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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 19:54:00 -
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RA delivers results, and Coalition delivers loot.
Keep up the amazing work, Reds.
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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.05 19:58:00 -
[32]
Build a better server, they'll build a better blob. Better blobs lead to more lag. More lag leads to massive deaths. -Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Heinky
Amarr BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:07:00 -
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While the numbers from this fight are good.
Whats really amazing is that red is still out there fighting for their space, beating on the coalition of "we cant do it alone " alliances.
GJ Red give them hell.
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Ghargon
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ghargon on 05/08/2006 20:13:36
Originally by: Ediz Daxx Edited by: Ediz Daxx on 05/08/2006 18:53:38 Seriously.. whats the reason for posts like this? To boost your already enormous egos or what?
Edit: Oh and give credit to the poor POS too why dont you.. i know you didnt kill 71 BSes.. the POS killed more then half of them...
personally i like these posts, i know that its biased and i know RA use questionable tactics, but they seem to have been having quite good success even though heavily outnumbered. Good job RA Keep it up and keep on informing the rest of us who aren't in the area.
I never think of the future - It comes soon enough |
awwsd
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: awwsd on 05/08/2006 20:21:24 Like it's hard to drop a bubble on the hostiles and procede to snipe them off while under fire of a large pos..
To the people commenting that obviously know nothing of these things - go back and mission ***** :)
damn alt, wtf.
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Drilla
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:26:00 -
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Nice stats considering LV has killed 12 RA battleships last 3 days while loosing 13 ...
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
Kyguard
LFC 3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:27:00 -
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Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics, I have to point out that these sort of complete losses always occur when ASCN is around..
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics, I have to point out that these sort of complete losses always occur when ASCN is around..
That's because mysteriusly theres always so much lag where ascn goes
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Stormhold
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Stormhold on 05/08/2006 20:53:04 Edited by: Stormhold on 05/08/2006 20:52:27 I haven't really been online for last few days, but from previous expiriences I got to say that defending poses is surprisingly easy even when the enemy outnumbers you and your fleet has enough patience to wait for a suitable moment.
What's particularily screwed up, not in this case though, is that unless you maintain a staying 51% or higher moon coverage with large poses, the enemy can quickly attack AND get to defensive mode to defend their own poses.
In some systems like C-J for example it is of course easy to keep full or almost full pos coverage, but in some systems it is far beyond, though in most of those cases the attacker would also need an immense amount of poses to get to this defensive mode.
Oh well, just a random rant. The whole concept of POS warfare at the moment is really sucky.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Nice stats considering LV has killed 12 RA battleships last 3 days while loosing 13 ...
What 3 days are you talking about? Gimme the dates, please. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
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Imode
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:56:00 -
[41]
Gotta love the underdogs.
Go RA! ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes |
Greenhalf
Caldari R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:59:00 -
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Just look this: http://killboard.red-alliance.info/index.php?op=list&shiptype=Dreadnaughts&name=
& this
http://killboard.red-alliance.info/index.php?op=list&shiptype=Carriers&name=
It's a good results? I think. GG RA
Do not trust, be not afraid, do not ask. |
Brain Day
Explode. Now. Please.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:01:00 -
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Go Go RA! And yes indeed, underdogs ftw.
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Fargas
Minmatar RUS Academy Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Nice stats considering LV has killed 12 RA battleships last 3 days while loosing 13 ...
perfect example of lv propaganda
dude, check ra killboard for lv losses, i found 38 killed lv bships there last 3 days i suppose you got your figures from eve-ams, this means your members post about 30% of losses
klik, .... davno pora |
Fubumaki
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:18:00 -
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I can tell you what happened from a coalition Pilots eye view.
OMG Dreads are under attack, warp in to the rescue. coming out of warp................................ oh look, maybe, nope.............................. there is something....... oh its my pod........... Well atleast it was my pod........................ .................................................. Im sure i should have apeared in a station by now.
