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Seraph Essael Devils Diciples League of Infamy 715	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:24:00 - [31] - Quote Erica Dusette wrote: Saraki Ishikela wrote: ALSO What are other reasons that YOU may not have gone to Null Sec etc. Local chat, stations and stargates. ^ I do like wormholes. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1927	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:26:00 - [32] - Quote The fear the CCP will admit their SOV failure and delete it all, along with everyone in it. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Doreen Kaundur 634	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:29:00 - [33] - Quote Im a solo player and null is not friendly to solo players. Your choice of ships is limited because a cloak is a necessity and WTZ doesnt help because of warp bubbles. I really want to run missions in null, but I cant see doing it without being continually podded. I stay mostly in low sec. 1. Minor navigation color change. 2. Show bookmarks in the overview.
Remy Nolen Sama Guild 11	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:38:00 - [34] - Quote easy when talking about sov space: 1) Lack of actual PVE; No mission hubs Boring ratting Sporadic exploration 2) Very few individual activities that can't be found elsewhere 3) Politics 4) The real money, Moon goo, is usually unavailable to the grunts. Especially the profitable kind. 5) Terrible/Capital intensive logistics. 6) It's boring as **** 85% of the time 7) Way too busy the other 15% 8) Better/Easier isk making opportunities everywhere else. When you realize you spend most of your active time outside your space then actually living in it; what's the point of the fracking
Felicity Love Ka'ra Shabuir Inc. 1960	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:41:00 - [35] - Quote Null can't and doesn't offer me anything I can't elsewhere... aka, the freedom to come, go and do as I please. I mine, mission, hunt, dock, go AFK, build stuff, trade... WHERE and WHEN I want. Null... doesn't even come close. Sooner or later I have to have somebody else's "permission" or "approval", tacit or otherwise, to so much as undock, fart, change my knickers or just kick back AFK, go cloaky and knock back the cold ones. No phukkin' thanks. Embrace "Firefly / Serenity" and you'll know what I mean. "Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe, to staff, how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
Remiel Pollard The Vigilance Institute 3632	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:43:00 - [36] - Quote I did go to nul. It was boring as hell. So I went back to high & low. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5385	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:45:00 - [37] - Quote The nullsec RMT cartels. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com
Saraki Ishikela Deep Space Adventure Time 35	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:46:00 - [38] - Quote Sounds like i've already made the right choice to live in low sec haha One newbies quest to ExploreEVE: Youtube:www.youtube.com/exploreeve- Blogspot:http://exploreeve.blogspot.com Twitter:www.twitter.com/exploreeve - Facebook:www.facebook.com/exploreeve
Scion Lex Tungsten Carbonide Asset Management 150	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:57:00 - [39] - Quote My lack of a jf, excessive rental fees for what I want to do and the inherent instability......and the lack of a market in many cases. Null intrigues the hell out of me, but its not profitable from my position given the entry barrier+rent. Leaving my corp isn't an option. I'll have to wait until feel like tossing 2b out of a window every month.
Tauranon Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 1057	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:27:00 - [40] - Quote Scion Lex wrote: My lack of a jf, excessive rental fees for what I want to do and the inherent instability......and the lack of a market in many cases. Null intrigues the hell out of me, but its not profitable from my position given the entry barrier+rent. Leaving my corp isn't an option. I'll have to wait until feel like tossing 2b out of a window every month. My rent is 1.5B, a moon covers 300m of it, PI can cover 300m more for me a month with just 1 character (if I could be bothered), there is at least 2.5b in miniprof and ded signatures spawn up in a month, all of those tasks earn more than ratting in a subcap per hour, given that I don't have to search systems for them, I just do them when they spawn up in mine, and rat in the time that other explorers would be moving around searching for signatures so think of the ratting component as probing at 75m/hr (and it does actually perform the probing task when you trigger an escalation). One of the CFC jumpfreighter services serves Vale, and they drop off/pick up next door to me, and I've rented this system for 8 months straight now, which is about as stable as you could hope for. ie I've always found the economics of reserving a null system for a single pilot via renting to work out pretty good.
