Circle-Of-Two Declares War Against Mordus Angels
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2014.09.14 05:12

Circle-Of-Two has declared war on Mordus Angels.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. If war is due to a corporation at war joining an alliance, then the war starts immediately instead.

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my friend you appear to be under the misapprehension we are equals here

i answer your questions or not as it amuses me, if we were concerned about what random powerless idiots on eveo thought we'd all have been diagnosed with a variety of mental illnesses years ago and if anyone was ever concerned with attempts at pubbies to create logical traps based on third-hand information they misheard, misunderstood, and then misapplied they'd have gone cross-eyed long ago

That is to say if he spends 1 bil to cause 3 bil losses, in an absolute value aspect, he's being successful. Or if he writes up 1 paragraph and that motivates 20 CFC members to each write multiple paragraphs, he's exerting an amount of effort that's motivating a reaction several times the cost of his own.

at the end of the day the ideology that matters is power. gevlon has, in a rare moment of honesty and self-reflection, admitted that what he hates is not our ideology, it's that we won't let him in. as we are the kings of the hill and spit on him, this causes him to need to either destroy us or become part of us to satisfy his desperate need to be number one. unfortunately for him he is an object of ridicule and he will never succeed. someday, naturally, goonswarm will fall - but it won't be from gevlon (though I have no doubt that even if he quit five years before he will be back to take credit) and nobody will ever think of gevlon as some success instead of a hilarious failure

we, on the other hand: you may hate us, you may desperately try to convince yourself you don't want to be us, you can do whatever you want...but you can't pretend to ignore us

1. Not everyone in the CFC is a multi billionaire Let's just stop pretending right there.

2. Sure but that "dumb player" would have brought X resources to your coalition. Not over all it may not be a large amount but it's still an amount.

3. Haha nice try with the moral finger wagging. Please don't insult everyone's intelligence.

4. I know a bit more about those rifter fliers than you could imagine.

5. *Epic tale of boredom*

I'm not asking you to care. It's a simple question. Mittens stated that NCdot is all ex-BoB on TMC. You claim BoB was actually destroyed and annihilated. How do you reconcile these differences?

Except it's not about ratio. It's about relevant magnitude.

The total isk value of all the isk, ships, materials and equipment in the entire CFC versus the damage he supposedly does.


Gevlon spending 10 billion to do 30 billion worth of damage to the CFC is about as effective at hurting the CFC as me spending 10 million isk to do 30 million worth of damage to Gevlon.

And the bragging rights are about the same too.



On a nullsec block level. The entire worth of Gevlon is chump change. We spend more isk on fuel just to stare down enemy fleets over tower timers than he has ever owned in his entire Eve career.


If Nullsec is the Iraq war then Gevlon is standing on the sidelines, putting a hundred dollars into the "Iraqi Surface-to-air missile fund" while believing his contribution is relevant.

-buttmad intensifies-

the legacy of bob: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcM7iCBN6T4

1. From the sounds of it it seems like you personify the CFC version of Goblin.

2. An interesting assumption I suppose.

3. I was pointing out, to those not so dense, the relevancy from an organization point of view vs the individual. Nice try.

4. That's fine.

5. I knew you'd be interested.

Clearly I think that when you win against someone in Eve, you get to go to their house and murder them. You've delved in into the seventh circle of idiot and I see no stopping in the future.

"A broken shard laughs at a cracked pot" pretty much sums up this thread. You decide which incompetent entity you are amongst yourselves.

I'm not asking you to care. It's a simple question. Mittens stated that NCdot is all ex-BoB on TMC. You claim BoB was actually destroyed and annihilated. How do you reconcile these differences?

Retar, do you have a high rank within the Goons that merits you to speak on their behalf or are you merely one of their insignificant drones that feels mighty because he is a speck amongst a blob of 30k pilots?

You certainly use "we" a lot...not a good way to define an individual.

Retar, do you have a high rank within the Goons that merits you to speak on their behalf or are you merely one of their insignificant drones that feels mighty because he is a speck amongst a blob of 30k pilots?

You certainly use "we" a lot...not a good way to define an individual.

Lol. I get it. Internet spaceships is super serious for you. It's not for us, it's just a game we play for entertainment, and nothing more. So an autistic player devoting their life to our destruction is irrelevant. It will not change the fact that we have fun playing EVE, no matter how many trillions he racks up, and no matter how much you try to compare it to people being killed at war. By the way I get the point you were trying to make (and disagree entirely), but your comparison was highly flawed. You knew this as well, you were simply trying to pick a subject shocking enough for people not to argue against it.

