First

The world map box change is much appreciated!

I love the part about the skill group showing up in the skill info, i too always forget whch skill belongs to which group

A fun fact:

In dev blog threads, I'm always in before Chribba.

*smug*

It's very nice to see some of these minor usability flaws addressed after all these years. Good stuff, everyone!

Want some more ideas? I've got one for how group sell functionality in the client UI could look...

I know! Me too!!

great stuff.

but about the skill queue, how about the option to queue up a skill to start when its prerequisite finishes?
I realize this could be an issue with injecting skills you don't currently have the prerequisite for, but what if you could put it in the queue, and the queue injects it for you when ready?
So when Large Hybrid Turrets V finishes while I sleep, I would love to have a couple of levels of Large Blaster Spec when I wake up :D

World Map Control Panel stays minimized

The corporation wallet tooltip definitely shouldn't replace the personal one, it should instead be an option to show BOTH personal and corporation. Being able to see the corp wallet balance at a glance will come in very handy, but not at the expense of being able to see my own.

One of my favorite UI changes for winter is that, instead of finding a skill youGÇÿre already training in your list of skills to add next level to the training queue, you can now shift click said skill, and drag it to add next level to the training queue.

A fun fact:

In dev blog threads, I'm always in before Chribba.

*smug*

I would really like a search function in the Skill Sheet.
With over hundreds of skills injected, it's hard to find which is which.

Greyscale kind of deserved that feature after all that right clicking Good thing other players benefit from it too!

Punkturis, why are the wallet settings in a tab and most other settings (fleet/overview/mail/drones) accessed through the top-left window icon?

how about the systems list on the left ? it's gone since a while, and i need it :/

i'm talking about this : http://tof.canardpc.com/view/3ed76b5f-7ed1-4c3f-abd9-69ebe3332cef.jpg

since the beginning on winter build it has disappeared, while i use it very often :/

World Map Control Panel stays minimized

You, sir, are a goddamned hero. The Exploration channel will thank you for not having to listen to me ***** about this anymore.

Any reason why you chose shift-drag to train another level of a skill instead of the standard shortcut of ctrl-drag for making a copy?

Other than that it all looks pretty awesome.

So very much this. I'd imagine the average person who cares about their personnel wallet and corp wallet don't really give a rip about their AUR balance.

It's a meh'ish change, I guess, for corp alts... or people who just use the corp wallet as their own, but couldn't you remove the useless AUR hint and make it list personnel + corp?

Wallet Balance [ALT-W]
ISK amount
Corp Balance
ISK amount

A change like that would take the same four lines, and be vastly more useful to most everyone.

But you have the new and improved system info, and it looks the same in both map mode and not map mode
You can see all the system names if you mouse over the colored boxes.

These sound nice. But how about the most obvious feature of all - search in the skill list. As a newbie, I often have a very hard time finding where the skill I'd like to train is. I'm forced to use EveMon to get the grouping. But why can't I just search for the skill name?

This. I have 250 skills or something I can never find anything ! Thanks !

can you please also add an option to check all the boxes under a tab in the overvieuw settings?

As I recently had to redo my overvieuw it annoys the crap out of me to tick every single box in the ships tab and for the npc tab.

But you have the new and improved system info, and it looks the same in both map mode and not map mode
You can see all the system names if you mouse over the colored boxes.

This one should be manageable.

When you quit eve, you have to press the button 'quit game'.

I think it should say 'quit' or 'quit eve' or something like that. Eve is not ONLY a game, it is so much more!

It would be a very easy addition to the 'eve is real'-thingy you guys are(rightly so) trying to pull off.

o/ Louis !
Yay! 324 skills here and after more than 6 years of play I still find myself wondering if that skill was in Electronics or in Engineering and later to find out that it was in neither.

But CCP if you already fiddling with skill books, maybe you could copy some relevant bonus information over respective skill book?