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 75	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:33:00 - [41] - Quote Arec Bardwin wrote: I have a strong dislike for being told what to do by snotty nerds. I prefer to ninja exploration content in null, I see no reason to join any 'serious business' null organizations. This x 1000
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 214	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:52:00 - [42] - Quote Harrison Tato wrote: Arec Bardwin wrote: I have a strong dislike for being told what to do by snotty nerds. I prefer to ninja exploration content in null, I see no reason to join any 'serious business' null organizations. This x 1000 I agree, that sounds awful. When I hear about swarms of Ishkur so thick they blot out sun... I'll take a day trip with an empty clone. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 5394	Posted - 2014.06.27 02:12:00 - [43] - Quote I'm tired of being told what to do by people who don't do what they say they'll do. Then there's being used as filler material for people whose "diplomates have stuffed up standings again sorry." Then there's being kicked from corps because you didn't log in for a week while you were away on holidays. I'm looking for a little more political stability than null sec provides, and a little less of the *** and ** spam in corp, fleet and local. I also prefer flying with people who don't start acting like retards when someone on voice comms sounds female. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Raphael Ordo Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 93	Posted - 2014.06.27 02:16:00 - [44] - Quote Factional Warfare. Fighting for God and Empire
Garresh Team Chicken and Waffles 305	Posted - 2014.06.27 02:21:00 - [45] - Quote Logistics, politics, nullbears. I base out of highsec, but I have other sub-bases with supplies scattered throughout low. I go to Null all the time, but mostly to make isk and gank any bears I see out there. When I want to fight, I go to Low. But really, most of my runs through Null I see very few other people. It's boring. This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Garresh Team Chicken and Waffles 305	Posted - 2014.06.27 02:25:00 - [46] - Quote Cazador 64 wrote: I think everyone should start in Hi sec but in time Move to Null or WH space. I used to be that guy that never went to low sec now you are lucky to catch me in hi sec once every 3 months. I do not have problems replacing ships or finding the things I need. If there is something I can not find like a skill book take the 20 minutes and take a ceptor to jita I agree, but Low has the benefit of not requiring a great deal of attention. In Null there's CTAs, doctrines, and politics which is a time waster. In W-space there's logitistics and the time investment of mandatory scans and sweeps, plus checking out your neighbors every day. I started in high, then moved to a solo w-space investment 6 months into Eve, and then "retired" after 18 months out there. I wander through low and null most of the time now, but keep my standings high enough to return to Highsec for supplies as needed. You make a very good point, but with IRL being the beast that it is, I just honestly can't commit that much time to mandatory operations to keep a station afloat these days, or I'd be out in w-space again. This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Antihrist Pripravnik T-AFK and counting 406	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:15:00 - [47] - Quote Blue doughnut is what's stopping me. I've tried to re-join my old friends in null after a break, but it was all damn blue. 20 jumps minimum to any meaningful action. Just to make things clear, my start in null was with a small alliance that kept it's own system. Yes, one system and we were not renters (we were kind of a meatshield ). Then I've joined Morsus Mihi during the 2010. siege of Tribute. Now THAT was fun. Today, it's all different. They try to compensate lack of action with "deployments" but that's the worse part of it all. Yeah... having to pack just a couple of your ships and go half way across the map in a region that doesn't have any of the items or ships you need and often without a sight of a market is the very definition of fun The "best" part of the deployment is that: a) you usually don't have much choice of ships and gameplay; b) since there's usually an abundance of doctrine ships and fits (read: F1 gear useless in any form of PvP except fleets), you are limited to play when official FCs are organizing action. More often than not that ends up with waiting for an hour on a POS with a good possibility that for some reason the fleet would be disbanded even before it moves. I simply don't have any more time for that. Then I've figured, if I wanted to play in an unknown region with no market and where I have to actually bring stuff that I need myself, I should do it in W-Space. At least I'll have the stuff I need where I need it. So, I went in W-Space and wasn't disappointed. W-Space is more dynamic. Every wormhole that you open or find might contain some action, whether you do it with a gang or solo. And you are always just a couple of jumps away from your own set of ships that are actually useful in various situations. 1 bil-30 days-5% loan available - collateral required: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352279
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 3175	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:41:00 - [48] - Quote Nolak Ataru wrote: Everyone and their mother gatecamping the highsec to low/null gates. If there was a way to bridge me from highsec into the next lowsec system in a random location in the system, I'd do it without hesitating. There is, it's called having your friends in null scan down a wormhole chain. If you don't have 'friends' you trust with that task, there's always alts. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos
Bruce Kemp Suddenly taken over 109	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:51:00 - [49] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: 1) The inability to just kick back and play casually, without having to be on Full Alert every second, watching local and the intel channel for trouble. 2) Having to pay rent 3) CTAs 4) Politics Yep, this. -áIf people played EVE as much as they posted rubbish on these forums, they might enjoy the game.
Magnus Orly Crucial Contribution 21	Posted - 2014.06.27 04:11:00 - [50] - Quote Well....having some kind of awareness and watching local is probably part of playing anywhere...thoose pesky gankers around... ...but yeah...the rest of it probably applies.... Our corporation is recruiting. It is a laid back corp of Swedes...and others. We currently live in Caldari high-sec-space and mainly do mining and missions together.
