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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:46:00 -
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Some of you probably know that I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members). I've spent more than 300B in 2014 on this noble quest. For example I've been paying for the wardecs of The Marmite Collective in highsec against all CFC members (that's about 30B/month wardec fees). I'm also financially supporting Mordus Angels who live in an NPC station deep in CFC space and kill lot of minions of Evil. I used to pay the wardecs of Darwins Lemmings, this project was closed due to not be able to outperform Marmite, but they still cost me about 50B and killed 300B+ CFC while they lasted. I'm having a 20B titan bounty in progress. I'm writing these so you won't doubt that this offer is real and not some weird scam attempt.
So, I've been collecting data about CFC activities and after looking at the August ratting data and the August CFC losses data, I've found that there is insane amount of ratting in Branch but relatively low PvP activity. Branch is the home of PBLRD (CFC renter) and FCON (CFC PvE alliance), both have 30-35% ISK ratio against Battlement Coalition (of Mordus Angels and fellow NPC dwellers). So Branch is a perfect place for a coordinated strike against the CFC: there are lot of ratters there with practically no PvP-ers to defend them.
To facilitate the hunt in Branch, I hereby offer 20B every month, starting from September (including the kills already happened this month). The rules:
- The bounty is paid to corps, to the corp wallet.
- The bounty is automatic, you don't have to sign up or do anything but killing CFC in Branch. Many corps will be pretty surprised when they get ISK out of the blue.
- CFC members are obviously not eligible. Nor NPC corps.
- The kill must be on Zkillboard with API verification. (Hint: submit your corp API to Zkillboard.)
- Only loss reports over 150M count, as I need to be able to manually check them for T1 haulers full of goods with manipulated prices and other scam attempts. Such kills are obviously disqualified and listed for everyone to see.
- Only player ships matter, I won't motivate anyone to grind structures in bombless bombers.
- The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B.
- Only bounties over 500M are paid, the long tail is cut off and their share is redistributed among the top killers.
At the beginning of each month, I process the killboard data and create a report and distribute the bounty of the previous month. As an example, here is the imaginary August report (there was no project in August, so don't expect money for your August kills). On the example report you can see that 500M bounty could be earned by killing mere 1.7B CFC. If you think your corp is capable of killing more, it's time to deploy to Branch and participate in the noble contest. Are you a multiboxer? Create a corp, place a bunch of AFK-cloakers with covert cynos and catch ratters! By bringing death and destruction to the minions of Goons, you also contribute to a better nullsec, one without The Evil ruling it. By encouraging PBLRD ratters to change to NA/B0T and by driving FCON out of nullsec, a huge step will be made towards this Goon-free vision. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Paranoid Loyd
1759
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:47:00 -
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"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6925
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:48:00 -
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Reported "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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William Ruben
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
39
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:51:00 -
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In on the ground floor of an epic thread |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4329
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:52:00 -
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This will end well... Sugar Von MurdererTits-á: Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
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Big Lynx
Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent
630
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:53:00 -
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We need sh*tloads of popcorn. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2079
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:53:00 -
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While we're at it: give till it hurts.
Alternatively, If you don't want your name showing up on that list, feel free to send isk to my character. I'll use it to buy a super alt and drop on ratting carriers and die in a glorious ball of fire. |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3586
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:57:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members)
What gives you the impression they are evil? You obviously dislike them but it is unclear exactly WHY.
Hopefully you can clarify your point of view. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6350
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:59:00 -
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In before the inevitable propaganda from affected parties.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
highonpop
Sucker Punch Reloaded
518
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:01:00 -
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popping my popcorn as we speak. I don't get why you have to pay to subscribe to CCP's twitch channel to watch the keynotes this year (2014).-á I guess that's what happens when you sink $20 million into a project that is 8 years old and not even usable. You have to start charging for stuff you shouldn't. We already pay a subscription every month. |
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AnnaChapman
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:03:00 -
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More free content delivered right to out doorstep how nice :) Clearly you do not know Branch well. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4631
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:04:00 -
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Confirming fleet doctrine for the operation:
[Rokh, Podhammer] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II EM Ward Amplifier II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Large EMP Smartbomb II Large EMP Smartbomb II Large Plasma Smartbomb II Large Plasma Smartbomb II Large Graviton Smartbomb II Large Graviton Smartbomb II Large Proton Smartbomb II Large Proton Smartbomb II
Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Warrior SW-300 x5 Warrior SW-300 x5 Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4732
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:17:00 -
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This isn't how you heard cats. =][= |
Bisness Pirates
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
2
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:17:00 -
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May I ask how you have the ISK to finance these campaigns against the CFC? Have been wondering for a while how you managed to fund this campaign against evil. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8082
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:20:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Reported Reported your reporting!
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
670
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:20:00 -
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If its an NPC station how can it be deep in CFC space. NPC stations in player controlled SOV space. I'm so confused. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2116
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:21:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Big Lynx
Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent
630
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:21:00 -
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Bisness Pirates wrote:May I ask how you have the ISK to finance these campaigns against the CFC? Have been wondering for a while how you managed to fund this campaign against evil.
Don't you know gevllon. He is the trader god of eve. Kneeeeeeeeeeeellllll!!! |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
670
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:22:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:We need sh*tloads of popcorn.
Scheduling a freighter full of pop corn to fly in the sun, check. |
Cherry Yeyo
76
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:25:00 -
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EvE Online End User License Agreement
A. 5 "You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights."
harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory
At what point does this constant use of the term "Evil" become harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory? CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4732
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:26:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Reported Reported your reporting! Reported your reporting of her reporting!
=][= |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
111
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:30:00 -
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You do realize the last super to go fishing trip to branch ended so well right?
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Lugia3
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
1260
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:37:00 -
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I don't know why you all are crying about someone generating content. Grr goons? "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik
Remove Sov! |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1276
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:38:00 -
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Titan Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1276
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:38:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I think i'll toss this to the wolves....
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Solecist Project
9827
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:00:00 -
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What if this guy is in fact just a goon alt and part of some weird propaganda meta? ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Solecist Project
9827
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:01:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Reported Reported your reporting! Reported your reporting of her reporting! PETITIONED! ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:04:00 -
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I'm kind of surprised how many wormholers are on that example list, compared to bluesec people.
OK, not really. |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
275
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:13:00 -
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Yet another example how crowd-sourcing only works if the end product is viable. Have you checked how many trillions it would cost for you to hire mercs and uninstall any of the CFC alliances? |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1315
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:16:00 -
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FCON Line member reporting in.
Preferably come during late US/early AU TZ (0400-0900) if possible otherwise I'll miss all the fun. |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
400
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:17:00 -
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Cherry Yeyo wrote:EvE Online End User License Agreement
A. 5 "You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights."
harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory
At what point does this constant use of the term "Evil" become harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory?
Oh shush this is content. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
1633
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:19:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:Yet another example how crowd-sourcing only works if the end product is viable. Have you checked how many trillions it would cost for you to hire mercs and uninstall any of the CFC alliances? So, funny story... "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart." -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
400
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:20:00 -
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Funny indeed! Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Trixie Lawless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
18
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:27:00 -
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Cherry Yeyo wrote:EvE Online End User License Agreement
A. 5 "You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights."
harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory
At what point does this constant use of the term "Evil" become harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory?
It's his opinion. You aren't free from others opinions. Him stating it...even repeatedly...is not harassment.
HTFU maybe? |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
275
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:36:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:Yet another example how crowd-sourcing only works if the end product is viable. Have you checked how many trillions it would cost for you to hire mercs and uninstall any of the CFC alliances? So, funny story...
I know the irony behind this, but the space is still held by CFC. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
55
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Posted - 2014.09.08 21:06:00 -
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Looks like we're losing the Good Fight against the Honorable Gevlon Goblin
The Mittani wrote: General Order No 69
After four years of arduous service, marked by unsurpassed courage and fortitude, the Cluster F*ck Coalition has been compelled to yield to overwhelming blogs and resources of Gevlon Goblin.
I need not tell the brave survivors of so many hard fought battles who have remained steadfast to the last, that I have consented to this result from no distrust of them, But feeling that valor and devotion could accomplish nothing that could compensate for the loss that would have attended the continuance of the contest, I determined to avoid the useless sacrifice of those whose past services have endeared them to their corpmates.
By the terms of the agreement, FCs and men can return to their home systems and remain until exchanged. You will take with you the satisfaction that proceeds from the consciousness of duty faithfully performed and I earnestly pray that a merciful Gevlon will extend to you His blessing and protection.
With an unceasing admiration of your constancy and devotion to your coalition, and a grateful remembrance of your kind and generous consideration of myself, I bid you all an affectionate farewell.
The Mittani Genl
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xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
112
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Posted - 2014.09.08 21:18:00 -
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I guess if he is sending people to camp branch I will just have to deploy everyone to 5ZXX and farm mordus missions to make their isk. |
Wizbiz Protagonist Eternal
Norse'Storm Battle Group Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.09.08 21:21:00 -
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I welcome you with open arms in the us time zone as my content of hunting people has been pretty boring, Enjoy your hunting for i will be hunting you :P |
How Very Embarrassing
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.09.08 22:16:00 -
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Cherry Yeyo wrote:EvE Online End User License Agreement
A. 5 "You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights."
harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory
At what point does this constant use of the term "Evil" become harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory?
Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members) What gives you the impression they are evil? You obviously dislike them but it is unclear exactly WHY. Hopefully you can clarify your point of view.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=359021
Keep defending terrible people. If you have self-respect or dignity, you support any action that hurts Goonswarm. The game would be better without them. |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
275
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Posted - 2014.09.08 22:17:00 -
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How Very Embarrassing wrote:Cherry Yeyo wrote:EvE Online End User License Agreement
A. 5 "You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights."
harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory
At what point does this constant use of the term "Evil" become harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory? Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members) What gives you the impression they are evil? You obviously dislike them but it is unclear exactly WHY. Hopefully you can clarify your point of view. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=359021Keep defending terrible people. If you have self-respect or dignity, you support any action that hurts Goonswarm. The game would be better without them.
Yet you cannot explain how and are just sperging the same thing as gevlon. |
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4201
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Posted - 2014.09.08 22:44:00 -
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Trixie Lawless wrote:Cherry Yeyo wrote:EvE Online End User License Agreement
A. 5 "You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights."
harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory
At what point does this constant use of the term "Evil" become harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory? It's his opinion. You aren't free from others opinions. Him stating it...even repeatedly...is not harassment. HTFU maybe? To be fair, Gevlon has gone out of his way to repeat on numerous occasions that he thinks the actual players, not just the in game personas of the goons are evil. So yes, it would fall under harassment. The only issue is that no goons give a flying **** what an autistic blogger who has dedicated near on a year of his life to this attack thinks. If Riptard were about, he'd sort it. He doesn't care about the opinions of the victim. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
782
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Posted - 2014.09.08 22:51:00 -
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"Here's a pie chart I made, I went through thousands of data points and skewed the results to make the chart say what I want it to. It has pretty colors!" Not today spaghetti. |
Amarr Citizen 1312151005
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:03:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Grrr goons.
So much butt hurt in one place, it is pretty funny.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2119
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:09:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:I think i'll toss this to the wolves.... Misquoting ISD is walking on a razors edge..... Let me put it this way, it did not belong in GD.
That said, I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1281
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:25:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Leto Thule wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:I think i'll toss this to the wolves.... Misquoting ISD is walking on a razors edge.....
Lol I figured I would quote for context.
Note taken though. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Darth Yayo
Veritas Theory Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:30:00 -
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Hey guys here are numbers for this month I am going to put out a contract for killing ratters.
FCON is currently deployed away from Branch.
FCON returns to Branch doubling the amount of ratters.
Look all of a sudden my campaign against CFC has worked there are more kills this month I am so awesome.
This clown is so transparent it hurts my eyes just to read the dribble. Please for the love of everything bring content to our doorstep I am looking forward to it.
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Wingmate
Raven's Flight Northern Associates.
246
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:40:00 -
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*drivel
try to at least use the right words. i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6066
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:47:00 -
[48] - Quote
Surely it will work this time. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Deliberate Destruction of Spaceships
3556
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:54:00 -
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Confirming that my Goon masters asked me to hire Gevlon to test out our ratters' mettle in Branch.
The ones found worthy will be eligible to graduate to full CFC membership if they choose, the others will be left renting.
The master plan continues.
I'll be back, need to speak to the spies in EVE Uni for the next phase of the plan... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366607 - Gank incursion runners, win prizes! August 26-Sept 30. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
734
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Posted - 2014.09.09 02:10:00 -
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gee gevlon what happened to your last thread with one of these brilliant plans |
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Damon Messer
Emergent Mining Et Al.
56
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Posted - 2014.09.09 02:44:00 -
[51] - Quote
Can I have some popcorn? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9574
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Posted - 2014.09.09 03:42:00 -
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Ah, that reminds me. I need to step up my campaign against N3 renters. They have better tears and tend to give up killmails more often. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2014.09.09 05:06:00 -
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I'm all in for pew pew without the need to deploy half across the map to find a few decent fights. So I beg you all, please reinforce our pos's, target our miners and ratters and bring hell on our isk printing home. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6070
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Posted - 2014.09.09 05:57:00 -
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P'tank wrote:I'm all in for pew pew without the need to deploy half across the map to find a few decent fights. So I beg you all, please reinforce our pos's, target our miners and ratters and bring hell on our isk printing home.
I'm starting to really like this Gevlon guy. Who would have thought that he would become the mascot for anti-boredom in the CFC. I for one am appreciative of this free service that he has provided to the CFC as a whole. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Raiz Nhell
Veni Vidi Vici Reloaded
382
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Posted - 2014.09.09 06:05:00 -
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Who's got the popcorn? Pass it round...
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2014.09.09 06:12:00 -
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Graph or it never happened. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
283
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Posted - 2014.09.09 06:19:00 -
[57] - Quote
Christian Lionbate wrote:Graph or it never happened. Gladly! Here is the ratting graph of Deklein during the test run of the project. I paid MoA to have a ratter-hunting spree to see if it is possible to sabotage ratting. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3923
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Posted - 2014.09.09 06:25:00 -
[58] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:So Branch is a perfect place for a coordinated strike against the CFC: an open bounty is not coordinated. at all
Quote:The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B. you've been told why this is a stupid way of attributing damage before
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6070
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Posted - 2014.09.09 06:56:00 -
[59] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Christian Lionbate wrote:Graph or it never happened. Gladly! Here is the ratting graph of Deklein during the test run of the project. I paid MoA to have a ratter-hunting spree to see if it is possible to sabotage ratting.
Did you compensate for the amount of people on deployment? I'd hate for something like that to get in the way of this Goonswarm morale project. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2085
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:17:00 -
[60] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B.
you've been told why this is a stupid way of attributing damage before I'm actually curious as to why this is the case. Could you elaborate?
Even on an alliance level, if you look at the efficiency of individual corps, it's always something ridiculously high because the corps get all of the credit for everything the alliance kills (assuming they have at least 1 guy participating) while only being "deducted" for their own corp losses. Thus, even the shittiest member corp in...say... CVA will always have a very good efficiency on the corp level, even if their alliance is getting farmed by PL. This becomes doubly true in coalition-level fights. |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6070
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:25:00 -
[61] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B.
you've been told why this is a stupid way of attributing damage before I'm actually curious as to why this is the case. Could you elaborate? Even on an alliance level, if you look at the efficiency of individual corps, it's always something ridiculously high because the corps get all of the credit for everything the alliance kills (assuming they have at least 1 guy participating) while only being "deducted" for their own corp losses. Thus, even the shittiest member corp in...say... CVA will always have a very good efficiency on the corp level, even if their alliance is getting farmed by PL. This becomes doubly true in coalition-level fights.
If a sole Buzzard tackles a Dread & holds it for 5 minutes while reinforcements arrive, that kill happened solely because that one guy in the Buzzard tackled the Dread, but he's being given zero credit for the kill because he did no damage. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Damon Messer
Emergent Mining Et Al.
57
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:26:00 -
[62] - Quote
Gevlon, i've thought of a plan to finally end the evil! For the sake of success, I cannot divulge more information at this time, but I need some financial support. Send me 10b isk so I can carry out this plan! |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4202
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:27:00 -
[63] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B.
you've been told why this is a stupid way of attributing damage before I'm actually curious as to why this is the case. Could you elaborate? Even on an alliance level, if you look at the efficiency of individual corps, it's always something ridiculously high because the corps get all of the credit for everything the alliance kills (assuming they have at least 1 guy participating) while only being "deducted" for their own corp losses. Thus, even the shittiest member corp in...say... CVA will always have a very good efficiency on the corp level, even if their alliance is getting farmed by PL. This becomes doubly true in coalition-level fights. There's loads of reasons, like for example podded people dropping off of kills after a while even if they were critical to the fight. Mainly though it's support. Support roles don't do damage, but whole kills may not have even happened if the support roles weren't there. You won't kills titans without tackling them for example. Someone may be throwing out damage like a beast in a battle, but again, if there wasn't logi holding him up he might be dust in a couple of minutes.
The main thing to take away is that damage alone is not a true reflection of the battle, and far more than that contributes to a kill, so basing everything off of damage is ignoring all but a single factor. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2085
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:44:00 -
[64] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B.
you've been told why this is a stupid way of attributing damage before I'm actually curious as to why this is the case. Could you elaborate? Even on an alliance level, if you look at the efficiency of individual corps, it's always something ridiculously high because the corps get all of the credit for everything the alliance kills (assuming they have at least 1 guy participating) while only being "deducted" for their own corp losses. Thus, even the shittiest member corp in...say... CVA will always have a very good efficiency on the corp level, even if their alliance is getting farmed by PL. This becomes doubly true in coalition-level fights. If a sole Buzzard tackles a Dread & holds it for 5 minutes while reinforcements arrive, that kill happened solely because that one guy in the Buzzard tackled the Dread, but he's being given zero credit for the kill because he did no damage. Yeah, but that's the rare exception rather then the rule.
Seems to me that 99% of the time the situation would be exactly as I described it, but vOv.
Lucas Kell wrote: The main thing to take away is that damage alone is not a true reflection of the battle, and far more than that contributes to a kill, so basing everything off of damage is ignoring all but a single factor.
Well yeah, all kb stats are flawed to a degree. The question is weather "de-whored" stats are more flawed than "whored" stats. So far, I'm not convinced but w/e. |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
112
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Posted - 2014.09.09 08:03:00 -
[65] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Christian Lionbate wrote:Graph or it never happened. Gladly! Here is the ratting graph of Deklein during the test run of the project. I paid MoA to have a ratter-hunting spree to see if it is possible to sabotage ratting. Did you compensate for the amount of people on deployment? I'd hate for something like that to get in the way of this Goonswarm morale project.
You mean how goons basically lived in delve from 9 August to 7 September?
Or the fact the only reason our ratting numbers are higher is the fact we were deployed in Deklein and our members could burn home to rat as long as they made the strat ops? |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
283
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Posted - 2014.09.09 08:17:00 -
[66] - Quote
Yes, de-whoring is unfair to support-only pilots, but we are comparing corps here. And in my monthly reports: alliances.
Or are you claiming that some corps only fly tackle, logi and Ewar, while others only fly damage dealers? My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
2
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Posted - 2014.09.09 08:35:00 -
[67] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:P'tank wrote:I'm all in for pew pew without the need to deploy half across the map to find a few decent fights. So I beg you all, please reinforce our pos's, target our miners and ratters and bring hell on our isk printing home. I'm starting to really like this Gevlon guy. Who would have thought that he would become the mascot for anti-boredom in the CFC. I for one am appreciative of this free service that he has provided to the CFC as a whole.
Since Branch is one of the most rewarding regions in the universe, we are all rich as ****. Therefore I'm putting an extra spare pvp carrier, a shield and armor triage carrier and a dread to the cause. Nicely parked in Branch. That's 10bil I'm putting on this, so you'd better bring it.
How long has it actually been since someone successfully captured a station system in one of the CFC home regions? I'm starting to consider actually paying our enemies to attack us ... I guess being hostile to the CFC must be pretty scary. |
Nioda
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:29:00 -
[68] - Quote
intel channel still isnt blinking. hurry please |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6074
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Or are you claiming that some corps only fly tackle, logi and Ewar, while others only fly damage dealers?
It depends on the situation, but they do exist. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Nadezda Morozovovna
Deadly Harmony Fidelas Constans
17
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Posted - 2014.09.09 10:04:00 -
[70] - Quote
If you send me 10b, ill selfdestruct all my isktars! |
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4202
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Posted - 2014.09.09 10:35:00 -
[71] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Well yeah, all kb stats are flawed to a degree. The question is whether "de-whored" stats are more flawed than "whored" stats. So far, I'm not convinced but w/e. Well that depends how you look at it. Since he's looking at how much a given corporation contributed to a kill, either way the killboard wont tell the whole story, but a dewhored kill will show it even less.
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Or are you claiming that some corps only fly tackle, logi and Ewar, while others only fly damage dealers? A corp may only have one or two people in a given battle, so yes, it's very possible to only have logi for example. That's why we use participation links which log what ship you are in and reward for support roles as well as DPS roles. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
858
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Posted - 2014.09.09 12:14:00 -
[72] - Quote
/facepalms
Welp.
Here we go again.
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3603
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Posted - 2014.09.09 12:23:00 -
[73] - Quote
Gevlon, you still havent indicated exactly why Goons are categorically evil. I'm genuinely interested in your motives but just 'evil' doesn't explain much. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
858
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Posted - 2014.09.09 12:26:00 -
[74] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon, you still havent indicated exactly why Goons are categorically evil. I'm genuinely interested in your motives but just 'evil' doesn't explain much.
He's still upset about getting banned from 4chan.
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
736
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Posted - 2014.09.09 12:58:00 -
[75] - Quote
if gevlon did not exist it would be necessary to create him so that we could point to our enemies as obeying the very avatar of autism
guess we'll just have to camp moa into their station again :ohdear: |
P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
2
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Posted - 2014.09.09 13:51:00 -
[76] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
To facilitate the hunt in Branch, I hereby offer 20B every month, starting from September (including the kills already happened this month).
Hi
I'm a wealthy player quitting Eve. I support your cause, therefore I've got a one time special offer to double your isk. Please send me the 20B you've reserved for september and I'll double it. After I've received 20B, I will send you 40B a soon as I log on. I might even triple it to 60B if you are nice to me.
Keep in mind this an official written document which can be enforced by a court of law. I hereby will officially add my digital signature to this post:
Digital signature:
P'tank |
Patrios Nolen
Ship Trading Company Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.09.09 16:38:00 -
[77] - Quote
Content at home? Wow, how nice of you. You are really welcome.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33469087/Goblin/Goblin.png |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6082
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:22:00 -
[78] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon, you still havent indicated exactly why Goons are categorically evil. I'm genuinely interested in your motives but just 'evil' doesn't explain much.
He did actually. You see the evil goon man said lol & rejected his application to join goonwaffe. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
6
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Posted - 2014.09.09 19:23:00 -
[79] - Quote
This!!! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11148
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:26:00 -
[80] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon, you still havent indicated exactly why Goons are categorically evil. I'm genuinely interested in your motives but just 'evil' doesn't explain much. He did actually. You see the evil goon man said lol & rejected his application to join goonwaffe.
and that apparently makes us racists! Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6082
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:28:00 -
[81] - Quote
Andski wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon, you still havent indicated exactly why Goons are categorically evil. I'm genuinely interested in your motives but just 'evil' doesn't explain much. He did actually. You see the evil goon man said lol & rejected his application to join goonwaffe. and that apparently makes us racists!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dAUYAg8mAQ This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Scar Tripitaka
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:56:00 -
[82] - Quote
Oi! Gobbler!
Come ahead ya tw4t ;)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ocf6o6rchf3pv7b/Scar%20loves%20you.png?dl=0 |
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
923
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Posted - 2014.09.09 21:35:00 -
[83] - Quote
Raiz Nhell wrote:Who's got the popcorn? Pass it round...
It's genuinely not a prudent idea to pass around popcorn smeared with butter when the majority of people dipping their hands into the bucket probably never washed them the last time they went to the toilet. Concord Approved Trader |
Solecist Project
9872
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:05:00 -
[84] - Quote
This thread is a bit like the Who's Who of EVE ONLINE....
Kane's missing. Monk's missing. Don's missing.
Well we still got lots of pages left ................. ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2135
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:39:00 -
[85] - Quote
At least I'm here...
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Chad Ramsbottom
University of Caille Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:51:00 -
[86] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon, you still havent indicated exactly why Goons are categorically evil. I'm genuinely interested in your motives but just 'evil' doesn't explain much. He did actually. You see the evil goon man said lol & rejected his application to join goonwaffe.
Oh darn >mfw your bottom |
Solecist Project
9874
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Posted - 2014.09.10 00:15:00 -
[87] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:At least I'm here... By far my favourite, the peoples favourite, and the most competent ISD regarding how to handle things and people.
~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
ZAKURELL0 LINDA
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
57
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Posted - 2014.09.10 01:53:00 -
[88] - Quote
[img]http://diablo.incgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/goblin-pose1.jpg[/img]
hey i found a self portrait, is that you goblin? RIP Iron Lady |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
113
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Posted - 2014.09.10 03:45:00 -
[89] - Quote
FYI the best day to come into the North to hunt the dreaded goons and fcon is sept 13th. |
Cherry Yeyo
78
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Posted - 2014.09.10 04:09:00 -
[90] - Quote
Hey Goblin! Looks like this pet was out of the zone!
https://zkillboard.com/kill/41177894/ CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides |
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xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
113
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Posted - 2014.09.10 05:45:00 -
[91] - Quote
But that Aeon was supposed to come hunting in Branch...How am I going to fail bait more if you kill them before they get here. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11153
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Posted - 2014.09.10 05:58:00 -
[92] - Quote
looks like money well spent Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Don Purple
655
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Posted - 2014.09.10 06:24:00 -
[93] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Some of you probably know that I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members). I've spent more than 300B in 2014 on this noble quest. For example I've been paying for the wardecs of The Marmite Collective in highsec against all CFC members (that's about 30B/month wardec fees). I'm also financially supporting Mordus Angels who live in an NPC station deep in CFC space and kill lot of minions of Evil. I used to pay the wardecs of Darwins Lemmings, this project was closed due to not be able to outperform Marmite, but they still cost me about 50B and killed 300B+ CFC while they lasted. I'm having a 20B titan bounty in progress. I'm writing these so you won't doubt that this offer is real and not some weird scam attempt. So, I've been collecting data about CFC activities and after looking at the August ratting data and the August CFC losses data, I've found that there is insane amount of ratting in Branch but relatively low PvP activity. Branch is the home of PBLRD (CFC renter) and FCON (CFC PvE alliance), both have 30-35% ISK ratio against Battlement Coalition (of Mordus Angels and fellow NPC dwellers). So Branch is a perfect place for a coordinated strike against the CFC: there are lot of ratters there with practically no PvP-ers to defend them. To facilitate the hunt in Branch, I hereby offer 20B every month, starting from September (including the kills already happened this month). The rules:
- The bounty is paid to corps, to the corp wallet.
- The bounty is automatic, you don't have to sign up or do anything but killing CFC in Branch. Many corps will be pretty surprised when they get ISK out of the blue.
- CFC members are obviously not eligible. Nor NPC corps.
- The kill must be on Zkillboard with API verification. (Hint: submit your corp API to Zkillboard.)
- Only loss reports over 150M count, as I need to be able to manually check them for T1 haulers full of goods with manipulated prices and other scam attempts. Such kills are obviously disqualified and listed for everyone to see.
- Only player ships matter, I won't motivate anyone to grind structures in bombless bombers.
- The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B.
- Only bounties over 500M are paid, the long tail is cut off and their share is redistributed among the top killers.
At the beginning of each month, I process the killboard data and create a report and distribute the bounty of the previous month. As an example, here is the imaginary August report (there was no project in August, so don't expect money for your August kills). On the example report you can see that 500M bounty could be earned by killing mere 1.7B CFC. If you think your corp is capable of killing more, it's time to deploy to Branch and participate in the noble contest. Are you a multiboxer? Create a corp, place a bunch of AFK-cloakers with covert cynos and catch ratters! By bringing death and destruction to the minions of Goons, you also contribute to a better nullsec, one without The Evil ruling it. By encouraging PBLRD ratters to change to NA/B0T and by driving FCON out of nullsec, a huge step will be made towards this Goon-free vision.
This fellah sure is interesting.
I am just here to snuggle. |
Solecist Project
9884
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Posted - 2014.09.10 08:01:00 -
[94] - Quote
Don Purple wrote:This fellah sure is interesting. Don Purple.