For example in Thanatos info we can find following bonuses:

Gallente Carrier Skill Bonuses:
50% bonus to Capital Shield and Armor transfer range per level
5% bonus to deployed FightersGÇÖ damage per level
99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules
Can fit Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration modules
Can deploy 1 additional Fighter or Drone per level
200% bonus to Fighter control range

What I would like to see, is that we could find same bonus info also in Gallente Carrier Skill itself.

Dear Duchess Punkturis,


Any chance we could get Show Info on Modules to have a Skills Tab, In addition to prerequisites?

e.g. Large Shield Extender
Shield Upgrades

• Shield Management
• Shield Operation
• Shield Upgrades

In addition, any possibility to get Skill Info explicitly state the Module Market Group it affects and synergistic skills?

e.g. Signal Suppression

Electronic Warfare > Remote Sensor Dampeners

• Long Distance Jamming
• Sensor Linking
• Weapon Disruption

The latter one is clearly a muddier issue to tackle.

Your loyal servant,
Apollo

looks good! But I was wondering if the insurance information would be available to just the owner of the ship? don't really want people to know if I'm flying insured or not.

So very much this. I'd imagine the average person who cares about their personnel wallet and corp wallet don't really give a rip about their AUR balance.

It's a meh'ish change, I guess, for corp alts... or people who just use the corp wallet as their own, but couldn't you remove the useless AUR hint and make it list personnel + corp?

Wallet Balance [ALT-W]
ISK amount
Corp Balance
ISK amount

A change like that would take the same four lines, and be vastly more useful to most everyone.

I'm seeing a winning formula here...

1. Take a whole bunch of things that irk players every day they log on and fix them.
2. Tell us about it in a devblog.
3. Have the devs hang around in the comments thread to give further communication/clarification/feedback.

We've now seen this strategy twice and it's generating more goodwill among your paying customers than new features. I love new features too, but a lot of this small stuff is pure aurum.

or just display the whole thing? corp, personal and aur... then everybody should be happy (right there's no such thing)

lol I promise you nobody asked me to hang around in this comments thread, I do it because I enjoy it (believe it or not)..

how about the systems list on the left ? it's gone since a while, and i need it :/

i'm talking about this : http://tof.canardpc.com/view/3ed76b5f-7ed1-4c3f-abd9-69ebe3332cef.jpg

since the beginning on winter build it has disappeared, while i use it very often :/

or just display the whole thing? corp, personal and aur... then everybody should be happy (right there's no such thing)

Wooo, nice and fancy \o/.

Adding skill category to the info windows: win!

---

Suggestion for the paper cuts team(s):

Being able to use the shortcut keys to target lock fleet mates in the watch list.

Use case:
Often times logi's will need to keep a number of people target locked, right click ->lock target is not as efficient as [hot key] + right click. If possible maybe shift highlight all the pilots then [hot key]+left click to lock all the highlight pilots?

CCP Punkturis is probably at home and scanning the forums while listening to Rock Music. CCP must be proud to have such a dedicated person with excellent musical tastes.

Very very very very much this.

Honestly I was just hoping for a quick and dirty fix, but yours would work wonders as well.

I might not be able to edit this for Crucible but I'll see what I can do

I'm at home yes but you are so wrong about the music.. you're probably confusing me with CCP Affinity who has music taste that appeals to more people than my music taste (which my colleagues make fun of me for all the time)

On a related note, can you look into why everyone in a corp's wallet flashes when someone adjusts the corp wallet balance by making a market order or selling something where the money goes into the corp wallet? It's been a weird bug that's been happening for months now. It even affects people in the corporation who can't see the corp wallet at all. This is not simply limited to the corporation this character is in.