Kijo Rikki Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables 864	Posted - 2014.06.27 04:21:00 - [51] - Quote For the longest time it was the gate camp on the keberz gate into HED-GP but I'm past that now. You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam.-á
Arkady Romanov GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 219	Posted - 2014.06.27 04:23:00 - [52] - Quote Apparently I've been living in a bubble. I didn't realise there were so many bad null corps out there.
Christine Peeveepeeski The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos 559	Posted - 2014.06.27 04:37:00 - [53] - Quote No need to move there. More small gang/solo pvp in fw. Isk is easier to generate for someone like me without needing to touch nullsec. Friends are all of the same opinion. Oh and yes I have tried null, as have my friends. The only reason i can think that you want to be out there is that you have mates out there and are part of a social circle that works because frankly I can't think of another reason. Super kills maybe? If that's your thing?
Valleria Darkmoon Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel 266	Posted - 2014.06.27 05:20:00 - [54] - Quote Primarily I want no part of a really big null sec alliance, I couldn't care less who has sov and would not be willing to watch the slide show to defend it. That, in turn means I will not be using a large alliance's logistical chain to move things in for me. So I won't be living in null now or in the foreseeable future. Living near high sec but in low is barely even inconvenient at the worst of times and it's fairly easy to move assets in an out. There is no real reason I won't go to null sec and do go there on occasion, but as I rarely use bubbles or bombs even when I do go to null, so there isn't that much of a draw for me. Particularly with wormholes direct low -> null being a lot more common there is more reason for me to go to null if a WH is found but much of the time these lead to completely empty sections of deep null sec which makes for decent ISK but poor PvP. In essence the WH spawns mean that most days I already have some PvP and most decent PvE content from null sec when I want it without any of the strings attached to living there. Granted my use of null sec for any purpose is considerably more subject to chance, but it's hardly guaranteed to go well because you live there. As for null being an "endgame", I've never bought into that. I find the concept of an endgame at all to be somewhat anathema to what EVE is. There is no end. Null serves its purpose for those who are interested, I do not fall into that category so I'm not bothered with it. W-space, Low and High all have their uses as well and low falls closest to what I'm after which is smallish scale PvP. When I was new to this game, I thought going to null really said something about you as a player, but it doesn't. Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist over simplification. There are good players everywhere, there are bad players everywhere. There are kamikaze and extremely risk adverse players everywhere. What space you choose to live in is no comment on who you are as a pilot. Careful when you generalize or assign labels. -áReality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.
Schmata Bastanold Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 1968	Posted - 2014.06.27 05:31:00 - [55] - Quote I don't especially like to share my shopping list at every frakking occasion I might like to fit something differently than I planned before. And I am impulse shopper so no I don't plan things in every frakking detail. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold
Lugia3 Intentionally Dense Easily Excited 992	Posted - 2014.06.27 06:08:00 - [56] - Quote There are no random mining barges, missioning battleships, or probing T3's in nullsec. And bubbles. So. Many. Bubbles. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5852	Posted - 2014.06.27 06:14:00 - [57] - Quote Cant put your stuff anywhere and get to it easy WHs are far better storage options "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Varathius Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 61	Posted - 2014.06.27 06:21:00 - [58] - Quote I guess some people just never learn that there are jump clones in the game.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5852	Posted - 2014.06.27 06:33:00 - [59] - Quote Varathius wrote: I guess some people just never learn that there are jump clones in the game. Not relevant to the majority of reasons given, but whatever you say jack, you're the master race. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Scout Vyvorant University of Caille Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.06.27 06:42:00 - [60] - Quote Null sec in my opinion require a lot of gaming time, as in being online and do stuff, to be made worth. Also logistic are an issue, as at the end of the day you always try to haul back to highsec, you lack the indipendence to set your own goal and paces and you might be forced into sides of the gameplay you might not be in the mood at the moment, or simply that cannot attend at that particular moment. In my case, i've dire work hours, and there are many of my eveninings where I'm too tired to do most of the stuffs you might end up doing in null. Simply put, high sec require less tending in my eyes and best fit to my casual gaming times. I'm not a risk adversed carebear, I do my low sec exploratikn roams, or ninja mining in Wh space, or even some small sized pvp FW, just being in high sec allow me to pick better the moment when I'm up for it, simply in a dimension of free time and mood. Before people complain, would you go play soccer with friends if you are dead tired and you have wake up early next morning? Some might, some other wont.

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