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CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 4408	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:45:00 - [1] - Quote With the Kronos release being published on June 3rd we are rebalancing a huge amount of ships and modules and introducing new items and ships. Freighters/jump freighters are receiving three low slots, pirate faction ships receive a full rebalancing, mining barge and exhumers are reworked, deep space transporters much improved and and and ... the result is a new exciting ship and module landscape with many great opportunities. Read all about the ship rebalancing in CCP Fozzie's latest dev blog Ship and Module Balancing in Kronos! CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager


CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 10633	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:47:00 - [2] - Quote Another big set of balance changes coming your way on Tuesday! Thanks to everyone who provided feedback on all these changes so far. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

BadAssMcKill ElitistOps 787	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:51:00 - [3] - Quote Vigilant Fittings: 1050 PWG(-150), 360 CPU" The Vigilant cruiser needed the most help and is receiving significantly more powergrid, targeting range and speed Ok Fozzie whatever you say .
Last Wolf Umbra Wing 323	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:52:00 - [4] - Quote Sweet! Thank you guys for always making this game a better place to waste my time! That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 10633	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:01:00 - [5] - Quote BadAssMcKill wrote: "Vigilant Fittings: 1050 PWG(-150), 360 CPU" "The Vigilant cruiser needed the most help and is receiving significantly more powergrid, targeting range and speed" Ok Fozzie whatever you say Yeah my bad, misremembered while I was typing that part. It's corrected in the blog now, should show up correctly after a few minutes. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Zarnak Wulf In Exile. Imperial Outlaws. 1725	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:02:00 - [6] - Quote Will we be getting low slot drone module variants of the mid slot modules - ala TC / TE - in the near future? They were hinted at in the drone changes.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 10633	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:06:00 - [7] - Quote Zarnak Wulf wrote: Will we be getting low slot drone module variants of the mid slot modules - ala TC / TE - in the near future? They were hinted at in the drone changes. Yes indeed! We discussed that in the drone section of this blog instead of the module section, so it would have been easy to miss. Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancers will be released in Kronos and you can try them out on our SISI test server right now! Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Last Wolf Umbra Wing 323	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:18:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Zarnak Wulf wrote: Will we be getting low slot drone module variants of the mid slot modules - ala TC / TE - in the near future? They were hinted at in the drone changes. Yes indeed! We discussed that in the drone section of this blog instead of the module section, so it would have been easy to miss. Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancers will be released in Kronos and you can try them out on our SISI test server right now! How about some low/mid slot modules that affect missile explosion velocity, explosion radius, velocity, and flight time? I would like to one day be able to fit something besides riggors or bay thrusters in my missile ship rig slots and something besides Damage mods and a Damage Control in the lows. Those are really the only options for missile ships and what is fitted to 90% of all PvE AND PvP shield tanked missile ships. That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 532	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:30:00 - [9] - Quote Getting sick of seeing the bharghast anywhere but in my hangar! Man I'm going to have fun this summer :D You can trust me, I have a monocole
Gin Alley 25	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:39:00 - [10] - Quote Are Heavy Missiles ever gonna be revisited since no one uses them anymore and everyone is now using medium rails which can reliably kill out to 200km?


CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 10635	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:01:00 - [11] - Quote Gin Alley wrote: no one uses them anymore This statement is far from the truth and is a poor foundation on which to build a position. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Jeremy Crow Phonix Wings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 1	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:16:00 - [12] - Quote Are the tracking numbers on Fighters correct on the updated spreadsheet? They are almost 3x as much as in the original spreadsheet.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 10638	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:20:00 - [13] - Quote Jeremy Crow wrote: Are the tracking numbers on Fighters correct on the updated spreadsheet? They are almost 3x as much as in the original spreadsheet. Yes they are correct. Effective tracking is calculated from the combination of the trackingSpeed attribute and the optimalSigRadius attribute. We increased the optimalSigRadius (signature resolution) on the fighters from 125 to 400 so we adjusted the tracking accordingly. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1910	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:23:00 - [14] - Quote "When the Venture mining frigate was introduced in late 2014 it quickly became one of the most popular ships in EVE Online history." https://runrunnergirlrun.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/what-year-is-it-robin-williams.jpg :) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 10638	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:25:00 - [15] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: "When the Venture mining frigate was introduced in late 2014 it quickly became one of the most popular ships in EVE Online history." https://runrunnergirlrun.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/what-year-is-it-robin-williams.jpg :) slowly folds bits of aluminum You see, time is a flat circle. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 829	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:29:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Jeremy Crow wrote: Are the tracking numbers on Fighters correct on the updated spreadsheet? They are almost 3x as much as in the original spreadsheet. Yes they are correct. Effective tracking is calculated from the combination of the trackingSpeed attribute and the optimalSigRadius attribute. We increased the optimalSigRadius (signature resolution) on the fighters from 125 to 400 so we adjusted the tracking accordingly. 400 .. seems odd that fighters being cruiser sized uses battleship sig all of a sudden?? Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 5287	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:35:00 - [17] - Quote What do you think about the new POS module Fozzie? The Paradox
Rek Seven Probe Patrol Ixtab. 1555	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:41:00 - [18] - Quote I'm impressed with the amount of work you guys at ccp are putting into Kronos! I look forward to seeing what you do in the next release. However, recently I feel like things some things have been added/changed but they don't feel finished or as good as they could be. For example, the mobile deployables were a great concept IMO but the rules built into them severely limit their uses, making them effectively useless. The first few rounds of ship balancing has done wonder for the game but for the battleships at least, the changes didn't go far enough. The one thing attack battleships have going for them is that they can us MJDs and Target spectrum breakers (another mod that needs "fixing") but in the case of the MJD, battle cruisers are going to be able to use them. Allowing battle cruisers to use an micro jump drive is a good move but iIMO, giving them the same 100km jump range as the battleship version is a mistake. It basically makes it a GTFO or sniper tool. If things get iterated on quickly that's fine but if not and they need it, it could lead to the old situation were parts of the game felt neglected (see bounty system, war decs, low sec, etc.)... Maybe new items and features should be put on the server far sooner so that they are practically perfect by the time they go live. I wish you the best of luck in whatever you guys to do in the future, i just hope that all your hard work is worth it in the end and Eve becomes the game it has the potential to be. Ps. i'm really looking forward to see the new industry changes! +1
Lykouleon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1361	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:53:00 - [19] - Quote Quote: The Rise of Cheesy Devname Puns: Pirate Faction Ships Haha...rise...CCP Rise...that was punny. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Valterra Craven 253	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:56:00 - [20] - Quote Rek Seven wrote: I'm impressed with the amount of work you guys at ccp are putting into Kronos! I look forward to seeing what you do in the next expansion. You will be waiting a long time for the next expansion since this is the last one they do. Things are changing after this expansion to have rolling "releases" every 6 weeks, so they are likely going to be much smaller in scale and scope compared to this one. Crius might be the exception given they are delaying part of what was slated for this expansion to the next release.

