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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.08.21 17:57:00 -
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Hey guys,
Apologies for the downtime we're experiencing right now.
We're working on restoring Tranquility to service, and should have updates on the situation for you soon.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
- F
UPDATES:
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2252
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Posted - 2014.08.21 17:58:00 -
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aye, was kinda going "wtf?" since I was trying to login and there was only 1700 people online [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
798
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:01:00 -
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Give the hamsters some beer, CCP. They are starving! Remove insurance. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
336
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:03:00 -
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So, I am online again .. should I worry or is it all good now ? Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Blaze Arbosa
Empire of the Forsaken Gentlemen's.Club
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:03:00 -
[5] - Quote
Yea... I was trying to play a bit before I had to go to work.
Now I have to like... pay attention to my GF or something... |
McBarnacle
Yggdrasil Belators Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:09:00 -
[6] - Quote
Some bunch of script kiddies called the Lizard Squad reckon they're the ones responsible for knocking EVE offline - amongst others. |
Halitosis Borodov
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:15:00 -
[7] - Quote
In New York City area and still can't get in through I see the number of "pilots online" # in the 18,000 range. |
Ezio di Firenze
Multiplex Gaming The Bastion
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:16:00 -
[8] - Quote
https://twitter.com/LizardSquad/status/502511586259394560
Assholes |
The Midget Ani
GnomeForce
1
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:20:00 -
[9] - Quote
I like the new launcher look though, much more clean and recognizable that way
http://imgur.com/fFpcsbw |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4111
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:24:00 -
[10] - Quote
The Midget Ani wrote: if i wear glasses, they will never suspect a thing mwahahahahahaha. eyes are hard =][= |
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Halitosis Borodov
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:26:00 -
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18:26: 23,000 pilots online and I still can't get on. :( |
Tinydogg
Mining Bay inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:37:00 -
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still can't connect. I am also in New York City |
Alfonso Enton
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:39:00 -
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WHERE IS MY SHIP???!!!!! |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:40:00 -
[14] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys,
Apologies for the downtime we're experiencing right now.
We're working on restoring Tranquility to service, and should have updates on the situation for you soon.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
- F
UPDATES:
UPDATE - 18:10 - SERVICES ARE NOW COMING BACK ONLINE
Cheers guys.
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Boergrine Saissore
Iron Hills Merchant and Trade
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:07:00 -
[15] - Quote
20:00 and still can't get on... I'm in California and haven't been on all day. Was on Sisi earlier and then bam nothing. I haven't been able to log back on either Sisi or Tranquility. I guess I'll just have to be more patient..... (voices whispering, must ignore) |
0wl
Pocket Pirates
40
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:36:00 -
[16] - Quote
Blink rage! lol |
Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
470
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:42:00 -
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0wl wrote:Blink rage! lol
That's what i was thinking.
Some pinhead has a burr up his ass about the whole SOMER thing and decided to take a little action.
Nothing surprises me on here anymore. -áMiko Sunji:-á "There is no better way to find out if you can swim, than swimming for your life."
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Ahazul De'Virr
Shocky Industries Ltd.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:44:00 -
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Hi
What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?
best regards
//Ahazul |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
2731
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:45:00 -
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DDOSsholes gonna DDOSshole. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:53:00 -
[20] - Quote
CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll. |
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1402
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:55:00 -
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RMT guys are mad like hell. The Tears Must Flow |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24014
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:55:00 -
[22] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you? Nope, I wrongly assumed that a multi-million dollar company, that only offers their product online, could actually keep their service online.
So I guess a ddos attack is unstoppable, and this little "hacker" group is pretty much the Chuck Norris of the internet? Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
343
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:11:00 -
[24] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you? Nope, I wrongly assumed that a multi-million dollar company, that only offers their product online, could actually keep their service online. So I guess a ddos attack is unstoppable, and this little "hacker" group is pretty much the Chuck Norris of the internet?
Hi I'm an ignorant internet tough guy that doesn't know how to internet. |
Nimrodion
Globaltech Industries Yulai Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:12:00 -
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SOMER of Rage.. |
Marsha Mallow
1470
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:12:00 -
[26] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote: Nope, I wrongly assumed that a multi-million dollar company, that only offers their product online, could actually keep their service online. As long as you know you're wrong, that's the main thing. DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24014
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:15:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you? Nope Thought as much.
Quote:So I guess a ddos attack is unstoppable No. it just takes some time to stop them. Oh, and just so you know, multi-billion dollar companies running world-spanning distributed services get knocked down by DDOSes. Now that you know this, what do you expect from a minute company such as CCP that relies on the services of others and that (by design) has no redundancies for its core service. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Halancar Azarion
Halancar Azarion Corporation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:15:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack.
to my knowledge its almost impossible to defend againt a DDOS while maintaining services....
but im no expert :) |
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you? Nope Thought as much. Quote:So I guess a ddos attack is unstoppable No. it just takes some time to stop them. Oh, and just so you know, multi- billion dollar companies running world-spanning distributed services get knocked down by DDOSes. Now that you know this, what do you expect from a minute company such as CCP that relies on the services of others and that (by design) has no redundancies for its core service.
Had a nice elegant reply, then the poor programming of the forums ate it, guess that's unstoppable too.
BTW you got a little something brown on your nose there.
Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24014
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:27:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Had a nice elegant reply, then the poor programming of the forums ate it, guess that's unstoppable too. No, it's very easy to stop that from happening.
Quote:BTW you got a little something brown on your nose there. No, that's just you vomiting nonsense so hard that you've managed to corrode your corneas from the splash-back.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
389
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:28:00 -
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Tsk, tsk, Thatt Guy. Behave now. Tippia quite well explained to you why your position is unreasonable. There is no reason to be rude to Tippia. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
7050
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:32:00 -
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Dear Tranquility and Falcon,
Hugs.
Hope you get it resolved. We are often abrasive and demanding, but thanks for your hard work. ~ we're flying high, we're watching the world pass us by ~
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Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:35:00 -
[33] - Quote
Sorry I didn't know that a ddos is the unstoppable beast that haunts the internet and nothing can stop it!
Boy I'm sure glad you cleared that up!
Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3727
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:44:00 -
[34] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I didn't know that a ddos is the unstoppable beast that haunts the internet and nothing can stop it! Boy I'm sure glad you cleared that up!
I instead challenge you to provide a method or an example of one that was able to stop one. The Drake is a Lie |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1565
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:00:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you? Nope, I wrongly assumed that a multi-million dollar company, that only offers their product online, could actually keep their service online. So I guess a ddos attack is unstoppable, and this little "hacker" group is pretty much the Chuck Norris of the internet?
It is literally impossible unless you also own the whoel routing network in the region your company is.... "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Mijou Star
Bladesworn Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:30:00 -
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Sad Face i have.... O well Much Love CCP Looks like you ppl have had a long long few days. |
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:54:00 -
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Oh well, guess nobody wanted to play Eve today anyways...
Going to write a letter about how my credit card companies website got ddos'd so I can't pay sub fee this month.
But I'm sure since CCP can't deliver the product I pay for due to ddos, they will certainly understand when they don't get their payment for the same reason, so I should be good...right?
Yup, I'm sure they will understand. Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll. |
Orny
Shipping Corporation Global ANZUS
7
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:56:00 -
[38] - Quote
Account services is also unavailable |
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:05:00 -
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According to the guy doing the DDoS attacks in EVE and other game servers:
"Why do we do it? Multi-million dollar companies aren't spending your money to ensure your game has good service. DDoS is so old it's funny."
It's business, as always, be it RMT or trying to sell some expensive tool against DDoS, it's pretty easy pretending to be some 14 yo kid scripting in a post here and there, but if you shake enough the light can turn on.
If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1396
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:06:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote: Nope, I wrongly assumed that a multi-million dollar company, that only offers their product online, could actually keep their service online.
DDOS = Distributed Denial of Service
the key part is "Distributed" definition --> see 3.a
What that all means in English
Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of computers are being used to overload CCP's network infrastructure by bombarding it with data transmission requests.
This means legitimate users (that's us btw) cannot access it, because it's overloaded.
You don't prevent these attacks by turning a computer off and back on again.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6040
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:14:00 -
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Wurd!
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:16:00 -
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Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)
/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.
Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll. |
crimsonshank
Percussus Resurgo.
15
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:18:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack.
If the company made that much in revenue don't you think they would hire people who work in the industry and not it's subscriber base *CoughCCPRISE,CCPSOUNDWAVECough*
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Elisk Skyforge
Night Raven Task Force Night Raven Alliance
39
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:23:00 -
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Why are you closed? |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1396
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:24:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)
/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.
Actually I'm ridiculing your ineptitude and stupidity.
I am as I type, still sniggering at your buffoonery.
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Owin Forsyth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:34:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I didn't know that a ddos is the unstoppable beast that haunts the internet and nothing can stop it! Boy I'm sure glad you cleared that up! I instead challenge you to provide a method or an example of one that was able to stop one.
There are several companies that provide DDoS protection, just do a Google search 'DDoS Protection'. One such company is VeriSign, a well known international company.
As far as what one can do in the event of a DDoS attack, you can also try Google and Wikipedia, The info below is a c&p of a small section of that page from Wikipedia. You'll need to go to Wikipedia for more detailed information.
"Handling Defensive responses to denial-of-service attacks typically involves the use of a combination of attack detection, traffic classification and response tools, aiming to block traffic that they identify as illegitimate and allow traffic that they identify as legitimate"
Companies can also buy insurance against such attacks.
DDoS is nothing new, it is quite old school really, and there's lots of information on the net about it, how to prevent it, and how to stop it.
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Zero Vigilant
Titanium Resolve Mobius Confederacy
20
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:52:00 -
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https://twitter.com/LizardSquad/status/502548631204159488
Someone is messing with the wrong people...
One does not simply interrupt our internet spaceships
and I would like to thank CCP for their hard work to ensure that our internet spaceships remain to be a reality. |
nm Kain
The Elite Few Inc. The Methodical Alliance
1
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:52:00 -
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Throughout the day the servers have been terribly unstable and it seems to be continuing into the night. Is CCP going to fix this DDoS crap or are we destined to be unable to play for days? It's seriously not hard to safeguard against a DDoS. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
804
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:56:00 -
[49] - Quote
Owin Forsyth wrote:Xercodo wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I didn't know that a ddos is the unstoppable beast that haunts the internet and nothing can stop it! Boy I'm sure glad you cleared that up! I instead challenge you to provide a method or an example of one that was able to stop one. There are several companies that provide DDoS protection, just do a Google search 'DDoS Protection'. One such company is VeriSign, a well known international company. As far as what one can do in the event of a DDoS attack, you can also try Google and Wikipedia, The info below is a c&p of a small section of that page from Wikipedia. You'll need to go to Wikipedia for more detailed information. "Handling Defensive responses to denial-of-service attacks typically involves the use of a combination of attack detection, traffic classification and response tools, aiming to block traffic that they identify as illegitimate and allow traffic that they identify as legitimate" Companies can also buy insurance against such attacks. DDoS is nothing new, it is quite old school really, and there's lots of information on the net about it, how to prevent it, and how to stop it.
And the last couple of times, most users didn't even notice a hiccup.
Show me a 100% every time guaranteed method. Fluffy Bunny Pic! |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
347
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:02:00 -
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nm Kain wrote:Throughout the day the servers have been terribly unstable and it seems to be continuing into the night. Is CCP going to fix this DDoS crap or are we destined to be unable to play for days? It's seriously not hard to safeguard against a DDoS.
If seriously not hard to safeguard against a DDoS is pulling the plug on your internet connection yes it's not that hard to protect your internet space ship game against a DDoS. That's what one European country did. It was Estonia I think. |
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Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
81
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:10:00 -
[51] - Quote
Everyone here does realize that you can still log in through the 'evefile' in the Bin while the launcher doesn't work right? (Provided that you're not using steam). Server stability is still questionable though. "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Kudoku
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:11:00 -
[52] - Quote
Netan MalDoran wrote:Everyone here does realize that you can still log in through the 'evefile' in the Bin while the launcher doesn't work right? (Provided that you're not using steam). Server stability is still questionable though.
i have steam. i bypass the launcher. :) |
Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
114
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Hi CCP, and fellow internet spaceship friends, Knoxville Tn., reinstalling Eve because of the DDoS attack, makes for a long day when this comes up, and my hat's off to CCP for working so hard to get this taken care of! 07! |
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CCP Falcon
8381
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:32:00 -
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UPDATE - 00:30 - TRANQUILITY IS NOW STABLE AND ACCEPTING CONNECTIONS AGAIN
Hey guys,
TQ is stable again, and should be performing fine.
We're sincerely sorry for the issues that the DDoS attacks caused.
Have a great evening with internet spaceships!
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
389
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:34:00 -
[55] - Quote
You banned Somer yesterday. Coincidence?
#callingitnow |
Parthannun Solette
Prime Forces The Methodical Alliance
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:37:00 -
[56] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:UPDATE - 00:30 - TRANQUILITY IS NOW STABLE AND ACCEPTING CONNECTIONS AGAINHey guys, TQ is stable again, and should be performing fine. We're sincerely sorry for the issues that the DDoS attacks caused. Have a great evening with internet spaceships!
thanks CCP Falcon your awesome |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
347
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:39:00 -
[57] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:UPDATE - 00:30 - TRANQUILITY IS NOW STABLE AND ACCEPTING CONNECTIONS AGAINHey guys, TQ is stable again, and should be performing fine. We're sincerely sorry for the issues that the DDoS attacks caused. Have a great evening with internet spaceships!
Should have announced no SP reimbursement. Because we'll see a flood of entitled jackasses asking for SP because REASONS. |
45thtiger 0109
89
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:39:00 -
[58] - Quote
Ahazul De'Virr wrote:Hi
What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?
best regards
//Ahazul
Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control.
If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships |
45thtiger 0109
89
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:41:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ahazul De'Virr wrote:Hi
What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?
best regards
//Ahazul
Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control.
If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
655
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:41:00 -
[60] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you?
It was a limited DDoS at that. The exefile in the /bin folder still got a connection. |
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mc pizzaflurry
Ground Zero Equipment Pasta Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:44:00 -
[61] - Quote
45thtiger 0109 wrote:Ahazul De'Virr wrote:Hi
What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?
best regards
//Ahazul Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control. If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships
you mean "scriptkiddies"
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
347
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:45:00 -
[62] - Quote
mc pizzaflurry wrote:45thtiger 0109 wrote:Ahazul De'Virr wrote:Hi
What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?
best regards
//Ahazul Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control. If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships you mean "scriptkiddies"
You mean Hackers on Steroids with exploding vans nearby. |
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:50:00 -
[63] - Quote
Owin Forsyth wrote:Xercodo wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I didn't know that a ddos is the unstoppable beast that haunts the internet and nothing can stop it! Boy I'm sure glad you cleared that up! I instead challenge you to provide a method or an example of one that was able to stop one. There are several companies that provide DDoS protection, just do a Google search 'DDoS Protection'. One such company is VeriSign, a well known international company. As far as what one can do in the event of a DDoS attack, you can also try Google and Wikipedia, The info below is a c&p of a small section of that page from Wikipedia. You'll need to go to Wikipedia for more detailed information. "Handling Defensive responses to denial-of-service attacks typically involves the use of a combination of attack detection, traffic classification and response tools, aiming to block traffic that they identify as illegitimate and allow traffic that they identify as legitimate" Companies can also buy insurance against such attacks. DDoS is nothing new, it is quite old school really, and there's lots of information on the net about it, how to prevent it, and how to stop it.
Yeah, you can call +1-703-763-4544 for a fast response in UK from VeriSign or spend between 120,000 up to 8 million dollars on some hardware from Arbor, depending on how much you want to spend, how much you have and how important is your internet business.
Old school but, still, effective against some, I guess.
If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |
Thegasp Cupcakes
CareBears Gone Dark Pina Colada Armada
9
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:55:00 -
[64] - Quote
This is basically what happens durring a DDoS attack, for the ones who simply don't get it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlWZZSD4irM
(yes, it is the right video.. wait until the end.) |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4237
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:56:00 -
[65] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)
/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.
After reading your posts, one could be forgiven for suspecting you of being the script kiddie responsible for the attacks, attempting to use ideology to justify them but knowing deep down that you just want some attention. Whether that's true or not, people pay money to play this game not because they don't have a choice, not because the company makes them, but because they want to. Whether someone is trying to send an ideological message or just make CCP look bad, the question of whether or not they should be able to defend against a DDOS is irrelevant next to the more pertinent question of what sort of shitstain makes an attack against gamers like this in the first place? GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:59:00 -
[66] - Quote
I think CCP handed this one in record time compared to the ones around 14 months ago, around the time Odyssey launched. They dealt with some DDoSholes back then, too. Business and game went on as normal after that. It will go on as normal after this as well.
I find it amusing that it takes DDoS attacks to bring this game offline, when I know plenty of MMORPGs out there that crash and have to be reset on their own due to faults in their code. CCP is pretty damn good about keeping that sort of thing away from their game and us, their customers. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9008
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 00:59:00 -
[67] - Quote
Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.
There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 01:07:00 -
[68] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.
You know, I have to wonder who's pulling on your chain. You seem really eager to support those attacking this company and this game, and really eager to attack those of us who are still loyal to a form of entertainment we enjoy. Jealous of us much? |
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
142
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 01:10:00 -
[69] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.
There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works.
I'm only a random NPC Alt, my opinion doesn't matter.
If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |
Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.08.22 01:12:00 -
[70] - Quote
Bloody Slave wrote:I'm only a random NPC Alt, my opinion doesn't matter. Wow, dude, I just have to say it... Nice stache! |
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
655
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 01:14:00 -
[71] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.
There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works.
