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Felicity Love Ka'ra Shabuir Inc. 1968	Posted - 2014.06.27 10:37:00 - [91] - Quote I Love Boobies wrote: Having someone screaming at everyone at the top of his pitchy, nasally voice on comms during CTAs is quite unappealing.... Psssst.... Armor HACS, ARRRRRRRRRMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRR HAAAAAAAACCCCCCCS.... need more PSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ! ! ! "Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe, to staff, how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
Schmata Bastanold Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 1978	Posted - 2014.06.27 10:46:00 - [92] - Quote I Love Boobies wrote: I play the game for fun and relaxation, not to be told by some asswipe what to do 24/7. If I wanted that, I'd get married. So it seems last Sunday was second anniversary of my null residence :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold
Bael Malefic Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 101	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:05:00 - [93] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: How 0.0 really is That is definitely what life in Providence as a Provibloc alliance member was like when I was there :-)
Snagletooth Johnson Snagle Material Services CAStabouts 159	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:18:00 - [94] - Quote Time. I only get 3-4 hours a day to play, with DT in the middle of it. If have to spend 2 hours + playing hide and seek then I'd get nothing done ever.
Grimpak Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance. 1608	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:21:00 - [95] - Quote been there, done that, bought the T-shirt, hated the politics asshattery. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Mithandra Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep 57	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:24:00 - [96] - Quote Tippia wrote: I just can't be arsed. This pretty much Why bother with 0.0 when wormholes give a target rich, and profitable environment, with the ability to wander in 0.0 , low, or highsec depending on a roll of the WH dice. Small gang warfare (as well as the larger blobby type) is alive and well and going on beyond the event horizon
Rek Seven Probe Patrol Ixtab. 1588	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:27:00 - [97] - Quote I don't like the way local chat works. If it wasn't for WH space i would have quit a long time ago. +1
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5862	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:29:00 - [98] - Quote Rek Seven wrote: I don't like the way local chat works. If it wasn't for WH space i would have quit a long time ago. Dont let that stop you "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Mithandra Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep 58	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:38:00 - [99] - Quote Rek Seven wrote: I don't like the way local chat works. If it wasn't for WH space i would have quit a long time ago. I love the way local works in 0.0. low and Hi. Gives me fair warning that the depredation of the locality has been noted by the inmates and its time to disappear down the rabbit hole again
Infrequent Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck 21	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:43:00 - [100] - Quote Bael Malefic wrote: Seven Koskanaiken wrote: How 0.0 really is That is definitely what life in Providence as a Provibloc alliance member was like when I was there :-) As a fellow ex-provi member, there's no better video which represents day to day pvp down there.
Bael Malefic Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 101	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:51:00 - [101] - Quote Infrequent wrote: As a fellow ex-provi member, there's no better video which represents day to day pvp down there. I wanted some sort of submarine diving klaxon for those intel channels. Loved to watch shiny PVE ships panic-docking four jumps away from a reported roaming frigate gang.
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting 1330	Posted - 2014.06.27 12:50:00 - [102] - Quote Aralyn Cormallen wrote: Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Things like Aralyn Cormallen's blatant and annoying propaganda are keeping me from nullsec. See, problems like this are easily fixed - there are plenty of organisations you can join if you want to shoot me! Hell, as a WIdot pubbie, you can join our side and make disparaging comments my way freely all day long, and fit right in. I have an even easier fix: stop trying, I'm not interested. I'm not being sarcastic, the way nullsec apologists recruit people really reminds me of Jehova's Witnesses. Just look at your own reply: implying there's a problem that needs fixing. I'm sure there are enough organizations that would allow me to shoot you, but what makes you think I require anyones approval? Nullsec is completely overorganized. Up to a point where people will tell you where and where not to rat. Don't even get started on concepts such as OTEC and B0TLRD... Proxy wars are as exiting as watching paint dry. Some entities even have the gall to ask rediculous amount of commitment to their causes, usually lining the pockets of the already-rich, and thus offering nothing more then a system of restrictions in exchange for (percieved) safety, SRP and docking rights. In short, I'm not on the payroll with any of these big alliances so I have 0 reason to care who owns sov. I don't want to fit into this idiotic carebear system so I'll have my fun in lowsec and occasionally wspace. "I miss the days when anything on the overview was fair game. All these rules to keep the status quo and restrict alliances to only be able to swing pillows at each other is a cancer in this game." - Marlona Sky @Ramona McCandless: I can't deny I tried giving my avatar picture a hard light contrast, so I can see how you make that connection.