Check. ^_^
~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Heavy Met4l Queen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2014.09.10 08:16:00 -
[95] - Quote
Posting for future comical reference. In the game of conquest, who cares about the pawns if the king yet reigns? |
Solecist Project
9884
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Posted - 2014.09.10 08:26:00 -
[96] - Quote
Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:Posting for future comical reference. Hey sexy! You here too! ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
6
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Posted - 2014.09.10 08:35:00 -
[97] - Quote
Last night (EU tz), nothing happened. Eventually went to Venal en reffed a few POS's out of pure boredom.
Where are the fleets? It's not that difficult. I'll help you all a bit. Since that autistic midget sitting on your shoulder likes lists, here is one:
Step 1: Move yourself to a Venal station close to Branch. Take a cloaky ship or interceptor. This should be easy. Step 2: Use a hauling service (like Black frog or so) to move over a few pew pew ships. Step 3: Get a few friends to do the same. Step 4: Form a fleet with your friends and the locals (they really like us, we shoot their pos's on the money moons in their f*** home systems). Step 5: Go to Branch an try to kill stuff. We are ratting in carriers and faction battleships you know! Mostly even afk. Step 6: Fight
PS: my isk doubling/tripling offer still applies. |
P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
6
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Posted - 2014.09.10 08:38:00 -
[98] - Quote
Forgot one thing: this map shows where all the ratting ships are:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Branch#npc24
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Heavy Met4l Queen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
55
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Posted - 2014.09.10 09:09:00 -
[99] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:Posting for future comical reference. Hey sexy! You here too!
I see i find myself in good company even when under gevlons incompetent regime.
Additionally, you don't look too bad yourself when i expand that portrait. Miss the old look though... In the game of conquest, who cares about the pawns if the king yet reigns? |
Solecist Project
9885
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Posted - 2014.09.10 09:38:00 -
[100] - Quote
Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:Posting for future comical reference. Hey sexy! You here too! I see i find myself in good company even when under gevlons incompetent regime. Additionally, you don't look too bad yourself when i expand that portrait. Miss the old look though... There's not much left to see on my portrait ...........
Which one was that? I have lots of images to share, if it's your .... taste .... (:
Was quite surprised when I saw you're a goon. Guess you have good friends now. :) ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
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Solj RichPopolous
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
76
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Posted - 2014.09.10 10:10:00 -
[101] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Some of you probably know that I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members). I've spent more than 300B in 2014 on this noble quest. For example I've been paying for the wardecs of The Marmite Collective in highsec against all CFC members (that's about 30B/month wardec fees). I'm also financially supporting Mordus Angels who live in an NPC station deep in CFC space and kill lot of minions of Evil. I used to pay the wardecs of Darwins Lemmings, this project was closed due to not be able to outperform Marmite, but they still cost me about 50B and killed 300B+ CFC while they lasted. I'm having a 20B titan bounty in progress. I'm writing these so you won't doubt that this offer is real and not some weird scam attempt. So, I've been collecting data about CFC activities and after looking at the August ratting data and the August CFC losses data, I've found that there is insane amount of ratting in Branch but relatively low PvP activity. Branch is the home of PBLRD (CFC renter) and FCON (CFC PvE alliance), both have 30-35% ISK ratio against Battlement Coalition (of Mordus Angels and fellow NPC dwellers). So Branch is a perfect place for a coordinated strike against the CFC: there are lot of ratters there with practically no PvP-ers to defend them. To facilitate the hunt in Branch, I hereby offer 20B every month, starting from September (including the kills already happened this month). The rules:
- The bounty is paid to corps, to the corp wallet.
- The bounty is automatic, you don't have to sign up or do anything but killing CFC in Branch. Many corps will be pretty surprised when they get ISK out of the blue.
- CFC members are obviously not eligible. Nor NPC corps.
- The kill must be on Zkillboard with API verification. (Hint: submit your corp API to Zkillboard.)
- Only loss reports over 150M count, as I need to be able to manually check them for T1 haulers full of goods with manipulated prices and other scam attempts. Such kills are obviously disqualified and listed for everyone to see.
- Only player ships matter, I won't motivate anyone to grind structures in bombless bombers.
- The kills are de-whored. If your corp scored 0.01% damage on a 100B titan, you get bounty after 10M kills, not 100B.
- Only bounties over 500M are paid, the long tail is cut off and their share is redistributed among the top killers.
At the beginning of each month, I process the killboard data and create a report and distribute the bounty of the previous month. As an example, here is the imaginary August report (there was no project in August, so don't expect money for your August kills). On the example report you can see that 500M bounty could be earned by killing mere 1.7B CFC. If you think your corp is capable of killing more, it's time to deploy to Branch and participate in the noble contest. Are you a multiboxer? Create a corp, place a bunch of AFK-cloakers with covert cynos and catch ratters! By bringing death and destruction to the minions of Goons, you also contribute to a better nullsec, one without The Evil ruling it. By encouraging PBLRD ratters to change to NA/B0T and by driving FCON out of nullsec, a huge step will be made towards this Goon-free vision.
Pursuit of Happiness would love to receive a contract for a war dec on CFC from you. We actually specialize in hunting WTs outside of the main hubs and connecting pipes. We will even venture into low/null/WH to find some action. I will contact you ingame about this. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6088
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:00:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Was quite surprised when I saw you're a goon. Guess you have good friends now. :)
Yeah HMQ the former raging death threat carebear can get in to Goonwaffe but Gevlon can't, take from that what you will. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6088
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:01:00 -
[103] - Quote
Also HMQ I'm sorry for dumpstering your reputation that one time, but you're cool now. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Harry Juana
Ship Trading Company Fidelas Constans
5
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Posted - 2014.09.10 12:45:00 -
[104] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon, you still havent indicated exactly why Goons are categorically evil. I'm genuinely interested in your motives but just 'evil' doesn't explain much.
He probably is too ashamed to tell us, his butt still hurts |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4729
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:33:00 -
[105] - Quote
P'tank wrote:...autistic midget...
Wow, two bigotries in one post, congratulations, you just made WBC look like angels.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
738
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Posted - 2014.09.10 14:26:00 -
[106] - Quote
based on the moa donation board the only group with plenty of people willing to chip in for someone to attack the cfc is the cfc itself
that's some fine work there mr. goblin not an embarrassment at all |
Heavy Met4l Queen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:10:00 -
[107] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Also HMQ I'm sorry for dumpstering your reputation that one time, but you're cool now.
Past reputation deserves to be dumpstered. But i can honestly say that i'm grateful to the new order (specifically Neltharak Idrissil and Hesperaa in Arctic Dungeon) for chasing me into lowsec. If it wasn't for them, i would probably still be trying to be the CEO of a pathetic highsec corp. I'm glad i got out before i turned gevlon.
Also, i want your coat. kinda badly. In the game of conquest, who cares about the pawns if the king yet reigns? |
Neltharak Idrissil
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
29
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:32:00 -
[108] - Quote
Glad to be of service, evidently good sir ! |
Neltharak Idrissil
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
29
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:45:00 -
[109] - Quote
oh **** a gevlon thread, i didnt even notice
Can someone hand me popcorn ? |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
287
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:46:00 -
[110] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:based on the moa donation board the only group with plenty of people willing to chip in for someone to attack the cfc is the cfc itself
that's some fine work there mr. goblin not an embarrassment at all Yes, 0.38B is definitely the majority of 17.66B. 2.1% to be exact. Let me guess. The Mittani told you that a bombless bomber does "majority" of the DPS of a dread and you believed that too.
In the meantime, the Branch killboard start to look pretty nice. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1299
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:54:00 -
[111] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
In the meantime, the Branch killboard start to look pretty nice.
It looks the same as it always has. STFU unless your willing to undock and DO SOMETHING to achieve your goals. Your anti-goon threads arent even funny anymore, they are just adding more crap to the trash heap that C&P has turned into. The only thing you have succeeded in is making GOONS look like the good guys.
Titan. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4224
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Posted - 2014.09.10 18:03:00 -
[112] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:
In the meantime, the Branch killboard start to look pretty nice.
It looks the same as it always has. STFU unless your willing to undock and DO SOMETHING to achieve your goals. Your anti-goon threads arent even funny anymore, they are just adding more crap to the trash heap that C&P has turned into. The only thing you have succeeded in is making GOONS look like the good guys. Titan. You've forgotten, now that this thread has been made, every single kill that occurs in Branch is Gevlon's doing. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4224
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Posted - 2014.09.10 18:07:00 -
[113] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:based on the moa donation board the only group with plenty of people willing to chip in for someone to attack the cfc is the cfc itself
that's some fine work there mr. goblin not an embarrassment at all Yes, 0.38B is definitely the majority of 17.66B. 2.1% to be exact. Let me guess. The Mittani told you that a bombless bomber does "majority" of the DPS of a dread and you believed that too. In the meantime, the Branch killboard start to look pretty nice. First off, he didn't say majority, you did, he said "plenty of people". Secondly, even if he did say majority, more than half of the donators are CFC. This is a good example of where you take an incorrect bit of information and single piece of a stat and leap to a conclusion. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.10 18:55:00 -
[114] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:based on the moa donation board the only group with plenty of people willing to chip in for someone to attack the cfc is the cfc itself
that's some fine work there mr. goblin not an embarrassment at all Yes, 0.38B is definitely the majority of 17.66B. 2.1% to be exact. Let me guess. The Mittani told you that a bombless bomber does "majority" of the DPS of a dread and you believed that too. In the meantime, the Branch killboard start to look pretty nice. sorry dumbo my statement was correct, as it focused on number of people
the only other people donating to moa are moa itself as that npc alt is assuredly pulling the same scam test pulled on you (it is still hilarious how obvious that scam was and how easily you bought it) to try and make the board look less pathetic |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:01:00 -
[115] - Quote
at this rate gevlon's next post is going to be using the relative size of the CFC donations on the moa killboard to imply the cfc is poor and can't afford to donate more |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:05:00 -
[116] - Quote
i have emerged from the distant mists of the near future and brought you the headlines of the Gevlon Post from October:
Quote: BURN BRANCH CAMPAIGN A SUCCESS: CFC DONATIONS TO BURN BRANCH CAMPAIGN IN OCTOBER SHRINK TO 10% OF THEIR DONATIONS IN SEPTEMBER, PROVING THAT CFC INCOME IS 10% OF WHAT IT USED TO BE
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2148
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Posted - 2014.09.10 20:19:00 -
[117] - Quote
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.10 20:51:00 -
[118] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:based on the moa donation board the only group with plenty of people willing to chip in for someone to attack the cfc is the cfc itself
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. Yes, 0.38B is definitely the majority of 17.66B. 2.1% to be exact. Let me guess. The Mittani told you that a bombless bomber does "majority" of the DPS of a dread and you believed that too. In the meantime, the Branch killboard start to look pretty nice. because ISD Ezwal felt the last time I corrected you was apparently insufficiently polite, i would politely suggest that you carefully ponder the difference between people and isk, a difference I was careful to make in my post, and that makes your reply look poorly considered
i would furthermore like to politely suggest that the only non-cfc group donating to moa is moa itself, which is probably laundering the money through npc alts like test did when test politely abused your perfectly well thought out plan to match any donation made to test by funneling their own isk through an npc alt, a loophole anyone could have forgotten to think about and i'm sure anyone would have fallen for
in all, i offer my sincere apologies for needing to be so impolite as to correct you in public but i do hope you will accept my apology and make the correction i have suggested
sincerely
retar aveymone |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4224
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Posted - 2014.09.10 21:44:00 -
[119] - Quote
Pointing out the way someone else legitimately claims victory is trolling now?
Honestly mate, this whole thread is a giant attack on the players that play goons, not the characters. There's literally no way this thread is going to get anywhere except to trolling, so why even bother leaving it open? The nutjob has said his part, nothing more needs to be added. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1574
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Posted - 2014.09.10 22:13:00 -
[120] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Some of you probably know that I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members). I've spent more than 300B in 2014 on this noble quest.
Have you considered firing whoever you got to proof-read your post? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2088
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Posted - 2014.09.10 23:08:00 -
[121] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Pointing out the way someone else legitimately claims victory is trolling now? Honestly mate, this whole thread is a giant attack on the players that play goons, not the characters. There's literally no way this thread is going to get anywhere except to trolling, so why even bother leaving it open? The nutjob has said his part, nothing more needs to be added. TBH I've seen more attacks made by goons than posts attacking goons in this thread.
Now, to stay on topic: ALMS! Alms for the poor! I said ALMS goddammit! (preferably sent directly to my character , but you can use the donation page too. ) |
Cherry Yeyo
80
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Posted - 2014.09.10 23:35:00 -
[122] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pointing out the way someone else legitimately claims victory is trolling now? Honestly mate, this whole thread is a giant attack on the players that play goons, not the characters. There's literally no way this thread is going to get anywhere except to trolling, so why even bother leaving it open? The nutjob has said his part, nothing more needs to be added. TBH I've seen more attacks made by goons than posts attacking goons in this thread. Now, to stay on topic: ALMS! Alms for the poor! I said ALMS goddammit! (preferably sent directly to my character , but you can use the donation page too. ) will you buy supers or interceptors with your alms? CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2088
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Posted - 2014.09.10 23:50:00 -
[123] - Quote
Cherry Yeyo wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pointing out the way someone else legitimately claims victory is trolling now? Honestly mate, this whole thread is a giant attack on the players that play goons, not the characters. There's literally no way this thread is going to get anywhere except to trolling, so why even bother leaving it open? The nutjob has said his part, nothing more needs to be added. TBH I've seen more attacks made by goons than posts attacking goons in this thread. Now, to stay on topic: ALMS! Alms for the poor! I said ALMS goddammit! (preferably sent directly to my character , but you can use the donation page too. ) will you buy supers or interceptors with your alms? Buy Super Alt Char ---> Buy Super ---> Drop on ratting Carrier ---> Get tackled --> Generate Hilarious lossmail with inertial stabilizer fit Hel/Nyx.
That's what I'll do with any alms sent my way, content for everyone. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2014.09.10 23:50:00 -
[124] - Quote
Step up your game, Gevlon, according to MoA we've already cost them more money in 5ZXX in 5 days than has been donated by your program. |
Grum P Pants
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:09:00 -
[125] - Quote
Who is this Gobble guy anyway?
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Subject 4927
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2014.09.11 02:00:00 -
[126] - Quote
Can't hate on a guy for doing what he loves. RP. http://subjectandfriends.wordpress.com |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
287
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Posted - 2014.09.11 04:23:00 -
[127] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote: i would politely suggest that you carefully ponder the difference between people and isk, a difference I was careful to make in my post, and that makes your reply look poorly considered
So you claim that dozens of Goons trolling with a few million is important.
[/quote]i would furthermore like to politely suggest that the only non-cfc group donating to moa is moa itself,[/quote] Like Carl Stonewall of Dirty Old Bastards of Nulli Secunda with 3B donation
Quote: which is probably laundering the money through npc alts like test did when test politely abused your perfectly well thought out plan to match any donation made to test by funneling their own isk through an npc alt, a loophole anyone could have forgotten to think about and i'm sure anyone would have fallen for Which is completely pointless as I already donated 3B/week since June and will do, regardless of the board. Also, the 5B donation came from this guy
I understand that the possibility that people give money away to hurt you is too hurtful, but you should have considered this possibility when you ganked, trolled, recruitment scammed and ridiculed them for lols. Or maybe you didn't, but joined a group that does it as its defining criteria. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
287
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Posted - 2014.09.11 04:26:00 -
[128] - Quote
Accidental doublepost, sorry. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 04:48:00 -
[129] - Quote
Very bot-like behavior. Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4230
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Posted - 2014.09.11 07:01:00 -
[130] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pointing out the way someone else legitimately claims victory is trolling now? Honestly mate, this whole thread is a giant attack on the players that play goons, not the characters. There's literally no way this thread is going to get anywhere except to trolling, so why even bother leaving it open? The nutjob has said his part, nothing more needs to be added. TBH I've seen more attacks made by goons than posts attacking goons in this thread. Now, to stay on topic: ALMS! Alms for the poor! I said ALMS goddammit! (preferably sent directly to my character , but you can use the donation page too. And you are in no way biased, lol.
By the way, the whole donation thing, isn't that pretty much declaring to the world that your alliance is too poor to survive alone? I sense that much like test, the end may be nigh. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
8
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Posted - 2014.09.11 08:06:00 -
[131] - Quote
pffffffff
Not a lot of action last night (EU) either. Got bored, killed a few pos's. Still waiting for the first decent gang to show up in Branch ...
https://zkillboard.com/kill/41189371/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/41189723/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/41189935/ |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:00:00 -
[132] - Quote
Any EVE player worth their salt is going to tell that this is yet another scheme of Gevlon's that's bound to fail.
Besides, may I remind you all that the reason Gevlon is trying and failing to wage meaningful opposition against us is only because he views himself as a high ranking EVE player, and he wants to join GoonWaffe, which he sees as the highest ranking organization in EVE that suits his playstyle?
To paraphrase, Gevlon does not want to be in MoA. For all intents and purposes, I do not see Gevlon as holding MoA in high regard. On the contrary, he wants to be in GoonWaffe. He attempted to join, and he was told to fulfill the membership criteria and try again. (Which is create a SA account, contribute posts)
But no, Gevlon thought he was above that. So he started his going nowhere project to prove a point. Everything I mentioned above is evident in his blog posts and comments.
As such, any MoA who buys into Gevlon's false narrative is just suffering to get Gevlon into GoonWaffe.
Do I have to tell you Gevlon, that you are never getting in? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11162
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:11:00 -
[133] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:So you claim that dozens of Goons trolling with a few million is important.
considering that our troll donations remain on the first page of their donation board, yes
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Like Carl Stonewall of Dirty Old Bastards of Nulli Secunda with 3B donation
and the sum of their donations is still pitiful even with those large donations
Gevlon GoblinWhich is completely pointless as I already donated 3B/week since June and will do, regardless of the board. Also, the 5B donation came from [url=http://merchantmonarchy.blogspot.hu/2014/09/dead-goons-token-of-support-for-their.html wrote:this guy[/url]
and two months of your donations have paid for, what exactly?
Gevlon Goblin wrote:I understand that the possibility that people give money away to hurt you is too hurtful, but you should have considered this possibility when you ganked, trolled, recruitment scammed and ridiculed them for lols. Or maybe you didn't, but joined a group that do these as its defining criteria.
if the effect of all the scamming, ganking and ridiculing we've done since 2005 is less than 20 billion ISK in donations to an alliance that cannot engage in attrition warfare on its own, i suppose we haven't done a very good job at scamming, ganking and ridiculing people Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:16:00 -
[134] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Cherry Yeyo wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pointing out the way someone else legitimately claims victory is trolling now? Honestly mate, this whole thread is a giant attack on the players that play goons, not the characters. There's literally no way this thread is going to get anywhere except to trolling, so why even bother leaving it open? The nutjob has said his part, nothing more needs to be added. TBH I've seen more attacks made by goons than posts attacking goons in this thread. Now, to stay on topic: ALMS! Alms for the poor! I said ALMS goddammit! (preferably sent directly to my character , but you can use the donation page too. ) will you buy supers or interceptors with your alms? Buy Super Alt Char ---> Buy Super ---> Drop on ratting Carrier ---> Get tackled --> Generate Hilarious lossmail with inertial stabilizer fit Hel/Nyx. That's what I'll do with any alms sent my way, content for everyone.
Make sure to do that. But it won't help Gevlon get into GoonWaffe. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11162
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:18:00 -
[135] - Quote
what's the opportunity cost of parsing killboard data and making charts and graphs and making ISK to fund projects intended to destroy the people who denied your membership application (with a success rate of 0%) vs. paying $10 for a forum account and making a hundred posts over 3 months to fulfill membership requirements (with a success rate of 100%)
i ask this because gevlon really likes to talk about opportunity cost w/r/t all the precious time we waste shooting structures in our terrible, terrible bombless bombers (which according to renowned PvP expert Gevlon Goblin are solely intended for bombing and their bonuses to torpedoes are solely cosmetic) Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:19:00 -
[136] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:So you claim that dozens of Goons trolling with a few million is important.
Total amount of CFC contributions easily come close and match the top non-CFC donations. It's not just a few millions. But by your flawed logic, that should put the nonsense that 'Goons are poor' to bed.
I mean, according to Gevlon, a Goon can only make 600m per month!
Everybody who has contributed academically to the science of statistics are turning in their graves. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:21:00 -
[137] - Quote
Andski wrote:what's the opportunity cost of parsing killboard data and making charts and graphs and making ISK to fund projects intended to destroy the people who denied your membership application (with a success rate of 0%) vs. paying $10 for a forum account and making a hundred posts to fulfill membership requirements (with a success rate of 100%)
i ask this because gevlon really likes to talk about opportunity cost w/r/t all the precious time we waste shooting structures in our terrible, terrible bombless bombers (which according to renowned PvP expert Gevlon Goblin are solely intended for bombing and their bonuses to torpedoes are solely cosmetic)
He is losing out on station trading and farming Thukker mining missions in Hodrold on at least six alts. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11162
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:27:00 -
[138] - Quote
https://kb.fcon.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=499212 https://kb.fcon.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=498722
these individuals were killed by a MOA pilot multiboxing bombless bombers
perhaps Gevlon should give him a stern talking to about the proper uses of bombers Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:04:00 -
[139] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Which is completely pointless as I already donated 3B/week since June and will do, regardless of the board. Also, the 5B donation came from this guyI understand that the possibility that people give money away to hurt you is too hurtful, but you should have considered this possibility when you ganked, trolled, recruitment scammed and ridiculed them for lols. Or maybe you didn't, but joined a group that do these as its defining criteria. i am disappointed so few people did, yes
we'll have to aim some more jets of urine at some more faces |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:06:00 -
[140] - Quote
regrettably though although gevlon is absolutely hilarious he makes everyone else edge away from hating us because then they have to be on gevlon's side and that's not something they're eager to do |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:08:00 -
[141] - Quote
Andski wrote:what's the opportunity cost of parsing killboard data and making charts and graphs and making ISK to fund projects intended to destroy the people who denied your membership application (with a success rate of 0%) vs. paying $10 for a forum account and making a hundred posts over 3 months to fulfill membership requirements (with a success rate of 100%)
i ask this because gevlon really likes to talk about opportunity cost w/r/t all the precious time we waste shooting structures in our terrible, terrible bombless bombers (which according to renowned PvP expert Gevlon Goblin are solely intended for bombing and their bonuses to torpedoes are solely cosmetic) even better: replicator, the moa guy who tried to camp deklein, kept attacking pos in fleets of stealth bombers
he gave up on that and started trying to camp deklein because we kept blowing him the **** up |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
78
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:43:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:Any EVE player worth their salt is going to tell that this is yet another scheme of Gevlon's that's bound to fail. Besides, may I remind you all that the reason Gevlon is trying and failing to wage meaningful opposition against us is only because he views himself as a high ranking EVE player, and he wants to join GoonWaffe, which he sees as the highest ranking organization in EVE that suits his playstyle? To paraphrase, Gevlon does not want to be in MoA or any other similar lesser entity that exist in null without any power at all. This means, for all intents and purposes, one cannot see Gevlon as holding MoA in high regard. On the contrary, he wants to be in GoonWaffe. He wants to be in the CFC which has a true effect on null politics. He attempted to join, and he was told to fulfill the membership criteria and try again. (Which is create a SA account, contribute posts. Simple membership criteria that GoonWaffe upheld since it's conception. Similar to say, Dreddit's membership criteria that one has to be an active Reddit user before applying to join.) But no, Gevlon thought he was above that. So he started his going nowhere project to prove a point. Everything I mentioned above is evident in his blog posts and comments. As such, any MoA who buys into Gevlon's false 'evil Goons' narrative is just suffering to get Gevlon into GoonWaffe. He acknowledges that how Goons play EVE perfectly suits to his play style and how he'd have been the perfect Goon himself! (Of course by his propaganda, that also makes Gevlon evil, but does his contradictions really surprise you at this point?) Do I have to tell you Gevlon, that you are never getting in?
I think most people would give higher regard to an infamous figure, like Gevlon Goblin, as opposed to some meaningless drone whose claim to fame is simply being a member, by throwing some meaningless posts on an SA site, of a leading corporation.
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
760
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:13:00 -
[143] - Quote
Charax Bouclier wrote: I think most people would give higher regard to an infamous figure, like Gevlon Goblin, as opposed to some inconsequential drone whose claim to fame is simply being a member, by throwing some meaningless posts on an SA site, of a leading corporation.
That depends. Is said infamy derived from being a repeat failure at one's singular stated purpose, and just getting louder with each of these failures? If so, I'd take "inconsequential drone" any day of the week.
Gevlon's kind of like the Buford T. Justice of Eve...just without the mildly amusing one-liners. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:26:00 -
[144] - Quote
Charax Bouclier wrote: I think most people would give higher regard to an infamous figure, like Gevlon Goblin, as opposed to some inconsequential drone whose claim to fame is simply being a member, by throwing some meaningless posts on an SA site, of a leading corporation.
gevlon is so hilarious precisely because he tries so hard yet remains so inconsequential except as a source of hilarious failure |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
79
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:37:00 -
[145] - Quote
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Charax Bouclier wrote: I think most people would give higher regard to an infamous figure, like Gevlon Goblin, as opposed to some inconsequential drone whose claim to fame is simply being a member, by throwing some meaningless posts on an SA site, of a leading corporation.
That depends. Is said infamy derived from being a repeat failure at one's singular stated purpose, and just getting louder with each of these failures? If so, I'd take "inconsequential drone" any day of the week. Gevlon's kind of like the Buford T. Justice of Eve...just without the mildly amusing one-liners.
On the internet, most people will gobble up things at face value and aren't clever enough to figure out true intent. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2090
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:02:00 -
[146] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:And you are in no way biased, lol. Count the number of posts made by CFC dudes in this thread attacking Gevlon. Count the number of posts attacking the CFC by anyone in this thread.
No bias required.
Lucas Kell wrote: By the way, the whole donation thing, isn't that pretty much declaring to the world that your alliance is too poor to survive alone? I sense that much like test, the end may be nigh.
Yes, the end is nigh! Sending me isk will expedite the end, so dig deep. |
Damon Messer
Emergent Mining Et Al.
58
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Posted - 2014.09.12 01:09:00 -
[147] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:And you are in no way biased, lol. Count the number of posts made by CFC dudes in this thread attacking Gevlon. Count the number of posts attacking the CFC by anyone in this thread. No bias required. Lucas Kell wrote: By the way, the whole donation thing, isn't that pretty much declaring to the world that your alliance is too poor to survive alone? I sense that much like test, the end may be nigh.
Yes, the end is nigh! Sending me isk will expedite the end, so dig deep.
can i has your stuff? |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
115
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Posted - 2014.09.12 05:02:00 -
[148] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:And you are in no way biased, lol. Count the number of posts made by CFC dudes in this thread attacking Gevlon. Count the number of posts attacking the CFC by anyone in this thread. No bias required. Lucas Kell wrote: By the way, the whole donation thing, isn't that pretty much declaring to the world that your alliance is too poor to survive alone? I sense that much like test, the end may be nigh.
Yes, the end is nigh! Sending me isk will expedite the end, so dig deep.
I never attacked him... Actually most of the FCON posts are welcoming the effort to invade branch. A defensive war with our assets being threatened should see full FCON fleets on top of the 2-3 CFC fleets that would form up in support.
Think of it like smashing your head against a brick wall to see which breaks first, Your skull or the bricks. I cant remember the last time the CFC has lost a system we actually cared about holding. Branch was invaded 2-3 times since the CFC took it from White Noise and has yet to fall.(SMA came close to losing a system or 2)
Fade and Pure Blind killing control towers isnt taking our sov or kicking us out. Your really not even greatly affecting income levels at that point.
Venal residents have lost basically everyone moon worth a profit and some that we just wanted to be dicks about.
Gonna have to dig deeper if you want results Gelvin. Finance 5-6 supers for Moa and tell them to start hitting sov. The CFC is so bad at holding tackle on supers they should survive for a while.
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Raiz Nhell
Veni Vidi Vici Reloaded
383
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Posted - 2014.09.12 05:54:00 -
[149] - Quote
CFC guys... Any chance you can just let GG into the CFC and put him in charge of a random function, or drop SOV for a system in Branch... I really really want to see his victory post!!!
Since complete and abject failure is met with howls of victory on his blog... I want to see what happens when he thinks he has actually succeeded... I am hoping for a head detonation :) There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2432
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:26:00 -
[150] - Quote
Raiz Nhell wrote:CFC guys... Any chance you can just let GG into the CFC and put him in charge of a random function, or drop SOV for a system in Branch... I really really want to see his victory post!!!