Signed data packets could be filtered and everything else rejected. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
28
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Posted - 2014.08.22 01:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
for people who want to learn the details about DDoS attacks go here http://www.incapsula.com/ddos/ddos-attacks/ I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Kudoku
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 01:50:00 -
[73] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.
There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works.
DoS is oldschool. DDoS is newer. the thing that most people don't realize, is that DDoS is a blanket term for a type of attack. the actual mechanics of the attack evolve constantly whenever an amplification exploit is discovered. |
Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
131
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 01:53:00 -
[74] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Oh well, guess nobody wanted to play Eve today anyways...
Going to write a letter about how my credit card companies website got ddos'd so I can't pay sub fee this month.
But I'm sure since CCP can't deliver the product I pay for due to ddos, they will certainly understand when they don't get their payment for the same reason, so I should be good...right?
Yup, I'm sure they will understand.
Soo......
...
Can...
Can I have your stuff? I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
28
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:03:00 -
[75] - Quote
you can see when the attacks happend
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
first you see downtime and then u see the attacks I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
45thtiger 0109
89
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
mc pizzaflurry wrote:45thtiger 0109 wrote:Ahazul De'Virr wrote:Hi
What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?
best regards
//Ahazul Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control. If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships you mean "scriptkiddies"
Yes I do mean that as well "scriptkiddies" |
45thtiger 0109
89
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:17:00 -
[77] - Quote
Yang Aurilen wrote:mc pizzaflurry wrote:45thtiger 0109 wrote:Ahazul De'Virr wrote:Hi
What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?
best regards
//Ahazul Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control. If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships you mean "scriptkiddies" You mean Hackers on Steroids with exploding vans nearby.
lolled |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11271
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:26:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:reinstalling Eve because of the DDoS attack You're dumb. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Kudoku
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 02:29:00 -
[79] - Quote
this is what it looked like from LA. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9008
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 02:48:00 -
[80] - Quote
Kudoku wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.
There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works. DoS is oldschool. DDoS is newer. the thing that most people don't realize, is that DDoS is a blanket term for a type of attack. the actual mechanics of the attack evolve constantly whenever an amplification exploit is discovered.
Really? I've been hearing "DDos" as a term for about ten years... I learned it in college, and that was a while ago. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1019
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 02:57:00 -
[81] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP should read it too, it has some clues on how to prevent most of them Yes, read the advertising blurb of people whose counter to an overabundance of traffic is an overabundance of servers.
Real impressive. [witty image] |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5347
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 03:15:00 -
[82] - Quote
For a while there I thought that volcano blew and took CCP with it. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
28
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Posted - 2014.08.22 04:25:00 -
[83] - Quote
explain the graph please? I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Darkblad
Hilfe is like Free Entertainment
438
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Posted - 2014.08.22 05:53:00 -
[84] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:explain the graph please? Ping response time is high at the start (around 10:20 to 10:40), with 350+ seconds in the worst case, up to 20 lost ping packages (marked red). Then no Ping response (or no pings happened) from 13:00 to 16:20, when responses happened again, with initially 10 to 20 lost packages (marked pink).
EVE Infolinks -+-áOld and new-áPortraits |
Whittorical Quandary
The Asteroid is Depleted Cucarachas Enojadas
9
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:12:00 -
[85] - Quote
Ugh, this is forcing me to be depressingly productive in RL XD A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
29
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:13:00 -
[86] - Quote
AND HERE WE GO AGAIN! I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
7205
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:13:00 -
[87] - Quote
Looks like TQ just dropped everyone?
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Player statistics Server status Currently online:0Health:Server is down ~ we're flying high, we're watching the world pass us by ~
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TharOkha
0asis Group
918
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:13:00 -
[88] - Quote
...and here we go again
I want to burn those script kiddies,..... slowly and painfully CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell |
Fumungus Skywalker
The Newborn Guardians of Space
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:14:00 -
[89] - Quote
Again ???.
I was fighting NPC am i going to lose my ship ?? |
savalania
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:16:00 -
[90] - Quote
guess we aint done with this mess yet |
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
29
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:16:00 -
[91] - Quote
Fumungus Skywalker wrote:Again ???.
I was fighting NPC am i going to lose my ship ?? petition to ccp if u do I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Shanur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:16:00 -
[92] - Quote
Fumungus Skywalker wrote:Again ???.
I was fighting NPC am i going to lose my ship ??
If there were scramblers still up, or you were fighting in a marauder, yes, probably. Otherwise you should warp out as soon as the server detects the disconnect.
Looks like i'll be running anomalies in a frigate for a while. At least until things cool down again. |
krazyskillz
Danneskjold Shipping Chained Reactions
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:18:00 -
[93] - Quote
Oh... there is nothing like flying through your static WH in your POD when the server craps out on you. |
Fumungus Skywalker
The Newborn Guardians of Space
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:19:00 -
[94] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:Fumungus Skywalker wrote:Again ???.
I was fighting NPC am i going to lose my ship ?? petition to ccp if u do
Ty ;).
Shanur ty too, i read it after writting
I hope my drones still defending me while server off . Was only one cruiser. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
29
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:22:00 -
[95] - Quote
Fumungus Skywalker wrote:Daniel Jackson wrote:Fumungus Skywalker wrote:Again ???.
I was fighting NPC am i going to lose my ship ?? petition to ccp if u do Ty ;). Shanur ty too, i read it after writting I hope my drones still defending me while server off . Was only one cruiser. ccp does infact reimburse you for these unexpected downtimes if u lose something cause of it I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Truzie
Republic Industrial
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:22:00 -
[96] - Quote
Haven't seen such a successful DDos in a long time. Sucks that its skrewing with my chillax time, but still, thought this was a thing of the past. |
Zappity
Estel Arador Corp Services Estel Arador Capsuleer Services
1298
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:24:00 -
[97] - Quote
krazyskillz wrote:Oh... there is nothing like flying through your static WH in your POD when the server craps out on you. Wormholes are MEANT to be unpredictable. Obviously a feature. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
940
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:24:00 -
[98] - Quote
I've been informed that China has an intranet rather than internet access. If this is so, why hasn't one or a group of these insignificant turkeys ever performed a DDoS attack or something similar on China? Because they think small? Because they have no idea? Because setting it up might interrupt the sitting and snacking usually associated with hacking? Srs question btw.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Thegasp Cupcakes
CareBears Gone Dark Pina Colada Armada
9
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:25:00 -
[99] - Quote
Zappity wrote:krazyskillz wrote:Oh... there is nothing like flying through your static WH in your POD when the server craps out on you. Wormholes are MEANT to be unpredictable. Obviously a feature.
Always carry probes! |
Quantum Andomer
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:29:00 -
[100] - Quote
Thegasp Cupcakes wrote:Zappity wrote:krazyskillz wrote:Oh... there is nothing like flying through your static WH in your POD when the server craps out on you. Wormholes are MEANT to be unpredictable. Obviously a feature. Always carry probes!
In his pod! If only! |
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Andris Arickson
Event Horizon Expeditionaries Apocalypse Now.
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:29:00 -
[101] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)
/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.
Wow .. this guy is hilarious, made me lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
31
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:30:00 -
[102] - Quote
http://eve-offline.net/ abbadon nyan cat posted as server announcement LOL I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Shanur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:31:00 -
[103] - Quote
Fumungus Skywalker wrote: I hope my drones still defending me while server off . Was only one cruiser.
Since you will probably warp off, your drones will have disconnected and either be eaten up by the NPC rats, or decayed (if the downtime is similar to the big one last night).
If they were T1's, just eat the loss. A single L2 should cover their replacement. If they were T2's, you may want to try a petition on them.
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Smoke Initup
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:32:00 -
[104] - Quote
I was about to drop an Orbital and obliterate some Dust bunnies hope the server isn't down for long I have nothing to do. I guess I will be Smoke Initup till tranquility is back on or till I pass out |
Maichin Civire
New Eden Possibilities
73
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:33:00 -
[105] - Quote
Shanur wrote:Fumungus Skywalker wrote: I hope my drones still defending me while server off . Was only one cruiser.
Since you will probably warp off, your drones will have disconnected and either be eaten up by the NPC rats, or decayed (if the downtime is similar to the big one last night). If they were T1's, just eat the loss. A single L2 should cover their replacement. If they were T2's, you may want to try a petition on them. And what if he've had full set of augmented medium drones? http://quietrebelwriting.blogspot.com/
- my little blog about one of the worst blogs about EVE Online. |
Grimfang Wyrmspawn
S0utherN Comfort DARKNESS.
19
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:35:00 -
[106] - Quote
I was going to ask if it was happening again, but I think the question has been answered.
AND the CCP\bin\exefile isn't working either. |
Fumungus Skywalker
The Newborn Guardians of Space
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:35:00 -
[107] - Quote
Shanur wrote:Fumungus Skywalker wrote: I hope my drones still defending me while server off . Was only one cruiser.
Since you will probably warp off, your drones will have disconnected and either be eaten up by the NPC rats, or decayed (if the downtime is similar to the big one last night). If they were T1's, just eat the loss. A single L2 should cover their replacement. If they were T2's, you may want to try a petition on them.
Was T1 but dominix and rigged. Maybe more than 250 mill. I will make petition,
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DarkanZ
Interstellar Vagabonds
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:38:00 -
[108] - Quote
Nyanaddon :)
p.s. Is CCP going to return lost probes to WH people? |
bear114
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
9
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:46:00 -
[109] - Quote
Damn it, Servers still down.
Now I have to talk to my kids......! |
Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
154
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:53:00 -
[110] - Quote
cough, cough, i guess there's no relation with the last So...gate, cough...cough... WTS BPO : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307169 |
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Whittorical Quandary
The Asteroid is Depleted Cucarachas Enojadas
9
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 06:53:00 -
[111] - Quote
Thegasp Cupcakes wrote:Zappity wrote:krazyskillz wrote:Oh... there is nothing like flying through your static WH in your POD when the server craps out on you. Wormholes are MEANT to be unpredictable. Obviously a feature. Always carry probes!
The new DDOS wormhole environments can be brutal. ;p
That said, probably put in a ticket if stuck when this clears up. A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12727
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:59:00 -
[112] - Quote
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Faressa
BLUE ORDER
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:00:00 -
[113] - Quote
Come on CCP Any update on the situation would be appreciated ? Customers appreciate the regular info if it is bad news at least it shows there is actually someone listening and communicates your doing your best to resolve the situation ( which I am sure is the case) :0
A little humour and calming of those whom need their eve fix goes a long way during crisis down times. Word up if you agree. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1860
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:00:00 -
[114] - Quote
Someone divided by Jovian.... what have I told you all about that? That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Tara Read
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
751
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:00:00 -
[115] - Quote
Thank You for locking the other thread CCP Falcon. It was going nowhere real fast. Visit my blog for all the latest in jeers and tears as well as news at http://hoistthecolors.org |
Maichin Civire
New Eden Possibilities
73
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:02:00 -
[116] - Quote
Jarod Garamonde wrote:Someone divided by Jovian.... what have I told you all about that? The who? http://quietrebelwriting.blogspot.com/
- my little blog about one of the worst blogs about EVE Online. |
Matt 008-2014-017
New Worlds Order Plc.
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:04:00 -
[117] - Quote
Its still down for me I'm in Washington State. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9012
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:05:00 -
[118] - Quote
Maichin Civire wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Someone divided by Jovian.... what have I told you all about that? The who?
No, a different band. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
844
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:05:00 -
[119] - Quote
Good luck on getting things back up and running, CCP - until then, thanks to conversation with a friend today I have plugged in my old Commodore 64 and am enjoying some truly retro gaming until I can again log in and pew pew pew all the spaceships :)
Thanks again for all the hard work, CCP. I know how hard random DDoS attacks can be to mitigate, and have spent quite a few hours trying to deal with them on behalf of my customers in the past. :)
Again, to mention - any players who take losses or anything due to this, just file a support ticket and give CCP as much information as you can - pretend that you are the actual real life human who has to read it. Be nice. Give them proper links to the information they need to deal with your loss quickly so they can move onto the next report. Give them a polite thank you when the issue is resolved. You'll be amazed what a little bit of human decency can result in. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
850
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:07:00 -
[120] - Quote
Faressa wrote:Come on CCP Any update on the situation would be appreciated ? Customers appreciate the regular info if it is bad news at least it shows there is actually someone listening and communicates your doing your best to resolve the situation ( which I am sure is the case) :0
A little humour and calming of those whom need their eve fix goes a long way during crisis down times. Word up if you agree.
Of course they are working on resolving the situation. Every moment they spend giving updates that state what we all already know is a moment they are unable to spend working on the issue.
Just be patient, fire up a movie or another video game for a bit, and before you know it you will be back in internet spaceship land! |
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DeWieKat
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:07:00 -
[121] - Quote
Chinese Cybor Army again... :) |
Carmen Electra
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
2088
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:08:00 -
[122] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. Sure they can. By blocking all connections.
Oh wait... eve is dying |
Sharron Yinari
Serenity Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:09:00 -
[123] - Quote
I come home from a hard day at work, ready to blow up spaceships, and servers are offline what am I supposed to do now lol |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
850
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:09:00 -
[124] - Quote
Tara Read wrote:Thank You for locking the other thread CCP Falcon. It was going nowhere real fast.
Yeah, the creepy rampant homophobia and players literally calling for the real life death or torture of random people who make the silly decision to launch denial of service attacks against a video game was getting a bit of hand :(
Like, internet spaceships are serious business - but I really don't want to see another human being killed or tortured over being silly enough to purchase some random time on a botnet and DDoS a video game. |
Mhari Dson
Lazy Brothers Inc
114
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:10:00 -
[125] - Quote
Considering this one happened basically while everyone was headed into the office for the morning, we should see some action relatively soon. |
DarkanZ
Interstellar Vagabonds
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:10:00 -
[126] - Quote
hamesters, more hamsters |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
850
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:11:00 -
[127] - Quote
Carmen Electra wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack. Sure they can. By blocking all connections. Oh wait...
DO not introduce how the internet actually works in this way, it will never result in any effect as it requires taking a hour or two away from a video game to wiki networking 101.
Just stick with this.
IT IS SUPER EFFECTIVE |
Mhari Dson
Lazy Brothers Inc
114
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:11:00 -
[128] - Quote
DarkanZ wrote:hamesters, more hamsters
give a couple of 'em some 5hour energy to get it rebooted ^.^ |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11294
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:11:00 -
[129] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Tara Read wrote:Thank You for locking the other thread CCP Falcon. It was going nowhere real fast. Yeah, the creepy rampant homophobia and players literally calling for the real life death or torture of random people who make the silly decision to launch denial of service attacks against a video game was getting a bit of hand :( Like, internet spaceships are serious business - but I really don't want to see another human being killed or tortured over being silly enough to purchase some random time on a botnet and DDoS a video game. I can't say I'd mind them seeing jail time (not really just for EVE but for everything they've hit), but torture is pretty extreme. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Thegasp Cupcakes
CareBears Gone Dark Pina Colada Armada
10
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:12:00 -
[130] - Quote
Sharron Yinari wrote:I come home from a hard day at work, ready to blow up spaceships, and servers are offline what am I supposed to do now lol
Someone already blew them all up =< |
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
850
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:12:00 -
[131] - Quote
Sharron Yinari wrote:I come home from a hard day at work, ready to blow up spaceships, and servers are offline what am I supposed to do now lol
Just chill for a bit, this has been going on all day and CCP's response time has been nothing short of awesome. Rest assured that with a network of this size, people are aware of the issue and are taking steps to resolve it. |
Lemanik
The Kanye West Foundation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:12:00 -
[132] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Tara Read wrote:Thank You for locking the other thread CCP Falcon. It was going nowhere real fast. Yeah, the creepy rampant homophobia and players literally calling for the real life death or torture of random people who make the silly decision to launch denial of service attacks against a video game was getting a bit of hand :( Like, internet spaceships are serious business - but I really don't want to see another human being killed or tortured over being silly enough to purchase some random time on a botnet and DDoS a video game. Thread made me wanna watch Continuum & Girl With the Dragon Tattoo |
Ragnarock Zero
Prison Shank Dispensaries Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:13:00 -
[133] - Quote
So I was just wondering why it says there are 2 Pilots online in tranquility are those the hackers or the Devs? |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1138
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:14:00 -
[134] - Quote
Ragnarock Zero wrote:So I was just wondering why it says there are 2 Pilots online in tranquility are those the hackers or the Devs? Maybe one of each battling it out |
Luna Moses
Sigma-Six Aegis Solaris
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:14:00 -
[135] - Quote
Thank you for the update CCP - CCP Falcon - I hope you guys managed to get some sleep between attacks! |
Hakaari Uisen
Legion of the Southern Cross
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:14:00 -
[136] - Quote
Not again, I have ships to fit out!! :-) Feed your hamsters CCP. Any idea on the cause this time? |
Distuth Brinalle
Wraith.Wing
13
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:15:00 -
[137] - Quote
Does this mean Happy Space Murder Time is cancelled for the night? |
Sharron Yinari
Serenity Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:16:00 -
[138] - Quote
Ragnarock Zero wrote:So I was just wondering why it says there are 2 Pilots online in tranquility are those the hackers or the Devs? For those who don't know, DDoS attacks are someone betting a bunch of proxys and connecting/pinging the server very fast, causing it to lag, then crash, the culprits do not need to be in the game, at all to do such a horrible deed, they just need the I.P address of the server... |
Whittorical Quandary
The Asteroid is Depleted Cucarachas Enojadas
9
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:16:00 -
[139] - Quote
I wonder if as part of authenticating the game client for log in, they could require a detected up to date anti-virus detection. A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
32
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:16:00 -
[140] - Quote
play this while your waiting for servers to come back up EVE-OFFLINE I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
852
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:16:00 -
[141] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote: I can't say I'd mind them seeing jail time (not really just for EVE but for everything they've hit), but torture is pretty extreme.