Vol Arm'OOO Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2014.06.27 13:05:00 - [103] - Quote The short answer as to why not move to null is lowsec is better. I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Matilda Cecilia Fock Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 181	Posted - 2014.06.27 13:10:00 - [104] - Quote Why I don't move to nullsec? Main reason is that in a very broad sense, I don't pay to be told how to play. If I ever felt like not being a hiseccer, I'd rather move to a wormhole than to nullsec (and actually I've been to several wormholes, but never ever went to nullsec). Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or ~~Xhagen~~ leaves.
Pine Marten Viziam Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2014.06.27 13:12:00 - [105] - Quote Don't want to pay rent.
Aralyn Cormallen Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 468	Posted - 2014.06.27 13:28:00 - [106] - Quote Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Aralyn Cormallen wrote: Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Things like Aralyn Cormallen's blatant and annoying propaganda are keeping me from nullsec. See, problems like this are easily fixed - there are plenty of organisations you can join if you want to shoot me! Hell, as a WIdot pubbie, you can join our side and make disparaging comments my way freely all day long, and fit right in. I have an even easier fix: stop trying, I'm not interested. I'm not being sarcastic, the way nullsec apologists recruit people really reminds me of Jehova's Witnesses. Just look at your own reply: implying there's a problem that needs fixing. I'm sure there are enough organizations that would allow me to shoot you, but what makes you think I require anyones approval? Or, perhaps, you could consider I was just having a light-hearted joke. You know, rather than taking your fairly snotty and self-righteous call-out personally
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 1408	Posted - 2014.06.27 14:28:00 - [107] - Quote Saraki Ishikela wrote: So I was talking with a few friends today that play the game. We're all in different corps and have different play styles. One is a High Sec Carebear, I prefer low sec exploration etc. I'm certainly not risk averse and my friend asked me why I've never ventured into null sec. And to me it's the logistics. I'm terrified of the process of buying ships, modules, skill books easily and quickly. I certainly don't mind losing ships but I want to know I can replace them easily and keep playing. To me having to wait a few days to buy a new ship or resupply seems really unappealing depending on your alliances logistics infrastructure. Or having to pay Black Frog 100m+ to jump supplies to you, and what if they can't dock at your station. It all seems like a nightmare and is very prohibitive to game play. For what is supposed to be the aspiration for most players to get to, it seems very counter intuitive to the newer player. I don't have market alts, or multiple accounts or a logistics alt etc. I was just wondering how unfounded is my concern? ALSO What are other reasons that YOU may not have gone to Null Sec etc. Unconsistent game time ( can not play for weeks due to work) made me leave 0.0 back when 0.0 was interestign and system coudl be lost of taken within 24h and there were several groups fighting. Now.. with the current mechanics and pathetic situation of 2 super blocks .. I cannot see a reason to live in 0.0. 0.0 became just a place to visit and hunt a deer, take a picture with the carcass and go back home after that. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!"