Since complete and abject failure is met with howls of victory on his blog... I want to see what happens when he thinks he has actually succeeded... I am hoping for a head detonation :)
Every day is victory day for 'the graphman' , that's probably the only thing i would envy from gevlon : no matter if everyone thinks he's the biggest faillure around in his own eyes he's king of the world.
Some days it's just hard being sane ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Bunny Muffin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:11:00 -
[151] - Quote
The amount of goons huffing and puffing in this thread is quite remarkable |
Ryno Caval
House of Praetor Fidelas Constans
28
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Posted - 2014.09.12 18:41:00 -
[152] - Quote
Wait FCON is a PVE alliance nobody told me |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
288
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Posted - 2014.09.13 06:51:00 -
[153] - Quote
Ryno Caval wrote:Wait FCON is a PVE alliance nobody told me Ask any random Goon, he can verify this statement. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2432
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Posted - 2014.09.13 08:53:00 -
[154] - Quote
Odd as you have shown in your graphs multiple times how it is FCON that has the highest performance on allmost every if not every big deployment CFC has done in the past years and on top of that you also have numerous graphs wich according to you showed that it's the goons who do most PVE out of all the CFC alliances.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2014.09.13 09:26:00 -
[155] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Ryno Caval wrote:Wait FCON is a PVE alliance nobody told me Ask any random Goon, he can verify this statement.
Nope. But if you believe FCON is a PvE alliance, why don't you try joining FCON instead since according to your posts, that is your ~playstyle?~
You are never getting into GoonWaffe. We do not feel that you are capable enough as an individual to follow extremely simple instructions. We have certain standards to uphold I'm afraid. Sorry, Gevlon. |
Big Lynx
Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent
636
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Posted - 2014.09.13 12:21:00 -
[156] - Quote
I still think the most annoying thing for gefflon is, that he can't and never will create a corp. Even for his own pleasure or building up an alliance against goons, cause the second he would do it, trillions of wardecs would rain in.... xD |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
646
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Posted - 2014.09.13 14:52:00 -
[157] - Quote
So many pages of words to explain why this isn't important. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6173
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Posted - 2014.09.13 17:44:00 -
[158] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Ryno Caval wrote:Wait FCON is a PVE alliance nobody told me Ask any random Goon, he can verify this statement. Nope. But if you believe FCON is a PvE alliance, why don't you try joining FCON instead since according to your posts, that is your ~playstyle?~ You are never getting into GoonWaffe. We do not feel that you are capable enough as an individual to follow extremely simple instructions. We have certain standards to uphold I'm afraid. Sorry, Gevlon.
He could always join WEON. They'll recruit anybody & he'd fit right in. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
849
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Posted - 2014.09.13 18:11:00 -
[159] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Some of you probably know that I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions
You could throw a trillion isk at the "issue" and it still wouldn't earn you an ounce of credit as long as you don't put any personal effort into it.
You can't buy relevance. You have to earn it through actual work. Hours and hours of interaction with human beings to make them believe that you care.
The sillies part about your "crusade" is that you can't even convince people that you care about the supposed damage that the Goons are doing. All you can do is latch on the infamy of the Goon name to try and leech some relevance off of it.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11247
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Posted - 2014.09.14 06:09:00 -
[160] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:So many pages of words to explain why this isn't important.
goons posting in a thread about goons is unusual, yes Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
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Cazador 64
1st Steps Academy Fidelas Constans
168
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Posted - 2014.09.14 09:08:00 -
[161] - Quote
Bunny Muffin wrote:The amount of goons huffing and puffing in this thread is quite remarkable Oh random NPC alt, I just don't see what you see. Also why are you hiding behind an alt anyways? |
Harry Juana
Ship Trading Company Fidelas Constans
5
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Posted - 2014.09.14 10:50:00 -
[162] - Quote
WTB: Gevlon pets to shoot, deliver to branch asap pls |
Maichin Civire
Sinister Spinster Advent of Fate
80
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Posted - 2014.09.14 11:00:00 -
[163] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:based on the moa donation board the only group with plenty of people willing to chip in for someone to attack the cfc is the cfc itself
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. Yes, 0.38B is definitely the majority of 17.66B. 2.1% to be exact. Let me guess. The Mittani told you that a bombless bomber does "majority" of the DPS of a dread and you believed that too. In the meantime, the Branch killboard start to look pretty nice.
Bombless bomber
People, we're going back to drinking!
Anyway, goblin, you're either really stubborn or have nothing to do irl (job, school, gf (teehee) or smthn). Anyway, why don't move forward? Why don't try to do something that can actually hurt CFC? http://quietrebelwriting.blogspot.com/
- my little blog about one of the worst blogs about EVE Online. |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1082
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Posted - 2014.09.14 20:50:00 -
[164] - Quote
Maichin Civire wrote:Why don't try to do something that can actually hurt CFC? He doesn't know how or he would have done it already.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3643
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Posted - 2014.09.15 17:00:00 -
[165] - Quote
How not to play Eve.
1. Make loads of money.
2. Have no competence to do anything worthwhile with that money.
3. Cry about Goons. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Ketchup Advisory Board
1029
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:26:00 -
[166] - Quote
I recently sent an expeditionary party to branch and found no evil there. I think this thread is an attempt to keep us from finding actual evil. I will be searching in high sec for the foreseeable future. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11247
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:42:00 -
[167] - Quote
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:I recently sent an expeditionary party to branch and found no evil there. I think this thread is an attempt to keep us from finding actual evil. I will be searching in high sec for the foreseeable future.
The evil manifests itself in the form of mining barges in hisec belts Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1248
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Posted - 2014.09.15 19:20:00 -
[168] - Quote
Why didn't this thread just ignore most of the OP content and just say: "Yay!! Content!!!"????? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6176
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Posted - 2014.09.15 21:27:00 -
[169] - Quote
So I logged in & AFK triple carrier ratted for like 11 hours yesterday & no MoA's came along for those easy kills, what's up with that? This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
402
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Posted - 2014.09.15 21:47:00 -
[170] - Quote
I think if Goblin was as irrelevant CFC people say he was, they wouldn't be posting so much. Not supporting/detracting from Goblin...just saying. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.15 23:26:00 -
[171] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I think if Goblin was as irrelevant CFC people say he was, they wouldn't be posting so much. Not supporting/detracting from Goblin...just saying. i think that if he was actually a threat and not a hilarious failure we'd not be going out of our way to point more attention at him |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
402
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Posted - 2014.09.16 00:30:00 -
[172] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I think if Goblin was as irrelevant CFC people say he was, they wouldn't be posting so much. Not supporting/detracting from Goblin...just saying. i think that if he was actually a threat and not a hilarious failure we'd not be going out of our way to point more attention at him
Really? From a Machiavellian perspective the opposite would be true. If his acts were truly irrelevant, you would run the risk of bringing more strength to his cause by underscoring every little even he does. If he is effective, then you'd try to discredit him, as this thread has seen.
If his numbers are true, which they may or may not be, his crusade hasn't been a failure. Paying 50 billion isk for Marmite's wardecs to do 300 billion isk damage to you guys is in fact an accomplishment and a rather efficient one at that. For every billion he spends, your coalition loses 60 billion. It's simply economics.
Now does that mean the CFC will be toppled by Goblin? Probably not. Are you guys evil? Maybe some of you but in general I find that most players are fairly similar across the board with some unique tendencies among individuals here and there. Is all of this interesting content and makes Eve a richer experience for all those involved? Defiantly. I don't view the CFC as "evil" but i'm glad he does as his motivation and animosity toward the CFC is content. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11248
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Posted - 2014.09.16 02:46:00 -
[173] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Really? From a Machiavellian perspective the opposite would be true. If his acts were truly irrelevant, you would run the risk of bringing more strength to his cause by underscoring every little even he does. If he is effective, then you'd try to discredit him, as this thread has seen.
If his numbers are true, which they may or may not be, his crusade hasn't been a failure. Paying 50 billion isk for Marmite's wardecs to do 300 billion isk damage to you guys is in fact an accomplishment and a rather efficient one at that. For every billion he spends, your coalition loses 60 billion. It's simply economics.
Now does that mean the CFC will be toppled by Goblin? Probably not. Are you guys evil? Maybe some of you but in general I find that most players are fairly similar across the board with some unique tendencies among individuals here and there. Is all of this interesting content and makes Eve a richer experience for all those involved? Defiantly. I don't view the CFC as "evil" but i'm glad he does as his motivation and animosity toward the CFC is content. nah Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11248
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Posted - 2014.09.16 02:53:00 -
[174] - Quote
also i'm not sure how you did the math that tells you 300 billion in damage / 50 billion in wardecs = 60 billion
that's 6 billion in damage per billion absorbed across a coalition of 35k people which is really not much, and you're forgetting that marmite would wardec us anyway because we're a fairly target-rich group
that's also not "economics" that's "basic primary school level arithmetic" Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11248
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Posted - 2014.09.16 03:03:00 -
[175] - Quote
also, if he wants to wave his numbers around he's still going to feel inadequate because we spent a pitiful sum of money on paying one half of the working class to kill the other half in hulkageddon 2, and when it came to exhumers we were paying out 100m for every 10 exhumers killed, i.e. 25b damage per billion spent
and even with that ridiculous efficiency those who participated still made a healthy profit, while gevlon has only been paying wardec fees Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3948
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Posted - 2014.09.16 03:24:00 -
[176] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:If his numbers are true, which they may or may not be, his crusade hasn't been a failure. Paying 50 billion isk for Marmite's wardecs to do 300 billion isk damage to you guys is in fact an accomplishment and a rather efficient one at that. For every billion he spends, your coalition loses 60 billion. It's simply economics. i think this is like throwing dollars at the birds and claiming you're responsible for the dawn chorus
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
852
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Posted - 2014.09.16 03:55:00 -
[177] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:[quote=Retar Aveymone][quote=Seraph IX Basarab]If his numbers are true, which they may or may not be, his crusade hasn't been a failure. Paying 50 billion isk for Marmite's wardecs to do 300 billion isk damage to you guys is in fact an accomplishment and a rather efficient one at that. For every billion he spends, your coalition loses 60 billion. It's simply economics.
The wardecs only effect coalition members that are stupid enough to take Freighters and other expensive ships into high sec on in-Alliance characters. By paying to have them killed he's just supplying some chlorine to the CFC genepool.
No one laughs as hard about the wardec kills as the CFC members themselves and it's a great benefit to us that they make examples out of CFC members who do stupid things. Otherwise that brand of stupidity would flourish. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.09.16 05:44:00 -
[178] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Really? From a Machiavellian perspective the opposite would be true. If his acts were truly irrelevant, you would run the risk of bringing more strength to his cause by underscoring every little even he does
its more like this http://imgur.com/8DDa8y9
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4266
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Posted - 2014.09.16 06:43:00 -
[179] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I think if Goblin was as irrelevant CFC people say he was, they wouldn't be posting so much. Not supporting/detracting from Goblin...just saying. This "They posted therefore he's winning!" thing is so overused and badly thought out it's unreal. Most people, but goons especially, will post a lot on the forums, that's what happens. When the OP is pants on head ********, expect more posts, not less (see dinsdale, harry forever, etc) but it certainly doesn't make the OP relevant, not even remotely.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Really? From a Machiavellian perspective the opposite would be true. If his acts were truly irrelevant, you would run the risk of bringing more strength to his cause by underscoring every little even he does. If he is effective, then you'd try to discredit him, as this thread has seen. Or, if he was changing absolutely nothing while throwing isk away like it was going out of fashion, we'd laugh a lot at it.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:If his numbers are true, which they may or may not be, his crusade hasn't been a failure. Paying 50 billion isk for Marmite's wardecs to do 300 billion isk damage to you guys is in fact an accomplishment and a rather efficient one at that. For every billion he spends, your coalition loses 60 billion. It's simply economics. Which Marmite would have done anyway. Marmite always have and always will wardec the null groups, all big highsec wardeccers have tended to do that for years. And it's always meant precisely zip. Someone else paying for the wardec doesn't make it matter any more. On an alliance level and anyone with 2 braincells to rub together does logistics from NPC alts, so the people getting killed are getting killed through their own stupidity. Some of them will continue to do so, an others will learn. So Gevlon is paying to train our newbies on why highsec isn't safe... Thanks?
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Now does that mean the CFC will be toppled by Goblin? Probably not. Are you guys evil? Maybe some of you but in general I find that most players are fairly similar across the board with some unique tendencies among individuals here and there. Is all of this interesting content and makes Eve a richer experience for all those involved? Defiantly. I don't view the CFC as "evil" but i'm glad he does as his motivation and animosity toward the CFC is content. Gevlon has nothing to do with the content. Marmite would attack us anyway, MoA were always anti-goon (which is why Gevlon picked them) and attacked us anyway. Many people already targeted our ratters. He's paying isk towards what people already did then claiming credit for them having done it. That is not content. If he wanted to generate content, he'd get off his lazy ass and actually play the game. but he can't. The only thing he knows how to do is grind trading which is hardly a skill. It's a challenge to trade and not become unreasonably rich. Most of us just don't feel the need to run around screaming "look at all my moneys" lol. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1359
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Posted - 2014.09.16 06:59:00 -
[180] - Quote
This is the right thread Share the load! TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2014.09.16 07:39:00 -
[181] - Quote
Angelique Duchemin wrote: The wardecs only effect coalition members that are stupid enough to take Freighters and other expensive ships into high sec on in-Alliance characters. By paying to have them killed he's just supplying some chlorine to the CFC genepool.
No one laughs as hard about the wardec kills as the CFC members themselves and it's a great benefit to us that they make examples out of CFC members who do stupid things. Otherwise that brand of stupidity would flourish.
You seem to ignore that dumb people are the #1 resource of CFC. No smart man would waste his playing time watching a bombless bomber shooting a structure for hours so some other guys can earn money from a video game. Nor would a smart man ever camp an NPC station that he can't capture. Without dumb people in the ranks, the CFC couldn't exist.
I understand that you despise them just as much as I do and you honestly laugh when my mercs pop them. But without these dumb people to press F1 when told and do the bombless bomber work, you'd be in lowsec. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3647
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Posted - 2014.09.16 09:01:00 -
[182] - Quote
Wow. This guy really knows his stuff. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4266
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Posted - 2014.09.16 09:15:00 -
[183] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:You seem to ignore that dumb people are the #1 resource of CFC. No smart man would waste his playing time watching a bombless bomber shooting a structure for hours so some other guys can earn money from a video game. Nor would a smart man ever camp an NPC station that he can't capture. Without dumb people in the ranks, the CFC couldn't exist.
I understand that you despise them just as much as I do and you honestly laugh when my mercs pop them. But without these dumb people to press F1 when told and do the bombless bomber work, you'd be in lowsec. Flying a few bomber alts up to a POS, hitting F1 then playing playstation is not effort. And we get paid to do so while risking zero, since any losses are covered. Dreads would take actual concentration - no thanks.
Meanwhile, there's actually a player in EVE, who has spent the last year of his life - not just his EVE playtime, but his actual real life - looking at stats, making graphs and grinding isk, all to pay other players to shoot some players he hates, which they were doing anyway. I know it's hard to believe that such a player exists, but he really does. You should seek him out and explain to him how dumb he is. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2014.09.16 11:25:00 -
[184] - Quote
I'd love it if you would hire pursuit of happiness. They give good fights. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
253
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Posted - 2014.09.16 13:28:00 -
[185] - Quote
I guess if you get your PVP sponsored by Gevlon, you can spend more hours hunting ratters instead of grinding ISK for yourself.
Hell, at least he is throwing his ISK at people instead of the ISK gathering dust in his wallet \o/
Oh and also: threads like this are pretty entertaining. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 14:02:00 -
[186] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote: The wardecs only effect coalition members that are stupid enough to take Freighters and other expensive ships into high sec on in-Alliance characters. By paying to have them killed he's just supplying some chlorine to the CFC genepool.
No one laughs as hard about the wardec kills as the CFC members themselves and it's a great benefit to us that they make examples out of CFC members who do stupid things. Otherwise that brand of stupidity would flourish.
You seem to ignore that dumb people are the #1 resource of CFC. No smart man would waste his playing time watching a bombless bomber shooting a structure for hours so some other guys can earn money from a video game. Nor would a smart man ever camp an NPC station that he can't capture. Without dumb people in the ranks, the CFC couldn't exist. I understand that you despise them just as much as I do and you honestly laugh when my mercs pop them. But without these dumb people to press F1 when told and do the bombless bomber work, you'd be in lowsec. mate if dumb people were our number one resource you'd have already been extended the red carpet and an engraved invitation |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 14:05:00 -
[187] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: If his numbers are true, which they may or may not be, his crusade hasn't been a failure. Paying 50 billion isk for Marmite's wardecs to do 300 billion isk damage to you guys is in fact an accomplishment and a rather efficient one at that. For every billion he spends, your coalition loses 60 billion. It's simply economics.
his numbers are not true and i debunked them pretty soundly in the titan thread
basically, when marmite was wardeccing us about half the time, their isk killed per week was about twice as high (which makes sense: dumb goons would get used to a short period with no wardecs and then start freightering in highsec, then boom)
now that the wardecs are constant, it's about half. and all these numbers are straight from gevlon himself, so he can't deny them
if you work it out he is causing SLIGHTLY more damage than before - but that amount of extra damage is actually less than he's spending |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
852
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Posted - 2014.09.16 15:02:00 -
[188] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:You seem to ignore that dumb people are the #1 resource of CFC. No smart man would waste his playing time watching a bombless bomber shooting a structure for hours so some other guys can earn money from a video game. Nor would a smart man ever camp an NPC station that he can't capture. Without dumb people in the ranks, the CFC couldn't exist.
I understand that you despise them just as much as I do and you honestly laugh when my mercs pop them. But without these dumb people to press F1 when told and do the bombless bomber work, you'd be in lowsec.
We do what we do because it amuses us.
the CFC are a lot of things but it's never boring.
And I've been on 15 hour long siege bomber fleets. I played Starbound in the background while doing it and just had a good time talking to people on coms while doing it.
We are not humans in Eve. We are humans playing Eve together and the interaction with other people is the only thing of value.
Orbiting a tower, launching endless waves of torpedoes doesn't diminish the value of good company any more than playing a boardgame does. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2014.09.16 16:02:00 -
[189] - Quote
Look! Hex Hoob of ANZAC ALLIANCE of Fidelas Constans put a warp disruptor on his ratting ship.
He tried to PvP hahaha. It's not hard to tell what happened with his 8B officer ratting boat. I think Hard Knocks will get a large share of the September Branch bounty.
But it's not over! You can still lot of dumb FCON (and less, but still dumb PBLRD) in Branch to slay for the bounty! My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 16:42:00 -
[190] - Quote
i mean if you wonder why people put in the somewhat boring effort to take things away from people - like siegefleets - just look at this thread
this thread, and the multitude like it, are the products of all of those hours we've invested into breaking other people's toys, and I for one believe the impotent rage has been a fantastic return on our investment. just think, all those siegefleets in fountain that make gevlon froth at the mouth screaming about bombless bombers produced this neverending stream of impotent rage - and it's only one of the many delicious rewards of that war |
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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:30:00 -
[191] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:He tried to PvP hahaha.
That is indeed a terrible lolpost.
By the way, are you from Hard Knocks? Were you on the killmail, or did you share an affiliation with the majority of people on the killmail? No? Do Hard Knocks need the pitiful pocket change you are offering?
(Answer to the questions above is no)
We Goons literally offered sacrificial multi billion ships on our NPSI day for our blues to shoot at. That comes from line members individual wallets. Nobody cares about throwing billions away for laughs and commemorating a fallen comrade. A few billions is not an exceptional amount for a line member of a sov holding null-sec entity.
It has been told to you several times. Money making in EVE, especially to the members of an entity such as CFC is a non-trivial matter. Everybody can make ISK quite easily. Since making money have been your only measurable achievement in your two years of play time, you have a strong bias against understanding how everyone else can easily make money in this game without sweating too much about it.
It seems to me that your problem is vanity. You really want to believe that you are exceptionally skilled and that led you to become one of the wealthiest people in EVE. Having been able to make ISK have been your only claim to being successful in this game. You need that self perception to further spend your time and real life resources in EVE. You need to be able think that you are doing good for yourself in your EVE career.
Unfortunately, you are neither exceptionally skilled or wealthy. None of your projects has affected the politics of EVE. You, as an individual, never had influence over the metagame.
This is why you are getting laughed at and not taken seriously by any entity that matters not just in null-sec, but pretty much in the entirety of EVE. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6181
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Posted - 2014.09.16 19:06:00 -
[192] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Look! Hex Hoob of ANZAC ALLIANCE of Fidelas Constans put a warp disruptor on his ratting ship.
He tried to PvP hahaha. It's not hard to tell what happened with his 8B officer ratting boat. I think Hard Knocks will get a large share of the September Branch bounty.
But it's not over! You can still lot of dumb FCON (and less, but still dumb PBLRD) in Branch to slay for the bounty!
lol
Not at the content of the post. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
403
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Posted - 2014.09.16 19:14:00 -
[193] - Quote
@ andski, benny, Angelique, Lucas,
6 not 60. Obvious typo is obvious.
The over all loss isn't always spread across the entire CFC. For that individual that lost his 5 billion isk whatever, that's still 5 billion that he probably won't see back unless he spends a few neckbeard mouthbreathing hours grinding it back. For some that's ok as for them "grinding in game" is something that they figure as valuable. To others it isn't.
As for Marmite/others ALREADY attacking the CFC, this may be true but funding certainly gives them more time/incentive to hit harder and do it without less breaks to stop, spend time to grind isk back and do it all over again.
People being stupid or not, it's still a time/energy drain to use out of corp alts that may not be blue to the entire coalition and result in unknown blue fire incidents. Those that are "stupid" as you call your own members, still take losses. One individual's loss isn't anymore valuable than the other all things being equal. If he blew up Mitten's Nyx or whatever, we could say that can be used as a propaganda tool, but the majority of the CFC is indiscernible from the next man in line be he "stupid highsec hauler" or not.
@ Retar,
Funding MoA and other groups that frequently hit the CFC in hit and run strikes successfully actually IS a success if his goal is to harm the CFC. I mean the fact that one thread can get 10-20 of you guys all up in arms writing wall-o-text replies to the guy is an accomplishment in and by itself. I think before pronouncing someone else "bad at Machiavellian perspectives" (hilarious mis-use of the term btw) you should simply consider this basic premise:
How much effort is Goblin exerting to motivate how much effort on the CFC side to react?
That is to say if he spends 1 bil to cause 3 bil losses, in an absolute value aspect, he's being successful. Or if he writes up 1 paragraph and that motivates 20 CFC members to each write multiple paragraphs, he's exerting an amount of effort that's motivating a reaction several times the cost of his own.
On the flip side, in terms of ratio effort the matter is another story. 1 billion isk for Goblin is a much large portion of his over all wealth than it would be for the entire CFC. So in effect Goblin could be spending 5 percent of his wealth to destroy only 3 percent of the CFC's wealth. In those terms Goblin is being ineffective.
The problem with that is that the CFC is an entity made up of individuals. So individual losses vs Goblin are still a 1 to 1 ratio (so absolute.) To better explain the point we can refer to the war in Iraq. The insurgent's over all wealth is much much smaller than that of the United States. Yet one little IED can motivate a reaction that costs the US much more in terms of money, manpower and time. One can say that the insurgent attacks are ineffective because the US GDP is so much bigger while the insurgents are much poorer and if you look at organizations alone that is true. But for the individual that was unfortunate enough to be a victim of the IED, that affected him directly as an individual.
Apologies for using that example, it isn't in my interest to equate real life with a game. To return to our world of Eve we can say for that individual that lost his shiny ratting Tengu it mattered. If such things are not addressed, it can motivate internal dispute, disenfranchisement and eventual betrayal. Actually if you click the link in my sig concerning "internal dispute" you can see that I work with such individuals that no longer feel that the group is concerned with their well being and as such look for ways to find a form of resolution.
Empires have looked past their walls and gates and smelly hill tribes and primitive nomads with disregard. What is a stolen sheep here or there? That stolen sheep becomes a burned village. That hill tribe, becomes an army. And one day that army will come over the walls and end the Empire. But what am I telling you for that? You should know. The Goons were that sheep stealing hill tribe once. And BoB ignored those "rifter fliers." It's a common cycle in human history. One group of illiterate tribesmen topples an Empire, takes its place, becomes that Empire, only to be knocked down by another group of illiterate tribesmen.
I certainly like the dynamic of asymmetric warfare be it the Goon's fight against BoB or Goblin's personal crusade against the CFC now and I hold no ideological allegiance beyond my interests in the methods employed to achieve these "David vs Goliath" victories. Understanding that I want to ask CFC members, why do you think Goblin/others have a problem with you? I'm not talking about N3 or other 0.0 rivals, but just average whoevers in Eve living in Empire space.
My theory is that it comes from the way in which GSF members are so willing to be destructive of other's gameplay style and drawing personal enjoyment from another individual's suffering. Don't get me wrong this exists everywhere in Eve, but the GSF is a big alliance where this is encouraged and celebrated. I'm perplexed by the reaction within the GSF which ranges from victimhood complex (It's BoB again!) to some supposed unreasonable hatred for you personally. Scam a few people out of their things, you're going to get people to not like you and when that happens you can't really act surprised or offended. Scam someone, get a reaction you didn't expect....the reason is very "they hate our freedum"-esque.
But I digress I'm honestly curious for your honest opinions more as a social experiment than anything else. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11248
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Posted - 2014.09.16 19:22:00 -
[194] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:@ andski, benny, Angelique, Lucas,
6 not 60. Obvious typo is obvious.
The over all loss isn't always spread across the entire CFC. For that individual that lost his 5 billion isk whatever, that's still 5 billion that he probably won't see back unless he spends a few neckbeard mouthbreathing hours grinding it back. For some that's ok as for them "grinding in game" is something that they figure as valuable. To others it isn't.
As for Marmite/others ALREADY attacking the CFC, this may be true but funding certainly gives them more time/incentive to hit harder and do it without less breaks to stop, spend time to grind isk back and do it all over again.
People being stupid or not, it's still a time/energy drain to use out of corp alts that may not be blue to the entire coalition and result in unknown blue fire incidents. Those that are "stupid" as you call your own members, still take losses. One individual's loss isn't anymore valuable than the other all things being equal. If he blew up Mitten's Nyx or whatever, we could say that can be used as a propaganda tool, but the majority of the CFC is indiscernible from the next man in line be he "stupid highsec hauler" or not.
you understand why marmite et al do these wardecs, right
they're not trying to effect their will on 0.0 bloc politics and those who think they are would usually be clueless en24 editors
i'll give you a hint: these groups don't need to grind a penny to fund their wardecs, their wardecs fund themselves Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:11:00 -
[195] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Funding MoA and other groups that frequently hit the CFC in hit and run strikes successfully actually IS a success if his goal is to harm the CFC. I mean the fact that one thread can get 10-20 of you guys all up in arms writing wall-o-text replies to the guy is an accomplishment in and by itself. I think before pronouncing someone else "bad at Machiavellian perspectives" (hilarious mis-use of the term btw) you should simply consider this basic premise:
"we must be successful because the goons are mocking us" is the last desperate rationalization of the hilariously incompetent
we luv2post and a thread that contains someone who hates us faceplanting over and over again is the best place to post of all
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Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
179
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:22:00 -
[196] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0 |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:34:00 -
[197] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: But I digress I'm honestly curious for your honest opinions more as a social experiment than anything else.
the most fun part of being a goon is the power: we can dictate to other people what they will do and as much as they rage about it they can't do squat when we say something will be this way
gevlon is great because he demonstrates just how powerful we are: he puts so, so, so much effort into trying to attack us and is laughably irrelevant. and I'm quite serious, he's laughably irrelevant: nothing he's ever done has been even vaugely a threat to gsf or even an inconvinence. and i'd know, i'm a gsf director
everything we say about how what he does doesn't matter is true. killing a ratter here or there doesn't really matter much. killing idiots who flew a freighter in highsec doesn't matter because ever since i joined (back when we lived in scalding pass) the operating assumption has been we're always wardecced, if you want a highsec freighter use an npc alt
eve is a harsh game and an idiot flying a gsf freighter in highsec is going to get a harsh awakening with or without gevlon. as i demonstrated mathmatically before, gevlon is actually mostly counter-productive: before gevlon we actually kept occasionally having weeks with no wardecs, so people could freighter in highsec and then get slammed once marmite redecced us. with a perma-dec, people never really start making that mistake and we're just back to how we were pre-warcost changes (it used to cost the same to wardec GSF as any other alliance, so everyone wardecced us because you got the most bang for your buck). somehow, we survived.
people trying to kill our ratters? deklein is the most heavily ratted region in null, by far (it's not even close). people try all the time, but get bored because under current null mechanics hunting ratters just is not terribly fun or likely to succeed. you don't do it for profit, so his bounty is just going to be money wasted
at the end of the day what makes gevlon so hilarious is that he desperately wants to be powerful, but because he's a randian sperglord his ideology demands he do it as a captain of industry, working heroically alone spending money to try to win. thing is, in eve money just isn't all that useful: it helps make a lot of stuff easier but power in eve is the number of people you can get working together. this is something that we've said many times before and normal people fairly intuitively understand...but gevlon doesn't. he'll never threaten us because there's just nothing you can do with a few tens of billions a month and a personality so caustic you can't ever cooperate with anyone without them deciding they'd rather shoot you or themselves in the head than listen to another minute of your idiotic ideas. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
403
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:35:00 -
[198] - Quote
Andski wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:@ andski, benny, Angelique, Lucas,
6 not 60. Obvious typo is obvious.
