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Legende	Posted - 2006.06.29 05:47:00 - [1] I've posted on this topic in the past, but I'm going to post again b/c it's been some time since I have last. Station containers were introduced to the game due to player demand for a way to organize our hangars. We wanted folders, the devs gave us cans... ok, I can deal with that, especially now that the auto-lock can be turned off. Now I love'em, can't imagine life without them. Oh wait, yes I can, it's called 0.0. Why in the good Lord's name would you guys introduce a method of station organization that is unavailable to the people that need it most? Before station cans, I used multiple stations for organization since almost every system has more than 1 station. Also, items tend to build up alot more in 0.0 due to the need to transport them great distances, leading to sparser trips and greater item buildup until the next run to empire space. We 0.0 dwellers NEED to be given a viable way to organize our hangars. GSCs are too limited in space and we don't have the multiple station option. I propose that station cans are made transportable while packaged only. Make'em 10000m3 when packaged or something, so that it isn't easy to transport them but viable to put them on a convoy or something. Or maybe make them available at 0.0 stations, make an exception for the "no npc items in player owned static stations" rule. I dunno, do something, b/c it's ridiculous to me that we are denied the only decent means by which to organize our inventories.
Quazamoto	Posted - 2006.06.29 06:04:00 - [2] Well, this isn't the best replacement but it's one way to handle it. Freighters use these containers, General Freight Containers, which can be used to organize things in freighters in transporting things. They are 120,000m3 in size. 100K mass so a single freight trip can bring a handful down. It's what I use in a couple stations to help the situation. Although I would prefer the station containers
James Duar	Posted - 2006.06.29 06:20:00 - [3] I'm of the opinion that stations and outposts (and motherships/Titans naturally) should as a function of their existence produce however many station containers (so say, they'll put like 12000 on the market per day, and buy them back at the same rate they sell them) as people might need to buy. Call it a function of the station services that they keep these things available. This way station containers are available to everyone, everywhere, in a way that is consistent with the universe. Alternatively, just release some BPO's for them and alter them so while packaged they only take up a few hundred m3 (it's basically a giant box, a giant box is tiny when flat packed). --- Encrypted Client Side Bookmarks! Raise YOUR voice to CCP. Let's end slow copy times and bookmark lag for good!
Legende	Posted - 2006.06.29 06:33:00 - [4] Originally by: James Duar I'm of the opinion that stations and outposts (and motherships/Titans naturally) should as a function of their existence produce however many station containers (so say, they'll put like 12000 on the market per day, and buy them back at the same rate they sell them) as people might need to buy. Call it a function of the station services that they keep these things available. This way station containers are available to everyone, everywhere, in a way that is consistent with the universe. Alternatively, just release some BPO's for them and alter them so while packaged they only take up a few hundred m3 (it's basically a giant box, a giant box is tiny when flat packed). I like that idea alot... that's a good way to justify it by continuity, make it a service of all stations/outposts.
Legende	Posted - 2006.06.29 13:16:00 - [5] Oh no you don't, not this time. Back to the top. Let's see a CCP response, eh?
Kiah Khan	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:36:00 - [6] This seriously needs to happen. Someone from CCP please push the magic button to make it happen. :)
Legende	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:24:00 - [7] Yup, still waiting. Nope, not gonna go away this time.
Javane	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:30:00 - [8] I agree with him. Also in POS Corporate Hangar Arrays, it would be nice if we could repackage items in hangar so they can stack because after using an item, repackaging and putting it back would be very nice and convienient. Also being able to use secure cans interms of C.H.A. so each player doesn't need to have his/her own division, but can have their own protective stuff. I mean it seems like a simple thing to add in. Impossible is nothing.
Legende	Posted - 2006.06.30 00:11:00 - [9] I've got this thread on my browser's links bar...
Drizit	Posted - 2006.06.30 00:55:00 - [10] Edited by: Drizit on 30/06/2006 00:57:04 Seed BPO's for station containers. Also this can help by removing the NPC sell orders in stations where player orders are available. Create a player market for them as well. Make them in the station/POS that they are needed. No need to transport them at all. --
Legende	Posted - 2006.06.30 08:29:00 - [11] A bumb while I travel 120km on impulse to the next gate...
K Shara	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:40:00 - [12] please station containers for 0.0 <><><><><><><><><> Contraband <><><><><><><><><>
Legende	Posted - 2006.06.30 16:30:00 - [13] While we're on the subject, how about containers remember their own position/size... allow for a default setting [so that we can put space cans where we want them by default] and have all cans remember their own setting, make it a client side setting so that it doesn't have to be stored on the servers.
