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dnt understand why ppl make these threads

they ask for feedback when they post the sticky genius.

dnt understand why ppl make these threads

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Yes those stickies and dev blogs that come up when they are ready to announce whats next. So what does their absence suggest? Yes. That they are not ready to announce just yet. [clap]

Feel free to speculate amongst urselves, i know its fun. But dont expect CCP to Chime in. They may not have yet decided whats going to make the Crius deadline. There is already a logi thread up if ppl want to make suggestions there. There are several T3 threads up. Theres a Recon thread up. There are Capital threads up. So what is this thread if not redundant or a needy ADHD 'are we there yet' thread?

So back to my original point. I dnt know why ppl make these threads asking CCP to reveal things ahead of time.

If CCP want feedback on what they do, we need time to give that feedback and feedback to possible changes they make based on our feedback. If nothing is revealed until patchnotes there is no time to give feedback, and its only 1month until the patch goes live.

Tell me what good comes from this thread.

We the players want to know whats comming next, how hard is that to understand?

If you didnt care you would not be in this forum at all, and if you wanted this thread to die you would just not reply (to not bump it back up for even mroe replies)

CCP already know what they intend to have in bouth the next patch and the one after, reality is that some of those things will get pushed back for whatever reason but dont tell me they have no plan for what they want in each release.

Ship rebalance have been done with several ship lines each release so far, and its therefor natural to assume 1 or 2 shiplines will be rebalanced in the upcomming patch. Just for referance, stickies for Kronos was up over 2 months before patch day, and we are not 1/3 into this patch cycle with nothing but industry changes (delayed from Kronos).

We want to know whats comming, and we want as much time as possible for feedback in case we are not happy with the 1st round of changes.

I ask again,
What makes u think the changes are even on paper yet? What makes u think a sticky wont go up as soon as those changes are ready for feedback? What makes u think CCP are withholding this information from u? are u ever going to answer these questions?

So now its less about how the ships are getting rebalanced and more about what ships are getting rebalanced. And not because u need to know but because u want to know.

Way to back track.

Truth is, we dnt know how rebalances are worked on behind the scenes. They may be working on any number of rebalances simultaneously, any of which may or may not be any where near completion. They may not have even decided what will come next, they may not have decided if anything will make Crius or not. They will let us know when they think we need to know.

I dont understand what u think u'll accomplish by demanding they release the information now and id be genuinely surprised if they use this thread to reveal the next rebalances.

If CCP want feedback on what they do, we need time to give that feedback and feedback to possible changes they make based on our feedback. If nothing is revealed until patchnotes there is no time to give feedback, and its only 1month until the patch goes live. All we know so far is that industry was pushed back to the next release (the upcomming one) but we have no idea what else they are looking at or even if industry is actualy comming this time.

Devs should already know what ships they hope to balance inthe next patch, even if the changes are not set in stone.

Waiting to long means that we either dont have any say in changes, or get to choose from 2 diffrent outcomes with the 2nd revealed if we dissagree to strongly with the first. If it takes this long to come up with balancing changes, the last 2-3 weeks should be dedicated to make last changes based on input (input that also should take more than a day to gather, like 1-2 weeks)

This simple timetable indicate that 3-5weeks before patch, we should see some indication about WHAT they plan to balance and possibly what direction they want to take those ships/modules

This is clearly talking about feedback on how ships are changed. Not just what ships are changed. Same goes with Nevyn's posts. Nevyn even makes a post that basically says 'If they arent releasing ships in Crius, they should tell us!'

But now u've admitted u dnt need to know so u acknowledge this is pretty much just a thread poking CCP because ur impatient.

All im saying is:
U'll find out when u find out.

Except you obviously didn't bother reading my posts properly.
Where I pointed out that the initial feedback for the post Crius release is also due to being started to be collected now. Since to get decent testing time on Sisi, the next release needs to go onto Sisi soon after Crius goes live, meaning the first round of feedback needs doing before Crius goes live.

So not having any kind of feedback for post Crius threads makes it look as if players will not have as much opportunity to give feedback on their noew development schedule. Which is a serious point of concern.

Of course, since you are simply parroting the same pointless thing again and again, you also have no interest in bothering to address serious issues such as player consultation, but are simply being a troll to the rest of us with real concerns in order to feel superior.

You do know that Crius isn't going to be a major release patch, right? We're looking at more of a "well ****, this isn't going to be ready in time for Kronos, but we don't want to make people wait until the winter patch, so we're delaying it for a month and a half and calling it Crius." patch.

So not having any kind of feedback for post Crius threads makes it look as if players will not have as much opportunity to give feedback on their noew development schedule. Which is a serious point of concern.