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Bigg Easy Trader-Hoes 1	Posted - 2014.07.08 23:57:00 - [31] - Quote KeeganWaffle wrote: drama queens This is rich Kei....I mean Keegan. Rich.
Jack Tronic borkedLabs 176	Posted - 2014.07.09 00:28:00 - [32] - Quote Paikis wrote: I don't see any reason to remove it. Seems like more effort to remove it than to just leave it be. Having said that, your mapping tools are a crutch and you are bad for relying on them. Remember when siggy went down and more than half the corps just stopped working because you scrubs couldn't navigate based on bookmarks? Yeah, I remember that. Not the only problem. The hell are we supposed to do when CCP provides us with zero content as entertainment but we have to sit there as we jump endless amounts of gates?
Two step Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred 4693	Posted - 2014.07.09 00:55:00 - [33] - Quote CCP should not remove the IGB, they should be devoting more effort to it, including more integration with the client. I should be able to drag items into the IGB. If they want to remove it, I could imagine some of the functionality being replicated in CREST, for example things like location/ship type tracking. Until that is available, CCP should not even consider removing it. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
Annette Nolen Red Frog Freight Red-Frog 28	Posted - 2014.07.09 00:59:00 - [34] - Quote Haven't seen it called out yet but the ability to click on things on a page in the IGB and have it open in-game (showinfo on corps/players, contract details, system info, etc.) is pretty critical too. Losing this would REALLY hurt some tools/use-cases.
Valtrinor S0utherN Comfort DARKNESS. 9	Posted - 2014.07.09 01:18:00 - [35] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: To be fair, WH mapping is the ONLY use for the IGB. Not even close. I've spent all except two to three months of my time in EVE in k-space and have never used a mapping tool, yet I use the IGB on an hourly basis at minimum most days. If I'm out on a fleet for example, I can't really afford to have the RAM use of a full-fledged browser running sometimes. In fact, multiple channels I sit in have shorthanded web links, and I even set up my own wiki to have more stuff quickly available for the IGB. See for example: Linkage Quite frankly from a user POV I don't even know what could possibly be the effort involved in "maintaining" Chromium 3 code which to my knowledge has had no changes since being added to replace the hilariously old original IGB and was supposed to be modular and easy to update when introduced. I don't mean this to insult any devs, but it makes no sense. Twitter: @Valtrinor
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1234	Posted - 2014.07.09 01:37:00 - [36] - Quote Jack Tronic wrote: Apparently "issues" about the work maintaining the IGB Implying CCP has actually done any work to maintain the IGB in the last several years in the first place. I always look for stuff relating to the IGB in patchnotes, and I've been disappointed for years. Hell, isn't it still running on a ****** version of Chromium that's 3-4 years old? Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Serith Ellecon Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy 29	Posted - 2014.07.09 01:41:00 - [37] - Quote If you can make a plugin for ALL the major desktop browsers to let our mappers set our autopilots and read locations from the game, maybe you can remove the IGB. Until that point - NO WAY IN HELL do you even THINK about dumping the IGB. Inappropriate signature added.-á CCP Notarealdev.
Kesper North GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 381	Posted - 2014.07.09 01:42:00 - [38] - Quote Don't remove the IGB - or if you do, make sure you're not removing useful functionality with it. The "radar" function of Dotlan alone justifies its existence.
Aebe Amraen Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 71	Posted - 2014.07.09 01:56:00 - [39] - Quote Checking in as another IGB user. This site is my IGB home page: http://www.ohi.se/eve/linkfit/ The database it uses seems to be slightly out-of-date, but it's still amazingly useful. So much easier than importing fit to a fitting tool, exporting to an EVE saved fit file, and then importing to EVE saved fittings. Edit: I just noticed this is in the Wormholes forum. To be clear, I came here from twitter and have nothing to do with wspace these days (though I did live there for a few months, once upon a time). The IGB is not only useful for wormholers!