The over all loss isn't always spread across the entire CFC. For that individual that lost his 5 billion isk whatever, that's still 5 billion that he probably won't see back unless he spends a few neckbeard mouthbreathing hours grinding it back. For some that's ok as for them "grinding in game" is something that they figure as valuable. To others it isn't.
As for Marmite/others ALREADY attacking the CFC, this may be true but funding certainly gives them more time/incentive to hit harder and do it without less breaks to stop, spend time to grind isk back and do it all over again.
People being stupid or not, it's still a time/energy drain to use out of corp alts that may not be blue to the entire coalition and result in unknown blue fire incidents. Those that are "stupid" as you call your own members, still take losses. One individual's loss isn't anymore valuable than the other all things being equal. If he blew up Mitten's Nyx or whatever, we could say that can be used as a propaganda tool, but the majority of the CFC is indiscernible from the next man in line be he "stupid highsec hauler" or not. you understand why marmite et al do these wardecs, right they're not trying to effect their will on 0.0 bloc politics and those who think they are would usually be clueless en24 editors i'll give you a hint: these groups don't need to grind a penny to fund their wardecs, their wardecs fund themselves
Speaking of clueless...I was speaking about MoA. Also I'm not an editor, more of an independent contributor. Thanks for playing. Maybe next time.
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Funding MoA and other groups that frequently hit the CFC in hit and run strikes successfully actually IS a success if his goal is to harm the CFC. I mean the fact that one thread can get 10-20 of you guys all up in arms writing wall-o-text replies to the guy is an accomplishment in and by itself. I think before pronouncing someone else "bad at Machiavellian perspectives" (hilarious mis-use of the term btw) you should simply consider this basic premise:
"we must be successful because the goons are mocking us" is the last desperate rationalization of the hilariously incompetent we luv2post and a thread that contains someone who hates us faceplanting over and over again is the best place to post of all
"we must be successful because bob is mocking us" was a rationalization Goons came up with as well in the past btw. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:40:00 -
[199] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: "we must be successful because bob is mocking us" was a rationalization Goons came up with as well in the past btw.
we were successful because we ripped bob to shreds, stole their name, stole their home, conquered every region they ever owned, and **** up their 'legacy' so badly that nobody really remembers them except as either faceless jackasses or faceless incompetents
*cracks knuckles, leans back* |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:42:00 -
[200] - Quote
the legacy of bob: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcM7iCBN6T4 |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
403
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:48:00 -
[201] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote: But I digress I'm honestly curious for your honest opinions more as a social experiment than anything else.
the most fun part of being a goon is the power: we can dictate to other people what they will do and as much as they rage about it they can't do squat when we say something will be this way gevlon is great because he demonstrates just how powerful we are: he puts so, so, so much effort into trying to attack us and is laughably irrelevant. and I'm quite serious, he's laughably irrelevant: nothing he's ever done has been even vaugely a threat to gsf or even an inconvinence. and i'd know, i'm a gsf director everything we say about how what he does doesn't matter is true. killing a ratter here or there doesn't really matter much. killing idiots who flew a freighter in highsec doesn't matter because ever since i joined (back when we lived in scalding pass) the operating assumption has been we're always wardecced, if you want a highsec freighter use an npc alt eve is a harsh game and an idiot flying a gsf freighter in highsec is going to get a harsh awakening with or without gevlon. as i demonstrated mathmatically before, gevlon is actually mostly counter-productive: before gevlon we actually kept occasionally having weeks with no wardecs, so people could freighter in highsec and then get slammed once marmite redecced us. with a perma-dec, people never really start making that mistake and we're just back to how we were pre-warcost changes (it used to cost the same to wardec GSF as any other alliance, so everyone wardecced us because you got the most bang for your buck). somehow, we survived. people trying to kill our ratters? deklein is the most heavily ratted region in null, by far (it's not even close). people try all the time, but get bored because under current null mechanics hunting ratters just is not terribly fun or likely to succeed. you don't do it for profit, so his bounty is just going to be money wasted at the end of the day what makes gevlon so hilarious is that he desperately wants to be powerful, but because he's a randian sperglord his ideology demands he do it as a captain of industry, working heroically alone spending money to try to win. thing is, in eve money just isn't all that useful: it helps make a lot of stuff easier but power in eve is the number of people you can get working together. this is something that we've said many times before and normal people fairly intuitively understand...but gevlon doesn't. he'll never threaten us because there's just nothing you can do with a few tens of billions a month and a personality so caustic you can't ever cooperate with anyone without them deciding they'd rather shoot you or themselves in the head than listen to another minute of your idiotic ideas.
"The most fun thing about being a goon is the power."
Hmm that's very telling. I'd expect something more along the lines that it's fun to be a goon because of the laid back and playful environment. Or the ability to interact with a variety of people from all walks of life. Or the fun is flying in big fleets or flying a variety of doctrines. But you as an individual state that the most fun thing is power. Not sure if that's the most psychologically healthy thing. A need to tell others what to do is hardly a mentally healthy thing no offense. You realize concepts like that actually give more weight to Goblin's argument right? Fun for you is telling others what to do. That suggests some form of abuse of power which is often if not always considered to be "evil."
But who do you have power against? Who can you tell what to do? You personally? Probably just the run of the mil line grunts in the GSF. As a whole alliance, you can tell your other coalition members what to do as their role/position is secondary at best.
Who does that leave? Nobody relevant in lowsec or high sec. Certainly no one in w-space. Who else in 0.0? N3? Certainly not if the last war is anything to go by. The Russians? Even less likely (somehow). HERO coalition? Provibloc? Maybe before the war ended. So who can you dictate orders to?
What makes Goblin's ideology so terrible compared to yours? How is your ideology better than his? Can you answer that? I'm curious Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
403
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:51:00 -
[202] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote: "we must be successful because bob is mocking us" was a rationalization Goons came up with as well in the past btw.
we were successful because we ripped bob to shreds, stole their name, stole their home, conquered every region they ever owned, and **** up their 'legacy' so badly that nobody really remembers them except as either faceless jackasses or faceless incompetents *cracks knuckles, leans back*
Since Mitten's so often links BoB with whatever enemy the GSF is fighting, in the past few years this means NCdot, we could say that you haven't really done any of that. BoB's remnants are in NCdot and NCdot currently dwarfs the CFC in terms of systems held and income. This of course if you agree with your own coalition leader that equates NCdot with BoB. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:59:00 -
[203] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: "The most fun thing about being a goon is the power."
Hmm that's very telling. I'd expect something more along the lines that it's fun to be a goon because of the laid back and playful environment. Or the ability to interact with a variety of people from all walks of life. Or the fun is flying in big fleets or flying a variety of doctrines. But you as an individual state that the most fun thing is power. Not sure if that's the most psychologically healthy thing. A need to tell others what to do is hardly a mentally healthy thing no offense. You realize concepts like that actually give more weight to Goblin's argument right? Fun for you is telling others what to do. That suggests some form of abuse of power which is often if not always considered to be "evil."
But who do you have power against? Who can you tell what to do? You personally? Probably just the run of the mil line grunts in the GSF. As a whole alliance, you can tell your other coalition members what to do as their role/position is secondary at best.
Who does that leave? Nobody relevant in lowsec or high sec. Certainly no one in w-space. Who else in 0.0? N3? Certainly not if the last war is anything to go by. The Russians? Even less likely (somehow). HERO coalition? Provibloc? Maybe before the war ended. So who can you dictate orders to?
What makes Goblin's ideology so terrible compared to yours? How is your ideology better than his? Can you answer that? I'm curious
oh dear the guy who writes for en24 is concerned about my mental health and feels i might be evil
it's you, the worthless highsec shitlord, that we can force around, or whoever lives somewhere that we have decided shall be vacated.
you'll scream, whine, and claim that you're independent and then take the only choice we've given you
your last question assumes that we place value on your opinion, which we don't (except that it's fun to make you hate us). you don't have any useful thoughts to offer: the extent we care about your opinion is only to delight in when you're impotently mad at us and calling us ~evil~ and trying to pretend that you are some authority whose opinions matter.
at the end of the day the ideology that matters is power. gevlon has, in a rare moment of honesty and self-reflection, admitted that what he hates is not our ideology, it's that we won't let him in. as we are the kings of the hill and spit on him, this causes him to need to either destroy us or become part of us to satisfy his desperate need to be number one. unfortunately for him he is an object of ridicule and he will never succeed. someday, naturally, goonswarm will fall - but it won't be from gevlon (though I have no doubt that even if he quit five years before he will be back to take credit) and nobody will ever think of gevlon as some success instead of a hilarious failure
we, on the other hand: you may hate us, you may desperately try to convince yourself you don't want to be us, you can do whatever you want...but you can't pretend to ignore us
that is what owns, that me and my thirty thousand bestest friends fought our way to the top of the heap and we're going to sit here lording it over you and delighting in every rationalization you come up with about how we're not |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Since Mitten's so often links BoB with whatever enemy the GSF is fighting, in the past few years this means NCdot, we could say that you haven't really done any of that. BoB's remnants are in NCdot and NCdot currently dwarfs the CFC in terms of systems held and income. This of course if you agree with your own coalition leader that equates NCdot with BoB.
this is a gevlon-esque attempt at propaganda
even for en24 this is bad |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
403
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:23:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:-snip-
The guy who writes for EN24 is pointing out that your reasoning should be a concern to you aside from Eve. If "power" is a reason someone plays Eve, that may be indicative that they lead a life where they feel powerless and in order to address that, they play this game giving themselves some illusion at power. But I'm not saying this to attack anyone, it's simply psychology. Egomania is a real thing.
Compare two scenarios. Someone uses a cloaky T3 and ambushes a mining ship on a belt. Person A delights in their ability to fit their ship well, their timing, and the strategic objective completed against a rival alliance. Person B delights in his victim's torment, spoken or other wise. They revel in the emotional anguish that the individual feels.
Which one do you think leads a more stable mentally healthy life?
As for who you dictate to. Well first off I live in lowsec. So I'm not a "highsec pubbie shitlord." I'm a lowsec one ;) Secondly you don't really tell anyone what to do and thinking you do is laughably delusional.
I also don't hate you or the GSF. So you're over compensating with your defensive attitude. I'm not attacking you, I'm simply asking you a few questions which you're free to answer or free to ignore.
You've established you have a high opinion of yourself on this video game on the internet. Don't let me stand in the way of that. But why do you want to stand in the way of someone else's sense of self importance such as Goblin?
There was no propaganda attempt. Mittens stated that NCdot more or less = BoB. If BoB is destroyed BoB cannot also own most of the systems in 0.0. So I asked a simple question, which is it? Is BoB destroyed or is BoB NCdot? Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
767
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:33:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:-snip- The guy who writes for EN24 is pointing out that your reasoning should be a concern to you aside from Eve.
like anyone else who has ever read en24, i can think of few things that should be less concerning than an en24 writers ideas on proper reasoning
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
As for who you dictate to. Well first off I live in lowsec. So I'm not a "highsec pubbie shitlord." I'm a lowsec one ;) Secondly you don't really tell anyone what to do and thinking you do is laughably delusional.
I also don't hate you or the GSF. So you're over compensating with your defensive attitude. I'm not attacking you, I'm simply asking you a few questions which you're free to answer or free to ignore.
You've established you have a high opinion of yourself on this video game on the internet. Don't let me stand in the way of that. But why do you want to stand in the way of someone else's sense of self importance such as Goblin?
There was no propaganda attempt. Mittens stated that NCdot more or less = BoB. If BoB is destroyed BoB cannot also own most of the systems in 0.0. So I asked a simple question, which is it? Is BoB destroyed or is BoB NCdot?
these delusions, right here, are what are so great
yes, keep loudly trying to convince yourself of all of this |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
403
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:39:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:like anyone else who has ever read en24, i can think of few things that should be less concerning than an en24 writers ideas on proper reasoning
So you're deflecting the question rather than answering because it's uncomfortable and the method you are using is "because of EN24." Weak character on your part my friend.
Retar Aveymone wrote:these delusions, right here, are what are so great
yes, keep loudly trying to convince yourself of all of this
Ok well make me do something then. Go on. Then we'll see who is delusional. Go on.
Edit: Also is BoB NCdot or are they destroyed? Can you answer that? Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4267
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:41:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:The over all loss isn't always spread across the entire CFC. For that individual that lost his 5 billion isk whatever, that's still 5 billion that he probably won't see back unless he spends a few neckbeard mouthbreathing hours grinding it back. For some that's ok as for them "grinding in game" is something that they figure as valuable. To others it isn't. And if making isk was troublesome that might be a problem. You don't really need to grind for 5b. And considering most of the CFC make isk when they lose a PvP ship, they can in fact go on ops and make isk doing it. I don't think I've ever seen anyone sweating even the most stupid of losses in the CFC. To be honest, game wide isk is far too easy to accrue.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:As for Marmite/others ALREADY attacking the CFC, this may be true but funding certainly gives them more time/incentive to hit harder and do it without less breaks to stop, spend time to grind isk back and do it all over again.
People being stupid or not, it's still a time/energy drain to use out of corp alts that may not be blue to the entire coalition and result in unknown blue fire incidents. Those that are "stupid" as you call your own members, still take losses. One individual's loss isn't anymore valuable than the other all things being equal. If he blew up Mitten's Nyx or whatever, we could say that can be used as a propaganda tool, but the majority of the CFC is indiscernible from the next man in line be he "stupid highsec hauler" or not. Do you understand what level of dumb you have to be to lose significant value in high sec as a null player? Pressing F1 would be difficult for these people, so who really cares if they lose some stuff? That's ALWAYS been the case, not just in the CFC, but in every null group I've ever been in. Gevlon paying for some decs doesn't change that and in fact helps us reinforce that rule.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Apologies for using that example, it isn't in my interest to equate real life with a game. To return to our world of Eve we can say for that individual that lost his shiny ratting Tengu it mattered. If such things are not addressed, it can motivate internal dispute, disenfranchisement and eventual betrayal. Actually if you click the link in my sig concerning "internal dispute" you can see that I work with such individuals that no longer feel that the group is concerned with their well being and as such look for ways to find a form of resolution. Well apparently it is your intent. A Tengu is nothing, it's stuff. Even if it's all your stuff, it;s still just stuff. It can be re-obtained, lessons can be learned. If someone does struggle with a loss, normally there's someone willing to help out. Comparing that to a life being lost, an irreversible loss, there's no comparison.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Empires have looked past their walls and gates and smelly hill tribes and primitive nomads with disregard. What is a stolen sheep here or there? That stolen sheep becomes a burned village. That hill tribe, becomes an army. And one day that army will come over the walls and end the Empire. But what am I telling you for that? You should know. The Goons were that sheep stealing hill tribe once. And BoB ignored those "rifter fliers." It's a common cycle in human history. One group of illiterate tribesmen topples an Empire, takes its place, becomes that Empire, only to be knocked down by another group of illiterate tribesmen. Those "rifter fliers" had strong leadership and unified direction. Not the case here. Gevlon is utterly unwilling to step up to leadership, and while most of the groups attacking have "kill goons" as a game plan, their reasons for doing so are different. MoA is about having fun for example. Stepping in line with someone else doesn't really fit their gameplan hence the problems in that little coalition they are now a part of (which I've forgotten the name of and can't be bothered to look up, quite telling) which is already crumbling. Someone far more competent than Gevlon will need to step in to get anything like that done, and his pocket change will need to be bolstered considerably.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Understanding that I want to ask CFC members, why do you think Goblin/others have a problem with you? I'm not talking about N3 or other 0.0 rivals, but just average whoever's in Eve living in Empire space. Most people don't know why. Early on certainly the goons pushed for people to hate them specifically, and a lot of it has probably continued from there. I think the vast majority of layers wouldn't be able to properly explain their hate because they don't know themselves. For Gevlon it's because he wasn't allowed in, and he's bitter about it. So bitter in fact hat he's wasting his actual life on an ingame crusade which is pretty sad.
It's funny to me that you talk about GSF scamming people and disrupting their gameplay and celebrating it, while new order exist. I'd wager more people hate them, there's just no proper centralised body to aim their hate at, unlike goons. And I don't think anyone in the CFC is surprised or offended. The game would be pretty boring if everyone just left us alone. We'd have to go out of our way to make people fight us. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
767
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:48:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote: So you're deflecting the question rather than answering because it's uncomfortable and the method you are using is "because of EN24." Weak character on your part my friend.
my friend you appear to be under the misapprehension we are equals here
i answer your questions or not as it amuses me, if we were concerned about what random powerless idiots on eveo thought we'd all have been diagnosed with a variety of mental illnesses years ago and if anyone was ever concerned with attempts at pubbies to create logical traps based on third-hand information they misheard, misunderstood, and then misapplied they'd have gone cross-eyed long ago |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4267
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:48:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:So you're deflecting the question rather than answering because it's uncomfortable and the method you are using is "because of EN24." Weak character on your part my friend. I imagine it's more to to with "le forum psychology" being one of the most ******** things to do. You're rolling out loaded questions to try to get a specific response so you can go "HA!" all over you trying to discern someone's personality over the internet. I'll give you a little hint: Nobody will ever care about your opinions on their personality over the internet, regardless of which psychology night class you took. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2115
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Posted - 2014.09.16 23:23:00 -
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Quote: Circle-Of-Two Declares War Against Mordus Angels From: CONCORD Sent: 2014.09.14 05:12
Circle-Of-Two has declared war on Mordus Angels. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. If war is due to a corporation at war joining an alliance, then the war starts immediately instead.
Guess we're doing something right. <3 |
Savnire Jacitu
Abysmal Gentlemen
300
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GEVLON WHEEL, GEVLON DEAL <corrupt> |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
404
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Posted - 2014.09.17 02:50:00 -
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1. Not everyone in the CFC is a multi billionaire Let's just stop pretending right there.
2. Sure but that "dumb player" would have brought X resources to your coalition. Not over all it may not be a large amount but it's still an amount.
3. Haha nice try with the moral finger wagging. Please don't insult everyone's intelligence.
4. I know a bit more about those rifter fliers than you could imagine.
5. I agree in part that many people don't know why they hate the Goons. I've told this story before but it merits repeating. A few years back I was part of Venga Inc, the patron corp of the NPSI community known as bombers bar. I had managed to secure us a small contracted in Querious which at the time housed Li3 Federation. This was back in the hayday of TEST Alliance and the "HBC." The contract simply had us harass their little pocket in bombers and recons to knock down their index and kill whatever we could. One day we managed to find a Tengu ratting on a gate of all things. Unfortunately we had no way to pin down the Tengu with the bombers and falcon we had. It could simply crash gate quickly and warp away.
Luckily one of my scouts spotted a small gang of "Delve Goons" (goons which basically never moved to Dek and decided to stay in Delve.) Among their gang they had a Daredevil which I thought would make this kill happen due to its web bonus. So I private convo their DD and we get in a quick chat and let them know what is going on. They ask if we want to merge fleet. I of course say no figuring they'd just blow us up too. But surprisingly they showed up, we pinned the Tengu down and got a really nice kill. I told my gang to keep it's distance figuring the guns would be turned on us the moment the Tengu went down. Instead they asked us if we wanted half the loot. I said no figuring it would be a last attempt to kill one or all of us. I was further pleasantly surprised when my wallet blinked with half the loot value in isk which I divided with my gang. That was that and they were on their way.
So that was one of my first personal interactions with Goons on this character and it's still memorable to me. People vary from that quality character to people who get their thrills by "getting to tell others what to do"...at least in their imagination.
Retar Aveymone wrote:my friend you appear to be under the misapprehension we are equals here
Quite on the most severe contrary I'm afraid.
Retar Aveymone wrote:i answer your questions or not as it amuses me, if we were concerned about what random powerless idiots on eveo thought we'd all have been diagnosed with a variety of mental illnesses years ago and if anyone was ever concerned with attempts at pubbies to create logical traps based on third-hand information they misheard, misunderstood, and then misapplied they'd have gone cross-eyed long ago
I'm not asking you to care. It's a simple question. Mittens stated that NCdot is all ex-BoB on TMC. You claim BoB was actually destroyed and annihilated. How do you reconcile these differences? Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
855
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Posted - 2014.09.17 05:36:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:That is to say if he spends 1 bil to cause 3 bil losses, in an absolute value aspect, he's being successful. Or if he writes up 1 paragraph and that motivates 20 CFC members to each write multiple paragraphs, he's exerting an amount of effort that's motivating a reaction several times the cost of his own.
Except it's not about ratio. It's about relevant magnitude.
The total isk value of all the isk, ships, materials and equipment in the entire CFC versus the damage he supposedly does.
Gevlon spending 10 billion to do 30 billion worth of damage to the CFC is about as effective at hurting the CFC as me spending 10 million isk to do 30 million worth of damage to Gevlon.
And the bragging rights are about the same too.
On a nullsec block level. The entire worth of Gevlon is chump change. We spend more isk on fuel just to stare down enemy fleets over tower timers than he has ever owned in his entire Eve career.
If Nullsec is the Iraq war then Gevlon is standing on the sidelines, putting a hundred dollars into the "Iraqi Surface-to-air missile fund" while believing his contribution is relevant.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
823
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Posted - 2014.09.17 05:47:00 -
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I want 20 billion for having to see you post the same thread under new names because the others got locked. Time to face facts, you can't get rid of goons by just throwing money at it. |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
106
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:41:00 -
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Quote:at the end of the day the ideology that matters is power. gevlon has, in a rare moment of honesty and self-reflection, admitted that what he hates is not our ideology, it's that we won't let him in. as we are the kings of the hill and spit on him, this causes him to need to either destroy us or become part of us to satisfy his desperate need to be number one. unfortunately for him he is an object of ridicule and he will never succeed. someday, naturally, goonswarm will fall - but it won't be from gevlon (though I have no doubt that even if he quit five years before he will be back to take credit) and nobody will ever think of gevlon as some success instead of a hilarious failure
we, on the other hand: you may hate us, you may desperately try to convince yourself you don't want to be us, you can do whatever you want...but you can't pretend to ignore us
Retar, do you have a high rank within the Goons that merits you to speak on their behalf or are you merely one of their insignificant drones that feels mighty because he is a speck amongst a blob of 30k pilots?
You certainly use "we" a lot...not a good way to define an individual. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4269
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:50:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:1. Not everyone in the CFC is a multi billionaire Let's just stop pretending right there. 2. Sure but that "dumb player" would have brought X resources to your coalition. Not over all it may not be a large amount but it's still an amount. 3. Haha nice try with the moral finger wagging. Please don't insult everyone's intelligence. 4. I know a bit more about those rifter fliers than you could imagine. 5. *Epic tale of boredom* 1. Honestly, I'm surprised that everyone in the game isn't a multi billionaire. You can get there in a day. I get it, you think losses matter. It's quite funny.
2. I don't deny that but it would be so little and so insignificant that nobody cares. If you're getting killed in highsec and not learning, chances are you aren't contribution to coalition level things, and are just burden on those that are.
3. No finger wrapping at all. You were comparing losing a tengu to someone dying. It's not the same. If you don't get that maybe you need to take a hard look at how seriously you take this game.
4. Don't worry about sharing, I don't care. And it doesn't change the facts.
5. Good for you buddy.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I'm not asking you to care. It's a simple question. Mittens stated that NCdot is all ex-BoB on TMC. You claim BoB was actually destroyed and annihilated. How do you reconcile these differences? BoB is dead, some payers that used to be in bob are in NC (a lot moving over when 401k kicked the bucket) and still holding grudges. So yes, BoB was annihilated. Because it's a game though, players can keep on player (your realise when you annihilate an alliance you don;t turn up at their house and murder them, right? Not sure how seriously you are taking all this). The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
404
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Posted - 2014.09.17 07:57:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:That is to say if he spends 1 bil to cause 3 bil losses, in an absolute value aspect, he's being successful. Or if he writes up 1 paragraph and that motivates 20 CFC members to each write multiple paragraphs, he's exerting an amount of effort that's motivating a reaction several times the cost of his own. Except it's not about ratio. It's about relevant magnitude. The total isk value of all the isk, ships, materials and equipment in the entire CFC versus the damage he supposedly does. Gevlon spending 10 billion to do 30 billion worth of damage to the CFC is about as effective at hurting the CFC as me spending 10 million isk to do 30 million worth of damage to Gevlon. And the bragging rights are about the same too. On a nullsec block level. The entire worth of Gevlon is chump change. We spend more isk on fuel just to stare down enemy fleets over tower timers than he has ever owned in his entire Eve career. If Nullsec is the Iraq war then Gevlon is standing on the sidelines, putting a hundred dollars into the "Iraqi Surface-to-air missile fund" while believing his contribution is relevant.
I didn't disagree with that. I actually offered both perspectives.
Lucas Kell wrote:-buttmad intensifies-
1. From the sounds of it it seems like you personify the CFC version of Goblin.
2. An interesting assumption I suppose.
3. I was pointing out, to those not so dense, the relevancy from an organization point of view vs the individual. Nice try.
4. That's fine.
5. I knew you'd be interested.
Clearly I think that when you win against someone in Eve, you get to go to their house and murder them. You've delved in into the seventh circle of idiot and I see no stopping in the future.
"A broken shard laughs at a cracked pot" pretty much sums up this thread. You decide which incompetent entity you are amongst yourselves. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6182
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Posted - 2014.09.17 09:42:00 -
[219] - Quote
They never get old. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4269
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Posted - 2014.09.17 09:47:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:1. From the sounds of it it seems like you personify the CFC version of Goblin. 2. An interesting assumption I suppose. 3. I was pointing out, to those not so dense, the relevancy from an organization point of view vs the individual. Nice try. 4. That's fine. 5. I knew you'd be interested. Clearly I think that when you win against someone in Eve, you get to go to their house and murder them. You've delved in into the seventh circle of idiot and I see no stopping in the future. "A broken shard laughs at a cracked pot" pretty much sums up this thread. You decide which incompetent entity you are amongst yourselves. Lol. I get it. Internet spaceships is super serious for you. It's not for us, it's just a game we play for entertainment, and nothing more. So an autistic player devoting their life to our destruction is irrelevant. It will not change the fact that we have fun playing EVE, no matter how many trillions he racks up, and no matter how much you try to compare it to people being killed at war. By the way I get the point you were trying to make (and disagree entirely), but your comparison was highly flawed. You knew this as well, you were simply trying to pick a subject shocking enough for people not to argue against it.
I get it though, you want to attack me, call me buttmad and all that. Proceed if you wish. Get it out of your system. Understand that it's entertainment, and you'll never succeed in upsetting me even remotely. If that's what you need to do though to feel good about yourself, go right ahead. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
253
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:02:00 -
[221] - Quote
Can I get a TL;DR of the funniest stuff in here? You-¦re all writing wall of text after wall of text... |
Gericht
Lost Society Get Off My Lawn
1
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:34:00 -
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Not everyone in the CFC is a multibillionaire.
Truer words were never spoken. I am one of those poor, sad non mulitbillionair CFC players.
So lets see how this campaign would affect me (though I live in Delve, we just had a similar situation before all our non-cfc friends left) My current total liquid ISK is about 7 B In assets I have about 5B worth of ships, most of which are doctrine vessels scattered about CFC space gathering dust. Due to a the horrible affliction of RL and a steady job I do not need to PLEX, but also do not have all that much time.
I spend my mornings during breakfast running my (bad) PI setup earning about 25-30M a day. When I log in I check if there is anything fun going on, and if not I tend to rat a single anom before just going off to do something else.
Now lets say GG's campaign takes off and a cloacky camper appears in EACH CFC system AND they have a permanent fleet ready to be bridged in bridge range of every CFC system, with the cloacky campers being active 23/7 so any ratting vessel gets dropped on. This will prevent me from gettting ISK trough ratting, though it does nothing to my PI income, as I've never seen a cloacky camper attack an unfitted 1M worth transport without any real loot.
