Hi everyone,

How are the Crius industry changes working out for you?

* Something mentioned to me was flexibility by CCP (I think you) earlier was a "preview" mode to set me/te on blueprints to tinker. Is that still something you want to do?

This thread is for general feedback on the state of play, how the balance is settling down, and specific issues people still have.

I'm sure this has already been forwarded to you, but please check out this thread on revisiting ore distribution in nullsec.

The changes to compression and refining bonuses in null are causing a huge surplus of high end minerals and leaving nullsec with some serious issues sourcing low end minerals.

Querns also made a thread regarding compression, although I personally believe the issue can be resolved on the mineral supply end.

(note to randoms: please save discussion for these items in their respective threads)

Very well thank you. I like it so far. I have two things i wonder about.

1. When you get the cost of a tech 2 bpc, id like to see what the total cost would be, if i produced all the materials myself. right now it only shows the total cost, if you buy all the components.

2.a. Why not make me able to artificially set the reasearched lvl? - Example, if i know that i'll have a perfect blueprint by the end of the weekend, id like to see what that generates.

I would love it if the industry window would remember my hangar selections between jobs, instead of constantly having to reselect corp hangars.

The release has put me off playing and I no longer play or even log in daily like I used to. The bad things outweigh the good and make it hard to be enthusiastic about doing what I loved, building stuff.

Good patch, my only complaint is that it failed to add in a race of Cat-People with customizeable ears/tails/fur patterns/etc.

The release has put me off playing and I no longer play or even log in daily like I used to. The bad things outweigh the good and make it hard to be enthusiastic about doing what I loved, building stuff.

Let me start with what I like about the release:
- No build slot limit.
- The new UI for industry

Now for all the stuff I hate dealing with:
- The new UI (it is too big, there's no way to close it, takes a long time to load up all the BPs)
- Build cost ( any system with more then one station has the build index so high it's not cost effective to build large ships there )
- Years of grinding standings now doesn't have any benefits.
- Useless skill that was completely changed. ( this one is minor for me )
- Heavily researched BPOs became the same as lightly researched ones

So no I don't log in to build, I took down my POS, and I don't log in.

If you can fix the UI so I can actually see more blueprints, make my standings worth something, and resolve the build cost issues then it might be worth playing again.

In one of the patches you "fixed" Industry jobs that way they don't accept assembeld ships. When building on a pos that can get quite anoying as you can't repack the ships there. Especialy if you try building big thigns like a jumpfreighter as you can't move a packed Freighter hull around in any ship. So allowing us to repackage ships at a POS or shrinking packed freighter hulls to like 1.000.000m-¦ of volume would be nice :)

Attached is a screenshot showing YA0 not getting the ME bonus. It should be getting 1% off (our stations with 2% off are also not working): http://i.imgur.com/ccRRuiQ.jpg

Also, without the team just for good measure: http://i.imgur.com/w8rETlK.jpg

the uniformity of the t2 ship material requirements is betrayed by the gallente command ships.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=365451

First one, it is weird, I can prolly prove it, but can't put a finger on it

Second point - See alternate thread i made, complete with screenshots - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4978539#post4978539

Third - Uggh, maybe instead of fixing text there should be something added like an attributes tab or something to explain what these things do, right now it is a black science with typo's

Kenneth

* Not all of the 0/0 bpcs from before Crius got converted. Do another DB pass?

Obligatory joke with words like "your stuff" and "can i have" goes in here

Yup, this is an intentional anomaly due to wanting to give the Eos the Myrm hull because it's the drone boat even though it was the field command not the fleet command (and therefore should by default use the Brutix hull). It's not obvious to us that the disruption of messing with the build costs of existing ships is worth making the mapping between ship model and build cost fully consistent.

I don't totally follow your screenshots, you say one is 37m and one is 39m but the costs look the same to me?

OK, thanks, I'll look into this!

Short version

- Shut down 4 high sec Large Industy POS for costs outweighing profit
- Stopped all T2 production, BPO and invention for declined margins and numbers
- Fall back to T1 production until we figure out what to do
- Moving production to Jita for obvius reasons

So... Hoping to see the market level out, cant make enough to fund all needed plex atm.
Stetching till the end of the year.. Maybe quit for the time being

You complain of declined margins... and then move all your production to Jita, the system with the highest job costs?

[quote=Querns][quote=Quentin Rush]
... and the least shipping costs.

B. I seriously dislike how the reprocessing array lacks any kind of UI like reprocessing in a station has. I know, the POS code is broken so it's hard to do. Fix it already. This excuse is getting old.