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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:02:00 -
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This thread is about minmatar. You can say anything you want in it as long as it is related to minmatar. Later on, when this page becomes as long as the Amarr one, we will just point at this thread and whine about Tuxford not replying to get what we want.
Ok, im going to start off by saying that the new minnie bc looks like its going to rock. Armor tanking ftw!
Oh, and boost minmatar.
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Severa Crest
Railgun Voodoo II
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:06:00 -
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When the stats for the Maelstrom were announced, I thought "OMG what a pile of crap". After some thought I've realised that Minmatar is indeed hard mode - a fact that Hammer admitted himself. So if you pick hard mode, expect it to be erm.... hard.
Matari 4TW.
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:07:00 -
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Armor tanking 4tw Shield tanking 4tl Unnerf hail please Speed is cool, slow ships (*cough* maelstrom *cough*) smell. Seed t2 duct tape, please.
49 pages, here we come!
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/07/2006 14:09:22
By the way...
I would LOVE if Tuxford replied to this thread at page 1. That would be so insanely funny. 
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Quarantine
Federation of Synthetic Persons YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:11:00 -
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I've always been curious if and how the Titan's gang bonus stacks with several Ragnaroks in your gang. Would be fairly interesting to see how small you can get the signature of a ceptor with max skills, pirate imps, a gangassist bc and (several?) Ragnaroks.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Quarantine I've always been curious if and how the Titan's gang bonus stacks with several Ragnaroks in your gang. Would be fairly interesting to see how small you can get the signature of a ceptor with max skills, pirate imps, a gangassist bc and (several?) Ragnaroks.
Dont bother discussing anything serious here... i expect this thread to get locked soon. :) And i dont blame the mods. Actually they should lock the amarr one too.......
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:43:00 -
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- Switch emp and fusion around, make fusion our biggest damage dealer, give it 12 damage like all the rest of the small lowest range highest damage T1 ammo. Minmatar primary damage types are explosive and kinetic yet the highest damage T1 ammo is mostly em and explosive - Give all projectile ammo more explosive damage, p...p... please . Allways bugged me that minmatar doesn't have heavy focus on explosive(our primary damage type). - Change EMP so it only has 2 damage types(3 damage types makes me cry), explosive and em. - Nerf autocannons by changing falloff so it ramps up to highest tier(falloff of 800mm > falloff of dual650 > falloff of dual 425mm) as well as changing grid(particularly for frig ac's) in preparation of a boost to autocannons. I think they need to do this before they can be really compared and subsequently balanced with the other gun types.
Before you start flaming, I'm a minnie specialized pilot (minmatar bs 5, T2 projectiles, the works). Ok now you're fully informed, you can flame . - "I wish CONCORD would scream "No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition" when they turn up to blob you. " -_ Twilight Moon |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 14:49:00 -
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Hail is actually VERY explosive damage oriented. However, the speed nerf makes it unusable in most situations.
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Martyr 01
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:10:00 -
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Take the speed penalty off hail.
Boost 800mm Auto II DPS so that they do more dmg than a wet sock.
Lower the pg fitting reqs of 720mm II's a tiny bit.
Basically boost minmatar!

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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:15:00 -
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Minmatar whiners >>>>>> Caldari whiners.  ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Dixon
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:15:00 -
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make minmatar ships slower and make Projectiles do more DPS and use the same amount of cap as hybrids. Let's just make all races exactly the same... balance at last.
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Vathar
Elegance
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:17:00 -
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Remove "rocking effect" on minnie ships and I'll be happy  _
Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
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schurem
Anarchy Inc. Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vathar Remove "rocking effect" on minnie ships and I'll be happy 
naw man, F' that! minmatar ships rock!
<<<< No Boundaries, No Fences, Fly Free Or Die Trying >>>>
Typhoon for the win. Nastier than whats faster, faster than whats nastier! |

Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Minmatar whiners >>>>>> Caldari whiners. 
QTF, we rule.
Random things about Minmatar:
o Having a fast cap recharge rate doesn't really mean much outside of PVE o Our interceptors are actually quite sluggish compared to some others o Just because we go fast doesn't mean we can actually hit anything at those speeds o If you give us a ROF bonus instead of a damage bonus, don't expect us to be fitting artillery o Amarr have a higher alpha strike with artillery than some minmatar ships in the same class o There are loads of ships that are overpowered with faction gear, so stop *****ing about the Domination/Snake Vagabond o Quite a few of us would actually like some dedicated missile platforms (not split weapon ships), seeing as they are supposed to be our secondary weapon system o If/when NOS and ECM gets nerfed, expect to see gazillions of boost the Tempest threads o Artillery still take up too much powergrid o We wouldn't mind some T2 em/thermal ammo if possible o If Amarr get explosive crystals, we get to bypass shield and armour and damage the hull directly o <3 Rupture o None of us are quite sure where the extra 5m3 drone bay on the Rupture vanished to when CCP made the Muninn. o We're not quite sure why CCP only added the speed penalty to hail instead of all high-damage close-range ammos, but we wouldn't mind it being removed o Tremor is hax, but we love it.
