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Pattern Clarc
Dark Destiny Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:55:00 -
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What do ya think?
Your dream ship or pre dps nerfed with srunken drone bay??
Personnally though... lighter and faster than the mega means i'll finally have a reason to fly battleships!!!!
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Krulla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:56:00 -
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Personally I had a giant joygasm when I read the bonuses.
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:58:00 -
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It should get a big pg and cpu boost over the mega so maybe a full neutron setup would be viable to make up for the lack of drones?
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:59:00 -
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Well, it can be nice for some very specific PvP situations, but compared to the other tier3 BSes this one is a big disappointment.
Who will fly these in big fleet engagements? Who will fly them for PvE like level 4 missions?
This one will quickly be the cheapest tier3 BS, thats for sure.
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Well, it can be nice for some very specific PvP situations, but compared to the other tier3 BSes this one is a big disappointment.
Who will fly these in big fleet engagements? Who will fly them for PvE like level 4 missions?
This one will quickly be the cheapest tier3 BS, thats for sure.
Who cares, gallente finally have a viable battleship pvp blastership.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Well, it can be nice for some very specific PvP situations, but compared to the other tier3 BSes this one is a big disappointment.
Who will fly these in big fleet engagements? Who will fly them for PvE like level 4 missions?
This one will quickly be the cheapest tier3 BS, thats for sure.
I think this BS is going to be really, really good in the hands of great blasterthron pilots.
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Deadeye Dave
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Well, it can be nice for some very specific PvP situations, but compared to the other tier3 BSes this one is a big disappointment.
Who will fly these in big fleet engagements? Who will fly them for PvE like level 4 missions?
This one will quickly be the cheapest tier3 BS, thats for sure.
It'll be a nice small gang/solo Battelship which will be cool.
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OzaLoni
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:01:00 -
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Well I'm of mixed opinion...
The bonuses (boni) are nice but looking at the other ships it seems to get the raw end of the deal. I would like to see the base resists on the ship.
Is the thinking that having the extra cap will allow you to run 2 lar and neutrons ( I presume the expected blaster of choice ).. meh more details pls...
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DirtyHarry
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:02:00 -
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This makes me very happy, all my skills match this ship perfectly ^_^
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FawKa
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:03:00 -
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I wonder how good it will be without a tracking bonus and without a tanking bonus compared to the other new ships. It has to have a gigantic cap!
MWD is fine tho', but as the other ships tanks better now, the gall BS got some issues (yes, depends on the cap and armor - guess we ahve to wait).
I'm stil more for dmg and 10% reduction in capbooster cycle and a cargobay on 1500, WMD'ing wouldnt be a problem and we got 'sort of' a tanking bonus as you can run the dual repping quite long 
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:04:00 -
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Yea, as I said, for very specific PvP situations it will be nice. But most often, gank gangs is frigs and hacs only due to align/warp speed, and this ship wont change that.
The other races tier3 BS are either VERY nice for fleet engagements and/or VERY nice for PvE. Compared to that, the very limited number of PvP situations that the hyperion will be good in is nothing.
A very big disappointment.
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Pattern Clarc
Dark Destiny Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:05:00 -
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Deepending on it's tank, the lack of drone bay makes me a tiny bit worried, but if a gallente pilot needs a fleet rail boat, theres always the Rokh....
unless your into roleplay that is.
Hell, it's made my life a whole lot clearer.
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:05:00 -
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kinda worried about the tracking problem. But all in all this is what i was hoping for
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:07:00 -
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Oversized Thorax.
/me wonders Raven, siege, fury, painters. 
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:11:00 -
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I'll decide when I know how much grid and CPU it'll get. If it can fit 8 neutrons and a light tank, I'd be a happy bunny.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:17:00 -
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I liked everything said about this ship aside from the god awfull MWD bonus. If the ship has 4 midslots then the bonus is rather pointless as your cap will be limited more by the number of cap booster 800 charges you have rather than your max cap. If the ship does not have a 4th midslot then it is beyond useless. Then again the devs are not stupid so I'm very confident that the ship will infact be granted a 4th midslot.
I think it is time that Tux take a look at the bonus as a whole and change it to 7.5% or 10% per level across the board. This would include a change to both the Deimos and Thorax as well. Personally I think the bonus as a whole should be scrapped and replaced with something that decreases cap use or increase thrust amount per level.
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Pattern Clarc
Dark Destiny Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:19:00 -
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but what about the drones!! the drones people??
I'm pritty sure it'll get 5mid slots, and 7 lows, especially if the Abba gets 8 highs and 8 lows!!
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Who cares, gallente finally have a viable battleship pvp blastership.
What the heck are you talking about? The megathron has always been viable as a blastership.