Ehhh, I find jail for DDoS to be a little bit extreme (if only due to the fact that the same laws are used to throw people using DDoS as a form of political protest into jail) - I think a more rational response is just adapting to these attacks, improving ones network to prevent similar attacks in the future, and determining the origin of said attacks and preventing access to the network from that point of origin in the future.
My point of view, however, is affected by being a citizen of a country where we have seen DDoS attacks actually result in changes that have made the world a better place.
DDoSing a video game just to shake ones e-peen, however, is quite silly. Worth jail time silly? Nah. It's not like there's some serious political message or protest message to be gained by annoying people who play a video game :P
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Pure Sacrifice
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
14
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:17:00 -
[142] - Quote
dude... why hasnt somerblink delivered my winnings to jita yet..its been over 2 hours http://i.imgur.com/PKVonst.png |
xplayman
The Wraiths
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:18:00 -
[143] - Quote
Noooo... I lost my drones in space. The first time I got disconnected tonight my drones ended up back in my drone bay. We'll see this second time tonight.
In the past when I got disconnected from the serve the drones would still be floating helplessly in space. |
Patrick TARPON
Lords Of Anarchy
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:18:00 -
[144] - Quote
what is a DDOS attack ?
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Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:19:00 -
[145] - Quote
Could be worse could of happened during ATXII |
evolution666
Shady Investments Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:19:00 -
[146] - Quote
I'm seriously getting tired of all these unscheduled downtimes. Make the server stable or loose players.....simple. |
SF BrooD
Star of Jantir
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:19:00 -
[147] - Quote
im so sad right now :(
i wanna pew pew |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
627
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:20:00 -
[148] - Quote
Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ddos |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
102
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:20:00 -
[149] - Quote
I lost my probes just now :( why ccp why |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
276
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:21:00 -
[150] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:[quote=James Amril-Kesh]
Ehhh, I find jail for DDoS to be a little bit extreme
I don't.
I hope CCP can convey their financial losses to that these idiots can pay for it with jail time if caught. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
354
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:21:00 -
[151] - Quote
CCP I'm experiencing EVE withdrawal symptoms. Logging in once every week usually takes it away but now I cannot log in. Call my doctor I won't make i |
Sharron Yinari
Serenity Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:22:00 -
[152] - Quote
Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
Direct Denial of Service
Imagine the Eve Server can handle a maximum X internet connections
and a someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash |
Hakaari Uisen
Legion of the Southern Cross
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:22:00 -
[153] - Quote
Who are the 2 pilots currently logged in?? |
Aeydan Condit
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:22:00 -
[154] - Quote
My hauler is stuck in space, halp. |
Ganjjabeard
The Night Crew The Night Crew Alliance
51
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:22:00 -
[155] - Quote
evolution666 wrote:I'm seriously getting tired of all these unscheduled downtimes. Make the server stable or loose players.....simple.
do you know that CCP's servers are under DDoS attack at the moment? For once its not their fault so quit your bitching GET IN THE VAN |
Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
16
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:23:00 -
[156] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote: UPDATES - 22/08/2014:
UPDATE 06:55 - TRANQUILITY IS ONCE AGAIN EXPERIENCING ISSUES - WE ARE INVESTIGATING
Good thing clones don't need sleep and can work on solving issues 24/7. If you feel exhausted, just use a new jump-clone... or maybe you did already.
You guys do have jump-clones @ccp_headquarter, don't you?
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Agent Kailethre
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
59
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:23:00 -
[157] - Quote
I for one welcome our new lizard overlords. i think i am pretty kawaii =333 |
Starpoint9
Purging Maelstrom That Escalated Quickly.
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:23:00 -
[158] - Quote
So lets say when the server went down this most recent time and I had just jumped out of my wormhole to see where the wormhole went and launched probes and then poof! I have to go and will likely not be able to login for a while leaving me stuck outside my WH. (If the probes have not already expired they will soon) Can I petition this so I can get back into my WH and get my probes back considering that it isnt my fault that the servers went down? I would understand a petition for this being denied if I jumped out and logged off of my own accord; but I have no control over this...
I have a bad feeling about this.. |
Maya Zeal
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:23:00 -
[159] - Quote
While waiting I wrote a haiku for EVE.
My spaceship goes boom so I dock, and am safe now then my game goes boom
Good luck CCP |
Chequrself
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:24:00 -
[160] - Quote
Update any time soon? |
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Verrnock Altol
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:25:00 -
[161] - Quote
Sharron Yinari wrote:Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
Direct Denial of Service If someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash
Google is your friend. You should probably use it before you start spouting off incorrect information. |
Ruck4s
Under Dog Industries
11
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:25:00 -
[162] - Quote
Party in the comms closet |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
33
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:25:00 -
[163] - Quote
SF BrooD wrote:im so sad right now :(
i wanna pew pew go here m8 EVE-Offline the game I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Dangra Mu'zgob
Parasitic Trading Systems
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:25:00 -
[164] - Quote
Agent Kailethre wrote:I for one welcome our new lizard overlords. +1 Trading for living / living for trading.
Alt of Shangra Mu'zgob |
Shin Obad-Hai
Hungarian Astronaut Department
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:25:00 -
[165] - Quote
The timing is too suspicious to be a coincidence. Putting together the closing of somer Blink and the repeated DDoS attacks may be not just conspiracy theory. The attacks will not solve the lottery's case, but someone is thinking he have to revenge something what was not his at the first place anyway.
Hakaari Uisen wrote:Not again, I have ships to fit out!! :-) Feed your hamsters CCP. Any idea on the cause this time?
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
852
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:26:00 -
[166] - Quote
Whittorical Quandary wrote:I wonder if as part of authenticating the game client for log in, they could require a detected up to date anti-virus detection.
No, no, no, no no.
This makes no sense.
This has nothing to do with some form of malicious code effective the server - it's simply a DDoS attack. To help you make sense of this, consider this example.
I find 5 million random people to load any web page, and get them all to load it up. I then, at the count of three, instruct them all to press the refresh button as often as possible, as quick as they can.
The result - the server that actually hosts that web page is unable to deal with that kind of traffic, and many people become unable to access that server in the first place - or in the worst case scenario, the server itself is literally so overwhelmed that it ceases to function until it is rebooted and everyone stops flooding it with so many requests.
A DDoS attack does not really require this kind of effort, however - in most cases it simply requires writing a quick script that does the same thing (floods a server with as many requests as possible as quickly as possible) - and then taking advantage of having other systems that the attacker can use to repeat this action.
Sure, many of the systems involved in botnet attacks like this are probably infected with something - but think of the average Windows user - their system is probably "infected" with at laest twenty random malware packages that they are not even aware of in the first place, half of these people probably stole a copy of their OS from some random torrent site and have been rootkitted from day one (And no "anti-virus" is going to help you, a proper root-kit runs before the OS itself even boots, making it mostly silly to even consider the possibility of detected said rootkit via the OS).... Also, not to mention, what happens to me when my Linux systems suddenly require a windows based anti-virus tool to verify that I should be allowed to log into EVE? Not seeing that as something that is going to work very well :P
The reality is, DDoS attacks like this are just part of how the internet works - and as the ISP's (CCP buys their bandwidth from a ISP, just like the rest of us!) experience more of these attacks, the infrastructure improves, patches get deployed, routers get smarter, and things get better :P Just snag a beer, chillax, and rest happy knowing EVE will be back soon. It always is :P
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
33
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:26:00 -
[167] - Quote
Verrnock Altol wrote:Sharron Yinari wrote:Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
Direct Denial of Service If someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash Google is your friend. You should probably use it before you start spouting off incorrect information. its Distributed Denial of Service I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Brahan Seer
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
19
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:26:00 -
[168] - Quote
ddos mhmm probably more like a syn attack or your ARP tables got wrecked. WTB carrier grade hardware k thx. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2255
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:27:00 -
[169] - Quote
lemme add a bit to the discussion:
Quote:DDoS mitigation is a set of techniques for resisting distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks on networks attached to the Internet by protecting the target and relay networks.[1] This is done by passing network traffic addressed to the attacked network through high-capacity networks with "traffic scrubbing" filters.[2] DDoS mitigation requires correctly identifying incoming traffic to separate human traffic from human-like bots and hijacked browsers.[3] The process is done by comparing signatures and examining different attributes of the traffic, including IP addresses, cookie variations, http headers, and Javascript footprints.[3]
Manual DDoS mitigation is no longer recommended due to DDoS attackers being able to circumvent DDoS mitigation software that is activated manually.[4] Best practices for DDoS mitigation include having both anti-DDoS technology and anti-DDoS emergency response services.[4] DDoS mitigation is also available through cloud-based providers.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigation
so, you can't stop it. you can only mitigate it, since you will need up to serious hardware (or, up to military level), depending on how hard it is, how fast, and how long it lasts. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
AWACS Sgt
A.W.A.C.S
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:27:00 -
[170] - Quote
evolution666 wrote:I'm seriously getting tired of all these unscheduled downtimes. Make the server stable or loose players.....simple.
relax bro, ccp is on the case
it dosent help to scream at someone being interweb attacked, like me telling ya to get to work when you're sick in bed. |
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Ganjjabeard
The Night Crew The Night Crew Alliance
51
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:27:00 -
[171] - Quote
Verrnock Altol wrote:Sharron Yinari wrote:Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
Direct Denial of Service If someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash Google is your friend. You should probably use it before you start spouting off incorrect information.
what part of what he said was actually wrong? that is pretty much what a DDoS attack is... a bunch of machines pinging the server a bunch of times until it crashes... im sure its more complicated than that but generally thats whats going on GET IN THE VAN |
Ganjjabeard
The Night Crew The Night Crew Alliance
51
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:28:00 -
[172] - Quote
im sure this has something to do with the somer blink ban thing... GET IN THE VAN |
Sharron Yinari
Serenity Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:28:00 -
[173] - Quote
Verrnock Altol wrote:Sharron Yinari wrote:Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
Direct Denial of Service If someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash Google is your friend. You should probably use it before you start spouting off incorrect information.
dude I had to deal with ddos attacks on another game where we owned the server...I know what im talking about, it might not be fancy techno babble, but it gets the point across that someone creates a bunch of fast sending connections to the server causing the server to constantly process those packets of information, causing to lag, then crash... |
LTC Vuvovich
LTC Vuvovich Corporation
38
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:28:00 -
[174] - Quote
Addicted to Eve ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE
Enjoy... |
111010110
The Darwin Initiative
30
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:29:00 -
[175] - Quote
So .. rise of the machines? |
StarLord Thellere
Independant Praetorian Corp
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:29:00 -
[176] - Quote
Listen, everyone, you should not post onto the twitter of these so called hackers(So pr0 using ddos like a 2 year old), they just want attention because they are sad little individuals that have nothing better to do than bring down a game. |
Malina Tomowy
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:30:00 -
[177] - Quote
can we get an update please? twitter says to come here for updates. |
SF BrooD
Star of Jantir
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:30:00 -
[178] - Quote
Hakaari Uisen wrote:Who are the 2 pilots currently logged in??
i think its the guys behind the attacks!.... they must be taking all the combat sites as we speak!
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Steadly Sol
Steadly Sprockets
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:30:00 -
[179] - Quote
Grimpak wrote:lemme add a bit to the discussion: Quote:DDoS mitigation is a set of techniques for resisting distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks on networks attached to the Internet by protecting the target and relay networks.[1] This is done by passing network traffic addressed to the attacked network through high-capacity networks with "traffic scrubbing" filters.[2] DDoS mitigation requires correctly identifying incoming traffic to separate human traffic from human-like bots and hijacked browsers.[3] The process is done by comparing signatures and examining different attributes of the traffic, including IP addresses, cookie variations, http headers, and Javascript footprints.[3]
Manual DDoS mitigation is no longer recommended due to DDoS attackers being able to circumvent DDoS mitigation software that is activated manually.[4] Best practices for DDoS mitigation include having both anti-DDoS technology and anti-DDoS emergency response services.[4] DDoS mitigation is also available through cloud-based providers.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigationso, you can't stop it. you can only mitigate it, since you will need up to serious hardware (or, up to military level), depending on how hard it is, how fast, and how long it lasts.
they have the military grade hardware. :)
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ale rico
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
7
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:30:00 -
[180] - Quote
We were in the middle of a fight when this happened -.- |
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Veetor Nara
WE FIGHT
7
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:30:00 -
[181] - Quote
It's down again. |
Verrnock Altol
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:31:00 -
[182] - Quote
Sharron Yinari wrote:Verrnock Altol wrote:Sharron Yinari wrote:Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
Direct Denial of Service If someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash Google is your friend. You should probably use it before you start spouting off incorrect information. dude I had to deal with ddos attacks on another game where we owned the server...I know what im talking about, it might not be fancy techno babble, but it gets the point across that someone creates a bunch of fast sending connections to the server causing the server to constantly process those packets of information, causing to lag, then crash...
"Distributed Denial of Service"
Renting proxy's has nothing to do with it. There are no "pings" involved.
Basically, Not a damn thing you said is correct...... |
Lemanik
The Kanye West Foundation
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:31:00 -
[183] - Quote
will not sleep until servers back
will not sleep when servers back |
Auron Sol
The Tax Dodger
1
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:31:00 -
[184] - Quote
Jail time for this? YES! .. making a political statement through DDoS is one thing but ******* with peoples personal lives (be it they're game time, they're internet viewing or any other internet related activity) for the purpose of *****'n'giggles its not far off being classified as torture which is illegal and punishable by prison time .. so yeah jail time for the *******/s pulling this **** is a small price to pay .. me personally with my overkill attitude i would stick them in a hot box in the middle of the desert with loud speakers playing the phrase "it is NOT ok to **** with peoples personal lives on repeat for 7 days ... and if they did it again bullet to the head straight up! |
Avaelica Kuershin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:32:00 -
[185] - Quote
Shin Obad-Hai wrote:The timing is too suspicious to be a coincidence. Putting together the closing of somer Blink and the repeated DDoS attacks may be not just conspiracy theory. The attacks will not solve the lottery's case, but someone is thinking he have to revenge something what was not his at the first place anyway. Hakaari Uisen wrote:Not again, I have ships to fit out!! :-) Feed your hamsters CCP. Any idea on the cause this time?
Not when some other games have been affected.
Sounds like someone's found a new service to abuse. |
Brahan Seer
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
19
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:32:00 -
[186] - Quote
Steadly Sol wrote:Grimpak wrote:lemme add a bit to the discussion: Quote:DDoS mitigation is a set of techniques for resisting distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks on networks attached to the Internet by protecting the target and relay networks.[1] This is done by passing network traffic addressed to the attacked network through high-capacity networks with "traffic scrubbing" filters.[2] DDoS mitigation requires correctly identifying incoming traffic to separate human traffic from human-like bots and hijacked browsers.[3] The process is done by comparing signatures and examining different attributes of the traffic, including IP addresses, cookie variations, http headers, and Javascript footprints.[3]
Manual DDoS mitigation is no longer recommended due to DDoS attackers being able to circumvent DDoS mitigation software that is activated manually.[4] Best practices for DDoS mitigation include having both anti-DDoS technology and anti-DDoS emergency response services.[4] DDoS mitigation is also available through cloud-based providers.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigationso, you can't stop it. you can only mitigate it, since you will need up to serious hardware (or, up to military level), depending on how hard it is, how fast, and how long it lasts. they have the military grade hardware. :)
Let me tell you what "military grade" means. Its a set of standards for equipment that meets military specification. it does not mean its some sort of end all be all badass hardware. You can get MSI/Gigabyte/Asus mobo's that are "military grade" what you want is carrier grade when we talk about networking solutions. |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
186
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:32:00 -
[187] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)
/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.
Blizzard is over there. Have fun! |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
33
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:33:00 -
[188] - Quote
111010110 wrote:So .. rise of the machines? yes I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
caesarwulf Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:34:00 -
[189] - Quote
The true reality is that a lot of people don't have the time to deal with this crap from some disgusting little sit who thinks that because he can shut down a game he's a badass. These DDoS attacks are costing me time playing a game I pay for and don't have all day to sit here trying to log in. Some people have responsibilities and would like the chance to use their free tim in a relaxing manner, like playing a game that they find to be fun and challenging. These asshats who think that because they can do something they should need to get their teeth knocked out, and when they whine and ask "Why?" get told "Because I could.zzzzzzz' |
OldWolf69
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
144
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:35:00 -
[190] - Quote
Ganjjabeard wrote:im sure this has something to do with the somer blink ban thing... lol, sir, how dare you? ...the guy rewarded for comunity services would never do that... |
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Fourth Gate
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:35:00 -
[191] - Quote
Ganjjabeard wrote:evolution666 wrote:I'm seriously getting tired of all these unscheduled downtimes. Make the server stable or loose players.....simple. do you know that CCP's servers are under DDoS attack at the moment? For once its not their fault so quit your bitching
THIS.
Seriously. I've fought DDOS attacks, they suck. It's like trying to block a fire hose with ten nozzles from 15 feet away using only your hands. All this while management screams at you about lost revenue. CCP has no control over the tuds doing the attack, and defending against it is next to impossible.
This is not CCPs fault, it's the fault of whomever is attacking them. Yes, it's just that simple.
You can't magic wand this crap away, fools. There is no reset button. Sometimes things just take time to fix. It happens to the best of sites from time to time. I worked for one of the best/largest sites on the net with the best netsec talent there is, with the best hardware there is, outside of government. What they're fighting is REALLY hard to counter. Basically CCP is being blobbed.