I'm at home yes but you are so wrong about the music.. you're probably confusing me with CCP Affinity who has music taste that appeals to more people than my music taste (which my colleagues make fun of me for all the time)

Dear Duchess Punkturis,


Any chance we could get Show Info on Modules to have a Skills Tab, In addition to prerequisites?

e.g. Large Shield Extender
Shield Upgrades

• Shield Management
• Shield Operation
• Shield Upgrades

In addition, any possibility to get Skill Info explicitly state the Module Market Group it affects and synergistic skills?

e.g. Signal Suppression

Electronic Warfare > Remote Sensor Dampeners

• Long Distance Jamming
• Sensor Linking
• Weapon Disruption

The latter one is clearly a muddier issue to tackle.

Your loyal servant,
Apollo

It's still there, just mouse over each individual block, and it will tell you system name and security status.

I know! it's so annoying, it happens to me all the time and each and every time my wallet flashes I go check if someone was nice enough to give me ISK - but no, never

I'll see if I can do something about it.

"something nice"

Great user interface inprovements. Give the team BFF Saturday off!

What ship is in the first screen shot?

Dear Duchess Punkturis,


Any chance we could get Show Info on Modules to have a Skills Tab, In addition to prerequisites?

e.g. Large Shield Extender
Shield Upgrades

• Shield Management
• Shield Operation
• Shield Upgrades

In addition, any possibility to get Skill Info explicitly state the Module Market Group it affects and synergistic skills?

e.g. Signal Suppression

Electronic Warfare > Remote Sensor Dampeners

• Long Distance Jamming
• Sensor Linking
• Weapon Disruption

The latter one is clearly a muddier issue to tackle.

Your loyal servant,
Apollo

not the same thing, and i explained why here ; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=396527#post396527

but seems you didn't read, and same for CCP Punkturis as he ignored my answer.

Don't worry, I fixed that.

That you never get any ISK that is ;)

A fun fact:

In dev blog threads, I'm always in before Chribba.

*smug*

In the items window in station. Please put a "repackage and stack all" button on the bottom of the window.

Is there nobody else that wants this? Hmm. Nobody else that senses some tingling in their ocd sense when you see "Magnetic field stabilizer II, Magnetic field stabilizer II, Magnetic field stabilizer II, Magnetic field stabilizer II (8)...... in their items?

Is there nobody else that wants this? Hmm. Nobody else that senses some tingling in their ocd sense when you see "Magnetic field stabilizer II, Magnetic field stabilizer II, Magnetic field stabilizer II, Magnetic field stabilizer II (8)...... in their items?

Good suggestion Rixiu about the AUR.

One little pet annoyance I have had is when you look at the ship skills - it only states it cannot be trained on trial accounts, it doesn't say how training the skill will improve your ships functionality, either in percentage or specifically.
Can I also mention about the message you get when you are about to dock - getting TOWED ffs. If that were the case - can I SEE a tug come out of the station and tow me in.
If that is to hard too do - how about saying "Hold on while we teleport you into a spare hanger"

Affects immersion for me

the spaceship command skills don't have bonus descriptions in them because they don't affect every ship that requires them.

Seriously? You let us replace our personal wallet with corp wallet yet left the ******* aur balance where it is?

Wallet Balance [ALT-W]
99,999,999,999.00
Corp Balance
99,999,999,999.00

How hard can it be?

Edit. Better yet, remove aur completely from the wallet and move it to the NEX store interface where it belongs. That's the only time someone will ever use it... in the NEX store.

As someone who hangs out in Help Chat a lot, this would be a FANTASTIC improvement. So many questions on whether this skill or that affects a module... /me shudders

Edit: Oh, and keep up the FANTASTIC work, Duchess :-D Didn't mean to imply that I don't <3 the stuff you've rolled out so far.

Seriously? You let us replace our personal wallet with corp wallet yet left the ******* aur balance where it is?

Wallet Balance [ALT-W]
99,999,999,999.00
Corp Balance
99,999,999,999.00

How hard can it be?

I might not be able to edit this for Crucible but I'll see what I can do

/me dies of happiness

These improvements to the UI are decent but one I would love to see in the future is a little love for the nearly impossible to click overheat button. Just a TINY bit of enlargement would be go a very long way. Here is a small example that I threw together with my astounding Photoshop Paint skills.