Elmonky Titans of The Short Bus Universal Consortium 68	Posted - 2014.06.27 14:38:00 - [108] - Quote Been in Null - We spent a long time to move there. Spent two months pretending that docking up every time someone hit local so as not to upset the landlords by shooting someone who was not blue or red but was friendly to someone somewhere, was fun. Every neutral had to be researched thoroughly before anyone could even move, then we weren't allowed to speak in local and after recieving nearly 5 billion in rent the landlord gave us 24 hours to relocate where they blapped our JF pilot after 6 hours. Null can GTFO. Long live Wormhole space, where common sense is required and the potential for isk making is northwards of INSANE
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5870	Posted - 2014.06.27 14:41:00 - [109] - Quote Inxentas Ultramar wrote: @Ramona McCandless: I can't deny I tried giving my avatar picture a hard light contrast, so I can see how you make that connection. I think it looks well, nice and unique "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Malcolm Shinhwa Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 2590	Posted - 2014.06.27 14:56:00 - [110] - Quote As a New Order supporter and ganker it is well known that we are too scared to live in nullsec. So I would never live there. I also am afraid of wh space. Good ole safe Hisec is the place for me! "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5870	Posted - 2014.06.27 14:58:00 - [111] - Quote Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: As a New Order supporter and ganker it is well known that we are too scared to live in nullsec. So I would never live there. I also am afraid of wh space. Good ole safe Hisec is the place for me! I can confirm with 100% clarity Malcolm has never been in a Wormhole system and has certainly not blown up mining barges in there. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
BoBoZoBo Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team 431	Posted - 2014.06.27 15:11:00 - [112] - Quote The CFC... oh wait... Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
Nakami Saans Perkone Caldari State 102	Posted - 2014.06.27 15:18:00 - [113] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: 1) The inability to just kick back and play casually, without having to be on Full Alert every second, watching local and the intel channel for trouble. 2) Having to pay rent 3) CTAs 4) Politics Tried it and this. Rainbow Worrior of EVE...well...maybe worrior is too strong a word.-á I like to site see ^.^ Would like to make connections with other LGBT players, possibly a corp Please help me with my Philosophy Final!
Yokai Mitsuhide Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 5197	Posted - 2014.06.27 15:29:00 - [114] - Quote Last time/first time I went to null with a corp/alliance...they told me I wasn't allowed to talk to people in local. Ever. So I thought that was stupid and left. I guess the only thing keeping me from going there is finding the right group to join.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6194	Posted - 2014.06.27 15:32:00 - [115] - Quote BoBoZoBo wrote: The CFC... oh wait... Very scary entity, that. I hear they have an excellent rental program though. I can hook ya up :v: ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears. Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting 1331	Posted - 2014.06.27 15:38:00 - [116] - Quote Aralyn Cormallen wrote: Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Aralyn Cormallen wrote: Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Things like Aralyn Cormallen's blatant and annoying propaganda are keeping me from nullsec. See, problems like this are easily fixed - there are plenty of organisations you can join if you want to shoot me! Hell, as a WIdot pubbie, you can join our side and make disparaging comments my way freely all day long, and fit right in. I have an even easier fix: stop trying, I'm not interested. I'm not being sarcastic, the way nullsec apologists recruit people really reminds me of Jehova's Witnesses. Just look at your own reply: implying there's a problem that needs fixing. I'm sure there are enough organizations that would allow me to shoot you, but what makes you think I require anyones approval? Or, perhaps, you could consider I was just having a light-hearted joke. You know, rather than taking your fairly snotty and self-righteous call-out personally This personality was bred, it's not inherent to my IRL personality. You are damn right it's snotty, if not outright elitist. That's exactly the point. Nullsec entities have provided enough fuel to actually foster these attitudes, up to a point where your opinion on our narcissistic self-importance is no longer relevant because you are part of the problem. Please, don't be mad because we require other people to realize nullsec warfare is fake and staged, and your Dear Leaders true motivations are to grow rich and fat upon moongoo while keeping the bourgeoisie happy with the pretext of pretend-war. You said that if you don't like the way nullsec currently is, try to help change it! The Skyllian Blitz will not happen without a change of mentality. So don't be surprised when others see OTEC and B0TLRD, and decide to do some social engineering of their own. With null entities sucking on the teats of their ISK pooping renters, you'd expect people to form up and punish this complacancy. Why are you even remotely surprised this mentality pops up in a topic about what keeps people from moving to nullsec? @Ramona McCandless: thanks! I spent quite some time on this portrait, glad you like it! I don't need anyone else's approval, you know you are a bit special to me.