If you lose your ship due to it (I disconnected in non-sov null, I'm likely to lose mine) file a petition.
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shrapp
Corporate Rescue Against Pirate Offenders
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:35:00 -
[192] - Quote
Starpoint9 wrote:So lets say when the server went down this most recent time and I had just jumped out of my wormhole to see where the wormhole went and launched probes and then poof! I have to go and will likely not be able to login for a while leaving me stuck outside my WH. (If the probes have not already expired they will soon) Can I petition this so I can get back into my WH and get my probes back considering that it isnt my fault that the servers went down? I would understand a petition for this being denied if I jumped out and logged off of my own accord; but I have no control over this...
I have a bad feeling about this..
you and me both, I have my HIC out and my my alts Proteus floating in a c2.... |
Malina Tomowy
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:35:00 -
[193] - Quote
its the chinese!!! |
Smoke Initup
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:36:00 -
[194] - Quote
[quote=Grimpak]lemme add a bit to the discussion:
Quote:
serious hardware (or, up to military level), depending on how hard it is, how fast, and how long it lasts.
Hmmmm I love the way you chose to word this....... On a more serious note I may not get to play again tonight |
Sharron Yinari
Serenity Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:36:00 -
[195] - Quote
Verrnock Altol wrote:Sharron Yinari wrote:Verrnock Altol wrote:Sharron Yinari wrote:Patrick TARPON wrote:what is a DDOS attack ?
Direct Denial of Service If someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash Google is your friend. You should probably use it before you start spouting off incorrect information. dude I had to deal with ddos attacks on another game where we owned the server...I know what im talking about, it might not be fancy techno babble, but it gets the point across that someone creates a bunch of fast sending connections to the server causing the server to constantly process those packets of information, causing to lag, then crash... "Distributed Denial of Service" Renting proxy's has nothing to do with it. There are no "pings" involved. Basically, Not a damn thing you said is correct......
do you really think hackers are going to use their own personal IP Address to attack a server? if they do they are stupid, they get proxys to conceal their IP address....the more proxys, the harder to trace.. what I mean by pings is them sending packets to the server....I said ping because its less techno babble for people who don't know.... im done arguing with your know-it-all additude |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1140
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:37:00 -
[196] - Quote
Auron Sol wrote:Jail time for this? YES! .. making a political statement through DDoS is one thing but ******* with peoples personal lives (be it they're game time, they're internet viewing or any other internet related activity) for the purpose of *****'n'giggles its not far off being classified as torture which is illegal and punishable by prison time .. so yeah jail time for the *******/s pulling this **** is a small price to pay .. me personally with my overkill attitude i would stick them in a hot box in the middle of the desert with loud speakers playing the phrase "it is NOT ok to **** with peoples personal lives on repeat for 7 days ... and if they did it again bullet to the head straight up!
Remind me not to mess with your Eve time... I was going to suggest a few months in Mexican prison lol
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Nicholas Vierra
Operation Nebula Blaze
8
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:37:00 -
[197] - Quote
DDOS attacks are not a new thing. Like computing, they have evolved to get around security that is in place to prevent them from happening. Riot games has also recently been attacked, and so have a few retail chains. It happens, it is part of life on the net. Think of this attack like an Incursion. We need to wait for CCP to pop the mom before we can all go back to business as usual.
Also note, constant attempts to reconnect to Tranquility may cause CCP further problems. Wait for CCP to say server is up before trying to re-connect. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
853
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:37:00 -
[198] - Quote
Auron Sol wrote:Jail time for this? YES! .. making a political statement through DDoS is one thing but ******* with peoples personal lives (be it they're game time, they're internet viewing or any other internet related activity) for the purpose of *****'n'giggles its not far off being classified as torture which is illegal and punishable by prison time .. so yeah jail time for the *******/s pulling this **** is a small price to pay .. me personally with my overkill attitude i would stick them in a hot box in the middle of the desert with loud speakers playing the phrase "it is NOT ok to **** with peoples personal lives on repeat for 7 days ... and if they did it again bullet to the head straight up!
Confirming this poster has engaged in too much emergent gameplay and needs use this brief unscheduled downtime to step away from the computer, gain some perspective, and perhaps realize that calling for throwing people into torture chambers before shooting them in the head is probably not the most rational response to having your favorite video game have a little bit of downtime.
Just relax, Auron. Step way, get some water, take a deep breath - everything is going to be okay. I mean, if not, we can always start shooting people in the head in real life STRAIGHT UP DAWG
/me bangs his head on the desk |
Brahan Seer
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
19
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:38:00 -
[199] - Quote
Malina Tomowy wrote:its the chinese!!!
No its Lizard Squad they already claimed responsibility |
Fabulous Visage
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:38:00 -
[200] - Quote
The internet gets shittier by the day. If ddossing is your fetish, you're a sad little man. forever alone.
Time for tea. |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1230
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:39:00 -
[201] - Quote
these DDOSers need to be strung up by their balls in a very public place and regularly slapped with a wet noodle This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster Advent of Fate
158
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:39:00 -
[202] - Quote
Somer is it you ? "This is nothing more than a rumor with no basis of fact. Hope that's enough of a confirmation for you guys. :)" Coolstorybro
http://sinisterspinster.enjin.com/ |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
853
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:39:00 -
[203] - Quote
IIshira wrote:
Remind me not to mess with your Eve time... I was going to suggest a few months in Mexican prison lol
Confirming that jokes about inhumane prison conditions are top level comedy, right up there with jokes about getting sexually assaulted in prison. Way to take the high road, IIshira :P Though, I admit, your response is a lot more rational and level headed then shooting people in the head lol :P |
Jive Pendragon
Upworldly Mobile The Void Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:40:00 -
[204] - Quote
This sucks, it's been issue after issue the past few days and we haven't realy been told what's going on. I, and everyone here pays for this game in one way or another. It's a service that should be provided at all times except the planned and annouced downtimes.
Just give us an answer on what is realy going on!
And yes I have reached the point that I seriously want some kind of compensation for the loss of gametime.
After all that is what I pay CCP for.
|
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
2954
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:40:00 -
[205] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Auron Sol wrote:Jail time for this? YES! .. making a political statement through DDoS is one thing but ******* with peoples personal lives (be it they're game time, they're internet viewing or any other internet related activity) for the purpose of *****'n'giggles its not far off being classified as torture which is illegal and punishable by prison time .. so yeah jail time for the *******/s pulling this **** is a small price to pay .. me personally with my overkill attitude i would stick them in a hot box in the middle of the desert with loud speakers playing the phrase "it is NOT ok to **** with peoples personal lives on repeat for 7 days ... and if they did it again bullet to the head straight up! Confirming this poster has engaged in too much emergent gameplay and needs use this brief unscheduled downtime to step away from the computer, gain some perspective, and perhaps realize that calling for throwing people into torture chambers before shooting them in the head is probably not the most rational response to having your favorite video game have a little bit of downtime. Just relax, Auron. Step way, get some water, take a deep breath - everything is going to be okay. I mean, if not, we can always start shooting people in the head in real life STRAIGHT UP DAWG /me bangs his head on the desk I don't usually agree with the things you post... but this one you've got right. Auron Sol, some kids pulling a prank does not constitute torture, take a deep breath and get some perspective. |
Jeshua Starbreeze
Drill Corp
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:40:00 -
[206] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:these DDOSers need to be strung up by their balls in a very public place and regularly slapped with a wet noodle
Lol |
Malina Tomowy
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:40:00 -
[207] - Quote
Brahan Seer wrote:Malina Tomowy wrote:its the chinese!!! No its Lizard Squad they already claimed responsibility
lol i know some dude linked me them earlier, i was kidding..i checked their twitter too...doesn't look like they did it again. They haven't been tweeting about it. they tweeting about some other ****
here is their twitter: https://twitter.com/LizardSquad |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
354
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:41:00 -
[208] - Quote
Somer died, EVE DOS'd. |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
455
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:41:00 -
[209] - Quote
Maybe now is a good time to purchase a permit for the Tranquility Server? |
Lemanik
The Kanye West Foundation
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:41:00 -
[210] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:111010110 wrote:So .. rise of the machines? yes We need Colonel Carter |
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Enya Hostetter
Knights of Civilization The Bastard Cartel
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:41:00 -
[211] - Quote
I'm probably going to lose my two hundred million ship from all this. What the hell is the point of this game anymore if I might just lose everything from a simple connection problem? |
Verrnock Altol
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:41:00 -
[212] - Quote
[quote}Direct Denial of Service
If someone wants to lag that server, they can get rent "proxy" machines, and cause them to constantly ping the server, and they server has to process every ping, so the faster the pings, the more lag, eventually the server will crash[/quote]
Google is your friend. You should probably use it before you start spouting off incorrect information.[/quote]
dude I had to deal with ddos attacks on another game where we owned the server...I know what im talking about, it might not be fancy techno babble, but it gets the point across that someone creates a bunch of fast sending connections to the server causing the server to constantly process those packets of information, causing to lag, then crash...[/quote]
"Distributed Denial of Service"
Renting proxy's has nothing to do with it. There are no "pings" involved.
Basically, Not a damn thing you said is correct...... [/quote]
do you really think hackers are going to use their own personal IP Address to attack a server? if they do they are stupid, they get proxys to conceal their IP address....the more proxys, the harder to trace.. what I mean by pings is them sending packets to the server....I said ping because its less techno babble for people who don't know.... im done arguing with your know-it-all additude[/quote]
the fact that you think the "hacker's" IP has anything to do with the DDOS just proved you literally have no clue what you are talking about.
DDOS's orignate from botnets not the "hacker's" IP....
We have established you are wrong and don't know what you are talking about. It isn't an argument, it is me stating facts. Next time just get your **** straight before telling people false ****. |
Abbaddona
Event Hor1zon Flame Bridge
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:42:00 -
[213] - Quote
any compensation for this ? |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:42:00 -
[214] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:these DDOSers need to be strung up by their balls in a very public place and regularly slapped with a wet noodle
Sounds exciting can i join them? |
Inpphy
Cyp-Argon Industries
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:42:00 -
[215] - Quote
I just hope I don't loss my ship. I was about to target an ice asteroid when the server craped out. And I can't stand the idea of having to submit a petition to get it back and the very long wait from CCP that normally follows with petitions.
I just don't know why anyone would find attacking a server in this manner profitable other then to make an idiot of your self. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1230
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:43:00 -
[216] - Quote
loyalanon wrote:Maybe now is a good time to purchase a permit for the Tranquility Server?
CCP don't mine, they actually create the roids This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Brahan Seer
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
19
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:43:00 -
[217] - Quote
Jive Pendragon wrote:This sucks, it's been issue after issue the past few days and we haven't realy been told what's going on. I, and everyone here pays for this game in one way or another. It's a service that should be provided at all times except the planned and annouced downtimes. Just give us an answer on what is realy going on! And yes I have reached the point that I seriously want some kind of compensation for the loss of gametime. After all that is what I pay CCP for.
They wont give you details, no reputable IT department would allow giving any details that could high light hardware circumstance of downtime as it would potentially expose vulnerability. So calm down happens in every game for once you can't blame CCP. If you want to be pissed and do something get your net+ ccna msce gsec cissp and ceh and go find lizard squad and call it a day |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
853
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:43:00 -
[218] - Quote
Derrick Miles wrote: I don't usually agree with the things you post... but this one you've got right. Auron Sol, some kids pulling a prank does not constitute torture, take a deep breath and get some perspective.
Thanks, Derrick. Really cool of you to say that - I don't always agree with the things a lot of people here post, but I think we can all stand together and agree that a video game having some unscheduled downtime is not the end of the world and that players calling for the actual RL death of those responsible for this downtime really need to just find something else to do for a little while :P
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1230
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:43:00 -
[219] - Quote
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:these DDOSers need to be strung up by their balls in a very public place and regularly slapped with a wet noodle Sounds exciting can i join them?
^he wants to join the ddosers ... get 'im boys This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:44:00 -
[220] - Quote
Inpphy wrote:I just hope I don't loss my ship. I was about to target an ice asteroid when the server craped out. And I can't stand the idea of having to submit a petition to get it back and the very long wait from CCP that normally follows with petitions.
I just don't know why anyone would find attacking a server in this manner profitable other then to make an idiot of your self.
Some attacks are not for profit and instead are just done because some one is bored or pissed and need attention |
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Marexlovox
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
47
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:44:00 -
[221] - Quote
Enya Hostetter wrote:I'm probably going to lose my two hundred million ship from all this. What the hell is the point of this game anymore if I might just lose everything from a simple connection problem?
When game comes up and ship is lost, open a support ticket. |
Starpoint9
Purging Maelstrom That Escalated Quickly.
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:44:00 -
[222] - Quote
Enya Hostetter wrote:I'm probably going to lose my two hundred million ship from all this. What the hell is the point of this game anymore if I might just lose everything from a simple connection problem?
could be worse.... Could potentially lose access to your W-space system that is housing your roughly 10+ bil isk POS |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:45:00 -
[223] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:these DDOSers need to be strung up by their balls in a very public place and regularly slapped with a wet noodle Sounds exciting can i join them? ^he wants to join the ddosers ... get 'im boys
emm yes come at me i'm getten tingly |
Fabulous Visage
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:45:00 -
[224] - Quote
People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1141
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:45:00 -
[225] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:IIshira wrote:
Remind me not to mess with your Eve time... I was going to suggest a few months in Mexican prison lol
Confirming that jokes about inhumane prison conditions are top level comedy, right up there with jokes about getting sexually assaulted in prison. Way to take the high road, IIshira :P Though, I admit, your response is a lot more rational and level headed then shooting people in the head lol :P
People make jokes about all kinds of terrible things. If you take things seriously 24/7 you'll get wound so tight that you'll end up making the news.
I don't think anyone really wants to see the DDOS guys hurt but it's always fun to joke.
High road?... If I was the take the high road kind of person I wouldn't want to play Eve lol
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Sharron Yinari
Serenity Collective
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:45:00 -
[226] - Quote
We have established you are wrong and don't know what you are talking about. It isn't an argument, it is me stating facts. Next time just get your **** straight before telling people false ****.[/quote]
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DDoS_attack.html
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DoS_attack.html
please enjoy
I am officially done posting to you, have a good day. |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
102
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:46:00 -
[227] - Quote
Starpoint9 wrote:Enya Hostetter wrote:I'm probably going to lose my two hundred million ship from all this. What the hell is the point of this game anymore if I might just lose everything from a simple connection problem? could be worse.... Could potentially lose access to your W-space system that is housing your roughly 10+ bil isk POS
Because what are prober alts, If you dont have any sitting in there i hope you lose all your stuff :3 |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
34
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:46:00 -
[228] - Quote
so i wonder who the 2 other pilots are, or are they just ccp :P I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
tazzster
Bunny Death Squad
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:46:00 -
[229] - Quote
caught in a npc fight well better get coffee and smokes could be long nite for shure
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Todd Shadow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:47:00 -
[230] - Quote
loyalanon wrote:Maybe now is a good time to purchase a permit for the Tranquility Server?
On my phone so I'm all zoomed in and such. I read this and think "LOL, sounds like loyalanon". Scroll left and, "Yep".
XD |
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1141
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:47:00 -
[231] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:these DDOSers need to be strung up by their balls in a very public place and regularly slapped with a wet noodle
Okay that sounds like kinky fun reward rather than punishment. We don't want to encourage people to do this |
OldWolf69
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
145
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:47:00 -
[232] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:so i wonder who the 2 other pilots are, or are they just ccp :P ...nope, the two are Sumer and his alt. |
Biker TonyOnasis Sczymerahn
sudo rm -rf
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:48:00 -
[233] - Quote
it's just two dudes swinging their avatars at each other |
Hakaari Uisen
Legion of the Southern Cross
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:48:00 -
[234] - Quote
So who are the 2 other pilots logged into the game right now? Some kid of system attendant or something? |
AWACS Sgt
A.W.A.C.S
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:48:00 -
[235] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:[quote=Auron Sol] /me bangs his head on the desk
do it harder and add some big nails stickin out of the top of the desk while you're at it. |
Lemanik
The Kanye West Foundation
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:48:00 -
[236] - Quote
Eve Down League Down
time for some World of Tanks |
Tonestar 1
Fat Dragon Mining Co. The G0dfathers
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:48:00 -
[237] - Quote
I am a paying customer ....hope I get some kind of credit .....sp or gametime ...don't care ...but must have something or I will sue you, and if I don't sue, I will just be really dissapointed that its been another Friday night with no woman and no EVE ...FML !! |
Sneekeypete NZXT
Stratos Corp
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:49:00 -
[238] - Quote
Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location.
I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack. |
Jeshua Starbreeze
Drill Corp
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:49:00 -
[239] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:so i wonder who the 2 other pilots are, or are they just ccp :P
Been wondering that myself. Probably ccp. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
857
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:49:00 -
[240] - Quote
Enya Hostetter wrote:I'm probably going to lose my two hundred million ship from all this. What the hell is the point of this game anymore if I might just lose everything from a simple connection problem?
Just relax. Connection issues happen - and when they are issues with your personal LAN or your local ISP, there's not much CCP can do, as their logs are not going to show anything.
However, you are in luck! In a situation like like, every single player has been knocked offline and CCP is aware that something is wrong. When you log back in, you will either find yourself in that fancy spaceship OR you will find yourself not in that fancy spaceship. In the event that said fancy spaceship is not around anymore, just take another deep breath and relax and ...