[IMG]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/29/overheatbutttonthatican.jpg[/IMG]

Umm...

SuperSpy00bob and I suggested that exact thing on page 3, and we already got a dev response in this thread that they'd look at it, and try to make it happen. Prob. not in time for the expansion though. It's... a few posts prior to yours.

Feature Request:

- Allow us to start multiple votes to lock/unlock BPOs if multiple BPOs are selected when a vote to lock/unlock is initiated.
- Allow us to register multiple votes simultaneously if multiple open votes are selected when a yes/no vote is cast.
- Allow us to put multiple passed votes into effect simultaneously if multiple passed votes are selected before issuing command.

This request would address the issue of wanting to move offices, but being unable to because you've managed to lock down some 800+ BPOs over the years and don't want to get carpal tunnel going through the 2400+ mouse clicks (and miles of scroll wheel usage) currently required to unlock them all prior to unrenting the office in question.

/me asks to join the same grave

But really, that panel was so annoying.

I'll tell Soundwave about this, he's been gathering more little things in a little things forum thread

I just hadn't gotten around to taking a closer look at it. This thread is about the stuff in the dev blog and I just wanted to focus on issues/comments related to that first..

Since your improving some of the skill book aspects of the game, can you also make it to where you can see, pause, and resume the currently training skill on the jump clone page of the character sheet? I find it terribly aggravating having to switch back and forth for one clone jump.

hey why would Rixiu read all the comments, maybe that would stop him from being bitter and a bit rude

Cause like me, some people don't have an hour or so to read through all the comments. We read the blog, skim first page of comments to get initial response for the obvious... Don't see our concern, we reply our opinion. Some bloggers understand the TLDR, and a sharp blogger would have had CCP Guard edit and update the OP with something new you are addressing or updating for such concerns.

Btw, Passive aggressive still comes off bad to your clients.

Btw, Passive aggressive still comes off bad to your clients.

oh look a feature request thread!!

lol I was (mostly) just joking!

But you have the new and improved system info, and it looks the same in both map mode and not map mode
You can see all the system names if you mouse over the colored boxes.

Btw, Passive aggressive still comes off bad to your clients.

I'm not one to pick at positive improvements ... but how long did those little things take? Cause Team Papercuts made a Ton of really cool and needed Fixes in 3 weeks... And that Bar is set pretty high, and by the looks of it, you just used a popsicle stick to jump with. *shrug* just saying.

I'm not one to pick at positive improvements, and I really like the world map staying minimized, but the rest of that post I really couldn't get excited about. Seemed kinda half inspired... Like seeing the corp wallet, so now I can toggle personal or corp wallet when I hover over my wallet; why not toggle to show both or just personel? Cause I'm guessing that I'm always gonna want to see my personal wallet when I see it go flashy.
Maybe I'm just being Devil's advocate here, but how long did those little things take? Cause Team Papercuts made a Ton of really cool and needed Fixes in 3 weeks... And that Bar is set pretty high, and by the looks of it, you just used a popsicle stick to jump with. *shrug* just saying.

CCP Greyscale right-clicked EVERYTHING?!.... pix or it didn't happen. :P

But seriously - that's a lot of right clicks...

Anyway very cool changes +1

QFT

although, I think they were going to change that at some point, where initiating a clone jump would automatically do all of those things for you. Maybe I'm wrong? If they aren't planning to do that - they should.

Very cool stuff - bravo!

hm... I don't know where to say... maybe here. I would realy like one minor tweak.

When you look at ships info box in skills tab, you see what skills you already got trained and what not. Now after this blog we will see that in individual skill info box too - whats nice! But do you know what I realy wanted? When you are in ships info recommendation tab (where are certificates listed for that particular ship), you can't see what certificates you have leardned, and what don't. It whould realy help if you could look that information.

From my post we have one week until full winter expantion release. But it's very minor fix. Can you make it until expantion? How long does it take to fix it?