*checks task manager*
2GB MEMORY LEEK! CTD BSOD -bzzzt-
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 05/08/2006 21:38:29
Originally by: Drilla Nice stats considering LV has killed 12 RA battleships last 3 days while loosing 13 ...
Strangely, but I counted 40 battleships, 8 hacs, 2 command ships and 2 carriers lost by LV only in the last 3 days!
Lies lies Drilla, your propaganda worked for you before but now we won't be silent anymore :D rhymed hehe
edit: spelling
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Rax Kon
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics, I have to point out that these sort of complete losses always occur when ASCN is around..
Yes ascn do have times they loose alot of ships no doubt, but they own some of the best if not the best regions in south 0.0. what does your alliance own?
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rax Kon
Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics, I have to point out that these sort of complete losses always occur when ASCN is around..
Yes ascn do have times they loose alot of ships no doubt, but they own some of the best if not the best regions in south 0.0. what does your alliance own?
Freedom of speech is worth alot these days. Actually i'd trade it for all your ark. --------- Torture by ccp: pic |
Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:55:00 -
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Hmm, I'm replying to this thread because it's the freshest, but I think my point is pretty broad.
From all the info availiable to someone not involved in the RA conflict, I have to ask:
With the current state of POS warfare, why bother?
This conflict proves that when a dedicated force is defending an area, with substantial resources to back up their defence, taking the territory is near impossible.
In this case, it seems RA was outblobbed by 3:1 (quote: "C-J6MT local at this moment was 255 ppl, with about 60-70 RA gang and the rest hostile pilots."). Can't blame them there for "causing lag" I would think. But bubbling a POS siege force is a valid tactic, so is sniping that force w/ POS help.
But the point remains that claiming RA space is a damned hard proposition. I'm not saying that it can't be done, just that it'll take more than what the Coalition has done so far. Game mechanics favor the defender. ASCN (for exaample) would be favored in a defence of their their territory for the same reason, if the defenders were as dedicated as RA is.
Maybe it's time for a territorial truce? Then just shoot each other up when you're in lock range. --
[THARS] is recruiting 1 ebil pirate. Be the one! |
xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:57:00 -
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The game mechanics favor the defender .
First time i've ever heard that.
CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? | Join[..SIN] |
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Poison Beam
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:57:00 -
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Red Alliance (homeless)
seriously guys, you are pathetic.
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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: xeom The game mechanics favor the defender .
First time i've ever heard that.
From all accounts, if the defender is dedicated and has the means to sustain the defence, yes.
Jump drive eliminate the fuel hauling need. The attacking force faces warp-in loading lag. POS towers/guns aren't subject to clent lag. Etc.
I think XZF was the exception that proves the rule. --
[THARS] is recruiting 1 ebil pirate. Be the one! |
Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Poison Beam Red Alliance (homeless)
seriously guys, you are pathetic.
I wonder if you had any effort to earn the place you mine roids in...
- BH |
Drilla
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:10:00 -
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Haha - you walked straight into that trap.
I liked who you are all up about that I under played our losses and didnt notice that I actually posted you lost twice what the OP wrote of RA losses - you can check them yourselves on eve-ams.
I guess both sides play the number game then?
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
Drilla
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: xeom The game mechanics favor the defender .
First time i've ever heard that.
You should get out more then.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/08/2006 22:15:00 For the strong BoB guys in here. We could give you a 1 week vacation in C-J if you want to and you can try your best there. If you are successful, RA can rebuild the towers again and we go on. But just to give you a small hint how it is trying to kill POSs which always come out of reinforcement at your lowest game time and strongest for RA. Shields are boosted in 30 mins with 6 carriers. NP and after DT stron is refueled. 8 hardeners are not a rare at RA POSs. If you want a try, contact me. I will convince the coalition of a 1 week ceasefire with RA so you can have a challenge.
regards
P.S.: This is a game. and a game demands challenges. