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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
27
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Posted - 2011.11.18 04:57:00 -
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A 20% reduction in shield, armor, and structure hp. So a 60% nerf in titan ehp. So so happy. |
Aamrr
HnL Enterprise
151
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Posted - 2011.11.18 05:02:00 -
[152] - Quote
Erm...it doesn't work like that.... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1542
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Posted - 2011.11.18 05:59:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:A 20% reduction in shield, armor, and structure hp. So a 60% nerf in titan ehp. So so happy. No. It's a 20% nerf.
20% A + 20% B + 20% C = 20% (A+B+C)
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GÇö Karath Piki-á |
mkint
362
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Posted - 2011.11.18 06:14:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Acac Sunflyier wrote:A 20% reduction in shield, armor, and structure hp. So a 60% nerf in titan ehp. So so happy. No. It's a 20% nerf. 20% A + 20% B + 20% C = 20% (A+B+C)
Hooray for elementary math!
Take a 20% slice out of 3 wheels of Cheese and you still have 80% left. Saying they got a 60%nerf is as absurd as saying they got a 240% buff. |
Tear Miner
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.11.18 09:04:00 -
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You again?
Actually I believe you're just hilariously mad. |
Danny John-Peter
PCG Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2011.11.18 10:50:00 -
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Firstly; I had to leave my office half way through reading this thread to buy cheese and oatcakes.
Secondly; Porte Salut
Thirdly; SCAPs will still **** train anything with a sig radius of a BS or above (as has already been mention, Drakes = LSEs = Omnomnom) with its fighters, will still tank like well, a tank, can lay down serious hurt against other caps, has invulnerability to all ECM and can't be pinned by anything that isn't a bubble or a HIC
They are still powerful weapons, they need help killing stuff that isnt a Drake or a Battleship, this is good, it is supposed to give my Hurricane something to do.
PS SCAPs are not my end game, I know many long time players who never wanted to fly one, I may be convinced to get a Carrier one day but that is the end of it.
PPS Why would you not just warp away from an Ibis, unless they can fit HIC fields now, which is an interesting buff to the Noob Ship. |
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2011.11.18 11:01:00 -
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xxxak wrote:mkint wrote:Your post would have been better if you were trying to garner the support of your fellow forumites instead of insulting them just for the hell of it.
That said, this (potentially good) topic is now about cheese. I don't think I am insulting most forum-dwelling fatbodies. I think I am insulting CCP... but correct me if I am wrong.. :p
The cluelessness of your post was insulting enough.
The loser in any fight consols himself with a moral victory. Thus is the beginning of slave-morality.
Your Homework |
BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
32
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Posted - 2011.11.18 11:50:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:You're complaining about more people dying? wtf is the world comming to?
/me approves these wise words !
Supercarriers were not meant for small ou solo gank. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
21
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Posted - 2011.11.18 12:00:00 -
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A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101
Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue-¦s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting
This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
210
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Posted - 2011.11.18 12:11:00 -
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Andski wrote:I don't see anything regarding that.
edit: Got "01:29:44 Notify You cannot activate that module on the target as interference prevents assistance from being given to them." when I tried to tracking link an Erebus, :toot:
Nice improvement !!
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Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
44
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Posted - 2011.11.18 12:15:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:mkint wrote:Your post would have been better if you were trying to garner the support of your fellow forumites instead of insulting them just for the hell of it.
That said, this (potentially good) topic is now about cheese. I like velveta cheese for some reason, Its supposed to be cheddar but the way it melts and gooey and the sorts just make it far superior to most other cheddars i know of. Also american cheese isnt a real cheese is a cheese byproduct.
And you think Velveta is real cheese?
Not saying it isn't delicious, because it is the greatest "cheese" ever. But I think its chemical structure is closer to plastic than cheese. |
March rabbit
Ganse
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
42
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Posted - 2011.11.18 12:58:00 -
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Andski wrote:Vincent Gaines wrote:Andski wrote:Supercaps are ... absolutely screwed when it meets a bubble isn't a terribly exciting prospect for a lot of us. Bubbles interdict supers?  this, my friends, is why RAWR has lost two regions within five months
2(!!!) regions in 5(!!!)months 
i guess it was because many players of RAWR left the game because of ....
and regions simply got empty....  |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
21
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Posted - 2011.11.18 13:01:00 -
[163] - Quote
ps: If u aint dutch u dont suppose to talk about cheese.... all u amaricans know from cheese is how the mac donalds cheese is tasting.... (like tire rubbar but without the bitumen aftertaste)
Dutch cheese Best cheese (kaas is baas)
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Myz Toyou
Bite me inc.
Narwhals Ate My Duck
11
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Posted - 2011.11.18 13:08:00 -
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Gorgonzola all the way. |
Mallory knox
FallenAngels S.A.
CorsarioS.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.18 13:15:00 -
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omg this is a big **** .... i pay a lot of billion of isk for this ship and now you fu ck all the ship.....
but dont worry ccp always do the same ....... fu ck fuc k and fu ck all they can and dont ask if this is good or not.
i dont pay more for this sh it |
Danny John-Peter
PCG Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2011.11.18 13:21:00 -
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Mallory knox wrote:omg this is a big **** .... i pay a lot of billion of isk for this ship and now you fu ck all the ship.....
but dont worry ccp always do the same ....... fu ck fuc k and fu ck all they can and dont ask if this is good or not.
i dont pay more for this sh it
Can I haz your stuff? |
Rhinanna
The Warped Corpe
Cascade Probable
70
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Posted - 2011.11.18 13:49:00 -
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Quote:The changes do nothing to address the issue of super-blobbing. By taking away all small drones, CCP has now made solo or small groups of Supercarriers totally non-viable. The only possible use for Supercarriers is now in massive megablobs of other Supers, which only a handful of alliances/coalitions can field.
No, its removed the ability to use them without support, which was the whole point.
You are moaning that you no longer have a solo-pwn mobile. Tough, it was never meant to be a solo pwn mobile, it was always meant to require support, regardless of how many super-caps you had.
Quote:However, CCP has also just nerfed the "end game" of EVE. Oh, and for all of you who claim that EVE is a sandbox with no end game, go take a basic psychology class at your local community college. Pathetic.
Perhaps this is true but from this statement I think starting at infant school would probably be better for you.
So basically cry and moan all you want, Supercaps are still incrediably powerful and useful ships, they just aren't the be-all and end-all of the game anymore, the sub-cap fleets are now just as important, which is exactly how it should be. You may have liked dominating the field from your super but do you really think it was that much fun for everyone else?
tl;dr;
Op cries his overpowered boat won't be a solo wtfpwn mobile anymore, everyone else laughts at him for been a moron.
-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it!
Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-á |
ilmon
Unknown Soldiers
RED.Legion
7
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Posted - 2011.11.18 13:54:00 -
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the changes are just fine with the adjusted drone bay size.
although they seem to fail in communicating between themselves with the later adjustments mentioned by the devs themselves |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
853
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Posted - 2011.11.18 14:32:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101
Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue-¦s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting
This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued
None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2011.11.18 14:36:00 -
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Andski wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101
Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue-¦s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting
This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP.
Well its not isk sink .. but it takes trilions of ISK out of market just as easily. I dont care that much, since i am not an cap pilot and i never wanted to be one. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
853
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Posted - 2011.11.18 14:41:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Andski wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101
Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue-¦s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting
This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP. Well its not isk sink .. but it takes trilions of ISK out of market just as easily. I dont care that much, since i am not an cap pilot and i never wanted to be one.
What? How so?
Aside from BPOs, there are very few ISK sinks involved. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2011.11.18 14:45:00 -
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Andski wrote:ons of ISK out of market just as easily. I dont care that much, since i am not an cap pilot and i never wanted to be one.
What? How so?