Legende	Posted - 2006.06.30 22:17:00 - [14] Has it been this long since I last posted? My how time flies when you're attempting to bring order to the chaos that is your 0.0 inventory.
James Duar	Posted - 2006.07.01 08:59:00 - [15] I support moves to actually get some BPO's for this seeded! --- Encrypted Client Side Bookmarks! Raise YOUR voice to CCP. Let's end slow copy times and bookmark lag for good!
Legende	Posted - 2006.07.01 18:07:00 - [16] Bizump.
James Duar	Posted - 2006.07.02 07:44:00 - [17] Out of interest can we get ban hammered for this? Coz that would suck. But holy hell I need those station containers. --- Encrypted Client Side Bookmarks! Raise YOUR voice to CCP. Let's end slow copy times and bookmark lag for good!
Kittamaru	Posted - 2006.07.02 15:08:00 - [18] I'll help BADUMP
Jenxia Balakos	Posted - 2006.07.02 22:30:00 - [19] Fabulous idea - bump you go
Legende	Posted - 2006.07.03 01:45:00 - [20] Originally by: James Duar Out of interest can we get ban hammered for this? Coz that would suck. But holy hell I need those station containers. I certainly hope not. It's surprising this issue hasn't been more pressed in the past, it's sorely needed. Thus, here I am. =)
Rhamnousia	Posted - 2006.07.03 07:38:00 - [21] the road to glory is bumpy. --------------------------------------- - yes, im a noob - yes, im a nut job - no, i dont give a .... about what u think of my noobness - now, tell me sumthing i dont know
James Duar	Posted - 2006.07.03 07:56:00 - [22] This would be easier if it was just stickied. --- Encrypted Client Side Bookmarks! Raise YOUR voice to CCP. Let's end slow copy times and bookmark lag for good!
Crumplecorn	Posted - 2006.07.03 10:03:00 - [23] When I first got to 0.0 I was well ****ed off by the lack of station containers. /signed ---------- Throwing ships away doing stupid things since April '06
Banlish	Posted - 2006.07.03 12:19:00 - [24] I would like to see this idea come to light, POS's are full of items all over the damn place until we truck cans in and/or empty the damn things to a station to be refined down. /Signed.
Cazziel	Posted - 2006.07.03 21:01:00 - [25] If they find their way to 0.0 one thing should be done. They should only give like 1 tritanium when refined, because if alliances/corps can buy them indefinetely, it would be a great source of minerals especially during war time.
James Duar	Posted - 2006.07.04 04:15:00 - [26] The alternative is just to give us BPO's for them, and make the packaged station container only take up say 10-40 m3 of cargo space, but the assembled container take up the full 1,000,000 m3. That way, we can put them in stations w/o manufacturing capability. --- Encrypted Client Side Bookmarks! Raise YOUR voice to CCP. Let's end slow copy times and bookmark lag for good!
Legende	Posted - 2006.07.04 07:01:00 - [27] Originally by: James Duar This would be easier if it was just stickied. True, but far less fun and I would have even less to do during my downtime.
Ricdic	Posted - 2006.07.04 10:19:00 - [28] I would expect this to be very easy for CCP to do. Or at least allow multiple hangars. In current form, I have around 400 items in my item hangar. This means every time I dock, I get heavy lag while all the items are being generated. This would likely be killing a hamster each time. Either introduce station containers of some sort, or bring out multiple hangars (even if at a fee). Say station charges 5,000 isk a month for a second hangar. Goes up in cost for more hangars. Set amount of hangars for rent in a station, and price increases if the station has no free hangars. The way I am about to resort to, is building 10 Iteron mk 5's , and using their cargoholds as hangars. It is sad that this is required off such a simple issue. I hope CCP finds it in their hearts to bring such an easy addition to the game in a timely fashion.
James Duar	Posted - 2006.07.04 12:37:00 - [29] It's literally a matter of a stat change and possible 1 line of Perl (to stop them being launchable in space). FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I COULD PROBABLY DO IT MYSELF! --- Encrypted Client Side Bookmarks! Raise YOUR voice to CCP. Let's end slow copy times and bookmark lag for good!
James Duar	Posted - 2006.07.04 14:42:00 - [30] Annoying problem, easy solutions - do it CCP! --- Encrypted Client Side Bookmarks! Raise YOUR voice to CCP. Let's end slow copy times and bookmark lag for good!

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