Submit a support ticket. Be nice about it. Understand that a real human being who works for CCP is going to be the one reading it, and that he has probably been reading support tickets for many hours. Don't scream at him, rage about how awful things are, or delude yourself into thinking that the CEO of CCP Games is the one dealing with your support ticket. Pretend he is just like you probably are, a human being who works a job for around 8 hours a day and has to deal with customers. Pretend it's you getting the support ticket and make it easy on him - link your lossmail, link any other relevant information that will help him deal with the situation quickly, and thank him for his time. It's easy.
If you take a loss due to a downtime like this, CCP will take care of you. As one who has had quite a few ships replaced due to things like this - let me assure you that being polite, rational, calm, and chill will get you *everywhere*.
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Torneach Structor
Showup Fleet
14
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:49:00 -
[241] - Quote
Starpoint9 wrote:Enya Hostetter wrote:I'm probably going to lose my two hundred million ship from all this. What the hell is the point of this game anymore if I might just lose everything from a simple connection problem? could be worse.... Could potentially lose access to your W-space system that is housing your roughly 10+ bil isk POS
No scanner alt hanging out in the POS, just in case?
Bad move |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:50:00 -
[242] - Quote
AWACS Sgt wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:[quote=Auron Sol] /me bangs his head on the desk do it harder and add some big nails stickin out of the top of the desk while you're at it.
... damn that's a bit violent |
Inpphy
Cyp-Argon Industries
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:50:00 -
[243] - Quote
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Inpphy wrote:I just hope I don't loss my ship. I was about to target an ice asteroid when the server craped out. And I can't stand the idea of having to submit a petition to get it back and the very long wait from CCP that normally follows with petitions.
I just don't know why anyone would find attacking a server in this manner profitable other then to make an idiot of your self. Some attacks are not for profit and instead are just done because some one is bored or pissed and need attention
Doing it for attention or because your annoyed or upset at something is still profit because your doing something to get something hence profit. I wasn't implying the money kind.
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OldWolf69
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
145
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:50:00 -
[244] - Quote
Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack. WoW is too lame even for Ddos guys hahahahahahahaha
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SF BrooD
Star of Jantir
1
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[245] - Quote
i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad... |
DarkanZ
Interstellar Vagabonds
3
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[246] - Quote
Hakaari Uisen wrote:So who are the 2 other pilots logged into the game right now? Some kid of system attendant or something?
start the client and see that the server is offline.... don't trust the launcher :) it's a TRAP :)
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Jive Pendragon
Upworldly Mobile The Void Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[247] - Quote
They wont give you details, no reputable IT department would allow giving any details that could high light hardware circumstance of downtime as it would potentially expose vulnerability. So calm down happens in every game for once you can't blame CCP. If you want to be pissed and do something get your net+ ccna msce gsec cissp and ceh and go find lizard squad and call it a day[/quote]
Don't want exact details, I untherstand that reasoning. Just want to know is it a DDOS attack or is it in relation to the last patch.
Ow and I'm verry calm about this :) It just sucks that now that I have time to play the server is down.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9014
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[248] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote: If you take a loss due to a downtime like this, CCP will take care of you. As one who has had quite a few ships replaced due to things like this - let me assure you that being polite, rational, calm, and chill will get you *everywhere*.
With CCP, anyway. I've long since exhausted my options in regards to being nice to DMV employees. But they're not people anyway. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[249] - Quote
Torneach Structor wrote:Starpoint9 wrote:Enya Hostetter wrote:I'm probably going to lose my two hundred million ship from all this. What the hell is the point of this game anymore if I might just lose everything from a simple connection problem? could be worse.... Could potentially lose access to your W-space system that is housing your roughly 10+ bil isk POS No scanner alt hanging out in the POS, just in case? Bad move
or just a friend in the hole? |
Balderredux
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[250] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Derrick Miles wrote: I don't usually agree with the things you post... but this one you've got right. Auron Sol, some kids pulling a prank does not constitute torture, take a deep breath and get some perspective.
Thanks, Derrick. Really cool of you to say that - I don't always agree with the things a lot of people here post, but I think we can all stand together and agree that a video game having some unscheduled downtime is not the end of the world and that players calling for the actual RL death of those responsible for this downtime really need to just find something else to do for a little while :P
Sure - but punishment along these lines would nevertheless be appropriate... |
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
34
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[251] - Quote
Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack. cause no one cares about WoW I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Happy Clark
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:51:00 -
[252] - Quote
Map of all the DDoS attacks going on right now: http://www.digitalattackmap.com/#anim=1&color=0&country=ALL&time=16303&view=map
Small video about how DDoS attacks work: http://www.digitalattackmap.com/understanding-ddos/
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
2962
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:52:00 -
[253] - Quote
SF BrooD wrote:i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad... And let that be a lesson on priorities... |
tazzster
Bunny Death Squad
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:52:00 -
[254] - Quote
3 in one day ud think they would be on the ball by now and dont give me this well its not there fault sure first maybe not but if didnt clear this morn why bring servers back up to happen 2 more times and cause more people to have ingame issues added to the log issues
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:52:00 -
[255] - Quote
SF BrooD wrote:i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad... Wow I think you need more downtime from Eve. If you keep blowing her off she might find someone else who won't |
Steadly Sol
Steadly Sprockets
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:52:00 -
[256] - Quote
liftoff |
Mind Hunter
Freedom For Fantasy The Unthinkables
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:53:00 -
[257] - Quote
its up :) |
Todd Shadow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:53:00 -
[258] - Quote
Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack.
ERM.... They've been ddos's plenty. A 30 second Google search proved that real quick.
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
34
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:53:00 -
[259] - Quote
HOLY CRAP! IM IN THE GAME I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:53:00 -
[260] - Quote
Derrick Miles wrote:SF BrooD wrote:i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad... And let that be a lesson on priorities...
nah he seems to have them right. this is internet spaceships we are talking about |
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Kira Hhallas
Very Drunken Eve Flying Instructors Brotherhood Of Silent Space
384
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:53:00 -
[261] - Quote
Rofl.... as i played we had many downtimes because of DDoS attacks......and and i played on the EU Timer serves. Kira Hhallas - Austrian EvE Community - ingame =+ûsterreich= -
Cuiusvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare |
Hakaari Uisen
Legion of the Southern Cross
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:54:00 -
[262] - Quote
384 pilots online now |
OldWolf69
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
145
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:54:00 -
[263] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:HOLY CRAP! IM IN THE GAME ...just safe up ya **** and be prepared. I have a feeling that the obese kids setting this up won't go away that easy. |
Strom Crendraven
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
70
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:54:00 -
[264] - Quote
[quote=SF BrooD]i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad...[ .REDTUBE.COM, engage spanktervision. Your welcome! |
Lemanik
The Kanye West Foundation
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:55:00 -
[265] - Quote
POP THE CHAMPAGNE
WE MADE IT |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
858
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:56:00 -
[266] - Quote
Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack.
Confirming that the wonderful WOW has never has a single issue with a DDoS attack
oh wait
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9751075291
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1449452-World-of-Warcraft-DDOS?p=25087301
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/news-main/hacker-group-derp-target-world-warcraft-league-legends-ea/
http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/12/world-of-warcraft-gamer-deals-with-ddos-attacks/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LulzSec
http://www.notebookreview.com/news/massive-ddos-attacks-take-down-steam-origin-other-popular-game-services/
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/12/hackers-claim-takedown-of-battlenet-league-of-legends-eacom/
Perhaps during your 8 years of extreme hardcore elf and magical flying mount action you just happened to be lucky enough to not be playing WOW during these events? :P
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Ava Baby
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:57:00 -
[267] - Quote
Well since my last post didn't post...... Cannot log in now 21:55 (GMT -10) . It says no internet connection or port issue. Since the Adult Videos are working fine. I must be trying to access the wrong "port".
Edit1 19:55 to @ 21:55 (too much Bourbon) Edit2/3 stupid English words |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2255
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:57:00 -
[268] - Quote
Steadly Sol wrote:Grimpak wrote:lemme add a bit to the discussion: Quote:DDoS mitigation is a set of techniques for resisting distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks on networks attached to the Internet by protecting the target and relay networks.[1] This is done by passing network traffic addressed to the attacked network through high-capacity networks with "traffic scrubbing" filters.[2] DDoS mitigation requires correctly identifying incoming traffic to separate human traffic from human-like bots and hijacked browsers.[3] The process is done by comparing signatures and examining different attributes of the traffic, including IP addresses, cookie variations, http headers, and Javascript footprints.[3]
Manual DDoS mitigation is no longer recommended due to DDoS attackers being able to circumvent DDoS mitigation software that is activated manually.[4] Best practices for DDoS mitigation include having both anti-DDoS technology and anti-DDoS emergency response services.[4] DDoS mitigation is also available through cloud-based providers.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigationso, you can't stop it. you can only mitigate it, since you will need up to serious hardware (or, up to military level), depending on how hard it is, how fast, and how long it lasts. they have the military grade hardware. :)
"had" is the more correct word
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Hakaari Uisen
Legion of the Southern Cross
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:57:00 -
[269] - Quote
Back in. But...for how long??? |
Sneekeypete NZXT
Stratos Corp
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:57:00 -
[270] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack. cause no one cares about WoW
At one point 12 million subscribers cared. I'm guessing their infrastructure was just set up better. And yes there are ways to protect your servers from a DDoS attack. |
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Avaelica Kuershin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:57:00 -
[271] - Quote
Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack.
Rubbish! (do a search for ddos blizzard OR wow)
Go check their forums right now.
Or search ddos lizard for the last 24 hours |
Ragnarock Zero
Prison Shank Dispensaries Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:57:00 -
[272] - Quote
SF BrooD wrote:Hakaari Uisen wrote:Who are the 2 pilots currently logged in?? i think its the guys behind the attacks!.... they must be taking all the combat sites as we speak!
Nah Just looting your wreck |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
102
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:57:00 -
[273] - Quote
SF BrooD wrote:i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad...
Can you bring your tengu back <3 |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
858
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:58:00 -
[274] - Quote
Balderredux wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Derrick Miles wrote: I don't usually agree with the things you post... but this one you've got right. Auron Sol, some kids pulling a prank does not constitute torture, take a deep breath and get some perspective.
Thanks, Derrick. Really cool of you to say that - I don't always agree with the things a lot of people here post, but I think we can all stand together and agree that a video game having some unscheduled downtime is not the end of the world and that players calling for the actual RL death of those responsible for this downtime really need to just find something else to do for a little while :P Sure - but punishment along these lines would nevertheless be appropriate...
Confirming that some fish slapping would be totally ok with me :P
Perhaps a large trout? :P |
Enya Hostetter
Knights of Civilization The Bastard Cartel
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:59:00 -
[275] - Quote
I didn't lose my ship! I'm gonna make it! ;D
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
858
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 07:59:00 -
[276] - Quote
Enya Hostetter wrote:I didn't lose my ship! I'm gonna make it! ;D
Funny how these things usually end up just fine :P |
OldWolf69
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
145
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:01:00 -
[277] - Quote
aaaaand here we go again! |
Ava Baby
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:01:00 -
[278] - Quote
SF BrooD wrote:i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad...
If you blew her she's a dude. Sorry
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Inpphy
Cyp-Argon Industries
1
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:02:00 -
[279] - Quote
FFS down again. how long did that last a whole of 4 minutes get this crap fixed CCP. |
xRyokenx
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
360
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:03:00 -
[280] - Quote
Up and down, then up and down. xRyokenx |
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:03:00 -
[281] - Quote
Grimpak wrote:Steadly Sol wrote:Grimpak wrote:lemme add a bit to the discussion: Quote:DDoS mitigation is a set of techniques for resisting distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks on networks attached to the Internet by protecting the target and relay networks.[1] This is done by passing network traffic addressed to the attacked network through high-capacity networks with "traffic scrubbing" filters.[2] DDoS mitigation requires correctly identifying incoming traffic to separate human traffic from human-like bots and hijacked browsers.[3] The process is done by comparing signatures and examining different attributes of the traffic, including IP addresses, cookie variations, http headers, and Javascript footprints.[3]
Manual DDoS mitigation is no longer recommended due to DDoS attackers being able to circumvent DDoS mitigation software that is activated manually.[4] Best practices for DDoS mitigation include having both anti-DDoS technology and anti-DDoS emergency response services.[4] DDoS mitigation is also available through cloud-based providers.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigationso, you can't stop it. you can only mitigate it, since you will need up to serious hardware (or, up to military level), depending on how hard it is, how fast, and how long it lasts. they have the military grade hardware. :) "had" is the more correct word If only you knew how "great" the army computers were. I agree it must be "military grade" lol |
Lemanik
The Kanye West Foundation
4
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:03:00 -
[282] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:aaaaand here we go again!
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evolution666
Shady Investments Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:03:00 -
[283] - Quote
Farked again.....awesome. |
DarkanZ
Interstellar Vagabonds
3
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:03:00 -
[284] - Quote
well the connection is still " on the verge of dissipating into the ether...." |
Natalie Solis Solima
Overload. Black Core Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:04:00 -
[285] - Quote
was in and dced again.. lame |
Hakaari Uisen
Legion of the Southern Cross
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:04:00 -
[286] - Quote
intermittent... topped up my toons skills at least! |
Coruphius
Bacon Science Laboratories
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:04:00 -
[287] - Quote
Meow.... |
Erelas RyAlcar
Tactical Cube
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:04:00 -
[288] - Quote
Hmmph, was in long enough to make two jumps and then, out again, oh well, perhaps I "should" sleep. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:04:00 -
[289] - Quote
evolution666 wrote:Farked again.....awesome.
At least I had enough time to dock |
Fourth Gate
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:05:00 -
[290] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:Daniel Jackson wrote:HOLY CRAP! IM IN THE GAME ...just safe up ya **** and be prepared. I have a feeling that the obese kids setting this up won't go away that easy.
Yup, this is what I did. Safe up, safe logoff, wait 30 secs, quit client and go read a book. Or troll the forums. |
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Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
102
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:05:00 -
[291] - Quote
Not enuf time to file petition for mah probes >.> |
Fabulous Visage
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:05:00 -
[292] - Quote
God this is just.... dammit.
I hope white-hat hackers are after this no-lifer. |
Chevy Hakoke
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
50
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:06:00 -
[293] - Quote
Yeah got in for about two minutes
Declare we won EvE in Allience chat
Warp to get PI, and land 60km off on a warp to 0... then boom non-consensual downtime |
Natalie Solis Solima
Overload. Black Core Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:06:00 -
[294] - Quote
lowest bidder = military grade lol yay docked at least. |
Neco Velox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:06:00 -
[295] - Quote
Malina Tomowy wrote:Brahan Seer wrote:Malina Tomowy wrote:its the chinese!!! No its Lizard Squad they already claimed responsibility lol i know some dude linked me them earlier, i was kidding..i checked their twitter too...doesn't look like they did it again. They haven't been tweeting about it. they tweeting about some other **** here is their twitter: https://twitter.com/LizardSquad
Maybe scroll down further, here's one from 12 hrs ago . . .
Lizard Squad @LizardSquad -+ 12h Did someone say @EveOnline? Should be @EveOffline lmfao |
Anthar Thebess
670
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:06:00 -
[296] - Quote
https://twitter.com/LizardSquad They are responsible for this. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes |
Auron Sol
The Tax Dodger
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:06:00 -
[297] - Quote
Brahan Seer wrote:Jive Pendragon wrote:This sucks, it's been issue after issue the past few days and we haven't realy been told what's going on. I, and everyone here pays for this game in one way or another. It's a service that should be provided at all times except the planned and annouced downtimes. Just give us an answer on what is realy going on! And yes I have reached the point that I seriously want some kind of compensation for the loss of gametime. After all that is what I pay CCP for. They wont give you details, no reputable IT department would allow giving any details that could high light hardware circumstance of downtime as it would potentially expose vulnerability. So calm down happens in every game for once you can't blame CCP. If you want to be pissed and do something get your net+ ccna msce gsec cissp and ceh and go find lizard squad and call it a day
Funny, ive played EQ2 for 7 years never once had a DDoS attack downtime ... played WoW for 4-5 years and never had a DDoS downtime ... played a whole bunch of other games SWG/STO/SWTOR and more never once had a DDoS downtime .. where do you get your info from eves DDoS attacks in the past week are the first time i even heard of a DDoS attack |
Amarant'h
Fistful of Finns Triumvirate.
26
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:07:00 -
[298] - Quote
Not working. Shi.. I have to put my skills on guys!!! Going to be away whole weekend and cant put my skill queue going.. |
Fabulous Visage
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:07:00 -
[299] - Quote
I'm drinking my tea FURIOUS! SIPPING IT WITH ANGER AND HATE! |
isk4trade
Cogitation Mining and Industrial Trading
42
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:08:00 -
[300] - Quote
Current WORLD DDoS attacks map
http://www.digitalattackmap.com/#anim=1&color=0&country=ALL&time=16304&view=map
WOW !!!
me
P.S. I was able to login for about 40 seconds ... There were only 10 ppl in Arnon ... I didn't see a total online before it whisked me in ... but then SOCKET CLOSED ... meh |
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
36
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:08:00 -
[301] - Quote
Anthar Thebess wrote:https://twitter.com/LizardSquad They are responsible for this. this is their IRC chat https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.darkode.com/?theme=cli#lizardsquad I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
858
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:09:00 -
[302] - Quote
Page has not loaded yet and I expect to see a HUGE RED DOT on the home server of the Westboro Baptist Church :P
Came expecting clarity, left with confusion.
From what I can tell:
The USA is engaged in serious intense cyber warfare against the north pole, our Aussie friends are DDOSing the living crap out of the ocean, and China is joining the USA in a joint attack against the north pole.
