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Veskrashen Justified Chaos 408	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:59:00 - [31] - Quote Irya Boone wrote: Shad owLord wrote: Irya Boone wrote: I guess Now it's the signal for Calmil to come to take it's systems Back so the pendulum swing will continue like a clock of the universe. The pendulum broke after Kronos Why ? kronos only reduce alt farmers ability to run plexes easy mode Which, like it or not, was a big part of the pendulum. My militia mates who made such a huge push over the past few weeks put in a LOT of concentrated effort to move the WZ as quickly as they did. If we'd had to deal with the alt farmer hordes of olde, it would have been a LOT more difficult to accomplish. Kronos was a huge deal for WZ control. It's part of why we made the pre-Kronos push to give ourselves a buffer, and part of why it's been comparatively easy to maintain WZ control since that time. We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 1894	Posted - 2014.08.26 12:03:00 - [32] - Quote Posting in the mother of all galmil circlejerk threads! Manly hugs to all my galmil bros, big thanks to ceos/fcs/space truckers. Galmil rulez! Let's take the Minnie/Amarr warzone, too! Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Shad owLord The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted. 6	Posted - 2014.08.26 12:11:00 - [33] - Quote Veskrashen wrote: Irya Boone wrote: Shad owLord wrote: Irya Boone wrote: I guess Now it's the signal for Calmil to come to take it's systems Back so the pendulum swing will continue like a clock of the universe. The pendulum broke after Kronos Why ? kronos only reduce alt farmers ability to run plexes easy mode Which, like it or not, was a big part of the pendulum. My militia mates who made such a huge push over the past few weeks put in a LOT of concentrated effort to move the WZ as quickly as they did. If we'd had to deal with the alt farmer hordes of olde, it would have been a LOT more difficult to accomplish. Kronos was a huge deal for WZ control. It's part of why we made the pre-Kronos push to give ourselves a buffer, and part of why it's been comparatively easy to maintain WZ control since that time. ^ This and add in that Large plex's now account for 25% of the sites, and Caldari cannot (due to not enough high sp players) field hacs to counter the Gallente hac fleets they deploy in the larges means calmil have to concede them. Im not saying its Gal's or Cal's fault, just maybe an unintentional side effect of Kronos - hence at present the pendulum is broken
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 43	Posted - 2014.08.26 12:13:00 - [34] - Quote Congrats to all! o7 Just Add Water
Lira Sarain Moira. Villore Accords 0	Posted - 2014.08.26 12:38:00 - [35] - Quote A solid effort thanks to all involved for staying the course. Even you Crosi Wesdo!
Crosi Wesdo War and Order Repeat 0ffenders 1081	Posted - 2014.08.26 14:08:00 - [36] - Quote Epikurus wrote: Grats on the win! Question for those who have been around for a clean sweep before: what happens now? Do the systems stay as they are or do they get reset? Our screens faded to black and credits rolled. Now we all have to make new characters. Im thinking of a wood elf this time.
Deacon Abox Justified Chaos 372	Posted - 2014.08.26 14:14:00 - [37] - Quote Veskrashen wrote: Irya Boone wrote: Shad owLord wrote: The pendulum broke after Kronos Why ? kronos only reduce alt farmers ability to run plexes easy mode Which, like it or not, was a big part of the pendulum. My militia mates who made such a huge push over the past few weeks put in a LOT of concentrated effort to move the WZ as quickly as they did. If we'd had to deal with the alt farmer hordes of olde, it would have been a LOT more difficult to accomplish. Kronos was a huge deal for WZ control. It's part of why we made the pre-Kronos push to give ourselves a buffer, and part of why it's been comparatively easy to maintain WZ control since that time. Yeah, actually this time it was anti-climactic. The previous time many of us were madly scrambling in dispersed fleets all over the warzone putting out fires to keep the systems in Galmil hands. Now the pve lp thirsty Calmil farming hordes, and the few honorable Calmil pvp foes, either logged on their Galmil dpexing alts or simply sat it out. Last time there were fights with Calmil til the end. This time there was only those Calmil wannabes, BL, to brush aside. I guess too bad Supers don't mean **** for FW Long live the Derptron CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, please give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order Repeat 0ffenders 1081	Posted - 2014.08.26 14:15:00 - [38] - Quote Shad owLord wrote: ^ This and add in that Large plex's now account for 25% of the sites, and Caldari cannot (due to not enough high sp players) field hacs to counter the Gallente hac fleets they deploy in the larges means calmil have to concede them. Im not saying its Gal's or Cal's fault, just maybe an unintentional side effect of Kronos - hence at present the pendulum is broken This is just not true. During the silly cynobitching for RZR, cal mil were often fielding 50-60 man cruiser fleets with logi and other support. Their fleet could have in nearly all cases taken us by themselves. Yet they still dropped another 20-30 dull bears on us lol.