Rek Seven Probe Patrol Ixtab. 1555	Posted - 2014.05.30 18:01:00 - [21] - Quote Valterra Craven wrote: You will be waiting a long time for the next expansion since this is the last one they do. Things are changing after this expansion to have rolling "releases" every 6 weeks, so they are likely going to be much smaller in scale and scope compared to this one. Crius might be the exception given they are delaying part of what was slated for this expansion to the next release. "Expansion" or "release", they will still work to a theme that results specific things being added every year. +1
Arronicus X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 1023	Posted - 2014.05.30 18:08:00 - [22] - Quote Harvey James wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Jeremy Crow wrote: Are the tracking numbers on Fighters correct on the updated spreadsheet? They are almost 3x as much as in the original spreadsheet. Yes they are correct. Effective tracking is calculated from the combination of the trackingSpeed attribute and the optimalSigRadius attribute. We increased the optimalSigRadius (signature resolution) on the fighters from 125 to 400 so we adjusted the tracking accordingly. 400 .. seems odd that fighters being cruiser sized uses battleship sig all of a sudden?? They are essentially a capital class weapon however. With the new tracking and speed and increased damage, this should help balance against them being small ship **** machines.
Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 829	Posted - 2014.05.30 18:30:00 - [23] - Quote the fighter stats don't match the other sets of drones at all.. for instance the caldari one has the worst tracking Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 829	Posted - 2014.05.30 18:39:00 - [24] - Quote Fozzi any thoughts on reducing heavy drones sig res from 400 to maybe more battlecruiser size say 250? Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 2365	Posted - 2014.05.30 18:39:00 - [25] - Quote How does the EHP of Kronos drones compare to there EHP now? I do see a raw HP nerf on some drones. -á --á
Vincent Mayer BOWA Heavy Industries 2	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:15:00 - [26] - Quote While I love pretty much all of the new changes, I just don't know about the Guristas changes, was really hoping to start using the Gila instead of the Ishtar with the new Moa hull... but with such a small drone bay it is just not going to work at all. ohh well, at least it will look pretty in my hanger now.
Freelancer117 So you want to be a Hero 213	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:20:00 - [27] - Quote Quote: the ascendancy of pirates and mercenaries Could you please ask CCP SoniClover to keep an eye on future iteration of the Mercenary Marketplace, or use both eyes source: http://www.eveonline.com/inferno/mercenary-marketplace/ Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans. http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
Karash Amerius Sutoka 152	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:47:00 - [28] - Quote Besides cost...is there any reason to operate a Venture over the T2 equivalent? T2 is just supposed to be more specialized in a certain area, but it seems like in this change they are tops on everything. Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka
Last Wolf Umbra Wing 323	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:59:00 - [29] - Quote Karash Amerius wrote: Besides cost...is there any reason to operate a Venture over the T2 equivalent? T2 is just supposed to be more specialized in a certain area, but it seems like in this change they are tops on everything. Isn't that true of all T2 ships? Except for cost, why would you fly a Covetor over a Hulk? Or a Caracal over a Cerberus? or a Vexor Over an Ishtar...etc..etc... That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Karash Amerius Sutoka 152	Posted - 2014.05.30 21:08:00 - [30] - Quote Last Wolf wrote: Karash Amerius wrote: Besides cost...is there any reason to operate a Venture over the T2 equivalent? T2 is just supposed to be more specialized in a certain area, but it seems like in this change they are tops on everything. Isn't that true of all T2 ships? Except for cost, why would you fly a Covetor over a Hulk? Or a Caracal over a Cerberus? or a Vexor Over an Ishtar...etc..etc... Eve is about having you to make choices...not having the choice made for you. While there are other examples of this, as you mentioned above, that does not change the spirit of what CCP is trying to accomplish. I would be severely surprised if Fozzie came in here to correct this opinion of mine...every ship in eve needs a valid purpose, or 'choice', that a player would use to his advantage. Regardless of T1, T2, T3, or Faction. Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka



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