tactical game, but sometimes I like to exercise twitch muscle reactions and do my own aiming. That is why the tree games will jell so well together. They are three very different ways of experiencing the same universe. I feel like I am standing on the deck of the Titanic watching the Queen Merry II coming over the horizon, and hoping it gets close before I am left swimming. For now I will try to enjoy the music as the band plays on... or you know, you could play eve instead.  EVE is a great tactical game, but sometimes I like to exercise twitch muscle reactions and do my own aiming. That is why the three games will jell so well together. They are three very different ways of experiencing the same universe. |

Lugalbandak
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
474
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:09:00 -
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Tysun Kane wrote:CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion.
yeah look the forum overthere , butthurt is great , apperntly we are all sociapaths here at eve
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
119
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:35:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:Tysun Kane wrote:CCP just kill Star Citizen. Good job guys can 't wait to play legion. yeah look the forum overthere , butthurt is great , apperntly we are all sociapaths here at eve A link would increase your chance for a like dramatically! |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2831
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:10:00 -
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I may actually be able to coerce my fps buddies to try it now  |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
952
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:17:00 -
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With Sony and MS dropping their custom architectures used in the PS3 (cell..ugh) and Xbox 360, for standard PC-friendly chipsets in the PS4 and Xbone, the potential to port from PC to consoles is vastly increased...
I wouldn't be surprised if Legion PC becomes the 'base' code, and CCP subsequently ports it to PS4 and Xbone with a later announcment of Dust514's code stream's demise.
My further prediction is that while Legion will run on PC, PS4 and Xbone -- due to inherent play differentials of mouse vs. controller (as fail-prototyped by MS game-matching PC and X360 players in the same game), all three platforms would integrate with EvE but not each other. i.e. Legion matchmaking would remain PS4 to PS4, Xbone to Xbone, and PC to PC -- all having hooks into EVE.
F Would you like to know more? |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5886
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:23:00 -
[374] - Quote
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:With Sony and MS dropping their custom architectures used in the PS3 (cell..ugh) and Xbox 360, for standard PC-friendly chipsets in the PS4 and Xbone, the potential to port from PC to consoles is vastly increased... I wouldn't be surprised if Legion becomes the 'base' code, and CCP subsequently ports it to PS4 and Xbone with a later announcment of Dust514's code stream's demise. My further prediction is that while Legion will run on PC, PS4 and Xbone -- due to inherent play differentials of mouse vs. controller (as prototyped by MS game-matching PC and X360 players in the same game), all three platforms would integrate with EvE but not each other. i.e. Matchmaking would remain PS4 to PS4, Xbone to Xbone, and PC to PC -- all having hooks into EVE. F
Interestingly, if they were to work at it, and if they slowed the overall speed of play by a small amount, they could integrate each one together.
Notably this has been done with the new Final Fantasy(Realm Reborn I think it's called), it has cross system support. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
954
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:27:00 -
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...also I think the selection of the name 'Legion' is possibly an easter egg.
Legion is a biblical reference to a clarification that a demon wasn't singular, but multiple entities. i.e. WE are Legion. I wonder if CCP named it Legion as a subtle hint that the strategy is to put it on multiple platforms in the future.
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Would you like to know more? |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5886
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:29:00 -
[376] - Quote
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:...also I think the selection of the name 'Legion' is possibly an easter egg. Legion is a biblical reference to a clarification that a demon wasn't singular, but multiple entities. i.e. WE are Legion. I wonder if CCP named it Legion as a subtle hint that the strategy is to put it on multiple platforms in the future. F
I think it's actually a reference to the "one launcher for 3 games" thing they plan on. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
120
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:47:00 -
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Actually, assuming that only a single reason or explanation is the right one ...
... makes no sense whatsoever. |

Xavos Shihari
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2014.06.24 08:34:00 -
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There are a lot of repeated comments and points here so I hope I haven't done so again, but I have a few to add:
- For those who say they just want to chill on the couch playing Dust/Legion, if CCP releases Legion on Steam (eves on there so theres no reason why they wouldnt) then with the myriad of Steam Boxes coming out YOU CAN :D Not to mention you can just buy the Xbox Controller for windows o_O
PROBLEM SOLVED :D
- For those who say they will never be able to afford a $2000 gaming rig, Steam boxes will be able to run windows and cost a comparable amount to new gen consoles. Not to mention you can get pc's for similar prices to consoles anyway which can play modern games. I am telling you this as a long running pc gamer and builder of pcs who also works in the technology events industry.
PROBLEM SOLVED :D
- For those saying they want to play with a controller, steam box has one, xbox has a windows controller. HELL they release the freakin kinect for windows too. See us pc gamers even get the bad peripherals from your bloody xbox world. :P Dust514 has always supported both keyboard mouse and controller, I always used to play it with a keyboard mouse. So no difference in gameplay balance there.
PROBLEM SOLVED :D
- For those who are pissed about all the money the spent on Dust, they have already announced there will be character porting in a as fair way as possible. So stop spending money on Dust514, and look forward to having a well earned headstart in project legion after you get a Steam Box for a few hundred bucks
PROBLEM SOVED :D
On this last topic though, I am honest to the eve gods though when I say that I hope in all hell its not free to play again :S I would most definitely charge money for the initial game, and charge for additional map packs and expansions like Titanfall. BUT PLEASE have a better campaign (ie single player) or none at all!!!!!!
If they do go free to play, they can take a lot of hints and balancing advise from the guys doing Mech Warrior Online. Very well done good sirs, never thought I would call myself a core gamer of a free to play game!
I think a market industry link to eve will be essential. Maybe along with a PI update in eve to incorporate aspects of legion? Maybe PI eve players could even be the ones to construct assets for Legion Mercs while the same eve players pay the mercs to protect their planetary installations. I wouldn't be surprised if all this industry shakeup is partially in preparation for this extension of the economy to be honest.
Also one more point to make, where in gods hell are the people who say eve is empty getting the **** their smoking?! coz I want some... The reason why null sec activity has declined recently is because the powers that be are too big, there are too few real sides at war. This is a political issue and a WHOLE other can of fish.
Plus everyone knows if you're looking for a quick brawl you go to low sec. where in there are always plenty of threats and prey to be found. then if in complete doubt, go bug RvB, E-uni or Brave Newbies ;) |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4069
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Posted - 2014.06.24 09:10:00 -
[379] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:...also I think the selection of the name 'Legion' is possibly an easter egg. Legion is a biblical reference to a clarification that a demon wasn't singular, but multiple entities. i.e. WE are Legion. I wonder if CCP named it Legion as a subtle hint that the strategy is to put it on multiple platforms in the future. F I think it's actually a reference to the "one launcher for 3 games" thing they plan on. They should've named it Hydra then.
Hail Hydra! |

Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.06.24 09:32:00 -
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Legion. Awesome. I want to see WALKING IN STATIONS revitalised, I want to see ability to hijack stations, i want to see boarding parties taking over battleships, I want to see pirates running through the decks of Titans shooting the crew, I want to see a boarding party able to capture ships from the INSIDE whilst the 'captain' spins his ship, or leaves command to run around his ship to defend it.. I want to see boarding parties able to shut down vital systems in ships, put warp drive offline, take guns offline.. take active low slot modules out one by one.
I dont want a lot, but it will convince me that SC isn't worth looking at....... |
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