ArchAngael S U P R E M E - M A T H E M A T I C S A Band Apart. 6	Posted - 2014.07.09 01:58:00 - [40] - Quote The IGB is pretty iconic to Eve and lots of culture surrounds it too. What other MMOG has one? If everytime some idiot posted a reaction gif and I wanted to be an idiot and look at it I had to alt-tab out of Eve, that would be super annoying. Not to mention all the mapping tools, dotlan (imagine having to actually use the in-game starmap for navigation). It would be horrific. Even with memory-hogging alt-tabbing, you still couldn't replace the trusted site functionality spread all over the place. Keep the IGB. Recruiter for Supreme Mathematics (affiliated with Stay Frosty) Take my Eve Online Ship identification quiz at http://fenjaylabs.com/EveShipIdQuiz
Jack Tronic borkedLabs 177	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:02:00 - [41] - Quote Morwen Lagann wrote: Jack Tronic wrote: Apparently "issues" about the work maintaining the IGB Implying CCP has actually done any work to maintain the IGB in the last several years in the first place. I always look for stuff relating to the IGB in patchnotes, and I've been disappointed for years. Hell, isn't it still running on a ****** version of Chromium that's 3-4 years old? Listen to the section in the podcast, CSM dude said it. CCP uses a toolkit called Awesomium. Unforunately it seems when they implemented Awesomium it was 4-5 years ago and they stopped caring to update. Awesomium itself is a great library framework and is maintained and used in quite a few game products now. But yes, the Awesomium they used is still at Chromium 2.0. Perhaps CCP just doesn't want to pay the licensing fee. Perhaps CCP's developers don't know how to integrate an API for the life of them and they fired the original guy.
Alundil Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 583	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:02:00 - [42] - Quote Kesper North wrote: Don't remove the IGB - or if you do, make sure you're not removing useful functionality with it. The "radar" function of Dotlan alone justifies its existence. You ought to speak to your 'boy' up above as he obviously has no idea. System Occupancy Scanner - Deep Space Probes - Clones and Implants
Gilbaron Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 1465	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:22:00 - [43] - Quote the IGB is critically important to our logistics division. please do not remove it without replacing it with something equally awesome we have a tool that we open in the ingame browser that allows us to easily trigger the market to buy stuff for our members. without that functionality or something equally useful, i highly doubt we could keep up our jita buy service. GRRR Goons
Alundil Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 583	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:32:00 - [44] - Quote Here's a link to one of the tools threads where FoxFour talks about this as well. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4785544#post4785544 Not a bad idea to let them know there as well since it might catch the eye of more devs than our poor wormhole section of the forum. System Occupancy Scanner - Deep Space Probes - Clones and Implants
VirusMD Anoikis Vergence Critically Unstable 6	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:42:00 - [45] - Quote Dont be so lazy CCP, The IGB has been neglected for years, we have been forced to build our infrastructure around a decaying corpse of a browser, now you want to take it away instead of fixing it? Prob your biggest fail since "walk in stations" or missing the threadnaught about the ESS wormhole problems... FIX MY IGB PLS!
Justin C4se Oath of the Forsaken Sanguis Ignis Prosperitum 29	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:44:00 - [46] - Quote +1 for the wormhole people not wanting to lose their IGB Fly safe, Oath of the Forsaken
Kaylin Drake Profound Destiny 29	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:58:00 - [47] - Quote Just adding my name to the list. I really don't like CCP constantly removing things that others find great use for, such as the jukebox.. I still miss that. Please don't take out another great feature of this game.. don't remove IGB, if anything.. update it. Please leave it for those that do use it.
Kynric Sky Fighters 102	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:59:00 - [48] - Quote I use the IGB almost constantly. It would be greatly missed. I prefer to play the game in full screen mode.