That would mean that the roaming gangs (active at the same time as the standby hotdrop fleets) sponsored by GG would have to cost me about 30M losses daily on average to start hitting my wallet. Since I do small gang PVP in cheap ships and generally in groups I doubt that will happen. But suppose they are horribly effective and I play in expensive ships and I lose 100M monthly. That means that with my current truly sad wallet, I'd be able to take that loss for just under six years before I cannot afford more ships. This of course assumes no SRP at all. And in those six years I'd have a guarantueed PvP experience every single time I logged on.
I don't really see a downside here. When will the Delve version begin? |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
775
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:49:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote: I'm not asking you to care. It's a simple question. Mittens stated that NCdot is all ex-BoB on TMC. You claim BoB was actually destroyed and annihilated. How do you reconcile these differences?
i am bored today so it will amuse me to answer this question, once you actually do the work as i don't feel like bothering to find the articles that don't actually say what you think they say
link whatever you think has created this astounding logical trap that impacts our hilariously complete destruction of BoB and carefully make your argument and i will tear it to shreads on a coffee break |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
775
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:53:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote: Retar, do you have a high rank within the Goons that merits you to speak on their behalf or are you merely one of their insignificant drones that feels mighty because he is a speck amongst a blob of 30k pilots?
You certainly use "we" a lot...not a good way to define an individual.
did you just ask me if i was very important in my internet spaceship massively multiplayer online game guild
i mean, i am, but seriously
any one of my thirty thousand best friends is an important member of our mighty space empire that rests on your pitiful backs like the largest sedan chair in the world whipping you to carry us faster. as gevlon repeatedly rages about, merely being one of us makes you one of eve's ruling class, apart and above from the hoi polli of eve such as highsec miners, en24 writers, and gevlon |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
855
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Charax Bouclier wrote:Quote:at the end of the day the ideology that matters is power. gevlon has, in a rare moment of honesty and self-reflection, admitted that what he hates is not our ideology, it's that we won't let him in. as we are the kings of the hill and spit on him, this causes him to need to either destroy us or become part of us to satisfy his desperate need to be number one. unfortunately for him he is an object of ridicule and he will never succeed. someday, naturally, goonswarm will fall - but it won't be from gevlon (though I have no doubt that even if he quit five years before he will be back to take credit) and nobody will ever think of gevlon as some success instead of a hilarious failure
we, on the other hand: you may hate us, you may desperately try to convince yourself you don't want to be us, you can do whatever you want...but you can't pretend to ignore us Retar, do you have a high rank within the Goons that merits you to speak on their behalf or are you merely one of their insignificant drones that feels mighty because he is a speck amongst a blob of 30k pilots? You certainly use "we" a lot...not a good way to define an individual.
Rank? There are no ranks in the Goons. There's just citizens and the people tending to them.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
406
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:23:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:1. From the sounds of it it seems like you personify the CFC version of Goblin. 2. An interesting assumption I suppose. 3. I was pointing out, to those not so dense, the relevancy from an organization point of view vs the individual. Nice try. 4. That's fine. 5. I knew you'd be interested. Clearly I think that when you win against someone in Eve, you get to go to their house and murder them. You've delved in into the seventh circle of idiot and I see no stopping in the future. "A broken shard laughs at a cracked pot" pretty much sums up this thread. You decide which incompetent entity you are amongst yourselves. Lol. I get it. Internet spaceships is super serious for you. It's not for us, it's just a game we play for entertainment, and nothing more. So an autistic player devoting their life to our destruction is irrelevant. It will not change the fact that we have fun playing EVE, no matter how many trillions he racks up, and no matter how much you try to compare it to people being killed at war. By the way I get the point you were trying to make (and disagree entirely), but your comparison was highly flawed. You knew this as well, you were simply trying to pick a subject shocking enough for people not to argue against it. I get it though, you want to attack me, call me buttmad and all that. Proceed if you wish. Get it out of your system. Understand that it's entertainment, and you'll never succeed in upsetting me even remotely. If that's what you need to do though to feel good about yourself, go right ahead.
Lucas I've seen you post titanic length threadnaught posts everywhere you go. Mad about marmite, mad about Goblin, and when someone disagrees with you you just go to personal attacks. And then you fall back to "lol you take the game more seriously than I win. Ahaha-ahaha-ahaha I win!"
I can't help but imagine this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1hmDYnbasI
Gericht wrote:Not everyone in the CFC is a multibillionaire.
Truer words were never spoken. I am one of those poor, sad non mulitbillionair CFC players.
So lets see how this campaign would affect me (though I live in Delve, we just had a similar situation before all our non-cfc friends left) My current total liquid ISK is about 7 B In assets I have about 5B worth of ships, most of which are doctrine vessels scattered about CFC space gathering dust. Due to a the horrible affliction of RL and a steady job I do not need to PLEX, but also do not have all that much time.
I spend my mornings during breakfast running my (bad) PI setup earning about 25-30M a day. When I log in I check if there is anything fun going on, and if not I tend to rat a single anom before just going off to do something else.
Now lets say GG's campaign takes off and a cloacky camper appears in EACH CFC system AND they have a permanent fleet ready to be bridged in bridge range of every CFC system, with the cloacky campers being active 23/7 so any ratting vessel gets dropped on. This will prevent me from gettting ISK trough ratting, though it does nothing to my PI income, as I've never seen a cloacky camper attack an unfitted 1M worth transport without any real loot.
That would mean that the roaming gangs (active at the same time as the standby hotdrop fleets) sponsored by GG would have to cost me about 30M losses daily on average to start hitting my wallet. Since I do small gang PVP in cheap ships and generally in groups I doubt that will happen. But suppose they are horribly effective and I play in expensive ships and I lose 100M monthly. That means that with my current truly sad wallet, I'd be able to take that loss for just under six years before I cannot afford more ships. This of course assumes no SRP at all. And in those six years I'd have a guarantueed PvP experience every single time I logged on.
I don't really see a downside here. When will the Delve version begin?
And that's a valid point for someone within the CFC that perhaps doesn't have that much of an impact no offense. If all you do is a random site, a 30 mil per day PI run and fly cheap cruisers, you may just not be that valuable of a target. But you're right on all your points and you managed to get it across respectfully so much appreciated.
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote: I'm not asking you to care. It's a simple question. Mittens stated that NCdot is all ex-BoB on TMC. You claim BoB was actually destroyed and annihilated. How do you reconcile these differences?
i am bored today so it will amuse me to answer this question, once you actually do the work as i don't feel like bothering to find the articles that don't actually say what you think they say link whatever you think has created this astounding logical trap that impacts our hilariously complete destruction of BoB and carefully make your argument and i will tear it to shreads on a coffee break
Well the context of the argument is that you get to tell others what to do. (Please tell me what to do. I live in Lowsec Genesis. Bring caps...oh wait.) And that you destroyed BoB and you're "winning." Yet Mittens often refers to NCdot and other N3 elements "as the same as BoB" paraphrasing here. Well they currently hold more space and make much more isk from their renting empires as your leader lamented.
I honestly would find the article of the ****** TMC search engine would actually work. But seriously Mittens equating whatever enemy the CFC is fighting with BoB is well known. Hades Effect /-áDispute Services |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
778
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:35:00 -
[227] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Well the context of the argument is that you get to tell others what to do. (Please tell me what to do. I live in Lowsec Genesis. Bring caps...oh wait.) And that you destroyed BoB and you're "winning." Yet Mittens often refers to NCdot and other N3 elements "as the same as BoB" paraphrasing here. Well they currently hold more space and make much more isk from their renting empires as your leader lamented.
I honestly would find the article of the ****** TMC search engine would actually work. But seriously Mittens equating whatever enemy the CFC is fighting with BoB is well known. it does not amuse me to argue against the figments of your en24-addled imagination, it will only amuse me to argue actual facts rather than shadowbox what the voices in your head believe to be true |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4273
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Posted - 2014.09.17 19:16:00 -
[228] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Lucas I've seen you post titanic length threadnaught posts everywhere you go. Mad about marmite, mad about Goblin, and when someone disagrees with you you just go to personal attacks. And then you fall back to "lol you take the game more seriously than I win. Ahaha-ahaha-ahaha I win!" I can't help but imagine this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1hmDYnbasI Perhaps you need to revisit your definition of personal attacks. Maybe it's just British humour not coming across right, but I rarely attack anyone. Calling someone out for being a dumbass not being a personal attack.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I honestly would find the article of the ****** TMC search engine would actually work. But seriously Mittens equating whatever enemy the CFC is fighting with BoB is well known. Search like this then. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
407
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:16:00 -
[229] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Well the context of the argument is that you get to tell others what to do. (Please tell me what to do. I live in Lowsec Genesis. Bring caps...oh wait.) And that you destroyed BoB and you're "winning." Yet Mittens often refers to NCdot and other N3 elements "as the same as BoB" paraphrasing here. Well they currently hold more space and make much more isk from their renting empires as your leader lamented.
I honestly would find the article of the ****** TMC search engine would actually work. But seriously Mittens equating whatever enemy the CFC is fighting with BoB is well known. it does not amuse me to argue against the figments of your en24-addled imagination, it will only amuse me to argue actual facts rather than shadowbox what the voices in your head believe to be true
Just to be clear, you deny Mittens referring to various enemies past and present as some sort of incarnation to BoB?
Lucas Kell wrote:Perhaps you need to revisit your definition of personal attacks. Maybe it's just British humour not coming across right, but I rarely attack anyone. Calling someone out for being a dumbass not being a personal attack.
If you choose to take your pants off, stick your butt in the air and proceed to **** all over yourself, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise when you seem to be so dead set on believing you're a volcano. British enough for you? [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=336951[/url] / [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=360335&find=unread[/url] / Lowsec Protection |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
778
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:33:00 -
[230] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Just to be clear, you deny Mittens referring to various enemies past and present as some sort of incarnation to BoB?
i do not plan on dancing around the precise wording of various aspects of your delusions that lead to a deluded endpoint one by one and allow you to try to bog down your betters in semantic discussions to avoid getting to how incredibly dumb your argument was
make your entire argument at once with links to the actual things mittens has said that you'd like to rely on in your vain attempt to make whatever point you'd like to watch shimmer in the sunlight for about five seconds before i rip it to shreads |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
407
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:39:00 -
[231] - Quote
i will promise to do that only and only when you show that you can learn how to use puncutation and know the difference between a run on sentence and a coherent thought so that we may exchange our debates and arguments over the internets in an intellectual manner somewhere in the stratosphere visavi your current intellectual position
Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
407
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:42:00 -
[232] - Quote
Angelique Duchemin wrote:Charax Bouclier wrote:Quote:at the end of the day the ideology that matters is power. gevlon has, in a rare moment of honesty and self-reflection, admitted that what he hates is not our ideology, it's that we won't let him in. as we are the kings of the hill and spit on him, this causes him to need to either destroy us or become part of us to satisfy his desperate need to be number one. unfortunately for him he is an object of ridicule and he will never succeed. someday, naturally, goonswarm will fall - but it won't be from gevlon (though I have no doubt that even if he quit five years before he will be back to take credit) and nobody will ever think of gevlon as some success instead of a hilarious failure
we, on the other hand: you may hate us, you may desperately try to convince yourself you don't want to be us, you can do whatever you want...but you can't pretend to ignore us Retar, do you have a high rank within the Goons that merits you to speak on their behalf or are you merely one of their insignificant drones that feels mighty because he is a speck amongst a blob of 30k pilots? You certainly use "we" a lot...not a good way to define an individual. Rank? There are no ranks in the Goons. There's just citizens and the people tending to them.
That is right comrade! It seems you have a counter revolutionary among your ranks. Perhaps he needs better re-education of glorious revolution in your camps in Pure Blind. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
778
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:46:00 -
[233] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:i will promise to do that only and only when you show that you can learn how to use puncutation and know the difference between a run on sentence and a coherent thought so that we may exchange our debates and arguments over the internets in an intellectual manner somewhere in the stratosphere visavi your current intellectual position and this is why i take this approach
as the reader can see, forcing seraph to actually commit to his argument demonstrates he knows it is so laughably bad that he cannot put it in words that will not embarrass him merely by existing
instead he has the vain hope that i will make his bad argument for him, knock it down, at which point he will say no that wasn't it and try to make me make it again
instead we have shone the bright light of truth and he has scuttled back as furiously as his tiny legs can carry him to the dank darkness from whence he came |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
778
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:48:00 -
[234] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: That is right comrade! It seems you have a counter revolutionary among your ranks. Perhaps he needs better re-education of glorious revolution in your camps in Pure Blind.
Angelique Duchemin is quite right, any citizen of the cfc is to the rest of eve as a roman citizen was to a horse
my position as a gsf director is not what makes me an overman among moles, it is my position as a gsf member and cfc member that does |
Big Lynx
Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent
638
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:49:00 -
[235] - Quote
What os Teflon Goblin doing in rl? |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2277
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Posted - 2014.09.17 21:17:00 -
[236] - Quote
Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning.
ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4273
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Posted - 2014.09.17 22:18:00 -
[237] - Quote
Good lord, I'd hoped it was locked for good, since it's just a duplicate of his other one. "I r gief money for to shoot goons" The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2116
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Posted - 2014.09.17 22:22:00 -
[238] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Good lord, I'd hoped it was locked for good, since it's just a duplicate of his other one. "I r gief money for to shoot goons" You know, if you and your buddies had just stopped posting in these threads, they would have gone away a long time ago. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4273
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Posted - 2014.09.17 22:24:00 -
[239] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Good lord, I'd hoped it was locked for good, since it's just a duplicate of his other one. "I r gief money for to shoot goons" You know, if you and your buddies had just stopped posting in these threads, they would have gone away a long time ago. Doubt it. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1336
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:09:00 -
[240] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Good lord, I'd hoped it was locked for good, since it's just a duplicate of his other one. "I r gief money for to shoot goons" You know, if you and your buddies had just stopped posting in these threads, they would have gone away a long time ago. Doubt it.
Also doubt it. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
858
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:37:00 -
[241] - Quote
This thread has been gutted completely. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
827
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Posted - 2014.09.18 04:20:00 -
[242] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Good lord, I'd hoped it was locked for good, since it's just a duplicate of his other one. "I r gief money for to shoot goons" You know, if you and your buddies had just stopped posting in these threads, they would have gone away a long time ago. Doubt it. Also doubt it. Hobgobble would just bump it with more fail attempts at math. |
CyberRaver
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.09.18 09:17:00 -
[243] - Quote
Indeed keep paying mordus to sit in station as we make billions a night |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.09.18 17:19:00 -
[244] - Quote
snipe
Yo Gevlon, heres how you hurt an alliance you should try it http://imgur.com/nUilG32 |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.09.18 17:27:00 -
[245] - Quote
Another proof that Gevlon does not know what he is talking about. But I suppose he will eventually roll this up to MoA being terrible and insist that his non-sensical theories are effective on achieving an objective. (They aren't) |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2014.09.18 17:54:00 -
[246] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Another proof that Gevlon does not know what he is talking about. But I suppose he will eventually roll this up to MoA being terrible and insist that his non-sensical theories are effective on achieving an objective. (They aren't)
- MoA lost less members in the last 30 days than PBLRD. I'm sure they'll be OK. At least they aren't at the point when they let anyone in for 250M.
- Size doesn't matter, Marmite Collective lost 1/3 of their members in the last 3 months without any decrease in killing CFC
- Do I have MoA ticker? If MoA really failcascades (they won't), I just look at the CFC loss table, pick the #1 (likely PASTA) and support them. The bottleneck is money. Finding someone who shoot CFC for it isn't that hard.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4274
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Posted - 2014.09.18 18:09:00 -
[247] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Another proof that Gevlon does not know what he is talking about. But I suppose he will eventually roll this up to MoA being terrible and insist that his non-sensical theories are effective on achieving an objective. (They aren't)
- MoA lost less members in the last 30 days than PBLRD. I'm sure they'll be OK. At least they aren't at the point when they let anyone in for 250M.
- Size doesn't matter, Marmite Collective lost 1/3 of their members in the last 3 months without any decrease in killing CFC
- Do I have MoA ticker? If MoA really failcascades (they won't), I just look at the CFC loss table, pick the #1 (likely PASTA) and support them. The bottleneck is money. Finding someone who shoot CFC for it isn't that hard.
1. PBLRD doesn't need line members in corps to receive rent. MoA however does need members to keep fighting. Individual renting is a good idea as not everyone wants to be in a regular corp or pay the billions a corp does to get involved in null. How you think opening up null to individuals wanting to play in null is a bad idea is rather confusing. 2. Well it really does. Perhaps it doesn't when your corp sits on an undock ganking industry ships and haulers, but when you are front line fighting a coalition, it tends to help if you can fill a fleet or two. 3. Lol, indeed. Because you don't actually do what you do for the reasons you say you do. You don't give a crap about the idiots you exploit, only about yourself. What could really be expected from someone with the tagline "exploiting morons and slackers". It's only a matter of time before the groups you command around realise you are talking about them and tell you where to stick it.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
804
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Posted - 2014.09.18 18:42:00 -
[248] - Quote
it's been really hilarious how mad moa has been that whenever one of our squads gets bored and camps their home station suddenly they can't undock for days
its a harsh place to be for an alliance that bases its identity on killing goonies, that they get crushed underfoot by one of our squads as a lark so badly they start shedding hundreds of members |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.09.18 19:41:00 -
[249] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Another proof that Gevlon does not know what he is talking about. But I suppose he will eventually roll this up to MoA being terrible and insist that his non-sensical theories are effective on achieving an objective. (They aren't)
- MoA lost less members in the last 30 days than PBLRD. I'm sure they'll be OK. At least they aren't at the point when they let anyone in for 250M.
- Size doesn't matter, Marmite Collective lost 1/3 of their members in the last 3 months without any decrease in killing CFC
- Do I have MoA ticker? If MoA really failcascades (they won't), I just look at the CFC loss table, pick the #1 (likely PASTA) and support them. The bottleneck is money. Finding someone who shoot CFC for it isn't that hard.
PBLRD numbers fluctuate all the time. Renter arrangements are done periodically. MoA is not a renter alliance. You're comparing apples and oranges there.
Besides, size does matter. There's serious strife within MoA currently, because we are killing their main means of income and permacamping the NPC station they stage in with a token force. You really should request access to MoA forums and read the line members thoughts. The rage and anger about not being able to do anything is huge. Everytime I read up MoA forums, I chuckle.
You do not have any ticker, yet you have the audacity to claim their kills with insignificant contributions. This is why you are called out on shifting goal posts. If say, MoA or Marmite could harm us in a meaningful way, you'd be the first in line to claim credit for it. Yet when they suffer and start to bleed out, you say "I don't have their ticker". In that case, you wasted your time and money on a fool's errand.
Seriously Gevlon, is there any permanent strategic damage you have incurred on CFC so far? You keep saying that you made us give up our highsec POCOs, yet the truth of the matter is, we only transferred them to RvB, which you claim to be our highsec arm.
You have been spending months of time and billions of ISK on this 'project', yet you have nothing to show up for. And the weirdest thing here is, I actually want you to continue wasting your time and ISK on a wild goose chase. It is quite funny.
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2014.09.18 20:04:00 -
[250] - Quote
Confirming that we are now offering a new service via [NOBUX], thanks for the plug, Gevlon! |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
808
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Posted - 2014.09.18 20:17:00 -
[251] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote: PBLRD numbers fluctuate all the time. Renter arrangements are done periodically. MoA is not a renter alliance. You're comparing apples and oranges there.
not sure i'd go that far, they're pretty similar its just that pblrd pays us instead of the other way around like moa and gevlon |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2120
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Posted - 2014.09.18 21:33:00 -
[252] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:it's been really hilarious how mad moa has been that whenever one of our squads gets bored and camps their home station suddenly they can't undock for days
its a harsh place to be for an alliance that bases its identity on killing goonies, that they get crushed underfoot by one of our squads as a lark so badly they start shedding hundreds of members Actually can shed some light on that, if you like.
So, apparently, people that have supers, titans, and enough isk and sp to effectivley fly everything from T3's to carriers eventually get bored of flying interceptors and dessies 90% of the time. Who would have thought, right? Some of these moves have been in the works for a long time. Have your spies check our forums if you don't believe me.
As for your camp, you've been camping in the same 3 afk blues for the past week and a half. The bulk of us went elsewhere a while back to **** with CO2 resulting in this gem:
Quote: Circle-Of-Two Declares War Against Mordus Angels From: CONCORD Sent: 2014.09.14 05:12
Circle-Of-Two has declared war on Mordus Angels. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. If war is due to a corporation at war joining an alliance, then the war starts immediately instead.
Isn't it cute? |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2014.09.18 21:58:00 -
[253] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:As for your camp, you've been camping in the same 3 afk blues for the past week and a half. The bulk of us went elsewhere a while back to **** with CO2 resulting in this gem: Quote: Circle-Of-Two Declares War Against Mordus Angels From: CONCORD Sent: 2014.09.14 05:12
Circle-Of-Two has declared war on Mordus Angels. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. If war is due to a corporation at war joining an alliance, then the war starts immediately instead.
Isn't it cute?
Wow, that there sure is a gem
-Mr Omniblivion |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2120
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Posted - 2014.09.18 22:02:00 -
[254] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:As for your camp, you've been camping in the same 3 afk blues for the past week and a half. The bulk of us went elsewhere a while back to **** with CO2 resulting in this gem: Quote: Circle-Of-Two Declares War Against Mordus Angels From: CONCORD Sent: 2014.09.14 05:12
Circle-Of-Two has declared war on Mordus Angels. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. If war is due to a corporation at war joining an alliance, then the war starts immediately instead.
Isn't it cute? Wow, that there sure is a gem -Mr Omniblivion My apologies, I should've said "le gem", then some of your dudes could get the grrr reddit out of their system.
-PotatoOverdose |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
808
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Posted - 2014.09.18 23:16:00 -
[255] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote: As for your camp, you've been camping in the same 3 afk blues for the past week and a half. The bulk of us went elsewhere a while
you do know we can look at local and count right
that said you guys are going somewhere else
specifically, some other alliance :getin: |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2120
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Posted - 2014.09.18 23:40:00 -
[256] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote: As for your camp, you've been camping in the same 3 afk blues for the past week and a half. The bulk of us went elsewhere a while
you do know we can look at local and count right that said you guys are going somewhere else specifically, some other alliance :getin: Just logged in an alt to check.
You are correct, there are now 5 moa in 5zxx instead of 3. My bad. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4275
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Posted - 2014.09.19 06:57:00 -
[257] - Quote
Wow, now that's 2 threads with MoA members on damage control. Needs a bit of work though. I doubt the line members will be gobbling that down with ease. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1240
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Posted - 2014.09.19 07:11:00 -
[258] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: Size doesn't matter, Marmite Collective lost 1/3 of their members in the last 3 months without any decrease in killing CFC Its not the size that matters, its how you use it .... uhh... YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6194
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Posted - 2014.09.19 08:43:00 -
[259] - Quote
Here I am on page [unknown], checking in to rage about something that has so far had zero effect on me. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1729
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Posted - 2014.09.19 10:34:00 -
[260] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment.
as an isd you should know that trolling is prohibited Epic Space Cat |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2014.09.19 15:48:00 -
[261] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Just logged in an alt to check.
You are correct, there are now 5 moa in 5zxx instead of 3. My bad.
Since MoA are getting kicked out of NPC Null, we'd like to extend an exciting opportunity for (what's left of) your alliance! The CFC offers a comprehensive rental program, with a variety of systems available to perfectly suit your needs. Because of our long history with the CFC, we'd even be willing to offer you a discount on the listed price!
Jump on this opportunity and prosper! |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
408
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Posted - 2014.09.19 18:50:00 -
[262] - Quote
Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere...
Seriously though...
...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable? Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
859
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Posted - 2014.09.19 19:00:00 -
[263] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere... Seriously though... ...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable?
It's their RP home. It's all politically significant and such.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.09.19 20:14:00 -
[264] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere... Seriously though... ...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable?
Area denial. Why don't you come over to 5Z and try to operate out of there? |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2014.09.19 20:53:00 -
[265] - Quote
Angelique Duchemin wrote: It's their RP home. It's all politically significant and such.
Also, where is the graph from MoA/Gevlon showing the amount of ISK damage we're doing to MoA by stopping their mission running???? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.20 11:01:00 -
[266] - Quote
If I send MOA 500b how long do you think it would take gevlon to match it? This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
298
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Posted - 2014.09.20 12:27:00 -
[267] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:If I send MOA 500b how long do you think it would take gevlon to match it? There is only one way to find out. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.20 13:15:00 -
[268] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If I send MOA 500b how long do you think it would take gevlon to match it? There is only one way to find out.
I agree. Unfortunately you decided to not answer so I guess we'll have to wonder. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
408
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Posted - 2014.09.20 21:47:00 -
[269] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere... Seriously though... ...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable? Area denial. Why don't you come over to 5Z and try to operate out of there?
I'm sure they are devastated for not being able to "operate" in one NPC system. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.09.20 22:34:00 -
[270] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere... Seriously though... ...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable? Area denial. Why don't you come over to 5Z and try to operate out of there? I'm sure they are devastated for not being able to "operate" in one NPC system.
They are, just make sure to check MoA forums out to see the anger about it. |
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
298
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Posted - 2014.09.21 04:50:00 -
[271] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote: Their directors know that themselves and the base membership is truly terrible at EVE, that's why they try to skew the numbers and focus solely on numbers as MoA has nothing to else to show for when it comes to achievements, assets or victories in the game of null sec politics.
Translation: MoA has very good numbers, but Goons are better in unmeasurable, opinionated stuff. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.21 05:14:00 -
[272] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Their directors know that themselves and the base membership is truly terrible at EVE, that's why they try to skew the numbers and focus solely on numbers as MoA has nothing to else to show for when it comes to achievements, assets or victories in the game of null sec politics.
Translation: MoA had very good numbers, but Goons made 300 of them ragequit.
Fixed. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
409
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Posted - 2014.09.21 09:30:00 -
[273] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere... Seriously though... ...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable? Area denial. Why don't you come over to 5Z and try to operate out of there? I'm sure they are devastated for not being able to "operate" in one NPC system. They are, just make sure to check MoA forums out to see the anger about it. You are acting as if you don't know that MoA is the lowest entity on the whole null pecking order. It's literally an entity which instructs it's members to keep ship losses to certain levels (i.e. no losses over 50m ISK) because only thing they can sell to their core membership is the illusion of being good at PvP through killing AFK ratters. Their directors know that themselves and the base membership is truly terrible at EVE, that's why they try to skew the numbers and focus solely on numbers as MoA has nothing to else to show for when it comes to achievements, assets or victories in the game of null sec politics.
Not so much better. Man for man MoA has better players. It's just that there's about 500 of you for every 1 of theirs. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.21 09:33:00 -
[274] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Man for man MoA has better players.
I can find 1200 people in the CFC that, man for man, are better players than what MOA has. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
409
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Posted - 2014.09.21 09:45:00 -
[275] - Quote
I'm sure you think that but it's doubtful.
What kind of goon are you? You aren't suppose to think you're good. You're suppose to think you're **** and revel in the fact that you just tardblob the enemy to death and make them cry anyway.
What happened to you goons...used to stand for something...something autistic... 0/10 Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.09.21 11:52:00 -
[276] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Their directors know that themselves and the base membership is truly terrible at EVE, that's why they try to skew the numbers and focus solely on numbers as MoA has nothing to else to show for when it comes to achievements, assets or victories in the game of null sec politics.
Translation: MoA has very good numbers, but Goons are better in unmeasurable, opinionated stuff.
No, they do not have very good numbers at all. Your so called method of measurement is very much flawed, however even if one takes your measurement as fact (which it isn't) one will see that in any occasion that whatever MoA fought could shoot back, MoA lost the field and the engagement.
Ultimate measurement in null is the ability to project power and being able to hold control of assets and space that generate income at both individual and organizational levels. MoA has struggled in the past many times to do the above, but every time they tried, they were stomped to the ground. On the other hand, what GSF and CFC can do needs no explanation here.
There is only one thing MoA is semi competent at: It is finding excuses for being at the bottom of the food chain in null and not being able to hold onto and control any assets and power. It is hilarious to watch MoA to come up with ~independence~ narrative for instance, when they couldn't hold sov or any structures in space, for that matter. They can't form up and defend even a single POS.
MoA is the laughing stock of anybody who is a serious player in null. They are a joke. Even our traditional enemies in the classical sense chuckle themselves when they hear about MoA. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
300
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:17:00 -
[277] - Quote
What's the purpose of owning Sov and structures in space? If it is to just look at it and say "we own it", then you are right, CFC is great and MoA is ****. Too bad that no CFC leader ever told it and with BoTLord they openly stated that they do not wish to own more.
The only other purpose of having Sov and structures is enabling ISK making. Towers mean moon materials and Sov means ratting space (for members and renters). Without ratters, Sov is just empty space that eats CONCORD costs.
While the Goon propaganda brigade can shout as loud as they can "we don't give a damn for dead ratters", the fact that Deklein is the #1 ratting region and Branch is the #2 in nullsec testifies otherwise. The fact that Goons and their minions rat more than literally anyone else proves without doubt that Goons and their minions want to rat.
Whoever stops them from ratting takes something important from them. And MoA - even by your words - is very good in doing that. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
859
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:55:00 -
[278] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:What's the purpose of owning Sov and structures in space?
To have a home. A home where we live, where we have everything that we work for and ultimately where we make a stand.
Here we are. We are here because we can defend it against everyone who ever wanted to take it from us.
We have a capital and it's an open challenge to all our enemies to take it. The fact that we have it and hold it proves our united strength because it's a home that is defended by us and not by game mechanics.
It's the difference between living in a station and squatting in a station.
When MOA are defeated in a fight for their own home, they dock up and wait for the enemies to get bored and leave.
When our home is attacked we defend it or we lose it all together. We are committed to it and we will hold the line for our home and all the citizens that live there. Against any and all enemies.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1082
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:57:00 -
[279] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:The fact that Goons and their minions rat more than literally anyone else proves without doubt that Goons and their minions want to rat.
Whoever stops them from ratting takes something important from them. And MoA - even by your words - is very good in doing that. Getting your ratting ship blown up every once in a while doesn't stop you from ratting. Just based on number of NPC kills in dek and branch it doesn't seem like you're having *any* effect despite the billions you are supposedly spending. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.09.21 16:45:00 -
[280] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Their directors know that themselves and the base membership is truly terrible at EVE, that's why they try to skew the numbers and focus solely on numbers as MoA has nothing to else to show for when it comes to achievements, assets or victories in the game of null sec politics.
Translation: MoA has very good numbers, but Goons are better in unmeasurable, opinionated stuff. Small, unmeasurable things like galactic conquest |
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
780
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Posted - 2014.09.21 17:06:00 -
[281] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: While the Goon propaganda brigade can shout as loud as they can "we don't give a damn for dead ratters", the fact that Deklein is the #1 ratting region and Branch is the #2 in nullsec testifies otherwise. The fact that Goons and their minions rat more than literally anyone else proves without doubt that Goons and their minions want to rat.
Whoever stops them from ratting takes something important from them. And MoA - even by your words - is very good in doing that.
The alliance only cares about it so much as it brings in a bit of tax money, and they encourage it mostly as a means to keep members logged in and living in our space. After that, each member is responsible for their own ratting ship and replacing it if they lose it.
While individuals may care about ratting losses, We do not. Ratting by itself is a personal isk making venture, and if an individual screws that up it is all on them. Same as a CFC member losing their personal freighter full of their own moon goo products. And the same goes for goons who take a loss station trading or industrialist who build ships that don't sell. We just don't really care all that much when someone's personal get rich quick scheme blows up in their face, especially if it is from something they have been warned about. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2014.09.21 17:12:00 -
[282] - Quote
I'm having a hard time understanding Gevlon's argument.
1) CFC Deploys to Delve 2) MOA and friends delcare on people left in Deklein (afk ratters) 3) CFC wins war and comes home 4) CFC deploys one squad to MOA "home base" (npc null) 5) MOA immediately redeploy to a different region and lose like 300+ members
Apparently our rental program is fail cascading, and we're being forced to start a new program to leech a pittance amount of isk per member in a one time fee.
Apparently Gevlon "caused" hundreds of billions of damage to us in this time- ????????????????
I'd like to propose a counter argument: Goons are doing 10's or 100's of billions worth of ISK damage to Gevlon Goblin, because we've not actually lost anything.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
409
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Posted - 2014.09.21 17:57:00 -
[283] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Their directors know that themselves and the base membership is truly terrible at EVE, that's why they try to skew the numbers and focus solely on numbers as MoA has nothing to else to show for when it comes to achievements, assets or victories in the game of null sec politics.
Translation: MoA has very good numbers, but Goons are better in unmeasurable, opinionated stuff. No, they do not have very good numbers at all. Your so called method of measurement is very much flawed, however even if one takes your measurement as fact (which it isn't) one will see that in any occasion that whatever MoA fought could shoot back, MoA lost the field and the engagement. MoA directors scream and shout at their line members in order to keep their losses below for instance, 50M per hull, because they are very well aware that MoA's any shot at claiming to be not terrible at something lies within cooking up the killboard stats. Basically, what they do is cook up the stats with AFK ratter kills and then be terribly risk averse at their own actions that involve actual PvP, which involves engaging ships that shoot back at you. This is why MoA does not have and never had a line doctrine. This is why MoA can never hold any field against any opponent that can shoot back. The ultimate measurement in null is the ability to project power and being able to hold control of assets and space that generate income at both individual and organizational levels. MoA has struggled and failed in the past many times to do the above, but every time they tried, they were stomped to the ground. On the other hand, what GSF and CFC can do needs no explanation here. You cannot cook up numbers with these. There is only one thing MoA is semi competent at: It is finding excuses for being at the bottom of the food chain in null and not being able to hold onto and control any assets and power. It is hilarious to watch MoA to come up with ~independence~ narrative for instance, when they couldn't hold sov or any structures in space, for that matter. They can't form up and defend even a single POS. MoA is the laughing stock of anybody who is a serious player in null. They are a joke. Even our traditional enemies in the classical sense chuckle themselves when they hear about MoA. This is why MoA and you Gevlon, is a perfect match in my opinion. You should join and carry the ticker, instead of waiting for a day you'll get accepted into GoonWaffe. (As you have been told before, you are never getting in) After all, much like MoA, you have been playing EVE for quite some time now and you have so far failed every goal you have publicly set for yourself maybe except for trading in a station. You and MoA are a match made in heaven.
Why would MoA, an alliance the fraction or your coalition's size, attack you when you have so many more numbers? Of course they're going to go after ratters and other ships. What else would you do. Have you ever read a history book? You seem like the type of person that would benefit greatly.
Here you go:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=mao+zedong+book+guerrilla+warfare&tbm=shop
Not a big fan of Mao but he has some decent stuff in there. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.09.21 19:05:00 -
[284] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Why would MoA, an alliance the fraction or your coalition's size, attack you when you have so many more numbers? They attack us because they are mad about video games. Same reason Gevlon spend hours and hours poring over killmails and typing up posts and charts and spending hundreds of billions of isk. Mad about video games.
But for everything, there are consequences. Take insurgents like PASTA and MOA for example. PASTA had an agreement with the CFC once as did Black Legion. PASTA got a pocket to rent out in Delve and probably some moons too. They had stable, reliable income and didnt even have to blue anybody, we sold supers to Black Legion at better than forums prices and they had a pocket in Querious to rent out.
Then somebody got mad in a video game and they threw it all away. Same for MOA. Who really suffers? The leaders dont suffer, they probably use alliance coffers whatever they may be to support their accounts and needs anyways. The line members lose sovereign space to make isk in, get told they need to go run incursions on a highsec alt or something, sorry boys no srp this month.
All because some guy got mad in a video game. Meanwhile, life goes on in a stable CFC. I have 19 billion liquid isk in my wallet at the moment. Thinking about buying another character, maybe not. have a capital pilot, have a subcap pilot, have an afk ishtar pilot, dont need money but I run my ratter if I'm not playing another game while watching for interesting fleets/pings.
Never lost a ship ratting, never been ganked in highsec, never been killed by a wartarget and there are tens of thousands, just like me, in the CFC. Lost a lot of ships on fleets and in 0.0 wars, all reimbursed by my space guild. Unaffected by wars, wardecs, insurgents, charts, graphs or killmails.
So if I ever do get killed or ganked I wouldnt get mad about a video game theres no reason to |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.09.21 19:31:00 -
[285] - Quote
Gevlon claims he is untouchable but I would argue that he has been hit by goons the hardest of all. He wakes up in the morning and thinks about goons. Goons wake up and dont think about him.
He sits down at his keyboard and checks the killboards and mails from the night before to see if theres anything juicy. He commutes to work in the morning and is thinking about what to write for his daily post.
Throughout the day at work he checks killboards and forums. Constantly thinking about what to say, what to do, what to post. He gets home from work and puts together a post about goons. Some take longer than others and some can take many hours.
Many hours of research about goons. He updates his orders and makes out his contracts because its become routine, a finely tuned system for making isk. Isk itself is meaningless at this point. It has no value except purchasing power. The EVE Online endgame of Titans is out of his reach because he can never trust an alliance again, can never trust another player again. They have hurt him, they have betrayed and stolen from him, they have scammed and deceived him.
But he will get his revenge, he will show those who despised and rejected him that he is not a man to be trifled with. So he goes on, day after day, plotting, scheming and thinking about goons, and how he can hurt them for hurting and rejecting him.
Untouchable |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
300
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Posted - 2014.09.21 20:09:00 -
[286] - Quote
alpha36 wrote:Gevlon claims he is untouchable but I would argue that he has been hit by goons the hardest of all. He wakes up in the morning and thinks about goons. Goons wake up and dont think about him. Says the Goon posting about me.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.09.21 21:33:00 -
[287] - Quote
Made you post |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
409
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Posted - 2014.09.21 21:51:00 -
[288] - Quote
alpha36 wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Why would MoA, an alliance the fraction or your coalition's size, attack you when you have so many more numbers? They attack us because they are mad about video games. Same reason Gevlon spend hours and hours poring over killmails and typing up posts and charts and spending hundreds of billions of isk. Mad about video games. But for everything, there are consequences. Take insurgents like PASTA and MOA for example. PASTA had an agreement with the CFC once as did Black Legion. PASTA got a pocket to rent out in Delve and probably some moons too. They had stable, reliable income and didnt even have to blue anybody, we sold supers to Black Legion at better than forums prices and they had a pocket in Querious to rent out. Then somebody got mad in a video game and they threw it all away. Same for MOA. Who really suffers? The leaders dont suffer, they probably use alliance coffers whatever they may be to support their accounts and needs anyways. The line members lose sovereign space to make isk in, get told they need to go run incursions on a highsec alt or something, sorry boys no srp this month. All because some guy got mad in a video game. Meanwhile, life goes on in a stable CFC. I have 19 billion liquid isk in my wallet at the moment. Thinking about buying another character, maybe not. have a capital pilot, have a subcap pilot, have an afk ishtar pilot, dont need money but I run my ratter if I'm not playing another game while watching for interesting fleets/pings. Never lost a ship ratting, never been ganked in highsec, never been killed by a wartarget and there are tens of thousands, just like me, in the CFC. Lost a lot of ships on fleets and in 0.0 wars, all reimbursed by my space guild. Unaffected by wars, wardecs, insurgents, charts, graphs or killmails. So if I ever do get killed or ganked I wouldnt get mad about a video game theres no reason to
TLDR,
I think they just like shooting stuff but when you guys out number them so much it's hard to fight head on. Read a book. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2121
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Posted - 2014.09.21 23:30:00 -
[289] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote: No, they do not have very good numbers at all. Your so called method of measurement is very much flawed, however even if one takes your measurement as fact (which it isn't) one will see that in any occasion that whatever MoA fought could shoot back, MoA lost the field and the engagement. MoA directors scream and shout at their line members in order to keep their losses below for instance, 50M per hull, because they are very well aware that MoA's any shot at claiming to be not terrible at something lies within cooking up the killboard stats. Basically, what they do is cook up the stats with AFK ratter kills and then be terribly risk averse at their own actions that involve actual PvP, which involves engaging ships that shoot back at you.
This is why MoA does not have and never had a line doctrine. This is why MoA can never hold any field against any opponent that can shoot back.
The ultimate measurement in null is the ability to project power and being able to hold control of assets and space that generate income at both individual and organizational levels. MoA has struggled and failed in the past many times to do the above, but every time they tried, they were stomped to the ground. On the other hand, what GSF and CFC can do needs no explanation here. You cannot cook up numbers with these.
There is only one thing MoA is semi competent at: It is finding excuses for being at the bottom of the food chain in null and not being able to hold onto and control any assets and power. It is hilarious to watch MoA to come up with ~independence~ narrative for instance, when they couldn't hold sov or any structures in space, for that matter. They can't form up and defend even a single POS.
MoA is the laughing stock of anybody who is a serious player in null. They are a joke. Even our traditional enemies in the classical sense chuckle themselves when they hear about MoA.
This is why MoA and you Gevlon, is a perfect match in my opinion. You should join and carry the ticker, instead of waiting for a day you'll get accepted into GoonWaffe. (As you have been told before, you are never getting in) After all, much like MoA, you have been playing EVE for quite some time now and you have so far failed every goal you have publicly set for yourself maybe except for trading in a station.
You and MoA are a match made in heaven.
alpha36 wrote:They attack us because they are mad about video games. Same reason Gevlon spend hours and hours poring over killmails and typing up posts and charts and spending hundreds of billions of isk. Mad about video games. But for everything, there are consequences. Take insurgents like PASTA and MOA for example. PASTA had an agreement with the CFC once as did Black Legion. PASTA got a pocket to rent out in Delve and probably some moons too. They had stable, reliable income and didnt even have to blue anybody, we sold supers to Black Legion at better than forums prices and they had a pocket in Querious to rent out. Then somebody got mad in a video game and they threw it all away. Same for MOA. Who really suffers? The leaders dont suffer, they probably use alliance coffers whatever they may be to support their accounts and needs anyways. The line members lose sovereign space to make isk in, get told they need to go run incursions on a highsec alt or something, sorry boys no srp this month. All because some guy got mad in a video game. Meanwhile, life goes on in a stable CFC. I have 19 billion liquid isk in my wallet at the moment. Thinking about buying another character, maybe not. have a capital pilot, have a subcap pilot, have an afk ishtar pilot, dont need money but I run my ratter if I'm not playing another game while watching for interesting fleets/pings. Never lost a ship ratting, never been ganked in highsec, never been killed by a wartarget and there are tens of thousands, just like me, in the CFC. Lost a lot of ships on fleets and in 0.0 wars, all reimbursed by my space guild. Unaffected by wars, wardecs, insurgents, charts, graphs or killmails. So if I ever do get killed or ganked I wouldnt get mad about a video game theres no reason to
alpha36 wrote:Gevlon claims he is untouchable but I would argue that he has been hit by goons the hardest of all. He wakes up in the morning and thinks about goons. Goons wake up and dont think about him.
He sits down at his keyboard and checks the killboards and mails from the night before to see if theres anything juicy. He commutes to work in the morning and is thinking about what to write for his daily post.
Throughout the day at work he checks killboards and forums. Constantly thinking about what to say, what to do, what to post. He gets home from work and puts together a post about goons. Some take longer than others and some can take many hours.
Many hours of research about goons. He updates his orders and makes out his contracts because its become routine, a finely tuned system for making isk. Isk itself is meaningless at this point. It has no value except purchasing power. The EVE Online endgame of Titans is out of his reach because he can never trust an alliance again, can never trust another player again. They have hurt him, they have betrayed and stolen from him, they have scammed and deceived him.
But he will get his revenge, he will show those who despised and rejected him that he is not a man to be trifled with. So he goes on, day after day, plotting, scheming and thinking about goons, and how he can hurt them for hurting and rejecting him.
Untouchable
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2121
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Posted - 2014.09.21 23:51:00 -
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In other news, MOA continues to be camped into the 5zxx station for the 4th consecutive week. During this time, MOA linemembers have not managed to undock or kill a single ship. |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
409
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Posted - 2014.09.22 00:03:00 -
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Clearly this is a Goblin photoshop and actually proves that MoA lost! Grr Goblin Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.09.22 01:50:00 -
[292] - Quote
Oh Mordus you almost had a good thing going then you had to lose those dreads and zero out that efficiency |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2122
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Posted - 2014.09.22 03:00:00 -
[293] - Quote
alpha36 wrote:Oh Mordus you almost had a good thing going then you had to lose those dreads and zero out that efficiency You know what the funny thing is? Even counting those 2 dreads, we lost 5.43 B isk while you lost 5.97 B isk. Horribly mismatched as our two alliances are, we still came out ahead today.
So much for us not undocking.
alpha36 wrote: I have 19 billion liquid isk in my wallet , ... have an afk ishtar pilot Ah, that explains your posting. You should stick with what you know best. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.22 04:02:00 -
[294] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Without ratters, Sov is just empty space that eats CONCORD costs.
lol This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.22 04:13:00 -
[295] - Quote
What sort of punishment will the guys who lost dreads receive for losing more than 50m? Also have you replaced that Nyx yet? This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4275
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Posted - 2014.09.22 07:32:00 -
[296] - Quote
It's funny when people bring up the "it's guerilla warfare" argument. A tiny group shooting a large one is not automatically guerilla warfare. Kids throwing rocks at an off duty soldier isn't guerilla warfare. MoA shoot ratters so they can say "look at all the isk we killed, we're ending goons, honest", but it's all just posturing.
The thing is, MoA have explained before that they play for fun. They aren't going to be engaging in guerilla warfare because they don't think internet spaceships is serious business. They want to enjoy the game and they want their members to enjoy the game and they will do what they need to to make that continue. So they'll shoot ratters and they'll get into the odd fight with CFC forces, but they aren't committing everything to it and they aren't going to force their members into the hundreds of ops it would take to cause serious damage. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
410
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Posted - 2014.09.22 08:07:00 -
[297] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:It's funny when people bring up the "it's guerilla warfare" argument. A tiny group shooting a large one is not automatically guerilla warfare. Kids throwing rocks at an off duty soldier isn't guerilla warfare. MoA shoot ratters so they can say "look at all the isk we killed, we're ending goons, honest", but it's all just posturing. The thing is, MoA have explained before that they play for fun. They aren't going to be engaging in guerilla warfare because they don't think internet spaceships is serious business. They want to enjoy the game and they want their members to enjoy the game and they will do what they need to to make that continue. So they'll shoot ratters and they'll get into the odd fight with CFC forces, but they aren't committing everything to it and they aren't going to force their members into the hundreds of ops it would take to cause serious damage.
"your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
P'tank
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
8
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Posted - 2014.09.22 09:51:00 -
[298] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
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CFC members are obviously not eligible. ....
You know why you have this rule right? Due to the Vile Rat memorial the alliances who caused the most damage to the CFC are all members of the CFC :D, for example this kill: https://zkillboard.com/kill/41273842/
So please send us your 20B.
You've taken spreadsheets in space a bit to far. Your pathetic little effort is a meaningless drop on a hot plate.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:08:00 -
[299] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:"your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless.
There was no hidden meaning in what he said. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4275
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:13:00 -
[300] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:"your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless. Lol, no, your argument is bad because it typical EN24 style it's not even remotely based on facts. You throw around Guerrilla warfare, because when a small group has absolutely no noticeable impact, it's easy to simply say "it's guerrilla warfare" as if that means that behind the scenes there's something actually happening. The truth of the matter is that most of MoA couldn't give a flying **** who they attack and there's not some covert strategic plan in action. It's a game and they play it for fun. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
350
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:31:00 -
[301] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:What's the purpose of owning Sov and structures in space? If it is to just look at it and say "we own it", then you are right, CFC is great and MoA is ****. Too bad that no CFC leader ever told it and with BoTLord they openly stated that they do not wish to own more.
The only other purpose of having Sov and structures is enabling ISK making. Towers mean moon materials and Sov means ratting space (for members and renters). Without ratters, Sov is just empty space that eats CONCORD costs.
While the Goon propaganda brigade can shout as loud as they can "we don't give a damn for dead ratters", the fact that Deklein is the #1 ratting region and Branch is the #2 in nullsec testifies otherwise. The fact that Goons and their minions rat more than literally anyone else proves without doubt that Goons and their minions want to rat.
Whoever stops them from ratting takes something important from them. And MoA - even by your words - is very good in doing that.
Dear Gevlon,
I shall rat and earn 20 billion isk before you can spend your 20 billion isk. And I don't have a tenth of the alts you have, or half the brains to trade as well as you.
The money will be well spent in supers to ensure Goon supremacy in New Eden.
Yours,
Amyclas For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
MASSADEATH
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
27
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:03:00 -
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We actually stomped the goons last night in a heads up fight... without thier ability to cyno blob us... we killed them all and pushed them off grid and chased them out of system where they had to jump out using 4AB JB
https://zkillboard.com/related/30002005/201409212100/o/%7B%22A%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22B%22%3A%5B%221354830081%22%2C%221006830534%22%5D%7D/
No idea why later some people decided to field dreads
We do like to PvP..we dont live in the middle of the CFC if we did not like to kill them. We are the last entity in the north that is fighting them.
When they use their numbers to camp us... we just move over top another system and attack from there..its no big deal.
I think you have to understand, that we are alone in the north, in the middle of CFC and goons, and we tend to come out ahead in most cases. I think if the situation were reversed, most of your CFC groups would fold under the pressure. In a 1v1 your CFC groups are substandard..as shown by the C02 vs MOA war dec...we are handily beating them down now at 5b killed vs 2b lost.
I think the goon "propoganda" has gotten to your goonie heads. The data does not support that we are bad in anyway, in fact we are a very capable small gang alliance, that faces huge odds against us, whilst being surrounded by the enemy.
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William Ruben
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
57
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:53:00 -
[303] - Quote
grr grr |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4275
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Posted - 2014.09.22 16:01:00 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:When they use their numbers to camp us... we just move over top another system and attack from there..its no big deal. Yup, I guess it's no big deal... except clearly from the responses of your members it is. It's OK to just close your eyes and pretend nobody cares, but clearly it matters to some people a fair bit.
MASSADEATH wrote:I think you have to understand, that we are alone in the north, in the middle of CFC and goons, and we tend to come out ahead in most cases. I think if the situation were reversed, most of your CFC groups would fold under the pressure. In a 1v1 your CFC groups are substandard..as shown by the C02 vs MOA war dec...we are handily beating them down now at 5b killed vs 2b lost.
I think the goon "propoganda" has gotten to your goonie heads. The data does not support that we are bad in anyway, in fact we are a very capable small gang alliance, that faces huge odds against us, whilst being surrounded by the enemy. The CFC was at one point in that position, and they became what they did. And most large null groups are pretty easy to kill 1 on 1, that's not how they generally fight, so most of their members are not practiced at that.
The funny thing is though, you can chestbeat all you like, but when it does come to an even fight, you barely scrape by without calling for help. You use pretty cheap fits and punish your members for using anything too blingy to keep your loss numbers down, but MoA really aren't at the top end of the PvP scale.
But obviously it's all just CFC propaganda. Your members are leaving because you're so awesome that their eyes hurt. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
829
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Posted - 2014.09.22 16:29:00 -
[305] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: "your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless.
i am not suprised i need to explain the sky is blue to an en24 writer, but what lucas is accurately saying is that moa survives by not actually being a threat
were they a threat they would get viciously squashed out of hand, like all other threats in our side of the galaxy. however, they survive because they are simply not a real threat: even the massive stationcamp of them is just some bored squads having fun rather than a real effort to kill off MoA (which is why it's so hilarious it's causing so many people to flee MoA)
moa survives by being impotent enough that they are not a strategic concern, so they can have fun killing the odd ratter here and there |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2014.09.22 16:30:00 -
[306] - Quote
MASSADEATH wrote: I think you have to understand, that we are alone in the north, in the middle of CFC and goons, and we tend to come out ahead in most cases. I think if the situation were reversed, most of your CFC groups would fold under the pressure. In a 1v1 your CFC groups are substandard..as shown by the C02 vs MOA war dec...we are handily beating them down now at 5b killed vs 2b lost.
I think the goon "propoganda" has gotten to your goonie heads. The data does not support that we are bad in anyway, in fact we are a very capable small gang alliance, that faces huge odds against us, whilst being surrounded by the enemy.
Let me help you out here and summarize this whole situation.
- MoA like to PVP, and are probably better at it than many Goons. - Instead of just PVPing, you turn your campaign into a perceived "Holy War" against our "goonie heads" with support from Some Irrelevant Guy - Thus, your "campaign" has evolved into a laughing stock because your total damage inflicted on the CFC has been less than the damage we did to ourselves in one day on Vile Rat Day (feel free to run the numbers on this one, tell me if I'm wrong)
What you need to understand is that Goons also like to PVP, which is why we temporarily deployed one squad to your home system. ISK efficiency doesn't come into play whatsoever for us. When you're talking about a coalition, our goals are objective based rather than "we blew up more isk than we lost". We make trillion(s) of ISK per month at the coalition level, so losing 5bil in battleships to a battleship fleet with carrier support is just another day for us. It's especially hilarious when we then get to kill 2 of your dreads after the fact and basically level out the "isk efficiency"
If you, MoA, and Gevlon want to be taken seriously- drop the "holy war" mentality and just PVP and have fun. Sure, there will always be **** talking from all sides. But the way MoA is currently handling themselves, it's more like a yappy pomeranian barking away at a rottweiler- no one likes pomeranians.
Note: we won't ever actually take Gevlon seriously. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
829
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Posted - 2014.09.22 16:30:00 -
[307] - Quote
to be fair moa also survives by not having anything of value we want
we're pretty much jerks about taking candy from babies and moa is no exception |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
780
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Posted - 2014.09.22 17:54:00 -
[308] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:...we temporarily deployed one squad to your home system.
This is one of the best parts of this whole thing.
All this rage, and from our point of view it was just the side project of a side project. Many of the CFC members involved in it were just there to farm Garmur BPCs. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
301
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Posted - 2014.09.22 18:37:00 -
[309] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote: If you, MoA, and Gevlon want to be taken seriously- drop the "holy war" mentality and just PVP and have fun. Sure, there will always be **** talking from all sides. But the way MoA is currently handling themselves, it's more like a yappy pomeranian barking away at a rottweiler- no one likes pomeranians.
Indeed not. I heard stories about some rabble who didn't have just PvP fun and declaread a Holy War on the alliance holding most of nullsec Band of Brothers. I wonder how that went. I guess they were destroyed by the big and powerful BoB. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2014.09.22 19:04:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:Note: we won't ever actually take Gevlon seriously. Indeed not. I heard stories about some rabble who didn't have just PvP fun and declaread a Holy War on the alliance holding most of nullsec Band of Brothers. I wonder how that went. I guess they were destroyed by the big and powerful BoB.
Seems like you need a history.lesson.
tl;dr
-BoB invaded Syndicate to camp our new fledgling alliance -We joined RSF and Tau Ceti in a long actual war against BoB
-MoA was a temporary member of the CFC -They were kicked out for contributing quite literally nothing to the coalition ("we want to be completely independent from the CFC but be blue to you") -All they care about is ISK efficiency, because That Matters (tm)
Edit: reminiscing about the days when we used to be "allied" with PL and NC |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
830
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Posted - 2014.09.22 20:52:00 -
[311] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote: If you, MoA, and Gevlon want to be taken seriously- drop the "holy war" mentality and just PVP and have fun. Sure, there will always be **** talking from all sides. But the way MoA is currently handling themselves, it's more like a yappy pomeranian barking away at a rottweiler- no one likes pomeranians.
Indeed not. I heard stories about some rabble who didn't have just PvP fun and declaread a Holy War on the alliance holding most of nullsec Band of Brothers. I wonder how that went. I guess they were destroyed by the big and powerful BoB. i, too, remember how goonswarm defeated bob by throwing money at people ganking bob's ratters |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
410
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Posted - 2014.09.22 21:39:00 -
[312] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:"your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless. Lol, no, your argument is bad because it typical EN24 style it's not even remotely based on facts. You throw around Guerrilla warfare, because when a small group has absolutely no noticeable impact, it's easy to simply say "it's guerrilla warfare" as if that means that behind the scenes there's something actually happening. The truth of the matter is that most of MoA couldn't give a flying **** who they attack and there's not some covert strategic plan in action. It's a game and they play it for fun.
Every time we get a "Hur Dur EN24 writer!" bawfest take a shot everyone!
Nobody said that anything was going on "behind the scenes." It's funny just to see so many of you guys riled up over someone so supposedly unimportant and irrelevant. Look at you guys defending your space honor.
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote: "your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless.
i am not suprised i need to explain the sky is blue to an en24 writer, but what lucas is accurately saying is that moa survives by not actually being a threat were they a threat they would get viciously squashed out of hand, like all other threats in our side of the galaxy. however, they survive because they are simply not a real threat: even the massive stationcamp of them is just some bored squads having fun rather than a real effort to kill off MoA (which is why it's so hilarious it's causing so many people to flee MoA) moa survives by being impotent enough that they are not a strategic concern, so they can have fun killing the odd ratter here and there
Drink!