I get it though, you want to attack me, call me buttmad and all that. Proceed if you wish. Get it out of your system. Understand that it's entertainment, and you'll never succeed in upsetting me even remotely. If that's what you need to do though to feel good about yourself, go right ahead.

Not everyone in the CFC is a multibillionaire.

Truer words were never spoken.
I am one of those poor, sad non mulitbillionair CFC players.

So lets see how this campaign would affect me (though I live in Delve, we just had a similar situation before all our non-cfc friends left)
My current total liquid ISK is about 7 B
In assets I have about 5B worth of ships, most of which are doctrine vessels scattered about CFC space gathering dust.
Due to a the horrible affliction of RL and a steady job I do not need to PLEX, but also do not have all that much time.

I spend my mornings during breakfast running my (bad) PI setup earning about 25-30M a day.
When I log in I check if there is anything fun going on, and if not I tend to rat a single anom before just going off to do something else.

Now lets say GG's campaign takes off and a cloacky camper appears in EACH CFC system AND they have a permanent fleet ready to be bridged in bridge range of every CFC system, with the cloacky campers being active 23/7 so any ratting vessel gets dropped on.
This will prevent me from gettting ISK trough ratting, though it does nothing to my PI income, as I've never seen a cloacky camper attack an unfitted 1M worth transport without any real loot.

That would mean that the roaming gangs (active at the same time as the standby hotdrop fleets) sponsored by GG would have to cost me about 30M losses daily on average to start hitting my wallet. Since I do small gang PVP in cheap ships and generally in groups I doubt that will happen.
But suppose they are horribly effective and I play in expensive ships and I lose 100M monthly. That means that with my current truly sad wallet, I'd be able to take that loss for just under six years before I cannot afford more ships. This of course assumes no SRP at all.
And in those six years I'd have a guarantueed PvP experience every single time I logged on.

I don't really see a downside here. When will the Delve version begin?

i am bored today so it will amuse me to answer this question, once you actually do the work as i don't feel like bothering to find the articles that don't actually say what you think they say

link whatever you think has created this astounding logical trap that impacts our hilariously complete destruction of BoB and carefully make your argument and i will tear it to shreads on a coffee break

Well the context of the argument is that you get to tell others what to do. (Please tell me what to do. I live in Lowsec Genesis. Bring caps...oh wait.) And that you destroyed BoB and you're "winning." Yet Mittens often refers to NCdot and other N3 elements "as the same as BoB" paraphrasing here. Well they currently hold more space and make much more isk from their renting empires as your leader lamented.

I honestly would find the article of the ****** TMC search engine would actually work. But seriously Mittens equating whatever enemy the CFC is fighting with BoB is well known.

Lucas I've seen you post titanic length threadnaught posts everywhere you go. Mad about marmite, mad about Goblin, and when someone disagrees with you you just go to personal attacks. And then you fall back to "lol you take the game more seriously than I win. Ahaha-ahaha-ahaha I win!"

I can't help but imagine this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1hmDYnbasI

I honestly would find the article of the ****** TMC search engine would actually work. But seriously Mittens equating whatever enemy the CFC is fighting with BoB is well known.

it does not amuse me to argue against the figments of your en24-addled imagination, it will only amuse me to argue actual facts rather than shadowbox what the voices in your head believe to be true

Perhaps you need to revisit your definition of personal attacks. Maybe it's just British humour not coming across right, but I rarely attack anyone. Calling someone out for being a dumbass not being a personal attack.

Just to be clear, you deny Mittens referring to various enemies past and present as some sort of incarnation to BoB?

Rank? There are no ranks in the Goons. There's just citizens and the people tending to them.

i will promise to do that only and only when you show that you can learn how to use puncutation and know the difference between a run on sentence and a coherent thought so that we may exchange our debates and arguments over the internets in an intellectual manner somewhere in the stratosphere visavi your current intellectual position

That is right comrade! It seems you have a counter revolutionary among your ranks. Perhaps he needs better re-education of glorious revolution in your camps in Pure Blind.

Good lord, I'd hoped it was locked for good, since it's just a duplicate of his other one. "I r gief money for to shoot goons"

You know, if you and your buddies had just stopped posting in these threads, they would have gone away a long time ago.

Doubt it.