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spurious signal
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Posted - 2006.06.27 07:18:00 -
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Why is space flat?
HippoKing's sig sat on it.
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Toros Revoke
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:20:00 -
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I blame the yeast
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/06/2006 15:24:02
Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
Space it flat because Chuck Norris got angry one day because he stumbled in it; and then decided to trample it so it wouldn't happen again. ;)
If Jack Bauer was ***, his name would be Chuck Norris. 
I blame the profanity filter for killing my joke. Why is g-a-y even a bad word? Alright, ill type homosexual and everybody is happy? This filter is really bothering me sometimes.
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:23:00 -
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because the enemies gate is down 
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Hephaesteus
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada
earth is flat, and is on top of 4 elephants, which are on top of a turtle that's going this way
why would space be different?!
The big turtle is heading toward a female big turtle and when he gets there, there is going to be a big bang.
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CutterJane
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:51:00 -
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Because people spend their entire lives living in a relatively flat plain, and get disoriented when asked to maneuver in a truly 3d setting with no landmarks at all. It gives people a common point of reference.
A good example of this is Homeworld vs Nexus: The Jupiter Incident. Homeworld has the game centered on a flat plain, and the camera is leveled off on this as well. Nexus doesn't have this. Most people found Nexus' controls and views ungainly and disorienting, and harder to maneuver to do what you want to do. Homeworld was easy because you always had the same frame of refence.
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Mikal Drey
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:52:00 -
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hey hey
i think your problem is simple to solve.
Open map, in the control panel click UNFLATTEN.
Welcome to 3D my friend.
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Freya Runestone
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Posted - 2006.06.27 16:03:00 -
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look at our solar system. the planets are also flying around the sun in a allmost flat way.
samo with galaxies, usually they are flat.
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Himo Amasacia
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Posted - 2006.06.27 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada
earth is flat, and is on top of 4 elephants, which are on top of a turtle that's going this way
why would space be different?!
I wanna fly down the lef of eves elephants 
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Mikal Drey
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Posted - 2006.06.27 16:18:00 -
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iirc theres a sect of people who devote them selves to looking down the leg of the elephants (whos names escape me atm) maybe thats why they locked off Jove
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Sanctus Maleficus
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Posted - 2006.06.27 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hephaesteus
Originally by: Splagada
earth is flat, and is on top of 4 elephants, which are on top of a turtle that's going this way
why would space be different?!
The big turtle is heading toward a female big turtle and when he gets there, there is going to be a big bang.
LOL Terry Prachett FTW
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.06.27 16:52:00 -
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I WILL SAIL AROUND THE UNIVERSE TO PROVE THAT IT ISN'T FLAT!
All I will need is a good ship and several chests of gold before I begin. You can escrow them to me at anytime.
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Dearnen
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Posted - 2006.06.27 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dearnen on 27/06/2006 18:37:57
Wait.
Wait.
You mean...
Are you telling me there's a "3rd" dimension of space?
Woah.
Like...that's...I mean, wow.
Ok, I get it, it's like that "Napoleon" ice cream... 3! flavors!
Wow, "3" dimensions. It blows my mind.
Hey dude, pass the nachos. I'm hungry.
-Dearnen
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Padaxes
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:06:00 -
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Move your camera so it is looking down on your ship, double click on a bit of space in the distance, watch in amazement as your ship flies `down`.
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Hueylee
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rasitiln
because the enemies gate is down
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Kologa Belmora
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kahn Mer
Short Answer : Galaxtic Spin
Long Simplified Answer: Big Bang go BOOM. Things go spinning into space. Things have inertia so they keep spinning. Even big things like galaxies. In fact bigger things have more inertia and spin longer. Galaxies tend to "lie flat" because of the outward force applied by the spin opposing the inward force of the sun's gravity. As galaxies lose inertia, and that takes a seriously long time, they get less and less flat. Things begin to wander and get less flat.
Very simplified. Not fact, just one of the many theories, but generally accepted. And like most proposed theories on the formation of "great big crap" it assumes a sort of err, closed environment. Galaxies may get less flat when they bump into other galaxies or blackholes or developer's egos.
Even so the galaxy is still lightyears thick
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Culmen
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:14:00 -
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space-time is flat because the devs didnt want to program in gravity
because it would take too much resources and result in everyone and his alt complaining about crashing their raven into a planet
oh wait... just space?