You know what I think my issue with so many 0.0 mega coalition members is? You're "believers." Like someone that has a republican or democrat bumper sticker on their car and has to share their opinion like anyone gives a flying **** because they're insecure about being heard. You have to come here and let everyone know Goblin isn't bothering you and that MoA isn't an actual threat and defend yourselves with "didn't want X anyway" and "already replaced" comments.
We'll introduce something interesting for you though. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.22 21:49:00 -
[313] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:"your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless. Lol, no, your argument is bad because it typical EN24 style it's not even remotely based on facts. You throw around Guerrilla warfare, because when a small group has absolutely no noticeable impact, it's easy to simply say "it's guerrilla warfare" as if that means that behind the scenes there's something actually happening. The truth of the matter is that most of MoA couldn't give a flying **** who they attack and there's not some covert strategic plan in action. It's a game and they play it for fun. Every time we get a "Hur Dur EN24 writer!" bawfest take a shot everyone! Nobody said that anything was going on "behind the scenes." It's funny just to see so many of you guys riled up over someone so supposedly unimportant and irrelevant. Look at you guys defending your space honor. Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote: "your argument is bad because MoA isn't throwing themselves on their sword fighting us."
Yeah you're clueless.
i am not suprised i need to explain the sky is blue to an en24 writer, but what lucas is accurately saying is that moa survives by not actually being a threat were they a threat they would get viciously squashed out of hand, like all other threats in our side of the galaxy. however, they survive because they are simply not a real threat: even the massive stationcamp of them is just some bored squads having fun rather than a real effort to kill off MoA (which is why it's so hilarious it's causing so many people to flee MoA) moa survives by being impotent enough that they are not a strategic concern, so they can have fun killing the odd ratter here and there Drink! You know what I think my issue with so many 0.0 mega coalition members is? You're "believers." Like someone that has a republican or democrat bumper sticker on their car and has to share their opinion like anyone gives a flying **** because they're insecure about being heard. You have to come here and let everyone know Goblin isn't bothering you and that MoA isn't an actual threat and defend yourselves with "didn't want X anyway" and "already replaced" comments. We'll introduce something interesting for you though.
This is what is really happening. We're going to do or say anything that will keep him ripping that paper. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6195
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Posted - 2014.09.22 21:54:00 -
[314] - Quote
And literally laughing at him keeps him doing these things. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
830
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Posted - 2014.09.22 21:59:00 -
[315] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Drink!
You know what I think my issue with so many 0.0 mega coalition members is? You're "believers." Like someone that has a republican or democrat bumper sticker on their car and has to share their opinion like anyone gives a flying **** because they're insecure about being heard. You have to come here and let everyone know Goblin isn't bothering you and that MoA isn't an actual threat and defend yourselves with "didn't want X anyway" and "already replaced" comments.
We'll introduce something interesting for you though.
i don't really see why anyone would care about what your issue was with us, to be honest, except to the extent it is amusing in its thin bitter rationalizations and we've sort of had our fill from you on those
but i suppose when the best you can offer is "drink anytime someone points out how i have discredited myself and shamed my family and ancestors" and personal stories about yourself to try to avoid admitting the goons are right, you've got to go to post with the posts you have, not the posts you want |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
830
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Posted - 2014.09.22 22:01:00 -
[316] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:And literally laughing at him keeps him doing these things. yeah posting in these threads is amazingly effective warfare against gevlon's wallet
so far we've spent zero isk posting in these threads, and wasted something on the order of 100-200b of his money, giving us an isk ratio of infinity
that's some good postin' there |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2014.09.22 22:03:00 -
[317] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Like someone that has a republican or democrat bumper sticker on their car and has to share their opinion like anyone gives a flying **** because they're insecure about being heard
I find this comment in this thread by this poster especially ironic |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
410
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Posted - 2014.09.23 00:30:00 -
[318] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote: Drink!
You know what I think my issue with so many 0.0 mega coalition members is? You're "believers." Like someone that has a republican or democrat bumper sticker on their car and has to share their opinion like anyone gives a flying **** because they're insecure about being heard. You have to come here and let everyone know Goblin isn't bothering you and that MoA isn't an actual threat and defend yourselves with "didn't want X anyway" and "already replaced" comments.
We'll introduce something interesting for you though.
i don't really see why anyone would care about what your issue was with us, to be honest, except to the extent it is amusing in its thin bitter rationalizations and we've sort of had our fill from you on those but i suppose when the best you can offer is "drink anytime someone points out how i have discredited myself and shamed my family and ancestors" and personal stories about yourself to try to avoid admitting the goons are right, you've got to go to post with the posts you have, not the posts you want
I'm not even sure what you think you were trying to post. Try again with a coherent thought. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4275
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Posted - 2014.09.23 07:07:00 -
[319] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Every time we get a "Hur Dur EN24 writer!" bawfest take a shot everyone! Nobody said that anything was going on "behind the scenes." It's funny just to see so many of you guys riled up over someone so supposedly unimportant and irrelevant. Look at you guys defending your space honor. Do you know what riled up is? It's not happening here. All were' doing is pointing out stupid things and collectively laughing. You've chosen to sit on the side of laughed at. Nothing beyond that is occurring.
And there's a reason EN24 writers get a bad rep. It's to do with the god awful quality of posts on that site. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
350
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Posted - 2014.09.23 11:09:00 -
[320] - Quote
So I tried to see if I can rat more isk then the Goblin trades, and found that the goons took all the sites. Some nutcase has 4 carriers in my system and started saying that all the havens are his.
Grr Goons... For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
833
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Posted - 2014.09.23 15:03:00 -
[321] - Quote
i am pleased to see that in gevlon's latest blog he too agrees that moa are like babies and that we are evil for taking the candy from their chubby little hands and watching their pinchable cheeks redden as they sob wailing for their candy back
of course it's evil, that's the point |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
406
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:34:00 -
[322] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:And literally laughing at him keeps him doing these things. yeah posting in these threads is amazingly effective warfare against gevlon's wallet so far we've spent zero isk posting in these threads, and wasted something on the order of 100-200b of his money, giving us an isk ratio of infinity that's some good postin' there
I'm sure it's more, I couldn't find any mention of it on his blog recently though. Then count the money he gave to TEST directors, mercs and anything else I don't remember. .
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Eyrun Mangeiri
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
24
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Posted - 2014.09.23 17:13:00 -
[323] - Quote
Does every post of Gevlon's blog now include a donate button?
Also, what is so bad about being a toy ;( I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2328
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Posted - 2014.09.23 19:09:00 -
[324] - Quote
Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4277
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Posted - 2014.09.23 20:24:00 -
[325] - Quote
Sigh... The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1343
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Posted - 2014.09.23 22:14:00 -
[326] - Quote
"Almost" only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades, Lucas.
Congratulations on your promotion, Ezwal. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6197
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:17:00 -
[327] - Quote
Notice how almost all of the posts removed are the ones that shoot Gevlon's logic full of holes? Since you're the Rear Admiral now or whatever Ezwal, here's a helpful tip: Just because someone claims to be offended by a post does not mean the post is offensive. Gevlon has openly stated that posts which don't support him are ones that he finds offensive. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
350
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:25:00 -
[328] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Notice how almost all of the posts removed are the ones that shoot Gevlon's logic full of holes? Since you're the Rear Admiral now or whatever Ezwal, here's a helpful tip: Just because someone claims to be offended by a post does not mean the post is offensive. Gevlon has openly stated that posts which don't support him are ones that he finds offensive.
I was just comparing my earning power with Gevlon's spending power, and the fact that my biggest obstacle in ratting are the effing carriers everywhere!!! For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6197
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:27:00 -
[329] - Quote
Amyclas Amatin wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Notice how almost all of the posts removed are the ones that shoot Gevlon's logic full of holes? Since you're the Rear Admiral now or whatever Ezwal, here's a helpful tip: Just because someone claims to be offended by a post does not mean the post is offensive. Gevlon has openly stated that posts which don't support him are ones that he finds offensive. I was just comparing my earning power with Gevlon's spending power, and the fact that my biggest obstacle in ratting are the effing carriers everywhere!!!
Get a ratting carrier then you poor. Also I'm pretty sure people can't claim site types, it's first come first served. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2124
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:31:00 -
[330] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Notice how almost all of the posts removed are the ones that shoot Gevlon's logic full of holes? Since you're the Rear Admiral now or whatever Ezwal, here's a helpful tip: Just because someone claims to be offended by a post does not mean the post is offensive. Gevlon has openly stated that posts which don't support him are ones that he finds offensive. Something like 5 of the posts removed where the ridiculously spergy posts made by a couple of CFC ratters I felt compelled to respond to, so.....can't say I particularly disagree with the moderation in question. Tbh, I've mostly been avoiding posting in this thread because it's been going in circles for a while now.
Also "discussing moderation" and all that. |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
411
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:38:00 -
[331] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Notice how almost all of the posts removed are the ones that shoot Gevlon's logic full of holes?
And such literature was lost that day. It's a conspiracy! Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:39:00 -
[332] - Quote
I genuinely feel bad for ISD Ezwal because he volunteers to read through all of our garbage |
Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
350
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Posted - 2014.09.24 04:11:00 -
[333] - Quote
I just want to post about our valiant resistance to the Gevlon menace! For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6198
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Posted - 2014.09.24 11:08:00 -
[334] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:It's a conspiracy!
Grasping at straws. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2339
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Posted - 2014.09.24 11:29:00 -
[335] - Quote
Amyclas Amatin wrote:I just want to post about our valiant resistance to the Gevlon menace! And you are absolutely free to do so, as long as your post does not break the forum rules. Or, and sometimes this rather important detail seems to be ignored, is in reply to a rule breaking post.
That said, I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category.
ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CyberRaver
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.09.24 12:00:00 -
[336] - Quote
By all means keep funding a orgination that is totally innefective Who kill less goons then we do ourselves Seriously we would spend more in fuel saving a reffed tower then we lose to MOA in a single day
But anyways im sure we will be seeing MOA again soon |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4278
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Posted - 2014.09.24 13:45:00 -
[337] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:And you are absolutely free to do so, as long as your post does not break the forum rules. Or, and sometimes this rather important detail seems to be ignored, is in reply to a rule breaking post. So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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William Ruben
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
57
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Posted - 2014.09.24 14:15:00 -
[338] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:And you are absolutely free to do so, as long as your post does not break the forum rules. Or, and sometimes this rather important detail seems to be ignored, is in reply to a rule breaking post. So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. ? EVE Online: Real Life |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
414
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:51:00 -
[339] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:And you are absolutely free to do so, as long as your post does not break the forum rules. Or, and sometimes this rather important detail seems to be ignored, is in reply to a rule breaking post. So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time?
It's a real life attack guys.
Someone call the UN peacekeepers fast! Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4278
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:20:00 -
[340] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:And you are absolutely free to do so, as long as your post does not break the forum rules. Or, and sometimes this rather important detail seems to be ignored, is in reply to a rule breaking post. So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? It's a real life attack guys. Someone call the UN peacekeepers fast! If you read his blog and several of his comments throughout this forum, he's not saying the characters played by goons are evil, he's saying the players themselves are. He's repeatedly thrown personal attacks at them and Mittani for the past year. So yes, it's real life personal attacks. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6199
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:27:00 -
[341] - Quote
ISD Ezwal is literally ISD Stennson This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6199
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:28:00 -
[342] - Quote
Quick everyone start a forum riot so I have something to do today. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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William Ruben
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
58
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:21:00 -
[343] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:And you are absolutely free to do so, as long as your post does not break the forum rules. Or, and sometimes this rather important detail seems to be ignored, is in reply to a rule breaking post. So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? It's a real life attack guys. Someone call the UN peacekeepers fast! If you read his blog and several of his comments throughout this forum, he's not saying the characters played by goons are evil, he's saying the players themselves are. He's repeatedly thrown personal attacks at them and Mittani for the past year. So yes, it's real life personal attacks. But the Mittani literally eats babies in his Madison penthouse |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
417
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:23:00 -
[344] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:And you are absolutely free to do so, as long as your post does not break the forum rules. Or, and sometimes this rather important detail seems to be ignored, is in reply to a rule breaking post. So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? It's a real life attack guys. Someone call the UN peacekeepers fast! If you read his blog and several of his comments throughout this forum, he's not saying the characters played by goons are evil, he's saying the players themselves are. He's repeatedly thrown personal attacks at them and Mittani for the past year. So yes, it's real life personal attacks.
Ah I see the difference. Let me give it a try.
Ahem.
The character you play in the video game sounds like a total ******* idiot. And your character's idiotic antics only serve to give Goblin the very level of credibility which you are so desperately trying to deny him.
It works! Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6204
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Posted - 2014.09.25 03:28:00 -
[345] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Goblin......... credibility
What he really needs to do is make more posts about how women should be oppressed for their own good. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3666
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Posted - 2014.09.25 04:04:00 -
[346] - Quote
I'd wardec him but he doesn't actually do anything of note in-game. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
301
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Posted - 2014.09.25 04:51:00 -
[347] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? "Goons are evil" is not a troll, it's the consensus opinion. Actually hatred against Goons is something Goons loved: they provoked it and then laughed hard on the impotent rage of their victims. No Goon ever claimed that Burn Jita had any other purpose then making people mad.
The only reason it changes is that Goon hate is no longer impotent. No, I'm not claiming credit here for PASTA destroying PBLRD in PB. Nor with the countless "NPC trash" groups killing 4x more CFC than those who have rational reason to kill CFC (the competing coalitions). I claim credit for the nearly 2T Goons and minions dying in highsec this year though.
You don't want to be hated? Stop being hateful! Stop yelling "pubbie shitlord" to everyone who is not you, stop pogroms against "highsec publords" and don't call your own renters "PBLRD". Maybe have some solidarity with your minions by clicking the same paplinks like them. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
417
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:06:00 -
[348] - Quote
To be fair the only thing Lucas Kell has hurt in game is perhaps an asteroid. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:17:00 -
[349] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? "Goons are evil" is not a troll, it's the consensus opinion. Actually hatred against Goons is something Goons loved: they provoked it and then laughed hard on the impotent rage of their victims. No Goon ever claimed that Burn Jita had any other purpose then making people mad. The only reason it changes is that Goon hate is no longer impotent. No, I'm not claiming credit here for PASTA destroying PBLRD in PB. Nor with the countless "NPC trash" groups killing 4x more CFC than those who have rational reason to kill CFC (the competing coalitions). I claim credit for the nearly 2T Goons and minions dying in highsec this year though. You don't want to be hated? Stop being hateful! Stop yelling "pubbie shitlord" to everyone who is not you, stop pogroms against "highsec publords" and don't call your own renters "PBLRD". Maybe have some solidarity with your minions by clicking the same paplinks like them.
Bullcrap. There is no such consensus opinion as you claim, making all of your similar claims invalid. Playing EVE does not make someone evil.
Besides, by claiming that Goons are evil, you juxtapose your own standing. You have, as you have admitted publicly, tried to emulate some of the activities that Goons are perceived as participants of. Moreover, you have publicly claimed before that commonly perceived Goon play style is something that you fit in perfectly. Therefore, by your own accord, if Goons are 'evil', you are evil.
No wonder why pretty much everyone in the know of EVE's meta currently is laughing at you. Besides constantly shifting goal posts as you constantly fail to achieve objectives, you seem to be unable to keep up any sense of consistency in your false narrative.
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Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:18:00 -
[350] - Quote
Are you suggesting that pubbies don't like being called pubbies even though their very existence is of being a pubbie?
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? "Goons are evil" is not a troll, it's the consensus opinion. Actually hatred against Goons is something Goons loved: they provoked it and then laughed hard on the impotent rage of their victims. No Goon ever claimed that Burn Jita had any other purpose then making people mad. The only reason it changes is that Goon hate is no longer impotent. No, I'm not claiming credit here for PASTA destroying PBLRD in PB. Nor with the countless "NPC trash" groups killing 4x more CFC than those who have rational reason to kill CFC (the competing coalitions). I claim credit for the nearly 2T Goons and minions dying in highsec this year though. You don't want to be hated? Stop being hateful! Stop yelling "pubbie shitlord" to everyone who is not you, stop pogroms against "highsec publords" and don't call your own renters "PBLRD". Maybe have some solidarity with your minions by clicking the same paplinks like them.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
781
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:30:00 -
[351] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Maybe have some solidarity with your minions by clicking the same paplinks like them.
We do click the same paplinks. Shows how much you know.
I would go on about all the things you say about us that are wrong, but I would quickly hit the character limit.
And I guess by some twisted logic you aren't evil, even though you fund people who shoot highsec publords in Jita for fun.
You've already dabbled in the dark side Gevlon. You despise highsec idiots as much as we do. You pay people to gank idiots in Jita just like we do. Give in to evil.
You know you want to. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:31:00 -
[352] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:To be fair the only thing Lucas Kell has hurt in game is perhaps an asteroid.
To be fair, one should first look at his own personal attempts of shifting the meta game so far and take into account the lack of any results, and with that knowledge of clear failure, should consider making claims like the above about the others. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:09:00 -
[353] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:The only reason it changes is that Goon hate is no longer impotent. No, I'm not claiming credit here for PASTA destroying PBLRD in PB. Nor with the countless "NPC trash" groups killing 4x more CFC than those who have rational reason to kill CFC (the competing coalitions). I claim credit for the nearly 2T Goons and minions dying in highsec this year though.
Confirming that Gevlon himself is responsible for At Least 2 trillion in ISK of damage to Goons, as well as sending PBLRD on a downward slope that we cannot recover from.
How can we rid these shackles that is Gevlon's influence of us? |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3672
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:20:00 -
[354] - Quote
Earn up to 20B/month by failing to achieve anything noteworthy in Eve. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3988
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:43:00 -
[355] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Goons are evil" is not a troll, it's the consensus opinion. Bullcrap. There is no such consensus opinion as you claim, it was a popular opinion the few times i've been in rookie help or npc corp chat most everyone else i've known recognises goons as a different group of space nerds in space nerd online, just with a weightier influence. most say about goons "we're so much better at eve than them", but everyone says that about everybody else i don't think the op actually talks to many other players? |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
781
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Posted - 2014.09.25 07:32:00 -
[356] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:...most everyone else i've known recognises goons as a different group of space nerds in space nerd online, just with a weightier influence.
We aren't all fat.
Quote:i don't think the op actually talks to many other players?
He doesn't. He despises most people. Even the ones he gives isk to. Test gave him the boot even though he was paying to hang out with them. Lemmings ditched him out even though he founded them.
He doesn't like most people in Eve, and doesn't talk to them. But he does like to talk about them. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4278
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Posted - 2014.09.25 07:53:00 -
[357] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? "Goons are evil" is not a troll, it's the consensus opinion. Actually hatred against Goons is something Goons loved: they provoked it and then laughed hard on the impotent rage of their victims. No Goon ever claimed that Burn Jita had any other purpose then making people mad. The only reason it changes is that Goon hate is no longer impotent. No, I'm not claiming credit here for PASTA destroying PBLRD in PB. Nor with the countless "NPC trash" groups killing 4x more CFC than those who have rational reason to kill CFC (the competing coalitions). I claim credit for the nearly 2T Goons and minions dying in highsec this year though. You don't want to be hated? Stop being hateful! Stop yelling "pubbie shitlord" to everyone who is not you, stop pogroms against "highsec publords" and don't call your own renters "PBLRD". Maybe have some solidarity with your minions by clicking the same paplinks like them. lol Mate, you hate goons because they are better than you, and you want to launch attack after attack at them through jealousy. Honestly though, your threads should be closed, since you aren't offering content you are just launching personal attack around because you have no idea how to separate a game from reality, as EVE is everything you have in your life.
You can't force people to behave a way you want them to, and I certainly don't think anyone should be taking behavioural advice from you. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2346
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:03:00 -
[358] - Quote
I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.
ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3473
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:17:00 -
[359] - Quote
Heheh didn't even know Gevlon had posted a new thread to scam himself in. Not a bad effort this time, but one day you're going to have to hand it all over in one go and make a graph about how it did something somewhere or something. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3473
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:20:00 -
[360] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote: If you, MoA, and Gevlon want to be taken seriously- drop the "holy war" mentality and just PVP and have fun. Sure, there will always be **** talking from all sides. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Indeed not. I heard stories about some rabble who didn't have just PvP fun and declaread a Holy War on the alliance holding most of nullsec Band of Brothers. I wonder how that went. I guess they were destroyed by the big and powerful BoB. You know the difference you might be missing is the actors involved in these stories actually undocked and shot at people and generally went about and did damage.
BoB would still own most of 0.0 if we thought a good solution to their hegemony was some excel graphs. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1351
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:43:00 -
[361] - Quote
Titan! Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
833
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:55:00 -
[362] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote: If you, MoA, and Gevlon want to be taken seriously- drop the "holy war" mentality and just PVP and have fun. Sure, there will always be **** talking from all sides. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Indeed not. I heard stories about some rabble who didn't have just PvP fun and declaread a Holy War on the alliance holding most of nullsec Band of Brothers. I wonder how that went. I guess they were destroyed by the big and powerful BoB. i too remember how goonswarm beat bob by remedial posting a bounty on bob ratters and then hiding in highsec |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
417
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:55:00 -
[363] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:To be fair the only thing Lucas Kell has hurt in game is perhaps an asteroid. To be fair, one should first look at his own personal attempts of shifting the meta game so far and take into account the lack of any results, and with that knowledge of clear failure, should consider making claims like the above about the others.
What meta/goal post shifting have I done? Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
301
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:32:00 -
[364] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote: You know the difference you might be missing is the actors involved in these stories actually undocked and shot at people and generally went about and did damage.
BoB would still own most of 0.0 if we thought a good solution to their hegemony was some excel graphs.
Someone undocks here. I have 2xAsakai worth of dead CFC to prove it. Also, even with my extraordinary abilities it would be impossible to destroy Goon POCOs while docked. Soon this month is over and we'll see how much ISK the CFC lost due to me not undocking. I'm especially interested in Branch data (hence this topic).
What ruins the Goon narrative is that I have a bunch of data proving that CFC members die and their ratting decreases. You have a bunch of posters yelling "irrelevant". My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
781
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Posted - 2014.09.25 18:28:00 -
[365] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: You have a bunch of posters yelling "irrelevant".
Because it is.
Now, if we were the no life highsec publords that you despise as much as we do, we might care about this. But we also pay people to blow stuff up in Jita so to us it is just more funny content. We laugh at our own dead freighters as much as you do.
Really, you should get this because you are pretty much on the same level of evil as us. You pay people to blow up stuff in Jita, and so do we. You hate the level 4 mission grinders and miners who act like bots as much as us. You totally could have been a CFC member, even a goonwaffe member, if it wasn't for a few misunderstandings on your part.
But keep it up. I'm pretty sure that squad that was camping MoA went on deployment, so MoA should be up to flying around and giving us something to shoot at. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4278
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Posted - 2014.09.25 18:32:00 -
[366] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote: You know the difference you might be missing is the actors involved in these stories actually undocked and shot at people and generally went about and did damage.
BoB would still own most of 0.0 if we thought a good solution to their hegemony was some excel graphs.
Someone undocks here. I have 2xAsakai worth of dead CFC to prove it. Also, even with my extraordinary abilities it would be impossible to destroy Goon POCOs while docked. Soon this month is over and we'll see how much ISK the CFC lost due to me not undocking. I'm especially interested in Branch data (hence this topic). What ruins the Goon narrative is that I have a bunch of data proving that CFC members die and their ratting decreases. You have a bunch of posters yelling "irrelevant". That's a simple question. How much isk did CFC lose to Gevlon: 0 isk. You pay people who already shoot CFC, you can't just automatically claim their entire damage amounts as your own, that's.... Well it's so dumb I don't think they've made a word for it yet. That's Gevlon.
And lets not forget, you continuously avoid the fact that you spend the vast majority of your life thinking about goons, writing about goons, making graphs, grinding isk. All of that and you still can't even make a dent. Must be frustrating. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
834
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Posted - 2014.09.25 18:41:00 -
[367] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote: You know the difference you might be missing is the actors involved in these stories actually undocked and shot at people and generally went about and did damage.
BoB would still own most of 0.0 if we thought a good solution to their hegemony was some excel graphs.
Someone undocks here. I have 2xAsakai worth of dead CFC to prove it. Also, even with my extraordinary abilities it would be impossible to destroy Goon POCOs while docked. Soon this month is over and we'll see how much ISK the CFC lost due to me not undocking. I'm especially interested in Branch data (hence this topic). What ruins the Goon narrative is that I have a bunch of data proving that CFC members die and their ratting decreases. You have a bunch of posters yelling "irrelevant". i presume that, like marmite, you will not compare the results to the baseline because that would reveal that the damage you may have caused is so small it is indistinguishable from random noise |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
417
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Posted - 2014.09.25 20:27:00 -
[368] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: You have a bunch of posters yelling "irrelevant".
Because it is. Now, if we were the no life highsec publords that you despise as much as we do, we might care about this. But we also pay people to blow stuff up in Jita so to us it is just more funny content. We laugh at our own dead freighters as much as you do. Really, you should get this because you are pretty much on the same level of evil as us. You pay people to blow up stuff in Jita, and so do we. You hate the level 4 mission grinders and miners who act like bots as much as us. You totally could have been a CFC member, even a goonwaffe member, if it wasn't for a few misunderstandings on your part. But keep it up. I'm pretty sure that squad that was camping MoA went on deployment, so MoA should be up to flying around and giving us something to shoot at.
You heard it here folks. The goons have stated that the only difference between them and goblin is a misunderstanding.
http://media.giphy.com/media/yhbze3D8QhFe0/giphy.gif Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
781
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Posted - 2014.09.25 21:32:00 -
[369] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote: You heard it here folks. The goons have stated that the only difference between them and goblin is a misunderstanding.
It's funny because it is true. He wanted to join us, but didn't understand the requirements for joining goonwaffe and thought that other corps in our alliance were some how treated as underlings.
The facts are, goonwaffe is fairly easy to join (sticking around with the culture is another issue), and there really is no difference between members of other corps internally. We organize by squad, you can join as many squads as you want, and most squads have little to no requirements to join. He thought that joining WIdot or a crop in FCON would some how leave him out of the inner circle, where it really doesn't matter. They all get mixed together on ops and hang out in the same comms.
And he really wouldn't have had trouble fitting in somewhere in our organization. Like I said, we have also paid others to shoot highsec players, like Burn Jita and Hulkaggedon. We have plenty of members who play the market with an army of highsec alts. Plenty of nearly autistic misanthropic shut-ins. And so on. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
103
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Posted - 2014.09.25 22:36:00 -
[370] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:I have 2xAsakai worth of dead CFC to prove it.
Where exactly is this proof that you directly caused 2xAsakai worth of damage to the CFC?
The argument thus far sounds like "I go to sleep at 8pm therefore the sun sets"
aka "A ratting carrier died today therefore Gevlon blew it up" |
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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
154
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Posted - 2014.09.25 23:08:00 -
[371] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:To be fair the only thing Lucas Kell has hurt in game is perhaps an asteroid. To be fair, one should first look at his own personal attempts of shifting the meta game so far and take into account the lack of any results, and with that knowledge of clear failure, should consider making claims like the above about the others. What meta/goal post shifting have I done?
I haven't seen you specify any goals publicly, therefore I cannot attest to you shifting any goals. But you attempted to influence the meta in the past, if my memory serves me right, to no avail. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6222
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Posted - 2014.09.26 00:24:00 -
[372] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:I have 2xAsakai worth of dead CFC to prove it.
The only thing you've proven is it took a year & hundreds of billions of your isk for other people to do twice the amount of damage that others players did for vastly less isk in a single day. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
417
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Posted - 2014.09.26 02:46:00 -
[373] - Quote
Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:To be fair the only thing Lucas Kell has hurt in game is perhaps an asteroid. To be fair, one should first look at his own personal attempts of shifting the meta game so far and take into account the lack of any results, and with that knowledge of clear failure, should consider making claims like the above about the others. What meta/goal post shifting have I done? I haven't seen you specify any goals publicly, therefore I cannot attest to you shifting any goals. But you attempted to influence the meta in the past, if my memory serves me right, to no avail.
That's a bit vague. Everyone attempts to influence the meta in Eve or they're doing it wrong. Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
773
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Posted - 2014.09.26 02:56:00 -
[374] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: You have a bunch of posters yelling "irrelevant".
