The bounty system may be broken, but bounties should never allow a person to be attacked in high-sec. A sec standing hit isn't much concern for a dedicated troll, you can just buy yourself back into good graces with Concord via tags. Furthermore, it would be odd if placing bounties on someone who illegally ganked your ship etc. resulted in a sec status drop on your behalf.

Bounty Price = X
Value in ISK of items (including implants) Destroyed by the Bounty Hunter = Y
Bounty Collected = BC

If SHIP and POD is killed
X/Y*20=BC where BC cannot Exceed X

If ship alone is killed
X/Y*20*.75=BC where bounty collected cannot exceed X*.75

This is an unproductive reply. If you would like to discuss it, suggest something in return. Simply saying "or nah" is not going to further anything.

So, the more expensive the ship that you kill, the less ISK you receive. Great idea!

A couple shuttles, and you get to conveniently clear your entire bounty at a profit.

And that's aside from everything else wrong with your proposal.

Um, what? He's not the one arguing for change, the onus to prove your argument is entirely on you.

Simply saying, "nope, bad idea" is completely acceptable.

If you're just going to spit out nonsense try to spin out of any criticism, that's all you're going to get, what's more. Well, besides locked.

The Bounty System is currently in a state of disrepair.

Citation needed.

Nevermind that, giving people a negative sec status hit for using the feature is a damn sight more broken than anything that's wrong with it right now.

Or any of the other convoluted nonsense you assailed us with.

Let me give you a tip, by the way. Bounties do not exist so that people can feel "they have received justice". They do not exist to give out huge payouts for comparatively little work. And they do not need a negative effect of applying them.

Taking away player freedom is never the answer.

Actually, it does make sense to give negative status. You're literally putting a hit order on someone. Do you even think before you type?

It's not taking away player freedom. You're an idiot and I'm done responding if you continue to be one. haha.

Personally, I think that the bounty system and the kill-rights system should be merged.

If a player places a bounty of 1m isk on X, then anyone can activate the bounty (much like the kill-rights system), 1m is removed from the player that placed the bounty and held in escrow. Player claiming the bounty needs to kill X in (some determined time allowance), else the bounty is forfeited, and returned to the player that placed the bounty... possibly with a punative percentage against false/failed bounty claimers, going towards Concord or something.

Bounties would not be placable on players < 4 weeks old (same timespan as rookie chat), OR players in rookie systems.

Course, this'll make high-sec unplayable for the majority of carebears, and will only encourage groups like Marmites and CODE, so it'll never be implemented in this fashion. I daresay that there would be more aspects that fall afoul of Malcanis' Law that I can't forsee either.

Yes, it is taking away player freedom, by trying to put a penalty on activity that was previously unrestricted.

For no reason, I might add. Probably because you're butthurt about someone handing a bounty on you for lipping off, I suspect.

Woops good point. Had them in the wrong order and left something out. haha. Thanks. What were the other issues you had with it?

If SHIP and POD is killed
Y/X*20*100=%BC where BC cannot Exceed X

If ship alone is killed
Y/X*20*.75*100=%BC where bounty collected cannot exceed X*.75

Actually it's not taking away player freedom anymore than limiting the size of jetcans (maybe you're too NEW to remember that. not sure.) limited player freedom to put things in cans. Sometimes changes... well... change things.

So, the bigger the bounty, the less ISK you receive. Great Idea!

Also, learn to use parenthesis in your formula.


The current bounty system is not trivially abuseable and fulfills the requirements of a bounty system, so it's just fine.

Those two things have nothing to do with one another.

You are talking about an activity, that previous is not restricted in any way. I can put a bounty on anyone I like, for any reason. If I don't like their stupid repetitive name, or if they lipped off in local, or if they're flying a ship I don't like. I have complete freedom to do as I wish with the mechanic.

You are suggesting that I face a steep penalty for doing what was, before, completely unrestricted.

That is curtailing player freedom. Stop lying about it, it's obviously what you were going for, so at least be a man and fess up to it.

I'm talking about changing something. Yes. Things change when you change them. Get over it. That was the point of the thread. To CHANGE the bounty system. Go somewhere else. Lol.

Change for it's own sake is an inherently flawed concept, often worsening a situation. First, it would be nice if you could demonstrate precisely what is wrong with being able to place bounties on anyone I feel like without restriction or punishment.

Until you've established that, you're just pissing in the wind.

So, why should we change the bounty system? Because "it bothers me" isn't good enough of a reason to change anything but your own wardrobe.

Actually it is.

Actually no. The bigger the ship is in comparison to the bounty, the larger PERCENT of the bounty you receive. Basically this keeps you from cashing in on a 150 million bounty by killing a rifter.

Say the bounty is 100m. You kill a 2 million dollar ship. Then you only get 40% of the bounty (assuming you kill the pod too). 4million dollar ship i s 80% (with pod) and 5 mil is 100%. however it will never go over the cap (whatever the bounty is)

2/100*20*100=40%BC

Ps. Formula works fine without them.

That brings us back to the problem that the current bounty system fixed quite handily.

You're not important enough for the game to change anything for your sake. Not by a mile. Your hubris is almost as baffling as your stupidity.

So, you're saying that to get a 100m ISK bounty, all I have to do is kill myself in a 4m ISK ship to make a 96m ISK profit? Great idea!

That brings us back to the problem that the current bounty system fixed quite handily.

Fortunately you have literally 0 say in whether this gets changed ;) . HAH

Did you read it? You can only receive the Bounty payout by receiving the bounty as a mission. Think mission npcs will give you yourself as a mission?

Just post TL;DR next time if you can't read. We won't judge.

Would you believe me if I told you that alts were not unheard of in EVE?

Did you read it? You can only receive the Bounty payout by receiving the bounty as a mission. Think mission npcs will give you yourself as a mission?

Just post TL;DR next time if you can't read. We won't judge.

So while it may not outright fix something that's ALREADY an issue, it will help to fix it.

In the current system, any alt can ALREADY collect the bounty. this will make that happen less often and be more difficult (you would have to randomly receive the bounty of your main out of the huge pool of other bounties)

So while it may not outright fix something that's ALREADY an issue, it will help to fix it.

In the current system, any alt can ALREADY collect the bounty. this will make that happen less often and be more difficult to achieve (you would have to randomly receive the bounty of your main out of the huge pool of other bounties).

So while it may not outright fix something that's ALREADY an issue, it will help to fix it.