Am I reading this wrong? Please advise.
http://puu.sh/b2VVX/803ba8f9f3.jpg |
Dante Aries
Department of Defence incendia equus
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:09:00 -
[303] - Quote
Was in long enough to see that i needed to update my PI. Submit button would not submit :( Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11296
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:11:00 -
[304] - Quote
What a great idea, let's all go to an IRC channel where the opers can read our IP addresses on connection. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
AmIevL
BlackStone Wielder
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:11:00 -
[305] - Quote
All day trying.. and no luck. Till now.... I managed to get in game 3:10 am cst
1500 podpilots logged in all the universe |
Crappeshotte
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:12:00 -
[306] - Quote
08:10 UTC here (Spain) and the game's only just come back online. It's been inaccessible for over 14 hours. |
Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
23
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:12:00 -
[307] - Quote
Stop mentioning them lest we give them the attention they crave. The attention their parents and their first crush in school never gave. GöÇGòó The Explorer I GöÇGòó The Explorer II (Coming Soon!)
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Maya Zeal
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:12:00 -
[308] - Quote
Fabulous Visage wrote:I'm drinking my tea FURIOUS! SIPPING IT WITH ANGER AND HATE!
Oh my. That face... |
Todd Shadow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 08:12:00 -
[309] - Quote
Auron Sol wrote:Brahan Seer wrote:Jive Pendragon wrote:This sucks, it's been issue after issue the past few days and we haven't realy been told what's going on. I, and everyone here pays for this game in one way or another. It's a service that should be provided at all times except the planned and annouced downtimes. Just give us an answer on what is realy going on! And yes I have reached the point that I seriously want some kind of compensation for the loss of gametime. After all that is what I pay CCP for. They wont give you details, no reputable IT department would allow giving any details that could high light hardware circumstance of downtime as it would potentially expose vulnerability. So calm down happens in every game for once you can't blame CCP. If you want to be pissed and do something get your net+ ccna msce gsec cissp and ceh and go find lizard squad and call it a day Funny, ive played EQ2 for 7 years never once had a DDoS attack downtime ... played WoW for 4-5 years and never had a DDoS downtime ... played a whole bunch of other games SWG/STO/SWTOR and more never once had a DDoS downtime .. where do you get your info from eves DDoS attacks in the past week are the first time i even heard of a DDoS attack
I was all prepared to post links proving you wrong on the "never had any ddos attacks" crap. But then read the part where you admit you've only ever learned of them in the past week.
lol, welcome to the internet. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2255
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:13:00 -
[310] - Quote
IIshira wrote:Grimpak wrote:Steadly Sol wrote:Grimpak wrote:lemme add a bit to the discussion: Quote:DDoS mitigation is a set of techniques for resisting distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks on networks attached to the Internet by protecting the target and relay networks.[1] This is done by passing network traffic addressed to the attacked network through high-capacity networks with "traffic scrubbing" filters.[2] DDoS mitigation requires correctly identifying incoming traffic to separate human traffic from human-like bots and hijacked browsers.[3] The process is done by comparing signatures and examining different attributes of the traffic, including IP addresses, cookie variations, http headers, and Javascript footprints.[3]
Manual DDoS mitigation is no longer recommended due to DDoS attackers being able to circumvent DDoS mitigation software that is activated manually.[4] Best practices for DDoS mitigation include having both anti-DDoS technology and anti-DDoS emergency response services.[4] DDoS mitigation is also available through cloud-based providers.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigationso, you can't stop it. you can only mitigate it, since you will need up to serious hardware (or, up to military level), depending on how hard it is, how fast, and how long it lasts. they have the military grade hardware. :) "had" is the more correct word If only you knew how "great" the army computers were. I agree it must be "military grade" lol
I see what you did thar
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
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OldWolf69
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
145
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:13:00 -
[311] - Quote
Auron Sol wrote:Brahan Seer wrote:Jive Pendragon wrote:This sucks, it's been issue after issue the past few days and we haven't realy been told what's going on. I, and everyone here pays for this game in one way or another. It's a service that should be provided at all times except the planned and annouced downtimes. Just give us an answer on what is realy going on! And yes I have reached the point that I seriously want some kind of compensation for the loss of gametime. After all that is what I pay CCP for. They wont give you details, no reputable IT department would allow giving any details that could high light hardware circumstance of downtime as it would potentially expose vulnerability. So calm down happens in every game for once you can't blame CCP. If you want to be pissed and do something get your net+ ccna msce gsec cissp and ceh and go find lizard squad and call it a day Funny, ive played EQ2 for 7 years never once had a DDoS attack downtime ... played WoW for 4-5 years and never had a DDoS downtime ... played a whole bunch of other games SWG/STO/SWTOR and more never once had a DDoS downtime .. where do you get your info from eves DDoS attacks in the past week are the first time i even heard of a DDoS attack ...this happens if u loose your time with unprincipal games
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
858
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:14:00 -
[312] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:What a great idea, let's all go to an IRC channel where the opers can read our IP addresses on connection.
It helps to use this thing called a "router" which probably comes equipped with a "firewall" that makes the concept of launching a organized DDOS or other attack against a single internet user behind NAT a bit, well, batpoop silly to even say out loud :P
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
25
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:15:00 -
[313] - Quote
i understand this is Eve and the Tear Buckets are overflowing but if you have the gumption to do something stupid like this then go after corrupt world goverments not someones form of entertainment.. going after a video game is like a fat kid holding a jelly donut being told hes fat it's just to easy and a little pathetic |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:16:00 -
[314] - Quote
Amely Miles wrote:i understand this is Eve and the Tear Buckets are overflowing but if you have the gumption to do something stupid like this then go after corrupt world goverments not someones form of entertainment.. going after a video game is like a fat kid holding a jelly donut being told hes fat it's just to easy and a little pathetic
Exactly that was HS for them |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
104
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:17:00 -
[315] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:What a great idea, let's all go to an IRC channel where the opers can read our IP addresses on connection. It helps to use this thing called a "router" which probably comes equipped with a "firewall" that makes the concept of launching a organized DDOS or other attack against a single internet user behind NAT a bit, well, batpoop silly to even say out loud :P
You should tell that to the Xbox Live community huehue |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
858
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:18:00 -
[316] - Quote
Amely Miles wrote:i understand this is Eve and the Tear Buckets are overflowing but if you have the gumption to do something stupid like this then go after corrupt world goverments not someones form of entertainment.. going after a video game is like a fat kid holding a jelly donut being told hes fat it's just to easy and a little pathetic
Confirming that random DDoS attacks against ISP's that host gaming networks are just like overweight people and jelly donuts.
Really, why do so many of you EVE players have such a hard time with basic metaphors? You can even get all cliche about it and still win harder, let me help you:
DDosing a gaming network when one could be DDosing a corrupt government is like taking candy from a baby.
There, I helped you. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
858
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:19:00 -
[317] - Quote
Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:
You should tell that to the Xbox Live community huehue
+1 and I see what you did there lol :)
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Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
104
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:23:00 -
[318] - Quote
Some comical relief for those greatly affected by this |
Admiral Zaar
Delta Academy
1
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:23:00 -
[319] - Quote
Hi all, just want to let CCP know that i logged in and put Medium Hybrid Turrets V on training so... take your time CCP you got plenty now
Jokes apart the probolem looks solved i'm in
Byez!
P.S. Never noticed how fascinating my Avatar's portrait is |
Nicholas Vierra
Operation Nebula Blaze
8
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:25:00 -
[320] - Quote
CCP is being jammed by a Falcon... or a Rook... Or a Blackbird... Or... hell, it may as well be all three of them. TQ Is being Blobbed by ECM Boats!
Because DDOS = ECM. |
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Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:27:00 -
[321] - Quote
Nicholas Vierra wrote:CCP is being jammed by a Falcon... or a Rook... Or a Blackbird... Or... hell, it may as well be all three of them. TQ Is being Blobbed by ECM Boats!
Because DDOS = ECM.
Widow is feels left out and is sad now |
Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
23
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:28:00 -
[322] - Quote
Guys I think I learned how to do it. GöÇGòó The Explorer I GöÇGòó The Explorer II (Coming Soon!)
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CCP Falcon
8387
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:30:00 -
[323] - Quote
UPDATE 08:30 - CONNECTIVITY TO TRANQUILITY HAS BEEN RESTORED
Sorry for the connectivity problems this morning guys, hopefully they're resolved now.
Apologies for any inconvenience!
- F CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
10
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:31:00 -
[324] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:UPDATE 08:30 - CONNECTIVITY TO TRANQUILITY HAS BEEN RESTORED
Sorry for the connectivity problems this morning guys, hopefully they're resolved now.
Apologies for any inconvenience!
- F
Well done CCP |
Safdrof Uta
VELOCIRAPTORS EATING GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICH
27
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:32:00 -
[325] - Quote
Is this affecting any other services? IE, account services etc.
I'm having issues adding game time to my account. |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:32:00 -
[326] - Quote
Fourth Gate wrote:Ganjjabeard wrote:evolution666 wrote:I'm seriously getting tired of all these unscheduled downtimes. Make the server stable or loose players.....simple. do you know that CCP's servers are under DDoS attack at the moment? For once its not their fault so quit your bitching THIS. Seriously. I've fought DDOS attacks, they suck. It's like trying to block a fire hose with ten nozzles from 15 feet away using only your hands. All this while management screams at you about lost revenue. CCP has no control over the tuds doing the attack, and defending against it is next to impossible. This is not CCPs fault, it's the fault of whomever is attacking them. Yes, it's just that simple. You can't magic wand this crap away, fools. There is no reset button. Sometimes things just take time to fix. It happens to the best of sites from time to time. I worked for one of the best/largest sites on the net with the best netsec talent there is, with the best hardware there is, outside of government. What they're fighting is REALLY hard to counter. Basically CCP is being blobbed. If you lose your ship due to it (I disconnected in non-sov null, I'm likely to lose mine) file a petition. Defending against DDoS is hardly "next to impossible" - in fact, it's absurdly easy. This is the simplest type of attack, it's age-old, just one step above script kiddy, every systems administrator has the working mechanics of a DDoS down cold, and everyone knows a dozen effective ways to defend against it.
That being said, easy isn't necessarily the same as cheap. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11304
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:38:00 -
[327] - Quote
I never understood what the different colors actually meant, and I've run several hundred Covert Research Facilities so I'm quite proficient in hacking (and doing so as quickly as possible). Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution
296
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:43:00 -
[328] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:UPDATE 08:30 - CONNECTIVITY TO TRANQUILITY HAS BEEN RESTORED
Sorry for the connectivity problems this morning guys, hopefully they're resolved now.
Apologies for any inconvenience!
- F
I know it's not your fault CCP.
This DDOS has cost me at least a days worth of training as wasn't able to log in and update my que yesterday, and won't be able to log in again until this evening (at best). I imagine lots of players have missed a at least a day worth or training.
Do you think there will be any SP given out?
I do seem to remember free SP being allocated last time there was an extended DDOS
Don't Panic.
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SJ Astralana
Syncore
61
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:44:00 -
[329] - Quote
My web site hosted in Singapore is still unable to connect to the API, while my home computer in Australia can, so it appears the response has been to basically sever Asia from the Eve servers. I'll have to move my infrastructure to the western civilized world, so win win. Hyperdrive your production business: Eve Production Manager |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11304
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:45:00 -
[330] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:What a great idea, let's all go to an IRC channel where the opers can read our IP addresses on connection. It helps to use this thing called a "router" which probably comes equipped with a "firewall" that makes the concept of launching a organized DDOS or other attack against a single internet user behind NAT a bit, well, batpoop silly to even say out loud :P I'd be okay with relying on the router firewall if I had access to its settings and knew that it was configured properly, but I don't. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
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Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
23
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:46:00 -
[331] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:I never understood what the different colors actually meant, and I've run several hundred Covert Research Facilities so I'm quite proficient in hacking (and doing so as quickly as possible).
It's generally based on difficulty, and the red and yellow cores are a bit stronger than the green ones. All of them requiring more skill than your average DDoS kiddie can muster. GöÇGòó The Explorer I GöÇGòó The Explorer II (Coming Soon!)
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Thegasp Cupcakes
CareBears Gone Dark Pina Colada Armada
11
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:48:00 -
[332] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:What a great idea, let's all go to an IRC channel where the opers can read our IP addresses on connection. It helps to use this thing called a "router" which probably comes equipped with a "firewall" that makes the concept of launching a organized DDOS or other attack against a single internet user behind NAT a bit, well, batpoop silly to even say out loud :P I'd be okay with relying on the router firewall if I had access to its settings and knew that it was configured properly, but I don't.
Besides, most (that you get from your isp) have many, many holes in the software.. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11308
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:51:00 -
[333] - Quote
Lucrii Dei wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I never understood what the different colors actually meant, and I've run several hundred Covert Research Facilities so I'm quite proficient in hacking (and doing so as quickly as possible). It's generally based on difficulty, and the red and yellow cores are a bit stronger than the green ones. All of them requiring more skill than your average DDoS kiddie can muster. Well when it gets to the... whatever that part is called I don't bother looking at the numbers, I just mash it until it's dead. Very rarely has this resulted in me failing the hack. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Tara Read
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
758
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:57:00 -
[334] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:UPDATE 08:30 - CONNECTIVITY TO TRANQUILITY HAS BEEN RESTORED
Sorry for the connectivity problems this morning guys, hopefully they're resolved now.
Apologies for any inconvenience!
- F
M..my drugs! My space drugs! Yeeessss precious! Visit my blog for all the latest in jeers and tears as well as news at http://hoistthecolors.org |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
228
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:01:00 -
[335] - Quote
SJ Astralana wrote:My web site hosted in Singapore is still unable to connect to the API, while my home computer in Australia can, so it appears the response has been to basically sever Asia from the Eve servers. I'll have to move my infrastructure to the western civilized world, so win win.
That's an excellent choice.
On another note: I love people claiming that CCP getting attacked and not responding is their own fault; imagine 100 000 people outside your house pelting it with rocks and your wife complaining about how you can't protect the windows from getting smashed in. |
Telis Guevera
Cathouse Club The Kadeshi
1
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:31:00 -
[336] - Quote
Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack.
I also played WoW and there is no need for DDoS because Blizzard would bust their servers by themselves often enough. Posting on my main, because not giving a f-word about like or not :) |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1230
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:36:00 -
[337] - Quote
I got in just now and a window opened saying that the node or proxy you are trying to access is dead ... say what? This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
83
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:42:00 -
[338] - Quote
Can I haz free skillpoints now pls? :> |
Steijn
Quay Industries
580
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:43:00 -
[339] - Quote
my thanks go to Somer for this unscheduled downtime which enabled me to spend time on r/l issues. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:52:00 -
[340] - Quote
Telis Guevera wrote:Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:Fabulous Visage wrote:People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!
Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location. I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack. I also played WoW and there is no need for DDoS because Blizzard would bust their servers by themselves often enough.
Blizzard was spanked like a couple of months ago. |
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Amanda Orion
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
24
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:07:00 -
[341] - Quote
It is not quite true to say there is nothing that can be done against a DDOS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYN_cookies |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1397
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:07:00 -
[342] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)
/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.
After reading your posts, one could be forgiven for suspecting you of being the script kiddie responsible for the attacks, attempting to use ideology to justify them but knowing deep down that you just want some attention. Whether that's true or not, people pay money to play this game not because they don't have a choice, not because the company makes them, but because they want to. Whether someone is trying to send an ideological message or just make CCP look bad, the question of whether or not they should be able to defend against a DDOS is irrelevant next to the more pertinent question of what sort of shitstain makes an attack against gamers like this in the first place?
what viable targets like Banks, Governments & suchlike ....
there's serious jail time attached to those targets games companies is just a slapped wrist in comparison |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2502
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:27:00 -
[343] - Quote
I demand some sort of compensation - I had to leave my basement for a few hours.
Does the above now make me a 'real' Eve Online player?
Joking, of course.
Well done CCP getting us up and running again. This is not a signature. |
Kaaii
Kaaii-Net Research Labs KAAII-NET
37
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:39:00 -
[344] - Quote
CCP 1 / Script kiddies 0
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2502
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:43:00 -
[345] - Quote
nm Kain wrote:Throughout the day the servers have been terribly unstable and it seems to be continuing into the night. Is CCP going to fix this DDoS crap or are we destined to be unable to play for days? It's seriously not hard to safeguard against a DDoS.
I am sureCCP would be happy to pay you handsomely if you can provide 100% DDoS protection for them.
If not, please stop making a complete fool of yourself in the forums. This is not a signature. |
Arline Kley
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
365
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:44:00 -
[346] - Quote
Fabulous Visage wrote:I'm drinking my tea FURIOUS! SIPPING IT WITH ANGER AND HATE!
I think I found your face during your tea drinking.. Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows |
Emiko P'eng
121
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:47:00 -
[347] - Quote
Humm!
Tranquility - Attacked! Dust 514 - Severely down on players at similar times, so I am assumed it was Attacked! Serenity - Still Down starting at a similar time, so I am assumed it was attacked and has not yet recovered! Forums - Difficult to get onto last night, so I assume they were part of the attack!
EVE-Offline & Dust514 Status Monitor CCP must have right royally pissed someone off to get such a comprehensive and sustained attack
My money would be on an ex-SomerBlink Customer
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Beta Maoye
34
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:58:00 -
[348] - Quote
Where do they find so many computers to use for their attack? |
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:03:00 -
[349] - Quote
You can scrub the traffic through a router farm dedicated to doing just that, using complex algorithms to mostly separate the bad and drop it while still sending the good on it's way.
But it's not something you just wave a wand and put in place.
It can be prohibitively expensive. It requires a break-in and development period where the scrubbers are programmed and tweaked for the specific network traffic they need to identify as safe and normal. On top of that you need specialized staff knowing how to adapt the programing to react to the various types of ddos that can be seen as well.