Because it is. Now, if we were the no life highsec publords that you despise as much as we do, we might care about this. But we also pay people to blow stuff up in Jita so to us it is just more funny content. We laugh at our own dead freighters as much as you do. Really, you should get this because you are pretty much on the same level of evil as us. You pay people to blow up stuff in Jita, and so do we. You hate the level 4 mission grinders and miners who act like bots as much as us. You totally could have been a CFC member, even a goonwaffe member, if it wasn't for a few misunderstandings on your part. But keep it up. I'm pretty sure that squad that was camping MoA went on deployment, so MoA should be up to flying around and giving us something to shoot at. You heard it here folks. The goons have stated that the only difference between them and goblin is a misunderstanding. http://media.giphy.com/media/yhbze3D8QhFe0/giphy.gif You say that as if this were the first time that it was ever pointed out. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
301
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Posted - 2014.09.26 04:36:00 -
[375] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: And he really wouldn't have had trouble fitting in somewhere in our organization. Like I said, we have also paid others to shoot highsec players, like Burn Jita and Hulkaggedon. We have plenty of members who play the market with an army of highsec alts. Plenty of nearly autistic misanthropic shut-ins. And so on.
Actually I would. I had so much trouble fitting in that I couldn't even join. The main difference is that - I despise people who do stupid stuff - Goons despise people who aren't them This difference isn't immediately visible as there is a huge practical overlap (awful lot of people who do stupid stuff and not Goons). However it's a fundamental difference, similar to "hating Islamic State members" vs "hating muslims". My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
417
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Posted - 2014.09.26 04:40:00 -
[376] - Quote
Aww hell here we go... Hades Effect /-áConflict Resolution /-áPirate Protection |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6229
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Posted - 2014.09.26 05:18:00 -
[377] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:- I despise people who do stupid stuff
This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
782
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Posted - 2014.09.26 05:38:00 -
[378] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: And he really wouldn't have had trouble fitting in somewhere in our organization. Like I said, we have also paid others to shoot highsec players, like Burn Jita and Hulkaggedon. We have plenty of members who play the market with an army of highsec alts. Plenty of nearly autistic misanthropic shut-ins. And so on.
Actually I would. I had so much trouble fitting in that I couldn't even join. The main difference is that - I despise people who do stupid stuff - Goons despise people who aren't them This difference isn't immediately visible as there is a huge practical overlap (awful lot of people who do stupid stuff and not Goons). However it's a fundamental difference, similar to "hating Islamic State members" vs "hating muslims".
I think this is BS.
Some one who can do enough research to make money off the market, or farm billions out of mining missions, could have done the research to get into the CFC without having those sorts of problems. There are plenty of ways to avoid the stupid members, however you define stupid. The levels to which Goons despise the other isn't absolute either, because we have plenty of people in high level positions who aren't technically Goons of the Something Awful Dot Com Forums.
Besides, the bar for being a legitimate Goon isn't very high (we are truly terrible people). If you just sort of kind of wanted to be in Goonwaffe, you could have very easily done it. We didn't become riddled with spies because our standards are too high or our members too obnoxious.
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Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2014.09.26 14:10:00 -
[379] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: And he really wouldn't have had trouble fitting in somewhere in our organization. Like I said, we have also paid others to shoot highsec players, like Burn Jita and Hulkaggedon. We have plenty of members who play the market with an army of highsec alts. Plenty of nearly autistic misanthropic shut-ins. And so on.
Actually I would. I had so much trouble fitting in that I couldn't even join. The main difference is that - I despise people who do stupid stuff - Goons despise people who aren't them This difference isn't immediately visible as there is a huge practical overlap (awful lot of people who do stupid stuff and not Goons). However it's a fundamental difference, similar to "hating Islamic State members" vs "hating muslims".
You mean the something awful forums isn't a wonderful place where you want to spend the rest of your life?
There are other ways in, Mr Billionaire trader. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
302
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:29:00 -
[380] - Quote
Getting in would be trivial with a clean identity not linked to this one. But the thing is that I don't want to sneak in a group that hates my real self (for other reason than awoxing).
I play like a Goon (making ISK, focus on stratops, ignore small gang, ready to sacrifice ISK for a goal, hunt dumb people), but I don't think like one. I don't want to make anyone mad, I want to make dumb and lazy people embarrassed for their pathetic performance and fix it (they rarely do that). I also want to point at them and say "look people, they are responsible for their own fails, stop giving them freebies". What are Goons famous for: giving freebies for their bad members while trying to make everyone else mad.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
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Amyclas Amatin
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:45:00 -
[381] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: What are Goons famous for: giving freebies for their bad members while trying to make everyone else mad.
That's because we're also a kindergarten for new players. Everyone has to learn how to undock and align for the first time.
But yes we also openly admit that we're here to ruin YOUR game if you're not us, allied with us, or renting from us. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
782
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Posted - 2014.09.26 19:22:00 -
[382] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: I play like a Goon ... but I don't think like one.
Haha. No, you play like a Goon because you think like one.
And we give stuff to bad players because they are new players. The idea is for them to focus on getting better are using the spaceship than spending all day grinding for another tech1 frigate and quitting because the entry level isk grinding sucks. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
784
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Posted - 2014.09.27 03:44:00 -
[383] - Quote
I feel that the most disturbing implication in all of this, is that Gevlon is more "Goon" (in the sense of people's perceptions of them) than a lot of the people actually in GSF (myself included).
I would almost be willing to bet that at some point, he finally realizes that his crusade is for naught, he's being ridiculous, fighting himself, transfers his wealth, makes a new main, and joins a GSF pubbie corp. Well, assuming that hasn't happened already, minus the transfer of wealth. |
Aldurald Alland
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:50:00 -
[384] - Quote
so when will you pay the bounties for the month of september ? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6298
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:47:00 -
[385] - Quote
Aldurald Alland wrote:so when will you pay the bounties for the month of september ?
After he spends an entire day or more going through the killmail dumps & running them through his autism calculator. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.10.03 10:52:00 -
[386] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:After he spends an entire day or more going through the killmail dumps & running them through his autism calculator. Actually it's a one-click automated process. The problem is that the kill dumps aren't downloading fast because zkillboard recently implemented a limit to queries/hour. So please be patient. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
198
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:11:00 -
[387] - Quote
From his recent rubbish, it's obvious that he also has a delusion of being taken seriously on top of the other delusion that he has an affect on null-sec. It turns out our leadership is instructing line members about what they should post in forums!
On the other hand, this whole inarbitrary bounty thing which distributes peanuts (20B) every month made me realize that second delusion is very similar to what I would like to exemplify from real life: If everybody had a similar delusion about their own actions, people would be buying a single unit of Microsoft stock and then start babbling about how they managed to dominate the consumer OS market by themselves.
"Oh hey, I bought some Microsoft stock. Now let me tell you about how I'm singlehandedly dominating the the consumer OS market friends!"
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alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:30:00 -
[388] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:After he spends an entire day or more going through the killmail dumps & running them through his autism calculator. Actually it's a one-click automated process. The problem is that the kill dumps aren't downloading fast because zkillboard recently implemented a limit to queries/hour. So please be patient. Please post a tally board for how many hundreds of billions you've spent funneling pvp content into our regions |
Aldurald Alland
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.03 23:22:00 -
[389] - Quote
i like what he does if he actualy pays it(which i think he will), went there because of this "event" killed lots of ur guys in branch and if i get isk for it its even better :D |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6301
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Posted - 2014.10.04 01:02:00 -
[390] - Quote
Aldurald Alland wrote:i like what he does if he actualy pays it(which i think he will), went there because of this "event" killed lots of ur guys in branch and if i get isk for it its even better :D
Except it goes to your corp & since you're in a NPC corp you get nothing. Rekt. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6301
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Posted - 2014.10.04 01:10:00 -
[391] - Quote
Hey guys all the mean goons stopped posting here because they were told to stop. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Aldurald Alland
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:07:00 -
[392] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Aldurald Alland wrote:i like what he does if he actualy pays it(which i think he will), went there because of this "event" killed lots of ur guys in branch and if i get isk for it its even better :D Except it goes to your corp & since you're in a NPC corp you get nothing. Rekt.
yhea because i totaly did it with this 2 days old character, well i could try next time, rookie ship might be enough. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
786
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:25:00 -
[393] - Quote
It's official
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.hu/2014/10/i-dont-want-to-make-people-mad-i-want.html
I am a mouthpiece of The Mittani, The Once and Future Chairman.
A moment for all of you to bask in my glory.
I must admit, I find it amusing to be labeled a "Nice Goon" given that I have been branded "the single worst person in goonwaffe" by the most depraved members of our own directorate. And I cannot help but be touched by being mentioned by the Goblin himself, not just once as a top damage dealer during Burn Jita, but now to have my mug gracing the pages of his blog.
Another pregnant pause to once again soak up that sweet sweet glory.
Since I am now handing out the paplinks for this posting fleet, the orders are to load ~Love~ torpedoes into our bomberless bombers and keep pressing F5.
And twist and turn all you want Gevlon, it's painfully obvious you are trying not to be called a Goon while acting a lot like a Goon. "I just want them to feel embarrassed" isn't very good cover. Mad, sad, ashamed, whatever. You want others to feel bad for being bad. You are just being poetic to hide your own embarrassment.
Also, better toss some more isk to MoA. They lost a carrier in their home system while the rest were off fighting the Goon menace for you. It's time again to show your pets how much you appreciate the hard work they put in for you, even at the cost of the ones they leave to defend their nullsec home. |
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
3739
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Posted - 2014.10.04 09:27:00 -
[394] - Quote
Hey Gevlon,
Look at all these Goons trying to show how they aren't bothered. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
786
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Posted - 2014.10.05 05:56:00 -
[395] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Hey Gevlon,
Look at all these Goons trying to show how they aren't bothered.
You mean hot and bothered?
It's perplexing in a way. Like looking into a mirror, and while the image in the mirror seems to be just like you, it keeps trying to reach out to poke you in the eye and say terrible things about your mom. And while that sounds terrible, you can kind of understand why your reflection is doing it.
Like an alternate universe version of ourselves that is so different it ends up looping around to be eerily like us.
Even this bounty scheme. I swear I've heard of some one setting up a system to automatically scrape the killboards, look for particular kills, and flag a player for receiving and isk reward for their kills.
Oh yah, we did that for Hulkageddon.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4331
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Posted - 2014.10.05 16:52:00 -
[396] - Quote
Aldurald Alland wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Aldurald Alland wrote:i like what he does if he actualy pays it(which i think he will), went there because of this "event" killed lots of ur guys in branch and if i get isk for it its even better :D Except it goes to your corp & since you're in a NPC corp you get nothing. Rekt. yhea because i totaly did it with this 2 days old character, well i could try next time, rookie ship might be enough. So to be clear, you're "hardcore" enough to fly into branch and pick up some kills (to gain what will amount to pocket change at best), yet you're still too scared to post on the forum under your main. I can't imagine you are in a position of power within your corp that would allow you access to the payout if you receive one. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
893
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Posted - 2014.10.06 09:32:00 -
[397] - Quote
Half the members left in September. You need to shovel more money into the furnace if you want to reach YA0 before Christmas
Goonswarm is doing its part. Putting money into the MOA collection plate to insure that future generations of goons may enjoy hunting wild MOAs just as their forefathers did.
Despite our best efforts, the number of Wild MOAs are decreasing at a rapid pace. Goon ornithologists theorize that these timid and elusive creatures can't breed in the captivity of the space station that they have been confined to, and that it may be necessary to bring in a new healthier flock in the future. Once the current one has been hunted to extinction. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2428
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Posted - 2014.10.06 10:11:00 -
[398] - Quote
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
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Eyrun Mangeiri
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
29
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Posted - 2014.10.06 12:28:00 -
[399] - Quote
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Why did MOA bled so many members in September? o_o I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
449
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Posted - 2014.10.06 12:48:00 -
[400] - Quote
Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote: Why did MOA bled so many members in September? o_o
Because they lost every single engagement with European Goonion. And despite hurf about EG blobbing MOA (Darkness and Kadesihi were in the exact same circumstances shortly afterwards), in actual fact MOA usually has more people on field. I guess those members not on crack picked this up and realised MOA is not the elite PVP entity they claim to be and subsequently left.
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Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
162
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Posted - 2014.10.06 13:02:00 -
[401] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I'm busy fighting the evil Goons and their minions (the CFC members) What gives you the impression they are evil? You obviously dislike them but it is unclear exactly WHY. Hopefully you can clarify your point of view. My assumption (IDK if anyone else has put this forward) is that he is a Goon trying to create more content for Goons by paying people to attack Goons. This would also explain how he has all of the Isk to pay people to attack Goons.
IDK though, I might just be paranoid and overthinking things. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
449
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:29:00 -
[402] - Quote
We couldn't have invented him even if we tried. |
Aldurald Alland
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:53:00 -
[403] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote: I can't imagine you are in a position of power within your corp that would allow you access to the payout if you receive one.
you are funny. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.10.06 17:13:00 -
[404] - Quote
The data is processed, post and payment will come tomorrow. Expected better results, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Onward to the next month, let's kill more FCON and PBLRD this time.
Oh and MoA which is "totally destroyed by European Goonion" in the Goon propaganda was once again one of the top Goon killers (beaten by only Marmite and Legion of xXDeathXx) with 112B dead Goonies. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.10.06 17:21:00 -
[405] - Quote
Gevlon pls. 112,000,000,000/35,670 = 3,139,893.47
That 3m isk really hurt that month, heres an idea: pay MOA 3b isk per month, do 3m isk damage to each CFC member.
Solid business plan |
GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
47
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Posted - 2014.10.06 17:55:00 -
[406] - Quote
so goons did 2x more damage to themselves than the elite mordus pvpers you're paying billions to?
looks like another successful gevlon goblin operation |
Eyrun Mangeiri
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
29
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:06:00 -
[407] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:The data is processed, post and payment will come tomorrow. Expected better results, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Onward to the next month, let's kill more FCON and PBLRD this time. Oh and MoA which is "totally destroyed by European Goonion" in the Goon propaganda was once again one of the top Goon killers (beaten by only Marmite and Legion of xXDeathXx) with 112B dead Goonies.
IDK, there is not much difference in the propaganda at all. In the end the goons seem to have more fun, so I think they win I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:07:00 -
[408] - Quote
Bill Gates has $80.6B He is 58 years old and started to work when he was 20, we can say that his yearly average income is $2B. Somalia has $2.4B/year GDP. So Somalia is more rich than Bill Gates.
Goon logic at its finest. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
956
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:17:00 -
[409] - Quote
gevlon did you do your math on the before bounty/after bounty damage in branch i want to calculate exactly how ineffective you were, and your most recent blog is so unreadable i can only conclude it is attempting to make very sure that no reader tries to figure out what the data says and just take your word for it so i can't tell if that's included in there |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
893
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:20:00 -
[410] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Bill Gates has $80.6B He is 58 years old and started to work when he was 20, we can say that his yearly average income is $2B. Somalia has $2.4B/year GDP. So Somalia is more rich than Bill Gates.
Goon logic at its finest.
So your very own comparison to paint yourself as the good guy is that you're Bill Gates paying local mercs to kill Somalians?
You are so bad at this.
You might as well stack all your money in a pile and burn it for all the good will you manage to buy yourself with it.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:52:00 -
[411] - Quote
My favorite part is how he removed CFC from the list of entities that did the most damage to the CFC. Based on his data, we did at least 2 times more damage to ourselves in one day than MoA did to us all month.
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
956
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Posted - 2014.10.06 19:23:00 -
[412] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:My favorite part is how he removed CFC from the list of entities that did the most damage to the CFC. Based on his data, we did at least 2 times more damage to ourselves in one day than MoA did to us all month.
gevlon you can send our isk to "DJ's Retirement Fund" for this damage, thanks. |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.10.06 19:35:00 -
[413] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Bill Gates has $80.6B He is 58 years old and started to work when he was 20, we can say that his yearly average income is $2B. Somalia has $2.4B/year GDP. So Somalia is more rich than Bill Gates.
Goon logic at its finest. Ok using this reasoning requires a new metric. You can do it, I believe in you, engage the autism calculator and figure this out.
I have never lost a ship to Mordus, never lost a ship to Marmite. I am untouchable to them. There are thousands of players like me, in the CFC who your isk has never touched.
What are the percentage of players that your isk has touched in the 35,670 members of the CFC? How do you chart and graph that?
If you cannot chart or graph that, there is no logical way that you can succeeed or win in this endeavor. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.10.07 01:43:00 -
[414] - Quote
September report is up, rewards are paid.
alpha36 wrote:What are the percentage of players that your isk has touched in the 35,670 members of the CFC? How do you chart and graph that? Did something similar a few months ago, finding the exact highsec ship losers would be trivial task.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4331
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Posted - 2014.10.07 10:22:00 -
[415] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:September report is up, rewards are paid.alpha36 wrote:What are the percentage of players that your isk has touched in the 35,670 members of the CFC? How do you chart and graph that? Did something similar a few months ago, finding the exact highsec ship losers would be trivial task. So to be clear, the damage done in branch was terrible and branch ratters ratted over a million rats more, yet you still want to think you are doing something beyond making yourself poor? The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1498
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Posted - 2014.10.07 11:39:00 -
[416] - Quote
Titan. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Leto Thule
Whelp Club
1576
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Posted - 2014.10.07 11:39:21 -
[417] - Quote
Titan.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
157
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Posted - 2014.10.07 12:06:00 -
[418] - Quote
Gevlon,
Look, I'm definitely a fan of taking on the Goons, and I detest their organization just as much as any other good highsec resident. But to put it in economic terms, if you wanted to buy enough Plex to fund the 300 Billion Isk you have spent so far, it would cost you $6,000. Is this campaign really the optimal use of $6,000 worth of Isk? |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
239
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Posted - 2014.10.07 12:06:49 -
[419] - Quote
Gevlon,
Look, I'm definitely a fan of taking on the Goons, and I detest their organization just as much as any other good highsec resident. But to put it in economic terms, if you wanted to buy enough Plex to fund the 300 Billion Isk you have spent so far, it would cost you $6,000. Is this campaign really the optimal use of $6,000 worth of Isk? |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
450
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Posted - 2014.10.07 12:42:00 -
[420] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:The data is processed, post and payment will come tomorrow. Expected better results, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Onward to the next month, let's kill more FCON and PBLRD this time. Oh and MoA which is "totally destroyed by European Goonion" in the Goon propaganda was once again one of the top Goon killers (beaten by only Marmite and Legion of xXDeathXx) with 112B dead Goonies.
Propaganda? I'm in EG and deployed against MOA. They won't even undock if we're logged in. They won't fight us because every time they did we wiped the floor with them. It's now the same with kadeshi and darkness, they won't fight us either.
We're bad at EVE but these shitlers are horrific. |
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
470
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Posted - 2014.10.07 12:42:22 -
[421] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:The data is processed, post and payment will come tomorrow. Expected better results, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Onward to the next month, let's kill more FCON and PBLRD this time. Oh and MoA which is "totally destroyed by European Goonion" in the Goon propaganda was once again one of the top Goon killers (beaten by only Marmite and Legion of xXDeathXx) with 112B dead Goonies.
Propaganda? I'm in EG and deployed against MOA. They won't even undock if we're logged in. They won't fight us because every time they did we wiped the floor with them. It's now the same with kadeshi and darkness, they won't fight us either.
We're bad at EVE but these shitlers are horrific. We even beat them killing ourselves. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
956
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Posted - 2014.10.07 14:50:00 -
[422] - Quote
wow
burn branch was such a failure even gevlon admits it was an utter failure (before the rationalization subroutines kicked in and he came up with a way to justify it despite less kills and more ratting, of course, there's a limit to his ability to recognize his own failure)
that is an impressive level of failure even for gevlon |
Retar Aveymone
Evening Games Club
1021
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Posted - 2014.10.07 14:50:22 -
[423] - Quote
wow
burn branch was such a failure even gevlon admits it was an utter failure (before the rationalization subroutines kicked in and he came up with a way to justify it despite less kills and more ratting, of course, there's a limit to his ability to recognize his own failure)
that is an impressive level of failure even for gevlon |
alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.10.07 16:44:00 -
[424] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Gevlon,
Look, I'm definitely a fan of taking on the Goons, and I detest their organization just as much as any other good highsec resident. But to put it in economic terms, if you wanted to buy enough Plex to fund the 300 Billion Isk you have spent so far, it would cost you $6,000. Is this campaign really the optimal use of $6,000 worth of Isk? 4741.8 EUR |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:07:00 -
[425] - Quote
Oh my gosh, PBLRD just lost like 25 corporations! Gevlon please stop your unholy crusade against the renters- they're just high-sec people like you that want to experience the glory that is nullsec! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
189
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:07:10 -
[426] - Quote
Oh my gosh, PBLRD just lost like 25 corporations! Gevlon please stop your unholy crusade against the renters- they're just high-sec people like you that want to experience the glory that is nullsec! |
Aldurald Alland
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:59:00 -
[427] - Quote
ty gevlon! almost 1 bill for a couple of hours of solo/duo pvp, like it! |
Aldurald Alland
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:59:24 -
[428] - Quote
ty gevlon! almost 1 bill for a couple of hours of pvp, like it! |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.10.08 05:03:00 -
[429] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:Oh my gosh, PBLRD just lost like 25 corporations! Gevlon please stop your unholy crusade against the renters- they're just high-sec people like you that want to experience the glory that is nullsec! They can, in NA. and B0T, without filling the coffers of the Evil!
Aldurald Alland wrote:ty gevlon! almost 1 bill for a couple of hours of pvp, like it! Then come back this month too and kill more for more ISK! My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
312
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Posted - 2014.10.08 05:03:50 -
[430] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:Oh my gosh, PBLRD just lost like 25 corporations! Gevlon please stop your unholy crusade against the renters- they're just high-sec people like you that want to experience the glory that is nullsec! They can, in NA. and B0T, without filling the coffers of the Evil!
Aldurald Alland wrote:ty gevlon! almost 1 bill for a couple of hours of pvp, like it! Then come back this month too and kill more for more ISK!
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
453
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Posted - 2014.10.08 09:25:00 -
[431] - Quote
So last night, Gevlons brave warriors numbering 400+ declined to take on 227 from EG and FA.
You can only make claims about doughnuts and blobs for so long before line members will stop believing the bullshit. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
470
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Posted - 2014.10.08 09:25:59 -
[432] - Quote
So last night, Gevlons brave warriors numbering 400+ declined to take on 227 from EG and FA.
You can only make claims about doughnuts and blobs for so long before line members will stop believing the bullshit. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
134
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:20:00 -
[433] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:They can, in NA. and B0T
You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
189
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:20:51 -
[434] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:They can, in NA. and B0T
You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.10.08 17:39:00 -
[435] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve.
Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
312
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Posted - 2014.10.08 17:39:30 -
[436] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve.
Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
786
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:30:00 -
[437] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve. Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible.
You think the N3 guys are going to be content going back to live on the farm after a lifetime of gallivanting around the map on a whim? |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
800
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:30:56 -
[438] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve. Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible.
You think the N3 guys are going to be content going back to live on the farm after a lifetime of gallivanting around the map on a whim? |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
420
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:14:00 -
[439] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve. Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible. You think the N3 guys are going to be content going back to live on the farm after a lifetime of gallivanting around the map on a whim?
Ratting supers are so not going to be a thing in every system in the dozens.
O wait, no system can support that amount of players. At least 31337 PVPERS will have about 10 expensive target per system in 15 different regions. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
478
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:14:48 -
[440] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve. Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible. You think the N3 guys are going to be content going back to live on the farm after a lifetime of gallivanting around the map on a whim?
Ratting supers are so not going to be a thing in every system in the dozens.
O wait, no system can support that amount of players. At least 31337 PVPERS will have about 10 expensive target per system in 15 different regions. |
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
453
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:43:00 -
[441] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve. Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible.
So you hate the CFC, which has a small rental empire and lives in it's own space but support PL. and NC. Who use the entire galactic east as a rental empire? Logic isn't your strong point.
Btw, EG is still waiting for your scrub alliances to enter system with us, let alone fight. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
470
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:43:44 -
[442] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:You assume there will be NA. and B0T rental programs after the jumpocalypse B0T will be hit hard, but NA. will be OK. It'll need some reshuffle, mixing it up with the various N3 alliances, each one living in and protecting in one region. CFC will try the same, but - well, it doesn't need a psychic to tell how well LAWN will protect Delve. Back to topic: I changed the booking of the Burn Branch project so the kills of the participants are visible.
So you hate the CFC, which has a small rental empire and lives in it's own space but support PL. and NC. Who use the entire galactic east as a rental empire? Logic isn't your strong point.
Btw, EG is still waiting for your scrub alliances to enter system with us, let alone fight. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
312
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Posted - 2014.10.18 03:54:00 -
[443] - Quote
I see some really nice kills on the Branch killboard. This month will be better than last. Join the massacre of FCON and PBLRD and earn money by PvP! My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
312
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Posted - 2014.10.18 03:54:32 -
[444] - Quote
I see some really nice kills on the Branch killboard. This month will be better than last. Join the massacre of FCON and PBLRD and earn money by PvP!
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
885
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Posted - 2014.10.18 04:12:00 -
[445] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:I see some really nice kills on the Branch killboard. This month will be better than last. Join the massacre of FCON and PBLRD and earn money by PvP! When are you gonna stop making threads and do some of your own work?
Must just be lazy blog poster. |
Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
940
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Posted - 2014.10.18 04:12:46 -
[446] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:I see some really nice kills on the Branch killboard. This month will be better than last. Join the massacre of FCON and PBLRD and earn money by PvP! When are you gonna stop making threads and do some of your own work?
Must just be lazy blog poster. |
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
375
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Posted - 2014.10.18 05:35:00 -
[447] - Quote
Saeger1737 wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I see some really nice kills on the Branch killboard. This month will be better than last. Join the massacre of FCON and PBLRD and earn money by PvP! When are you gonna stop making threads and do some of your own work? Must just be lazy blog poster.
Real pvp would take more money than he actually has. It's easier to throw around what seems like a lot of money for one person at poor alliances to make it seem significant. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
472
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Posted - 2014.10.18 05:35:26 -
[448] - Quote
Saeger1737 wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I see some really nice kills on the Branch killboard. This month will be better than last. Join the massacre of FCON and PBLRD and earn money by PvP! When are you gonna stop making threads and do some of your own work? Must just be lazy blog poster.
Real pvp would take more money than he actually has. It's easier to throw around what seems like a lot of money for one person at poor alliances to make it seem significant.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
New Order Diplomat, contact me for all your New Order enquiries!
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
312
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Posted - 2014.11.05 18:56:21 -
[449] - Quote
The October results aren't better, so I paid this month and pulling the plug on this project. The money allocated to this will be better spent in the MoA reimbursement fund.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
472
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Posted - 2014.11.05 20:48:33 -
[450] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:The October results aren't better, so I paid this month and pulling the plug on this project. The money allocated to this will be better spent in the MoA reimbursement fund.
You mean that alliance which replicator left to go work for the CFC instead?
About money... we have more.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
New Order Diplomat, contact me for all your New Order enquiries!
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alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.11.06 06:33:44 -
[451] - Quote
man thats gotta hurt |
Big Lynx
Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno.
721
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Posted - 2014.11.06 07:37:18 -
[452] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:The October results aren't better, so I paid this month and pulling the plug on this project. The money allocated to this will be better spent in the MoA reimbursement fund.
In other words you gonna biomass yourself? Let the corks pop mates!! |
V1P3RR
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:39:43 -
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so GG keeps getting better and better at failing... well , everything |
Syllviaa
Hole Exploitation Inc. Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:16:26 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:The October results aren't better, so I paid this month and pulling the plug on this project. The money allocated to this will be better spent in the MoA reimbursement fund.
lol
RIP Richard A. Butt
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GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:36:41 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:The October results aren't better, so I paid this month and pulling the plug on this project. The money allocated to this will be better spent in the MoA reimbursement fund.
good guys win again! |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
329
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Posted - 2014.11.10 23:16:59 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:The October results aren't better, so I paid this month and pulling the plug on this project. The money allocated to this will be better spent in the MoA reimbursement fund. man who could have predicted that |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
805
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:50:33 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:The October results aren't better, so I paid this month and pulling the plug on this project. The money allocated to this will be better spent in the MoA reimbursement fund. Dearest Gevlon, allow me to take this moment to say the following: Aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. |
Theronth Valarax
V0LTA Triumvirate.
82
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Posted - 2014.11.17 03:52:15 -
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Good you've pulled the plug on this one, indeed MoA does need A LOT of reimbursement Cormorants.
Check out my Youtube channel
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:29:51 -
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This thread has run its course, and is being closed as a troll thread.
Locked.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
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