NVM
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kologa Belmora
Originally by: Kahn Mer
Short Answer : Galaxtic Spin
Long Simplified Answer: Big Bang go BOOM. Things go spinning into space. Things have inertia so they keep spinning. Even big things like galaxies. In fact bigger things have more inertia and spin longer. Galaxies tend to "lie flat" because of the outward force applied by the spin opposing the inward force of the sun's gravity. As galaxies lose inertia, and that takes a seriously long time, they get less and less flat. Things begin to wander and get less flat.
Very simplified. Not fact, just one of the many theories, but generally accepted. And like most proposed theories on the formation of "great big crap" it assumes a sort of err, closed environment. Galaxies may get less flat when they bump into other galaxies or blackholes or developer's egos.
Even so the galaxy is still lightyears thick
So is eve... unflatten your map. 
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Padaxes
Move your camera so it is looking down on your ship, double click on a bit of space in the distance, watch in amazement as your ship flies `down`.
but but, how do I know it's down and not up? 
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sensor Error on 27/06/2006 19:30:18
Originally by: Altrex Stoppel
So does Chuck Norris use stargates or jumpdrives Ivan?
he walks...
The universe just pauses time and waits for him.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 27/06/2006 19:30:22
Originally by: Rasitiln
because the enemies gate is down
Yeah. First two books were good then the series crapped out. Ender's Shadow was good though.
My second fav. bit is when he signs the Piggy contract and they realise he is the genocide. His response when the point out he killed more people than anyone else in history "My father told me to always be the best at what I do" was classic :)
But my most fav. has to be the Queen's letter at the end of the first book. Card at his emotion tugging best.
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Mikal Drey
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:57:00 -
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personally i prefered Alvim maker series.
just couldnt get into any of his other books.
back to topic . . Up is up and down is down. not sure where people got confused on that one. beter to take the dis way and dat way approach its much easier
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Mtthias Clemi
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Posted - 2006.06.27 20:15:00 -
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It is flat becuase i said so
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fr8st
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Posted - 2006.06.27 21:46:00 -
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What the cr4p are you talking about? You can fly in what direction you want. :S
If I am for example outside a station, I can fly, relative to the station, every possible angle.
What do you mean?
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The Gauge
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Posted - 2006.06.27 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: The Gauge on 27/06/2006 21:55:48
This is more about the orientation of the camera and the orientation of ships / objects than it is the movement of the ship itself.
Anybody who's played Descent or run around as the Alien in AVP will know the perils of opening up 3D into its true glory, and unless you develop an unparalleled ability to process three dimensional space you won't have any idea what direction you're pointed or where that missile came from.
Anyone remember the very first time they played Elite as a kid and launched from a station? The end of Star Trek II - Wrath of Khan? Think of the possibilities!
I'd love to see it. But I also realise that noobs are finding this game complicated enough as it is without having their only orientational points of reference removed as well :)
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The Gauge
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:03:00 -
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And let's face it.. this is supposed to be a game. You start treating space like real space and the next thing you know people will be asking why you don't skill-train slower relative to stationary players when you're warping ...
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:07:00 -
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1) Move camera so it's facing the top of your ship
2) Double click in the area around your ship (but not actually on it)
Congratulations, you are now flying down. It's surprisingly easy to fly upwards too using a modification of the above method.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: The Gauge
And let's face it.. this is supposed to be a game. You start treating space like real space and the next thing you know people will be asking why you don't skill-train slower relative to stationary players when you're warping ...
Stuff like this keeps me up at night.
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Mtthias Clemi
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:30:00 -
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What i want to know is why i can fly through the sun... now that dont make a lick of sense!!
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Billy Sastard
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: The Gauge
And let's face it.. this is supposed to be a game. You start treating space like real space and the next thing you know people will be asking why you don't skill-train slower relative to stationary players when you're warping ...
I love it!~~!
"So. Why do you spend all your time in station Billy?" "I don't want to waste time warping around, time dilation wrecks your training time, don't you know?"
Anyhow, I think what the OP is getting at, is that wherever you are in eve, youre movements and such are all relative to a fixed 'flat' coordinate system. In addiditon to this, I have tried and tried to get my ship to fly directly down or up, but it just wont do it. Also, have ever tried getting your ship to be 'upside down' (in relation to the aforementioned fixed coordinate system)? Nope doesnt work too well either.
There is also the whole aspect of newtonian physics (or the lack therof).
Long ago, I came to be comfortable with the facts of life in eve, we are flying around in a liquid filled 'space' with a clearly defined 'up' and 'down', not REAL space.
Still a damn fun game imo.
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