There's always a solution. It just isn't always an easy one, or realistic.
If I can offer you a suggestion:
you could contact tourny teams NOW and have them start accessing a separate IP caching website tonight/tomorrow (and again if they think their IP has changed at any point)
Use that site to pool lists of source /24s for all the teams players.
Depending on how awesome your networking team is on the fly, you can inject communities with your upstream providers to just poison ALL routes to the cluster before it ever even reaches you....except that select list of /24s the team players are on.
Doesn't help the rest of the playerbase, but would work for 'the show must go on' tomorrow. "The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain." |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
7351
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:06:00 -
[350] - Quote
Beta Maoye wrote:Where do they find so many computers to use for their attack? Infected PCs.
My tertiary connection gets affected now ... secondary still works ... ... are the servers getting attacked again? http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - CODE, RvB, the AT, and what DJEntropy said .... :) The Mew Age Calender is in need of models! Plus payment! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4908292#post4908292 |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11311
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:08:00 -
[351] - Quote
Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:You can scrub the traffic through a router farm dedicated to doing just that, using complex algorithms to mostly separate the bad and drop it while still sending the good on it's way. So what's the overhead of these "complex algorithms"? Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11311
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:09:00 -
[352] - Quote
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Sylar Dragonfly
Grim Sleepers Ocularis Inferno
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:13:00 -
[353] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.
its called downtime |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
3003
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:13:00 -
[354] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP. ...hmm |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11311
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:15:00 -
[355] - Quote
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP. its called downtime Really? Wow, I didn't know about that! Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Sylar Dragonfly
Grim Sleepers Ocularis Inferno
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:16:00 -
[356] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP. its called downtime Really? Wow, I didn't know about that!
I am not surprised by this |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11311
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:19:00 -
[357] - Quote
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP. its called downtime Really? Wow, I didn't know about that! I am not surprised by this I'm surprised you still haven't realized I was being sarcastic. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2255
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:30:00 -
[358] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP. its called downtime Really? Wow, I didn't know about that! I am not surprised by this I'm surprised you still haven't realized I was being sarcastic. and in both times [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Sylar Dragonfly
Grim Sleepers Ocularis Inferno
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:31:00 -
[359] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP. its called downtime Really? Wow, I didn't know about that! I am not surprised by this I'm surprised you still haven't realized I was being sarcastic.
The feeling is mutual. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24037
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:39:00 -
[360] - Quote
xRyokenx wrote:Up and down, then up and down. TQ is the new Vengaboys? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2255
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:41:00 -
[361] - Quote
Tippia wrote:xRyokenx wrote:Up and down, then up and down. TQ is the new Vengaboys? OHGODWHATHAVEYOUDONE!
THEMEMORIESOMFG!
BRAIN BLEACH! STAT!! [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Big Lynx
Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent
618
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:55:00 -
[362] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote: UPDATES - 22/08/2014:
UPDATE 06:55 - TRANQUILITY IS ONCE AGAIN EXPERIENCING ISSUES - WE ARE INVESTIGATING UPDATE 08:30 - CONNECTIVITY TO TRANQUILITY HAS BEEN RESTORED
UPDATES - 21/08/2014:
UPDATE - 18:10 - SERVICES ARE NOW COMING BACK ONLINE UPDATE - 19:20 - TRANQUILITY HAS EXPERIENCED A DDoS ATTACK - INVESTIGATION ONGOING UPDATE - 19:50 - TRANQUILITY HAS EXPERIENCED A SECOND ATTACK - WE'RE WORKING ON IT UPDATE - 21:20 - TRANQUILITY IS STILL UNDER DDoS ATTACK - APOLOGIES FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE UPDATE - 23:50 - TRANQUILITY HAS BEEN STABILIZED AND WE ARE WORKING ON RESOLVING ISSUES UPDATE - 00:30 - TRANQUILITY IS NOW STABLE AND ACCEPTING CONNECTIONS AGAIN
Somerblink rageing? xD |
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.22 11:56:00 -
[363] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:You can scrub the traffic through a router farm dedicated to doing just that, using complex algorithms to mostly separate the bad and drop it while still sending the good on it's way. So what's the overhead of these "complex algorithms"?
Packet or cost overhead?
First, zero. Second, hard to tell. I'm sure CCP has looked into it and could give you a better idea than I can. I dont know solid figures.
I'm to understand its very costly to hire anyone that can actually deliver. You're talking some incredibly expensive equipment coupled with nearly as expensive support.
My company has been developing our own in house solution to blunt the costs and we're hoping to roll out a product mid-next year. I was told there was no way we'd pay what bringing in an effective solution would cost, and my company makes at least a million to every one CCP dollar. "The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain." |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
859
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Posted - 2014.08.22 12:00:00 -
[364] - Quote
Couldn't log in last night, same again today.
Have you tried turning it off and on again CCP ? Failing that, let Tuxford have a go at fixing it. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2014.08.22 12:05:00 -
[365] - Quote
So apparently more people use the launcher than I had expected. Even more surprising is the amount of so-called bittervets.... |
Salladhar
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 12:09:00 -
[366] - Quote
oh pooh, I started this week, hope this does not happen, I really need to do my missions and do skills, *crys* Who is this happening, who is attacking us, can we stop them, what are they doing it for? What do they want? Is this illegal, can we swop servers or redirect them to a dead end?
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Fireslake
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:16:00 -
[367] - Quote
I started playing MMO's when Ultima Online came out.
What amuses me is that the posts regarding downtime have not changed in almost 20 years. LOL.
When EQ came out it would go down for 3 days at a time. Some dealt with it better than others of course.
But even after all these years and a significant increase in the general knowledge of how the internet works we still have the same posts:
1. "I hope we're going to be compensated for this."
2. "I'm going to sue them."
3. "Restart your computers."
Amazing. |
Todd Shadow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:17:00 -
[368] - Quote
Downtime just got extended another half hour (to 12:30 GMT).
I give up. I'm going to bed. Empty skill queue be damned. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6387
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:17:00 -
[369] - Quote
Salladhar wrote:oh pooh, I started this week, hope this does not happen, I really need to do my missions and do skills, *crys* Who is this happening, who is attacking us, can we stop them, what are they doing it for? What do they want? Is this illegal, can we swop servers or redirect them to a dead end? Redirecting you to a dead end ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Todd Shadow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:23:00 -
[370] - Quote
Fireslake wrote:I started playing MMO's when Ultima Online came out.
What amuses me is that the posts regarding downtime have not changed in almost 20 years. LOL.
When EQ came out it would go down for 3 days at a time. Some dealt with it better than others of course.
But even after all these years and a significant increase in the general knowledge of how the internet works we still have the same posts:
1. "I hope we're going to be compensated for this."
2. "I'm going to sue them."
3. "Restart your computers."
Amazing.
Not sure how I feel about compensation for just one day. But either way. It's not outrageous to expect compensation when you haven't provided a certain product to those who have paid for it. A small helping of unalocated SP would be a good gesture. You'd still have whiners. But thier going to whine no matter what.
But like I said. Worse case scenario, timewise, most anybody has lost is a days worth of skill point training. So compensation may be negligible anyway. |
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2255
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:23:00 -
[371] - Quote
Salladhar wrote:oh pooh, I started this week, hope this does not happen, I really need to do my missions and do skills, *crys* Who is this happening, who is attacking us, can we stop them, what are they doing it for? What do they want? Is this illegal, can we swop servers or redirect them to a dead end?
no sweat mon. Last time was... a year ago? [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
7402
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:26:00 -
[372] - Quote
Anyone who asks for compensation ....
*I throw cents on the ground...*
Take it, you scrubs. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - CODE, RvB, the AT, and what DJEntropy said .... :) The Mew Age Calender is in need of models! Plus payment! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4908292#post4908292 |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
3056
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:28:00 -
[373] - Quote
I was bummed about the extended downtime. Then I grabbed a bottle of whisky and suddenly things are looking up. Take your time CCP, take your time. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2256
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:30:00 -
[374] - Quote
Derrick Miles wrote:I was bummed about the extended downtime. Then I grabbed a bottle of whisky and suddenly things are looking up. Take your time CCP, take your time. in addition to that, here's a good one. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1398
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:32:00 -
[375] - Quote
Beta Maoye wrote:Where do they find so many computers to use for their attack?
All sorts of places, you have to remember the average PC owner is a clueless moron that thinks the screen is the computer and the beige box is just the modem.
at a guess some of it will be free 'extra' software bundled with :-
RMT transactions 'Free' game hacks certain online 'pill' purchases
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2256
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:36:00 -
[376] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:Beta Maoye wrote:Where do they find so many computers to use for their attack? All sorts of places, you have to remember the average PC owner is a clueless moron that thinks the screen is the computer and the beige box is just the modem. at a guess some of it will be free 'extra' software bundled with :- RMT transactions 'Free' game hacks certain online 'pill' purchases certain online sites for purchase of less-than-moral videos about intimate relationships between a man and a woman, or a man and a man, or a woman and another woman, or an animal and a man or woman or both. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 12:59:00 -
[377] - Quote
Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack.
Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc.
Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that.
It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2257
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 13:04:00 -
[378] - Quote
exactly my point in all this.
The DDoS mitigation level is proportional to how fat your wallet is. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Alastair Ormand
Running With Scissors. Apocalypse Now.
76
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 13:07:00 -
[379] - Quote
Wish this DDOS'r would use his botnet to target someone who deserves it. But I'm having trouble of thinking of who that would be. Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
6675
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 13:09:00 -
[380] - Quote
Alastair Ormand wrote:Wish this DDOS'r would use his botnet to target someone who deserves it. But I'm having trouble of thinking of who that would be.
Comcast? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
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momo Isimazu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 13:09:00 -
[381] - Quote
I think CCP pissed off the Russians. |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
7423
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 13:09:00 -
[382] - Quote
It's hilarious that people who have no clue how things work ... ... believe they should have an opinion.
Scrubs. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - CODE, RvB, the AT, and what DJEntropy said .... :)
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
3063
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 13:10:00 -
[383] - Quote
Amhra Rho wrote:Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack. Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc. Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that. It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though. I'm confused...how do you even know what kind of attack it was and who did it? |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 13:27:00 -
[384] - Quote
Derrick Miles wrote:Amhra Rho wrote:Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack. Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc. Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that. It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though. I'm confused...how do you even know what kind of attack it was and who did it? Because CCP confirmed the type of attack (not that they needed to - it was pretty obvious), and the script kiddies themselves came to the kitchen table with sticky hands.
There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Steijn
Quay Industries
581
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:09:00 -
[385] - Quote
its died again, nothing via exe or via launcher, in UK. |
Sneekeypete NZXT
Stratos Corp
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:10:00 -
[386] - Quote
So I'm guessing Eve just took a dive again. |
111kartel111
O.M.F.G LLC
10
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:10:00 -
[387] - Quote
Crashed again here also US east coast.
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Enthropic
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
110
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:10:00 -
[388] - Quote
Its Bob's will, Fozzie ;)
edit: and apparently the server is up again |
Partricia Solette
TMA UNITED The Methodical Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:11:00 -
[389] - Quote
ok who pressed the wrong button??? |
Steijn
Quay Industries
581
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:12:00 -
[390] - Quote
instead of #SSDD its #SSA (Somer strikes again) |
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April Chriqui
Action Indirecte
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:12:00 -
[391] - Quote
Did you guys remember to feed the hampsters??? |
111kartel111
O.M.F.G LLC
10
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:13:00 -
[392] - Quote
Steijn wrote:instead of #SSDD its #SSA (Somer strikes again)
^^^^^ This ^^^^^ |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:15:00 -
[393] - Quote
And some people here were saying we shouldn't jail these twerps. Really? There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Sneekeypete NZXT
Stratos Corp
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:15:00 -
[394] - Quote
Amhra Rho wrote:Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack. Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc. Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that. It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though.
Ha, I'm a Sr. NOC Engineer and I'm currently looking at the health status of our checkpoint appliance. And yea these people need to google what the hel a load balancer is. |
Metawulf
SELEKTA Corporation
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:15:00 -
[395] - Quote
momo Isimazu wrote:I think CCP pissed off the Russians. Why always russians? We are not villains! Not everyone at least. Not today, at least. Putin said I can have a day-off today. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2502
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:16:00 -
[396] - Quote
Down again in the UK?
Time 15.30 This is not a signature. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
78
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:16:00 -
[397] - Quote
Ok i've had enough now...grrrrrrr goons (well they get blamed for everything else) I'm off to the pub for stress relief :-) |
Steijn
Quay Industries
581
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:16:00 -
[398] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Down again in the UK?
Time 15.30
launcher just came back in UK, not tried logging in yet, i'll wait. |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
457
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:17:00 -
[399] - Quote
https://www.facebook.com/TheMittani/posts/681403171912597?stream_ref=10
This is why it is happening - insight provided from the "anti-ganking" channel leader. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2502
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:18:00 -
[400] - Quote
Steijn wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Down again in the UK?
Time 15.30 launcher just came back in UK, not tried logging in yet, i'll wait.
Tried again - got connected, so all is good...for now at least.
Oh well, these things happen. This is not a signature. |
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Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:21:00 -
[401] - Quote
It's not Anonymous. We know who it is.
If nothing else, Anonymous would be embarrassed by the amateurishness of this type of script kiddy attack. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
NatOsirisRa
Shadowed Command
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:22:00 -
[402] - Quote
B+ªring Gunnar Stein+++¦rsson at CCP has set up a webpage showing the seismic activity under the B+ír+¦arbunga volcano, located under Vatnaj+¦kull glacier, in 3D. B+ªring uses the data from apis.is, visir.is reports.
http://volcanocafe.wordpress.com/2014/08/22/a-note-to-tourists-not-only-for-bardarbunga-and-dyngjujokull/
but why you useing our paid for servers to run your little science project? |
Amber Kurvora
193
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:22:00 -
[403] - Quote
What...the actual ****? The guy has been drinking way too much koolaid for his own good. o.O |
Hengle Teron
Mew Age Outpaws
38
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:23:00 -
[404] - Quote
DDOS protection too expensive ? Come on even a private WoW server has an effective DDOS protection. |
Fireslake
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:24:00 -
[405] - Quote
Todd Shadow wrote:Fireslake wrote:I started playing MMO's when Ultima Online came out.
What amuses me is that the posts regarding downtime have not changed in almost 20 years. LOL.
When EQ came out it would go down for 3 days at a time. Some dealt with it better than others of course.
But even after all these years and a significant increase in the general knowledge of how the internet works we still have the same posts:
1. "I hope we're going to be compensated for this."
2. "I'm going to sue them."
3. "Restart your computers."
Amazing. Not sure how I feel about compensation for just one day. But either way. It's not outrageous to expect compensation when you haven't provided a certain product to those who have paid for it. A small helping of unalocated SP would be a good gesture. You'd still have whiners. But thier going to whine no matter what. But like I said. Worse case scenario, timewise, most anybody has lost is a days worth of skill point training. So compensation may be negligible anyway.
No offense, but if your life revolves around the availability of a video game and you seek compensation for downtime then you need to review your life. |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:25:00 -
[406] - Quote
Yeppers. There's that too. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Steijn
Quay Industries
581
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:25:00 -
[407] - Quote
Fireslake wrote:Todd Shadow wrote:Fireslake wrote:I started playing MMO's when Ultima Online came out.
What amuses me is that the posts regarding downtime have not changed in almost 20 years. LOL.
When EQ came out it would go down for 3 days at a time. Some dealt with it better than others of course.
But even after all these years and a significant increase in the general knowledge of how the internet works we still have the same posts:
1. "I hope we're going to be compensated for this."
2. "I'm going to sue them."
3. "Restart your computers."
Amazing. Not sure how I feel about compensation for just one day. But either way. It's not outrageous to expect compensation when you haven't provided a certain product to those who have paid for it. A small helping of unalocated SP would be a good gesture. You'd still have whiners. But thier going to whine no matter what. But like I said. Worse case scenario, timewise, most anybody has lost is a days worth of skill point training. So compensation may be negligible anyway. No offense, but if your life revolves around the availability of a video game and you seek compensation for downtime then you need to review your life.
They should just pay out Somers assets as compensation.
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NatOsirisRa
Shadowed Command
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:29:00 -
[408] - Quote
Fireslake wrote:Todd Shadow wrote:Fireslake wrote:I started playing MMO's when Ultima Online came out.
What amuses me is that the posts regarding downtime have not changed in almost 20 years. LOL.
When EQ came out it would go down for 3 days at a time. Some dealt with it better than others of course.
But even after all these years and a significant increase in the general knowledge of how the internet works we still have the same posts:
1. "I hope we're going to be compensated for this."
2. "I'm going to sue them."
3. "Restart your computers."
Amazing. Not sure how I feel about compensation for just one day. But either way. It's not outrageous to expect compensation when you haven't provided a certain product to those who have paid for it. A small helping of unalocated SP would be a good gesture. You'd still have whiners. But thier going to whine no matter what. But like I said. Worse case scenario, timewise, most anybody has lost is a days worth of skill point training. So compensation may be negligible anyway. No offense, but if your life revolves around the availability of a video game and you seek compensation for downtime then you need to review your life.
some people play this as a break from what you call RL. you know, getting up at 5am everyday with baby, cleaning up, changing his nappies, making him milk, and real food, then repeat cleaning and nappy process again, b4 its time for lunch maybe youll have enough time to clean the dishes and other house work b4 then, so you can repet the process again and again, with maybe an hours break to "PLAY EVE" b4 bed time so you can start REAL LIFE over again like groundhog day tomorrow.