It's a chalange! :)

Duchess CCP Punkturis has the sauce, with lots of win.

What is it with CCP these last few weeks? The geeks suddenly get their grove on? Or has the "management" gone on holiday?

You'll see a list of all we did in the patch nodes, it's going to take you a while to read all that

Hey! no feature creeping right before release!
I recommend you suggest this in the "little things" thread that Soundwave is running and I liked in an earlier post.

(Team BFF trivia: One beautiful Saturday in October, CCP Greyscale right clicked everything in EVE, everything!)

or just display the whole thing? corp, personal and aur... then everybody should be happy (right there's no such thing)

so I did this like you suggested except for I removed the option to turn this on/off

so if you have access to corp wallet, the hint will now show you both the corp balance and your personal balance. if you don't have access to the corp wallet, the hint will show you just your personal balance.

team work! :hfive:

This one should be manageable.

When you quit eve, you have to press the button 'quit game'.

I think it should say 'quit' or 'quit eve' or something like that. Eve is not ONLY a game, it is so much more!

It would be a very easy addition to the 'eve is real'-thingy you guys are(rightly so) trying to pull off.

1. did something happen to chribba? is he okay?

so I did this like you suggested except for I removed the option to turn this on/off

so if you have access to corp wallet, the hint will now show you both the corp balance and your personal balance. if you don't have access to the corp wallet, the hint will show you just your personal balance.

team work! :hfive:

In truth you're probably going to solve it in a coffee break

A fun fact:

In dev blog threads, I'm always in before Chribba.

*smug*

Looks decent overall.

But this:
Corporation Wallet Tooltip - If you can add this setting, then you can add a setting to let us remove the display of Aurum. Aurum-displaying is never interesting for anyone of us, even if you are seeking to buy stuff from that store you only need that information right then, Isk is always relevant. And while Aurum has very low relevance to a few pilots, it has zero to most. It makes no sense at all to have a gigantic display blocking our wallet-view to display something useless, no? More options is good, let us remove it please.

so I did this like you suggested except for I removed the option to turn this on/off

so if you have access to corp wallet, the hint will now show you both the corp balance and your personal balance. if you don't have access to the corp wallet, the hint will show you just your personal balance.

team work! :hfive:

You still need to remove Aurum tho. You remember the old wallet content display before Aur was added? Then we only actually had one thing displayed, but when Aur was introduced, it was put in there with a big font, completely taking over the wallet display. Now we're stuck with a tiny wallet text and a (pardon the phrase, but this is exactly what it is) a ****-blocking Aur-display. It's a gigantic insult in our face, that not only takes up more space than the relevant information, it also happens to be.. you know, irrelevant (to almost everyone, and for the few others, it's useless 'at most time').

The least thing you can do is to add a setting for that Aur-display too. It's not like we requested that repeatedly back when it was added in the first place. And it's not like it's gotten less annoying and ****-blocking over the months.. And it's not like it should be very hard for you to add a tick-box. Come on, we all know you want to promote it, and we all know barely anyone uses it. Right now you're ruining a good addition (the corp-display option) by being stubborn about maintaining something that is a) useless and b) annoying.

Don't make me repeat myself for a fifth time!

bolded the important bits
(too bad I can't color them too to make them stand more out )

Yup, that's exactly how I read it.

Either you have: corp + personal display (including Aur)
Or you have: personal display (including Aur)

So either way there's no escape out of the annoying Aur-display. Hence me jumping to the conclusion that you want to force this on players, since the only real optional display here is corp wallet on/off. Either you're not very good at explaining, or I'm not very good at reading, but when I have now read your posts five-six times I still see that Aur is going to be a permenent display, no matter what?

you're either trolling me or really bad at reading I suspect the first

I told Eladaris I did as he suggested, just read what he suggested.

Then I said that you'd see your personal and corp balance if you have access to it and then just your personal balance if you don't have access to corp balance. no AUR. as Eladaris suggested.