BAJRAN BALI Rabid Ninja Space Monkey Inc. Monkeys with Guns. 54	Posted - 2014.08.26 14:22:00 - [39] - Quote If there are any large null sec entities that would like to come help Cal mil we welcome the challenge. We've taken the warzone again. Now it is time for a rather large group, looking to make some isk, to challenge Gal mil. I'm sure there is someone strapped for cash that will help out cal mil in their efforts. YouTube: kds119 Twitter: @realkds119 Blog: derptw.blogspot.com
Deen Wispa Justified Chaos 734	Posted - 2014.08.26 14:38:00 - [40] - Quote gratz! High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Charlie Firpol Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns. 248	Posted - 2014.08.26 14:54:00 - [41] - Quote Congrats everyone, well done! Now... TEST? Nulli? Some 0sec entity needs its ass handed to it so we get something to fight :)
Estella Osoka Deep Void Merc Syndicate 461	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:14:00 - [42] - Quote So why don't we just continue the ROFLSTOMP? I hear Amarr space is pretty this time of year. Hmmm.....maybe we should jump over to another militia, take warzone control, get medal, and so on, and so on; until we have medals for each faction?
Cearain Goose Swarm Coalition 1351	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:24:00 - [43] - Quote I hope you get another medal, and another high five from CCP Fozzie. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Thanatos Marathon Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 301	Posted - 2014.08.26 16:53:00 - [44] - Quote Cearain wrote: I hope you get another medal, and another high five from CCP Fozzie. Many of us haven't ever gotten either since we weren't around last time. BLFOX is currently recruiting
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 44	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:15:00 - [45] - Quote Thanatos Marathon wrote: Cearain wrote: I hope you get another medal, and another high five from CCP Fozzie. Many of us haven't ever gotten either since we weren't around last time. Even without the medal though I wouldn't take it back. After being in Gallente militia for almost 16 months, starting as a near total newb, and being constantly engaged in what was going on and trying to push the limits, last night felt absolutely amazing. I wouldn't trade this feeling for all the ISK in the universe. +1 Just Add Water
Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 327	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:17:00 - [46] - Quote Grats all around. I slept through the Ladister Bash, but at least I have my memories of last time. GalMil is still awesome!
Carlatto Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 20	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:26:00 - [47] - Quote Thanatos Marathon wrote: Cearain wrote: I hope you get another medal, and another high five from CCP Fozzie. Many of us haven't ever gotten either since we weren't around last time. Even without the medal though I wouldn't take it back. After being in Gallente militia for almost 16 months, starting as a near total newb, and being constantly engaged in what was going on and trying to push the limits, last night felt absolutely amazing. I wouldn't trade this feeling for all the ISK in the universe. I have the fall of Ladister and the celebration that followed recorded :)
Shad owLord The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted. 6	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:56:00 - [48] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: Shad owLord wrote: ^ This and add in that Large plex's now account for 25% of the sites, and Caldari cannot (due to not enough high sp players) field hacs to counter the Gallente hac fleets they deploy in the larges means calmil have to concede them. Im not saying its Gal's or Cal's fault, just maybe an unintentional side effect of Kronos - hence at present the pendulum is broken This is just not true. During the silly cynobitching for RZR, cal mil were often fielding 50-60 man cruiser fleets with logi and other support. Their fleet could have in nearly all cases taken us by themselves. Yet they still dropped another 20-30 dull bears on us lol. Rubbish, It was true then and even more so now, but I'm not going to argue. Enjoy your victory Crosi
Alli Ginthur The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 10	Posted - 2014.08.26 18:14:00 - [49] - Quote BAJRAN BALI wrote: If there are any large null sec entities that would like to come help Cal mil we welcome the challenge. We've taken the warzone again. Now it is time for a rather large group, looking to make some isk, to challenge Gal mil. I'm sure there is someone strapped for cash that will help out cal mil in their efforts. Having a large, bored null entity come into Calmil is the absolute last thing we need. If we're ever going to make a dent, we need to pick ourselves up off the mat and stop relying on some outside force to bolster a crippled militia. Sorry if this makes for a bored Galmil in the meantime
Neutral Haulermeister The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2	Posted - 2014.08.26 18:52:00 - [50] - Quote Wonderful work guys, it's been a while since I did Gal FW but this is great to see, time to start sending people down to help the min FW folks...

Veronica Isagar Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 7	Posted - 2014.08.26 19:01:00 - [51] - Quote Alli Ginthur wrote: BAJRAN BALI wrote: If there are any large null sec entities that would like to come help Cal mil we welcome the challenge. We've taken the warzone again. Now it is time for a rather large group, looking to make some isk, to challenge Gal mil. I'm sure there is someone strapped for cash that will help out cal mil in their efforts. Having a large, bored null entity come into Calmil is the absolute last thing we need. If we're ever going to make a dent, we need to pick ourselves up off the mat and stop relying on some outside force to bolster a crippled militia. Sorry if this makes for a bored Galmil in the meantime They won't come out, they are to busy spinning ships and doing strange things to defenseless rocks and red crosses.
Dread Operative Snuff Box 355	Posted - 2014.08.26 19:08:00 - [52] - Quote Let me sing you the song of my people. Pew pew pew pew.... -Dread
Lir oy Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns. 0	Posted - 2014.08.26 19:31:00 - [53] - Quote Congrats GalMil, the last few weeks has been the best experience a noob Gal FW player could have asked for. Thanks for all the great Fleets ,FC's and noob friendly help in chat. Safe flying and cheers!