Aside from BPOs, there are very few ISK sinks involved.[/quote]
Well people bought SCs for dont know 20 bil ISK
soon to be sold for 500 mil
every ship lost 19,5bil ISK multiply it by number of SCs and there you go 
I exaggerate a bit, but thats what i meant. Not sure how i would call it. Devaluation of SCs price maybe.
Actually you are right and i am not...
since that 20bil bill is still in game |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
21
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Posted - 2011.11.18 14:46:00 -
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Andski wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101
Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue-¦s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting
This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP.
depends how u look at it, while eve sitting atm on a super cap bubble that is about the explode ands a massive devaule of anything around it, it is a isk sink...Buy expense char, officer mod, implant super at top price... nerf happends.... devalluation happends = losing isk to nothing = isk sink (one time or multiple if ship explodes)
Example current u pay:
Erebus 85,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 8b + 10b
tracking & damage implant 5b
slaves set 2,2b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 45b
total: 155,2b
After nerft:
Erebus 75,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 4b + 3b (prices before abusing)
tracking & damage implant 3b
slaves set 1,5b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 35b
total: 121,5b
35 Billion isk dissapears into nothing, you tell me is that a isk sink or not
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
47
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Posted - 2011.11.18 19:57:00 -
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xxxak wrote:. You, and your pathetic little group of rabble will be raped, murdered, and/or evicted, in no particular order. You will live in highsec, where you will mine or run missions.
What are you, 14?
Could we have some adult super-capital pilots arguing constructively in this thread now, please. Kthxbai.
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
47
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Posted - 2011.11.18 20:06:00 -
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Mallory knox wrote:omg this is a big **** .... i pay a lot of billion of isk for this ship and now you fu ck all the ship.....
but dont worry ccp always do the same ....... fu ck fuc k and fu ck all they can and dont ask if this is good or not.
i dont pay more for this sh it
Bye!
(I can haz ur stuffs?)
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Thomas Orca
Intaki Armaments
Important Internet Spaceship League
19
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Posted - 2011.11.18 20:24:00 -
[176] - Quote
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
depends how u look at it, while eve sitting atm on a super cap bubble that is about the explode ands a massive devaule of anything around it, it is a isk sink...Buy expense char, officer mod, implant super at top price... nerf happends.... devalluation happends = losing isk to nothing = isk sink (one time or multiple if ship explodes)
Example current u pay:
Erebus 85,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 8b + 10b
tracking & damage implant 5b
slaves set 2,2b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 45b
total: 155,2b
After nerft:
Erebus 75,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 4b + 3b (prices before abusing)
tracking & damage implant 3b
slaves set 1,5b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 35b
total: 121,5b
35 Billion isk dissapears into nothing, you tell me is that a isk sink or not
All the ISK paid for those things are paid to other players. ISK is still on the market. No ISK disappears. And whenever a Super dies it ***** out a ludicrous amount of ISK due to insurance. So if these changes are successful in making supers less useful/more vulnerable, and more die, it actually becomes an isk faucet.
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Turkatron
0
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Posted - 2011.11.18 20:40:00 -
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habanero jack or gtfo of this cheese thread  |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
186
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Posted - 2011.11.18 20:44:00 -
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xxxak wrote:
TL;DR: My SC is no longer going to be a PWNMobile and I am quite frankly perturbed about it and I am going to put on my big boy panties and rage about it in the forums.
As one who had someone attempt to camp my T1 frigate into a station with a SC, I say, bugger off, chap. (Was that British enough?).
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
336
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:36:00 -
[179] - Quote
Apples.. and oranges.. and stuff.
Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
47
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:48:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:xxxak wrote:
TL;DR: My SC is no longer going to be a PWNMobile and I am quite frankly perturbed about it and I am going to put on my big boy panties and rage about it in the forums.
As one who had someone attempt to camp my T1 frigate into a station with a SC, I say, bugger off, chap. (Was that British enough?).
I think "**** off, mate!" is more properly British  ...Her Majesty's English: I luvs it!
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
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