If I may, to be perfectly clear... Aurum will be an optional display, correct?

you're either trolling me or really bad at reading I suspect the first

I told Eladaris I did as he suggested, just read what he suggested.

Then I said that you'd see your personal and corp balance if you have access to it and then just your personal balance if you don't have access to corp balance. no AUR. as Eladaris suggested.

Either way, nice to have it cleared up, and a big thank you for getting rid of the Aur, finally. It's been a nuissance for a long time for me and some friends, and to be fair, I never thought I'd see this day coming, after suggesting having it removed and/or optional so many times.

Two things to add: a) good of you to keep responding and/or reading this thread, that's something CCP could do with alot more, and b) in general, when you're changing stuff like this, the base rule is "more options is better". Players want to customize their clients to reflect their interests/appeals, so if you're editing displays and tools.. add optional displays, if you can.

Cheers

Actually, you were wrong (this time).. I did read your response to him, but I only glanced through what he posted. After all, he's just a player and his opinions are quite irrelevant to me.

Either way, nice to have it cleared up, and a big thank you for getting rid of the Aur, finally. It's been a nuissance for a long time for me and some friends, and to be fair, I never thought I'd see this day coming, after suggesting having it removed and/or optional so many times.

Two things to add: a) good of you to keep responding and/or reading this thread, that's something CCP could do with alot more, and b) in general, when you're changing stuff like this, the base rule is "more options is better". Players want to customize their clients to reflect their interests/appeals, so if you're editing displays and tools.. add optional displays, if you can.

Cheers

CCP Punkturis, what is the possibility of sneaking into the expansion the request for a pop-up red flag or other such icon over your hud any time you are warp scrambled/ ecm'ed/ TP etc.?

Seriously, I got my wish for drag-and-drop organising of your targets, and if I could get this request, I will have your baby.

if I wasn't a guy.

Its the thought that counts.

It's a bit late now for adding new features, but post this in Soundwave's little things thread (I linked it somewhere earlier) and it might get on BFF's backlog.

... you realize that I'm not a guy

In the items window in station. Please put a "repackage and stack all" button on the bottom of the window.

or just display the whole thing? corp, personal and aur... then everybody should be happy (right there's no such thing)

Good suggestion Rixiu about the AUR.

One little pet annoyance I have had is when you look at the ship skills - it only states it cannot be trained on trial accounts, it doesn't say how training the skill will improve your ships functionality, either in percentage or specifically.

Can I also mention about the message you get when you are about to dock - getting TOWED ffs. If that were the case - can I SEE a tug come out of the station and tow me in.
If that is to hard too do - how about saying "Hold on while we teleport you into a spare hanger"

Affects immersion for me

Feature Request:

- Allow us to start multiple votes to lock/unlock BPOs if multiple BPOs are selected when a vote to lock/unlock is initiated.
- Allow us to register multiple votes simultaneously if multiple open votes are selected when a yes/no vote is cast.
- Allow us to put multiple passed votes into effect simultaneously if multiple passed votes are selected before issuing command.

This request would address the issue of wanting to move offices, but being unable to because you've managed to lock down some 800+ BPOs over the years and don't want to get carpal tunnel going through the 2400+ mouse clicks (and miles of scroll wheel usage) currently required to unlock them all prior to unrenting the office in question.

Nope, you'll have to open your wallet to see the Aurum balance - sorry.

oh look a feature request thread!!

Dutchess Punk, like the guy above me said, THANK YOU for keeping up with this thread and replying to us on a regular basis. It's nice to see that a dev is spending time to listen to players and try to help get our minor papercuts addressed as soon as they can be.
I'm rather tempted to say you should try to pick up the Communications dev position because you'd probably be awesome at that, unlike a certain (previous?) ccp who didn't know when to humble himself

This is probably the first time someone suggests a programmer should have something to do with communication
But thanks! I like to work with you guys - that way we get more awesome stuff out!