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Vathar
Elegance
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:33:00 -
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Sarmaul for president! _
Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vathar Sarmaul for president!
nah, Sarmaul for Amarr emperor 
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Mila Prestoc
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/07/2006 15:48:07 Boost the Breacher. Fix the Belly by making it a missile ship. Remove speed penalty from hail or at least the stacking of the penalty.
Originally by: Sarmaul
o If/when NOS and ECM gets nerfed, expect to see gazillions of boost the Tempest threads
So true, especially with the tier 3 uber mega... after ecm/nos nerf a mega vs pest would be really one sided nevermind the new ship. -------------------------
Originally by: "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 15:54:00 -
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And oh, let the boring caldari be the midslot specialists if they want. Make us armor tanking hardcore raiders with blazing guns and battle scars in our hulls. Yarr! 
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:04:00 -
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Please get the Minmatar, Thukker and Ammatar storylines, agents, stations, missions and mission rewards sorted.
Wanna know why many Minmatar, Thukker and Ammatar (RP) pilots left EVE in disgust? --*=*=*--
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy Please get the Minmatar, Thukker and Ammatar storylines, agents, stations, missions and mission rewards sorted.
Wanna know why many Minmatar, Thukker and Ammatar (RP) pilots left EVE in disgust?
Yes.
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Tachy Please get the Minmatar, Thukker and Ammatar storylines, agents, stations, missions and mission rewards sorted.
Wanna know why many Minmatar, Thukker and Ammatar (RP) pilots left EVE in disgust?
Yes.
One of the reasons was that Thukker set the Republic to - standings without even a single news article or storyline event. IIRC, this meant Thukker missions would involve killing Republic ships, something most people didn't want to do as Thukker aren't the Minmatar pirate faction (Angels get that role).
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
One of the reasons was that Thukker set the Republic to - standings without even a single news article or storyline event. IIRC, this meant Thukker missions would involve killing Republic ships, something most people didn't want to do as Thukker aren't the Minmatar pirate faction (Angels get that role).
Ah, so ccp messed it up for the roleplayers then. Didnt know that. Sounds a bit clumsy of them. Maybe thats why they hate minmatar btw... 
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Hail is actually VERY explosive damage oriented. However, the speed nerf makes it unusable in most situations.
Well yes, hail is indeed much explosive, but it's T2 ammo. I think T1 ammo should have explosive damage more often as well.
Remove speed penalty on hail, add falloff penalty? say... -30% falloff? That would match the extra loss of optimal the blaster T2 has 0.5 * 0.7 = 0.35 (or -65%) - "I wish CONCORD would scream "No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition" when they turn up to blob you. " -_ Twilight Moon |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Reatu Krentor
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Hail is actually VERY explosive damage oriented. However, the speed nerf makes it unusable in most situations.
Well yes, hail is indeed much explosive, but it's T2 ammo. I think T1 ammo should have explosive damage more often as well.
Remove speed penalty on hail, add falloff penalty? say... -30% falloff? That would match the extra loss of optimal the blaster T2 has 0.5 * 0.7 = 0.35 (or -65%)
Im basicly saying yes by default to any penalty except speed. Your suggestion sounds like a good one too.
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Blind Man
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Blind Man on 30/07/2006 16:20:21 the sleipnir is not overpowered.
(whine about it and link goes bye bye )
MY CORP USES *** TEXT LIKE THIS UNDER SIGS SO I DO IT TOO.
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Foulis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:20:00 -
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Reduce the mass on the stiletto and the claw, min deserves the fastest interceptors. ----
Cake > Pie - Imaran
Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Sarmaul
One of the reasons was that Thukker set the Republic to - standings without even a single news article or storyline event. IIRC, this meant Thukker missions would involve killing Republic ships, something most people didn't want to do as Thukker aren't the Minmatar pirate faction (Angels get that role).
Ah, so ccp messed it up for the roleplayers then. Didnt know that. Sounds a bit clumsy of them. Maybe thats why they hate minmatar btw... 
That's not the only thing though, amarr had their championship, caldari their race thing, gallente well their elections (work in progress ). Minmatar nothing that could be compared to these yet. Oh and I almost forget the 2 alliance championships (2 )... So even though gallente got the brown end of the stick, we minnies didn't even get a stick we can complain about . - "I wish CONCORD would scream "No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition" when they turn up to blob you. " -_ Twilight Moon |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man Edited by: Blind Man on 30/07/2006 16:20:21 the sleipnir is not overpowered.
(whine about it and link goes bye bye )
Pretty nice, but its actually not overpowered compared to the Vulture or Nighthawk. 
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Blind Man
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:28:00 -
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im buying more for it today, ill repost the screenshot later
(domi gyro was just for cpu problems)
MY CORP USES *** TEXT LIKE THIS UNDER SIGS SO I DO IT TOO.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
The sleipnir actually does damage though.
Yeah, caldari ships are mostly tankers. Until the Rohk will show up and pwn us all... stupid game. 
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