YOU GOT NO CLUE WHAT REAL LIFE IS, or peoples time for R&R |
Jake Rivers
Senex Legio
217
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:47:00 -
[409] - Quote
Everytime CCP stomps a RMT operation into the ground they throw a tantrum and attack the servers. Senex Legio |
Urias Bephet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 14:56:00 -
[410] - Quote
As long as you gave him this money to play eve and that's what you were doing, it's no longer your money but his money. So what he's doing with it is no longer your business as long as it isn't illegal. And in my opinion, survey a volvano near the place i live is quite a good activity to let me the time to pick up my family and drive away.
Did you give monthly your boss a report of your activties and the related use of his money ?
Boss: I minused your salary by 19$-úGé¼ cause you used it for online gaming and i'm not agree with this kind of activities. |
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Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 15:09:00 -
[411] - Quote
Urias Bephet wrote:As long as you gave him this money to play eve and that's what you were doing, it's no longer your money but his money. So what he's doing with it is no longer your business as long as it isn't illegal. And in my opinion, survey a volvano near the place i live is quite a good activity to let me the time to pick up my family and drive away. Did you give monthly your boss a report of your activties and the related use of his money ? Boss: I minused your salary by 19$-úGé¼ cause you used it for online gaming and i'm not agree with this kind of activities. You're jousting at the wrong windmill. I couldn't care less who used what server for what.
I do want to know what's going on what that damm volcano, though, and I do want snotnosed script kiddies heavily fined and put in jail for stealing my bought-and-paid-for game time. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Urias Bephet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 15:15:00 -
[412] - Quote
Amhra Rho wrote:I do want to know what's going on what that damm volcano, though, and I do want snotnosed script kiddies heavily fined and put in jail for stealing my bought-and-paid-for game time.
Or, trace route their activities, find their places, publish them and let the nearby community physicaly solve the problem. \o/ |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1143
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 15:20:00 -
[413] - Quote
Amhra Rho wrote: I do want snotnosed script kiddies heavily fined and put in jail for stealing my bought-and-paid-for game time.
In the USA you get a 20,000 fine for stealing a 99 cent song so these guys would probably get life in prison without parole. The problem is many hackers come from countries where they're not interested in finding or locking them up.
I'm not saying give them prison time but at least put them on probation where they're not allowed to use computers for a year or so. |
Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
721
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 15:32:00 -
[414] - Quote
IIshira wrote:Amhra Rho wrote: I do want snotnosed script kiddies heavily fined and put in jail for stealing my bought-and-paid-for game time.
In the USA you get a 20,000 fine for stealing a 99 cent song so these guys would probably get life in prison without parole. The problem is many hackers come from countries where they're not interested in finding or locking them up. I'm not saying give them prison time but at least put them on probation where they're not allowed to use computers for a year or so.
Just a juicy fine will work. Hiding your use of a tablet, smartphone, laptop, or any of the other myriad of networked devices is pretty easy. Hiding from your local government's financial bureau is not.
But anyways.... Eventually Somer will run out of bitcoins and everything will go back to normal. It's just a video game folks, call this another part of playing the meta if you want. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
crimsonshank
Percussus Resurgo.
15
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 15:55:00 -
[415] - Quote
NatOsirisRa wrote:Fireslake wrote:Todd Shadow wrote:Fireslake wrote:I started playing MMO's when Ultima Online came out.
What amuses me is that the posts regarding downtime have not changed in almost 20 years. LOL.
When EQ came out it would go down for 3 days at a time. Some dealt with it better than others of course.
But even after all these years and a significant increase in the general knowledge of how the internet works we still have the same posts:
1. "I hope we're going to be compensated for this."
2. "I'm going to sue them."
3. "Restart your computers."
Amazing. Not sure how I feel about compensation for just one day. But either way. It's not outrageous to expect compensation when you haven't provided a certain product to those who have paid for it. A small helping of unalocated SP would be a good gesture. You'd still have whiners. But thier going to whine no matter what. But like I said. Worse case scenario, timewise, most anybody has lost is a days worth of skill point training. So compensation may be negligible anyway. No offense, but if your life revolves around the availability of a video game and you seek compensation for downtime then you need to review your life. some people play this as a break from what you call RL. you know, getting up at 5am everyday with baby, cleaning up, changing his nappies, making him milk, and real food, then repeat cleaning and nappy process again, b4 its time for lunch maybe youll have enough time to clean the dishes and other house work b4 then, so you can repet the process again and again, with maybe an hours break to "PLAY EVE" b4 bed time so you can start REAL LIFE over again like groundhog day tomorrow. YOU GOT NO CLUE WHAT REAL LIFE IS, or peoples time for R&R
If you didn't want children next time use a contraceptive instead of whine on the forums about it.
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crimsonshank
Percussus Resurgo.
15
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 15:57:00 -
[416] - Quote
Urias Bephet wrote:Amhra Rho wrote:I do want to know what's going on what that damm volcano, though, and I do want snotnosed script kiddies heavily fined and put in jail for stealing my bought-and-paid-for game time. Or, trace route their activities, find their places, publish them and let the nearby community physicaly solve the problem. \o/
That would work because the nearby community cares your internet spaceships got interrupted for a few hours :rollseyes: |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4426
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Posted - 2014.08.22 16:07:00 -
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Would it be possible for CCP to give us a number on how many queries they had to deal with above their usual amount or is this restricted information for security reasons? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Thegasp Cupcakes
CareBears Gone Dark Pina Colada Armada
13
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Posted - 2014.08.22 16:34:00 -
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If i was CCP, i wouldn't waste money on preventing this kid's attack.. For one, he gets distracted too quickly, servers were interrupted for what? 60 seconds this time?
If he does it again, expect the servers to be back normal within the hour. |
Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.08.22 16:34:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Would it be possible for CCP to give us a number on how many queries they had to deal with above their usual amount or is this restricted information for security reasons? Honestly, that kind of information only feeds the scriptkiddies props for their effforts. No point telling anyone anything when all upsets attributed to these kinds of chaosmongers are used as advertisements of their prowess and ability. Screw them. Just go on about things like it doesn't matter, because, honestly, it doesn't. A few hours of time loss, unless it caused a loss of SOV or your POS network exploded from lack of fuel (in which case the procrastination would be more to blame than the downtime) won't really negatively affect most players in EVE. |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
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Posted - 2014.08.22 16:46:00 -
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Thegasp Cupcakes wrote:If i was CCP, i wouldn't waste money on preventing this kid's attack.. For one, he gets distracted too quickly, servers were interrupted for what? 60 seconds this time?
If he does it again, expect the servers to be back normal within the hour. I calculated six hours and fifty-one minutes, and that was just one of the occurrences. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
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Thegasp Cupcakes
CareBears Gone Dark Pina Colada Armada
13
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Posted - 2014.08.22 16:57:00 -
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Amhra Rho wrote:Thegasp Cupcakes wrote:If i was CCP, i wouldn't waste money on preventing this kid's attack.. For one, he gets distracted too quickly, servers were interrupted for what? 60 seconds this time?
If he does it again, expect the servers to be back normal within the hour. I calculated six hours and fifty-one minutes, and that was just one of the occurrences.
60s in reference to his latest hit, hes getting more and more like the hyperactive ADHD child he is.. he doesn't stay on anything long, compared to what has hit CCP before. Hes getting bored, and he has no reason, people with reason wait, and wait.. Eve Pilots should know this.. The ones that wait, should be feared.
BUT.. Hes just a kid (or equivalent), and hes bored, I doubt he will be taking EvE down for many hours again. He attacked asla.org (charity) for about 2 minutes after Eve online.. I bet asla didn't even notice their site was unreachable.. If it didn't knock us out of game, we probably wouldn't have noticed either (last time). |
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:26:00 -
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Amhra Rho wrote:Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack. Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc. Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that. It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though.
Lol i have individual optics on my desk right now worth more than 70k.
Most the things you talk about will not protect you from any serious attack. Hell, not even a moderate one.
I'm not sure what raw throughput is being generated by these attacks, or what specific forms they are using but I've seen small botnets takedown routers which cost far more than 70k and generate unreal Gbps in raw traffic.
Trying to weather the brunt of serious attacks and processing packet by packet your way through it could translate into millions of dollars. This is really the big problem w serious ddos. Its just so...much...crap the equipment or even circuits just get overwhelmed.
To say "geez ccp, just loadbalance" is so Lol it really makes the lack of knowledge on the topic self evident. (I know this and im not even an expert in security)
If you arent a big boy (larger corporations, which ccp is not) usually your best bet is to kill the traffic before it gets to you.
And unfortunately a lot of times that means either lopping off /20's or even lists of /16's to /12's on your provider side (killing traffic from entire nations and continents) or... just killing routing to the target of the attack itself.
"The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain." |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:03:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:Amhra Rho wrote:Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack. Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc. Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that. It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though. Lol i have individual optics on my desk right now worth more than 70k. Most the things you talk about will not protect you from any serious attack. Hell, not even a moderate one. I'm not sure what raw throughput is being generated by these attacks, or what specific forms they are using but I've seen small botnets takedown routers which cost far more than 70k and generate unreal Gbps in raw traffic. Trying to weather the brunt of serious attacks and processing packet by packet your way through it could translate into millions of dollars. This is really the big problem w serious ddos. Its just so...much...crap the equipment or even circuits just get overwhelmed. To say "geez ccp, just loadbalance" is so Lol it really makes the lack of knowledge on the topic self evident. (I know this and im not even an expert in security) If you arent a big boy (larger corporations, which ccp is not) usually your best bet is to kill the traffic before it gets to you. And unfortunately a lot of times that means either lopping off /20's or even lists of /16's to /12's on your provider side (killing traffic from entire nations and continents) or... just killing routing to the target of the attack itself. Oh, geez. There's so much wrong with this, I hardly know where to start. I didn't even say half the things you say I did.
You already do packet-by-packet inspection of every packet that comes in to your network from the cloud. And we already know exactly what type of bandwidth these a DDoS attack will generate because we know just about everything about modern DDoS attacks from constant exposure and analysis. A DDoS generates GB of trash, you say? It sure does. So the Checkpoint I mention is indeed spec'd in the GB of translated data throughput. If you need more than one, buy more than one, or buy one of Checkpoint's bigger ones - the one I use in my example is about mid-lvl.
Now we're in agreement about pre-processing being the best solution. That's why you load balance - you set up a preprocessor before each gateway load balancer. Did I suggest that CCP deploy this strategy? No. I pretty much suggested the opposite - that it would be too expensive by far for a small gaming company to consider. For a small gaming company, you'd better just maximize design logistics (European castle, Asian castle, etc.), and do what filtering that's practical.
Look, you admit that you're not an IT security wonk. I get it! Leave that job to me. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
55
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:06:00 -
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"Posted: 2014.08.21 17:57"
Still working at 17:57... CCP must be paying some nice overtimes. |
NiteNinja
The Black Dynasty Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
19
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:16:00 -
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We were briefly hit again this morning EDT (Not too long after downtime) but didn't last 7 hours like yesterday.
You would think Lizard Squad would've left a digital fingerprint somewhere. Even if the IP address is blocked/scrambled, a hardware address can be pulled from it, and so on.
Anyone using the EVE Launcher gets kicked right away when the Logon server goes down, but anyone who launches from exefile.exe stayed connected and just had some serious lag when the Distributed Denial of Service attacks happened (unless the user disconnected because of lag).
I'm sure someone above linked Lizard Squad's Twitter feed, too lazy to dig through 22 pages of posts, but you can see what they're doing there.
Chribba's nice little eve-offline.net tool really helped troubleshoot that it was a DDoS and not an issue with my client/connection.
And thanks to CCP in keeping people up to date on their server status twitter feed. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
38
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:19:00 -
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Tippia wrote:xRyokenx wrote:Up and down, then up and down. TQ is the new Vengaboys? yesh ^^ I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
34
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:28:00 -
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Amhra Rho wrote:Look, you admit that you're not an IT security wonk. I get it! Leave that job to me.
Oh look, it's THIS **** again.
Your idea of being a 'security expert' lines right up there with "Installing Norton"
Here's the brass tacks cupcake, based on some of your other previous statements:
these giant anti-DDoS systems cost money. LOTS of it.
Last year Fiscal 2013, CCP Games generated 23 million in revenue, which you've been comparing the service they provide to Amazon several times. Amazon made 74.45 BILLION.
Amazon can afford these things. And they still suffer outages from time to time. CCP Games? Not so much.
Get over yourself. "Security Expert".
Pssssssshhhhhhh. |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
332
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:40:00 -
[428] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Amhra Rho wrote:Look, you admit that you're not an IT security wonk. I get it! Leave that job to me. Oh look, it's THIS **** again. Your idea of being a 'security expert' lines right up there with "Installing Norton" Here's the brass tacks cupcake, based on some of your other previous statements: these giant anti-DDoS systems cost money. LOTS of it. Last year Fiscal 2013, CCP Games generated 23 million in revenue, which you've been comparing the service they provide to Amazon several times. Amazon made 74.45 BILLION. Amazon can afford these things. And they still suffer outages from time to time. CCP Games? Not so much. Get over yourself. "Security Expert". Pssssssshhhhhhh. Oh, so cuuuuuute. Someone named Carribean Queen is telling me stuff he doesn't know the first thing about. Oh, look - he doesn't even have the first clue about what I've even written!
There, there. Run along now . . . There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:53:00 -
[429] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:IIshira wrote:
Remind me not to mess with your Eve time... I was going to suggest a few months in Mexican prison lol
Confirming that jokes about inhumane prison conditions are top level comedy, right up there with jokes about getting sexually assaulted in prison. Way to take the high road, IIshira :P Though, I admit, your response is a lot more rational and level headed then shooting people in the head lol :P
Sooo, someone from Code pulling someone up about their attitude?
Thats different. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:03:00 -
[430] - Quote
IIshira wrote:SF BrooD wrote:i wish i could pew pew, i blew my gf off tonight so i could pew pew and now its no sex and now pew, im very sad... Wow I think you need more downtime from Eve. If you keep blowing her off she might find someone else who won't
Or at least blow her off then play ^^
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2158
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Posted - 2014.08.22 22:34:00 -
[431] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:UPDATE 08:30 - CONNECTIVITY TO TRANQUILITY HAS BEEN RESTORED
Sorry for the connectivity problems this morning guys, hopefully they're resolved now.
Apologies for any inconvenience!
- F
You've had a hell of a long week, haven't you? Would buy liquor if I were anywhere close. Nicely done, all in all. |
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.23 14:04:00 -
[432] - Quote
Amhra Rho wrote: Oh, geez. There's so much wrong with this, I hardly know where to start. I didn't even say half the things you say I did.
You already do packet-by-packet inspection of every packet that comes in to your network from the cloud. And we already know exactly what type of bandwidth these a DDoS attack will generate because we know just about everything about modern DDoS attacks from constant exposure and analysis. A DDoS generates GB of trash, you say? It sure does. So the Checkpoint I mention is indeed spec'd in the GB of translated data throughput. If you need more than one, buy more than one, or buy one of Checkpoint's bigger ones - the one I use in my example is about mid-lvl.
Now we're in agreement about pre-processing being the best solution. That's why you load balance - you set up a preprocessor before each gateway load balancer. Did I suggest that CCP deploy this strategy? No. I pretty much suggested the opposite - that it would be too expensive by far for a small gaming company to consider. For a small gaming company, you'd better just maximize design logistics (European castle, Asian castle, etc.), and do what filtering that's practical.
Look, you admit that you're not an IT security wonk. I get it! Leave that job to me.
I'm not an IT person, I'm a networking person. If you work for a company where you do both, you aren't fixing this problem yourself as they already haven't dedicated the resources needed to take either job incredibly seriously (usually small-med sized businesses dont need to). So, it is possible we're talking past each other a bit, as it's one thing to overload an auth server and another to bring someones network to a stop or to saturate their peering points.
If you're talking routers (and not some dell box running router software), the tax on system resources increases logarithmically as you increase the various types of rules. IP table look ups are one thing. But you need to examine a lot of different aspects of a packet to tell the good from the bad. Thus the more discriminate you wish to be, the more rules you'll need. This will involve different types of lookups which translate into different processes run by a different daemons on the device. The more rules you have, the more stressful traffic analysis becomes. This is essential understanding for any "serious" ddos as you will not be receiving uniform source destinations, packet types and even completely valid headers. That's how you take down routers (as in the device itself).
If you can "load balance", "preprocess" this, or whatever away with a firewall, you're probably not dealing with a very complex attack. Either it's going to be designed to cruise right past your typical firewall or saturate the links to the firewall.
This is why major networks don't have magical firewalls at every peer point. Your router is in its policies a firewall. If it was that easy, everyone would do it and be untouchable by DDoS attacks.
Less refined attacks that are a simple mass of udp or whatever can be processed, but again, usually used to overload circuits. You don't just load balance this away on the fly if it happens to you. Unless your bottleneck is in your datacenter and you can have someone run in there and start running cables :P (it isn't so you wont be) , you need to stop that traffic before it ever reaches your circuits or network. This isn't "preprocessing", this is killing it on an completely separate upstream network from yours or poisoning the route entirely so many AS's away someone says "hey I don't have a route to that" or "hey, i'm not supposed to pass along anything from you to that other place"
I did not say a DDoS generates GB of trash. I said it can generate many Gbps of raw traffic. These statements are not equivalent in any way.
-Trash is more easily taken out than traffic that is designed to appear legitimate. -A GB is a specific volume set. A value usually reserved for disk size. Gbps is a rate of volume over time usually reserved for communication rates (hey, network speed!).
That aside there is a huge difference between GBps and Gbps and GB and Gb. And while you can easily convert between the two, absolutely no one that actually works with this stuff, uses big Bs for anything but disk space and no one uses anything but little b's for rates nor would they confuse the two. That's usually the point where they fail the interview. "The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain." |
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