Didn't you sell your character

I am still waiting for the first pHorn site that offers membership using isk or plex.

As for it being CCP approved. Speaking from first hand knowledge CCP has a problem in communication

Honestly I am cheering for Somer this time. If this model is legal think of what the large isk holders in the game can do with it. This will open the door for groups like the Goons, PL,NC,Nulli to make real money for thier ship replacement program, rental empire and super cap sales. I tried to get Dotlan maps to run the same program by offering a plex memebers only section on his maps. Truly I am getting a huge laugh out of this.

The key element for for anyone to run the same program is to have a means of massing large pools of isk. You can do this in game or use a site like somer out of game. I am still waiting for the first pHorn site that offers membership using isk or plex.

As for it being CCP approved. Speaking from first hand knowledge CCP has a problem in communication and the right hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. The fact the CSM wasnt informed speaks volumes to this truth.

So this is basically the same thing they did last year with a couple extra steps to bypass whatever the last ruling was, creating another GTC monopoly and pushing out other GTC retailers by offering perks no one else can match, correct?

All the while converting isk from inside EVE Online the game into real life income dollars.

As for the CSM not knowing about it, come on, you really think CCP runs everything by the CSM?

Here's what you do: If your account is up on Somerblink, quit and don't ever do it again. If your account is down on Somerblink, quit and don't ever do it again.

Problem solved.

Also CCP, you had a CASINO button in station services back in 2003. Bring it back and put Somerblink out of business.

Lets go with the assumption that Somer did indeed go to CCP first and CCP agreed.

First we have no idea whether it was a GM or whether it was somebody higher up who gave the go ahead.

Secondly, to presume that a GM would just give the go ahead without consulting anybody else consider what happened previously with Somer, and presuming that a GM is weak minded enough that they would let themselves be convinced doing something which is against the rules is insulting at best.

I am not sure why you have such a low opinion of the GM's, I personally think they do a great job. Sure they make the odd mistakes but they are human and we all make mistakes from time to time.

After what happened last time it would make sense that Somer approach CCP first. For all we know Somer and CCP have been discussing this for days / Weeks / Months.

You, Me and everybody else has no idea what discussions have taken place if any.

You can get your panties in a twist all you like but you can not change the fact that If Somer did indeed get the okay from CCP then your anger is completely misplaced.

Well from CCPs and the CSMs response it seems like it was not widely discussed, so it's unlikely to have been a dev decision.

No, you take it as an insult, and you suggest I have a low opinion of them, which isn't the case. I simply understand, like you have suggested, that GMs are human, and can be manipulated into making a mistake.

]So if it turns out they raised a petition, and a single GM said it was OK, you think Somer should just get away with it? They know full well it's not allowed, and you shouldn't be able to get away with disregarding the rules whenever you can convince a GM to say "that sounds fine".

It's strange that you would defend someone who is clearly engaging in RMT. You can say it's whining all you want, but they sell ISK for money. That's not allowed. They should be punished. End of story.

Prince, contract all your assets to me, please. CCP totally said you should do it.

Doesn't matter, I cannot let CCP's approval go to waste. Do it, do it now!

So much stupid in this thread.

If it really bothers you then delete your Somer bookmark and go to therapy for your gambling addiction. The only reason Somer is able to do this in the first place is because of all you people that want to get something for nothing.

Stop using the site, FFS! Problem solved.

Mr Epeen

Oh no you didn't!

Frakk, he did...

WTF am I supposed to do with Helium Isotopes?

I haz a plan: I shall become isotopes tycoon and build my empire upon those 1667 units!

HA!

So much stupid in this thread.

If it really bothers you then delete your Somer bookmark and go to therapy for your gambling addiction. The only reason Somer is able to do this in the first place is because of all you people that want to get something for nothing.

Stop using the site, FFS! Problem solved.

Mr Epeen

It this thread bothers you then don't read it.

Stop commenting on this thread, FFS! Problem solved.

Ima Wreckyou

I petitioned the original scheme last October and the reply I got was, to paraphrase, that SOMER has not violated the EULA in any way, to their knowledge.

If this was the case, then yes I do because at the end of the day he was given the go ahead by somebody who works for CCP.

You can not punish a player acting on the advice given to him by somebody who was employed by CCP. To say that a player can be retrospectively punished for doing anything after a CCP employee has said it was okay is well quite frankly stupid.

Your right, I do not agree with what he is doing, If CCP gave this the green light I think that this is a disgrace and to me shows me that CCP will do anything to earn a few extra quid and they have simply gone back to "greed is good" to do this shows a new level of desperation to try and earn a few extra bucks.

However, unlike you my issue is not with Somer in this instance. I say this because I am going on the presumption that he was given the green light by CCP. That is the most important aspect of this situation.

I couldn't care less if it was Somer, Goons, DNS Black or anybody else, that fact is as far as we are aware, CCP said this was okay. That is the Problem here.

[Does the letters R v B give you nightmares?

Here is the thing, you do not have to gamble one isk to get your isk. There is no gambling at all involved this RMT enterprise.

Where do you suppose they got the trillions of liquid ISK to overpay for PLEXes with?

If it weren't for the pathetic dweebs that blow all their ISKies on rigged lottos, none of this would be happening now. Somer as a business would not exist.

Mr Epeen

Tell that to everyone who pushed for Erotica 1 to be banned. Prior to that case multiple petitions had been filed from both sides and scamming people and trolling them on teasmspeak was always allowed since it wasn't in game and the player could at any point disconnect. Cue a rage post, and rules get made then applied retroactively.

That said, this is slightly different, since there's no ambiguity, RMT is not allowed. If you give away isk and in return receive money, that's simply not allowed.

I don't disagree that I CCP sanctioned it then they are at fault and will lose a lot of faith for that. But at the same time, it's clearly an act of RMT. People shouldn't even be trying to engage in that, since it's highly damaging to the game, and if they do, they should be punished, no matter who they are. If this was the first time, then fair enough, benefit of the doubt and all that. But it's not. Swing that banhammer and make sure they, and anyone else considering it, gets the message.