Red Khalmer Tribal Opposition Ushra'Khan 19	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:22:00 - [54] - Quote Really great effort by the Galmil on taking the whole warzone! Congratulations on your victory against the squids :)
Nikki Nervosa Moira. Villore Accords 0	Posted - 2014.08.26 21:22:00 - [55] - Quote Historic campaign I was so proud to be a part of. Viva la Gallente Empire!!
CheesusCrust HildCo Interplanetar Villore Accords 9	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:33:00 - [56] - Quote Congrats to everyone! http://i.imgur.com/Ni9XAOC.png
Irya Boone Never Surrender. 377	Posted - 2014.08.27 01:42:00 - [57] - Quote Was very nice specially in Heyd and Hysera best moments for me in this campaign RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome. GalMIl>>ALL
DJ FunkyBacon Eve Radio Corporation 326	Posted - 2014.08.27 05:04:00 - [58] - Quote Congratulations are in order for the Gallente Militia. This is the second time I've seen the warzone get swept like this. Last time worked much the same, except without the Caldari throwing in the towel. As I recall, Gal Mil only held the whole zone for a day last time as Ev0ke landed up in the northwest and began their march to Eha where they were eventually stopped. That said, this is looking like the beginning of a long painful drought for the Caldari Militia. Some people have brought up to me, and I would agree, that the current system is a bit too punishing for the side getting the screws put to it. It's something I'll bring up with CCP, though I'm not 100% on a solution yet. What is clear is that there is no incentive to join a side losing as bad as the Caldari are right now. That is bad for player retention on their end, and also for bringing in fresh blood. Only a true Caldari loyalist (Read: RPer), gluttons for punishment, and those too stubborn to back down would see much value in joining or staying with Cal Mil at this point. That is unhealthy not only for the Caldari's ability to remain competitive, but also for the Gallente that rely on decent Caldari numbers for content. I don't think the pendulum should swing on the nuts of AFK plex farmers, but at the same time, there has to be some value to a player willing to fight for a side on a down swing. A good part of this Gallente Victory is the also Caldari's inability to work together between corps and alliances. I was there in the meeting when the plan was laid out on which system would get hit in what order, the Gallente FCs and CEOs having full knowledge that none of the groups would move in to help one another hold their space, and would patiently wait their turn for the whole of the Gallente militia to come to them. In a sense, I'm a bit sad at this victory. I saw flashes of brilliance from the Caldari side during the Okkamon campaign, with large Caldari fleets and several groups working together. There was one night in particular where you guys really brought it, and there were a lot of frustrated words on Gal Mil comms. Had you guys been able to keep it up, the Gallente might never have taken that system, but you didn't, and they did. I also think there's a marked difference of attitude between the two sides. I remember a few months ago spending 12 hours attacking Enaluri and finally getting it to 28% that first day after losing hundreds of ships. I wanted to put a fist through my monitor that night when the node crashed from something that was happening several systems away, and we logged back in to find the system back down to 0%. We petitioned it of course, but the response was that the tools didn't exist to fix the percentage bar back to where it had been. We had to start over from scratch, and what happened was that the following day, Gallente numbers swelled as people who had not participated in the offensive at that point, and hadn't really cared, rallied around the FCs and people who'd wasted their time and ISK the previous day, because "** that ". That's the real difference I see between the militias. When the Gallente get a bad turn, they seem to rally together tighter than before, and try harder. If someone's home system comes under attack it's basically a guarantee that almost every major corp and alliance will be there to help in the defense. Help is asked for, and it's given without a second thought because each of us knows that those guys will be there for us when it's our turn to get ** on. The Caldari could learn something from that, but it won't be easy. The Gallente core groups have the advantage that comes with flying together for years at this point, while the Caldari have gone through a lot of turnover in that time. If you were to look at the Gallente corps and alliances that bashed the final iHub in January of 2013, a lot of the same flags were flying in August of 2014. On the Caldari side, I don't think more than Templis and the Russians around OMS still remain from the 2013 Campaign. In closing, while I will happily look at ways to incentivise a losing side to keep fighting (and take suggestions) to bring these ideas to CCP's attention, I also think the Caldari have some work to do on their own house. Any changes that could be made that would affect all sides equally at this point still won't save you guys from yourselves, and your inability/unwillingness to work together CSM9 Factional Warfare/Lowsec Representative Radio Host, Blogger, Lowsec Resident, PvP Afficionado. http://funkybacon.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/FunkyBacon
Grimwood Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF 16	Posted - 2014.08.27 05:34:00 - [59] - Quote DJ FunkyBacon wrote: I like to type words out on my CSM account to look important. Anyways... Galmil totally wrecked Calmil. If Calmil doesn't take anything away from what happened, then there is no saving Calmil.
Phox Jorkarzul Deep Void Merc Syndicate 104	Posted - 2014.08.27 06:24:00 - [60] - Quote CheesusCrust wrote: Congrats to everyone! http://i.imgur.com/Ni9XAOC.png I just p***sed myself laughing. Blasters for life https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com



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