NinjaTurtle Carte Blanche. Trading 78	Posted - 2014.07.09 03:08:00 - [49] - Quote The biggest question for me is what would happen to all the 3rd party applications that require the IGB's unique access and functionality to operate as intended. Siggy is one that comes to mind immediately, or tracking features on Dotlan as well. But yeah I'm against removing it. Co-host and editor of Declarations of War Podcast http://declarationsofwar.com Twitter- @schertt
Agrippa Hurt The Coven's Spoon Corner Pub 3	Posted - 2014.07.09 03:17:00 - [50] - Quote Inb4 six accounts deactivation
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 1584	Posted - 2014.07.09 03:18:00 - [51] - Quote Get rid of the IGB...for an in game browser that can actually load video. "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart." -Arydanika, Voices from the Void Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com
Bienator II madmen of the skies 2734	Posted - 2014.07.09 03:19:00 - [52] - Quote the only reason why gifs still exist is the eve IGB. Without IGB you commit genocide on a file format CCP. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1235	Posted - 2014.07.09 04:38:00 - [53] - Quote Jack Tronic wrote: Morwen Lagann wrote: Jack Tronic wrote: Apparently "issues" about the work maintaining the IGB Implying CCP has actually done any work to maintain the IGB in the last several years in the first place. I always look for stuff relating to the IGB in patchnotes, and I've been disappointed for years. Hell, isn't it still running on a ****** version of Chromium that's 3-4 years old? Listen to the section in the podcast, CSM dude said it. CCP uses a toolkit called Awesomium. Unforunately it seems when they implemented Awesomium it was 4-5 years ago and they stopped caring to update. Awesomium itself is a great library framework and is maintained and used in quite a few game products now. But yes, the Awesomium they used is still at Chromium 2.0. According to FoxFour, they heavily modified Awesomium to work with EVE, that is extremely terrifying in of itself because I have used Awesomium to project a web browser on textures in a 3d world without effort. I'm not going to waste time listening to a podcast I had no prior reason to listen to in the first place, when you're going to post a confirmation that what I said is accurate for me. Removing the IGB would be a colossally stupid move on CCP's part, and it's a bit disingenuous for CCP to make claims about the amount of effort involved in maintaining the damn thing when there's been barely any effort expended on maintaining it since it was redesigned in the first place. That would have been the time to remove the browser, for what it's worth: when they removed the REALLY bad one and replaced it with what we have now. Right now the appropriate thing to do is to put some effort in and actually start maintaining it. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Van Weyden Locus Signatures 3	Posted - 2014.07.09 05:21:00 - [54] - Quote calaretu wrote: Removing IGB would be very bad. Its a vital part of the daily life of everyone in wspace +1 I use IGB everyday
Citrute Whale Girth Grand Sky Wizards 136	Posted - 2014.07.09 05:47:00 - [55] - Quote CCP should remove the IGB in WH space only. It is clearly an oversight and wasn't intended to be there in the first place.
AtomYcX Hard Knocks Inc. 76	Posted - 2014.07.09 06:03:00 - [56] - Quote Aebe Amraen wrote: Checking in as another IGB user. This site is my IGB home page: http://www.ohi.se/eve/linkfit/ The database it uses seems to be slightly out-of-date, but it's still amazingly useful. So much easier than importing fit to a fitting tool, exporting to an EVE saved fit file, and then importing to EVE saved fittings. Edit: I just noticed this is in the Wormholes forum. To be clear, I came here from twitter and have nothing to do with wspace these days (though I did live there for a few months, once upon a time). The IGB is not only useful for wormholers! psst...that's what this is for http://puu.sh/a3gix/14f419aa66.png Still requires the IGB of course but it's an automatically updating HTML file with searchable in-game links to all your Pyfa fits - I believe EFT has similar functionality too.
Austin K'Pfor Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2014.07.09 06:07:00 - [57] - Quote PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN
Winthorp 1841	Posted - 2014.07.09 06:12:00 - [58] - Quote Austin K'Pfor wrote: PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN And your capslock button it appears. Snip Please refrain from discussing forum moderation. ISD Ezwal.
Agrippa Hurt The Coven's Spoon Corner Pub 3	Posted - 2014.07.09 06:24:00 - [59] - Quote Austin K'Pfor wrote: PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN
Proclus Diadochu Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance 1826	Posted - 2014.07.09 06:33:00 - [60] - Quote Austin K'Pfor wrote: PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN ^ FUKUNG WILL LOSE SO MUCH TRAFFIC, CCP?!?!?! WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION FOR SHITLERS EVERYWHERE?! WHY DO YOU WANT TO PROTECT LOCAL SO BAD?!?! Irrelevant-á\| Twitter: @autoritare \| [email protected] My Blog: http://diogenes-club.blogspot.com/ \| The Diogenes Club**

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