Toshiro Hasegawa Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 29	Posted - 2014.06.27 15:56:00 - [117] - Quote Having spent time of and on in nullsec since release .. before POS and station seeding .. before jump drives, before alliances, before Sov .. and then most recently most of last summer and fall .. i can safely say that i love it and i hate it. Its some of the most fun i have had in game .. and also some of the most annoying times. I know i will go back out again .. for at the moment i am going to enjoy other elements of the game. I dont think one is better than the other .. there are so many facets to, and ways of playing, the game .. But right now .. i need some time when i dont have to worry about moving again, buying ships, worrying about politics and drama, worrying about restrictions to ships fittings, where i can and cant not pve .. and pvp where i am at now .. doesnt take hours between form up, flying around, fighting, and getting home .. i have a kid and wife and life and i might only have 1hr a night .. if that some nights .. but there is no way in hell I am not going back .. already starting to feel the bug .. and i dont think i can explain what attracts me .. but in some ways because its the hardest .. most challenging part of the game .. due to all the logistics and drama and politics and cloaky campers and and and .. being out there .. doing my thing .. helping my corp and my alliance is also the most rewarding. tldr Nullsec is hard - so when i am weak i head back to emp for a more simpler fun. it is a game after all.
Heinrich Erquilenne Foundation Cutting-Edge 2	Posted - 2014.06.27 16:53:00 - [118] - Quote - my character is new. I don't have enough skill points to move to nullsec without losing 100% of the 1 vs 1 pvp matches. Needs two more years of training before I can see a change. yawns - I won't be able to be independent before a few months. I can't even kill a battlecruiser and its escorts rats in lowsec.... If I can't get out and do my stuff because mom & dad aren't here what's the point? I like group stuff but I also like being able to do what I want, ALONE. And if possible more or less quietly. - Player owned defensive structures are weak and pathetic. I know it's there to force player interaction but it's more or less a 24/7 job to live in nullsec. And I already have a job.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Unleashed Pestilence 764	Posted - 2014.06.27 17:15:00 - [119] - Quote Dhaq wrote: Frank Truck wrote: Naraish Adarn wrote: wormhole space i find it infinitely more entertaining than null-sec. Without local, no, that cannot be. This thread is now a remove local thread. Wait, wouldn't that be a nerf AFK cloaking thread? If you can't see them in local you dont have to worry about them. We already have an AFK counter to removing local. Create a safe spot, fly a rookie ship to it, eject and leave system. Best of all, No cloak needed! You can also stay in system next to it with a cloaky blaster proteus and pop anything that comes to remove the rookie ship from scan. Heinrich Erquilenne wrote: - my character is new. I don't have enough skill points to move to nullsec without losing 100% of the 1 vs 1 pvp matches. Needs two more years of training before I can see a change. yawns Uh, no. You can be winning 1v1's within a month of starting, and pvp matches with small gangs earlier. Try flying with people that know what they're doing. As for the thread topic, I'll probably try sov null eventually, but mandatory fleet ops and I don't mix. I've been out to sov null once for exploration before getting my cheetah popped by getting distracted on a gate and forgetting to cloak up XD. Good thing that didn't happen in high sec, my permit would have been revoked. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á
Adrellisartar Novalrus Reappers-Choice ISU-DELTA Corporation 0	Posted - 2014.06.27 17:20:00 - [120] - Quote I have neither the expendable ships, nor the secured income to go along with it, and I lack the skills to rat down in null effectively enough..pretty much I'm poor and not trained to rat. Not yet(mission runner wanting to try incursions)

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