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Ismern
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:21:00 -
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The only thing that is 'wrong' with the Blasterthron is its inability to field both T2 neutrons and a full tank. If the Hyperion can do that then I'd say it's better. If not then I'd say it's worse.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:26:00 -
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i can't wait for this BS, especialy as i'm very close to startng my large hybrid 5 training
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:27:00 -
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I think this beast looks scary tbh.
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Moornblade
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:31:00 -
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Sucks. Rokh is a better blaster boat (unless the Rokh is really, really slow).
25% bonus to resistances=much easier to tank it.
Shield tanking=much more efficent with implants/faction mods.
50% bonus to ranges=18-20km optimal range using Null.
Rokh; the blaster boat that tanks, and lets you reach out and crush someone. A Rokh with an officer webber will keep a Hyperion/other short range boat at 14km, while uber-tanking with ~70% average resistances.
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Azerrad
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:33:00 -
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It will most likely be cap injected anyways so the MWD cap bonus is pointless. Would rather have the same bonuses as the Mega tbh.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:33:00 -
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Glad to see I'm not the only one disapointed with thes proposed bonusses.
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Pattern Clarc
Dark Destiny Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Moornblade
Sucks. Rokh is a better blaster boat (unless the Rokh is really, really slow).
25% bonus to resistances=much easier to tank it.
Shield tanking=much more efficent with implants/faction mods.
50% bonus to ranges=18-20km optimal range using Null.
Rokh; the blaster boat that tanks, and lets you reach out and crush someone. A Rokh with an officer webber will keep a Hyperion/other short range boat at 14km, while uber-tanking with ~70% average resistances.
thats bull****,
especially if both pilots are using the same web...
tbh, i'll happily train for both a deadicated sniper and bs version of the thorax
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Nebuli
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:35:00 -
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Fits my skills perfectly as well, as does the Caldari tier 3.
I'm still fairly dissapointed though, not for obvious reasons though.
As most gal pilots have good hybrid skills the Caldari tier 3 is going to be the obvious choice for sniping, ok need to train caldari BS if you dont have it already, but no real biggy, this leaves domi and the new tier 3 for close range.
Whats gonna happen to the sexeh Mega, best looking ship in the games not gonna be used at all the way I see it, its lost its place.
What would be better imo would be to make mega a proper blaster platfrom, on par with this new one, then make the tier 3 a sniper/damping ship, at least then all the ships will have a purpose.
I'm not opposed with the ship in itself, just the knock on effect its going to have 
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Azerrad
It will most likely be cap injected anyways so the MWD cap bonus is pointless. Would rather have the same bonuses as the Mega tbh.
The higher your capacitor capacity, the longer it takes for you to be nossed into oblivion, and the longer into the battle you have to start using your cap boosters. This is good.
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Pattern Clarc
Dark Destiny Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
It should get a big pg and cpu boost over the mega so maybe a full neutron setup would be viable to make up for the lack of drones?
do nuetrons really do that much more damage?
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Moornblade
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:39:00 -
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No, there's a better way to fix the Megathron, now that the Gallente Tier 3 is going to be a blasterboat (not that I'm happy about it).
Remove 2 Megathron Turrents. Add 2 launcher bays.
Voila. Megathron is now a hybrid missile/rail/drone boat. Hyperion is a blasterboat. Dominix is a drone boat.
Either that, or give the Mega a range bonus :/
Originally by: Nebuli
Fits my skills perfectly as well, as does the Caldari tier 3.
I'm still fairly dissapointed though, not for obvious reasons though.
As most gal pilots have good hybrid skills the Caldari tier 3 is going to be the obvious choice for sniping, ok need to train caldari BS if you dont have it already, but no real biggy, this leaves domi and the new tier 3 for close range.
Whats gonna happen to the sexeh Mega, best looking ship in the games not gonna be used at all the way I see it, its lost its place.
What would be better imo would be to make mega a proper blaster platfrom, on par with this new one, then make the tier 3 a sniper/damping ship, at least then all the ships will have a purpose.
I'm not opposed with the ship in itself, just the knock on effect its going to have
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Azerrad
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Azerrad on 25/07/2006 19:41:04
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Azerrad
It will most likely be cap injected anyways so the MWD cap bonus is pointless. Would rather have the same bonuses as the Mega tbh.
The higher your capacitor capacity, the longer it takes for you to be nossed into oblivion, and the longer into the battle you have to start using your cap boosters. This is good.
Unless the cap is big enough to remove the need for an injector (i.e. sustain MWD long enough to get into range and guns thereafter with a few rep cycles, hardners, web, scram thrown in), it really doesn't help much in the long run. I would rather hit my target more often than start cap injecting a few seconds later into a fight.
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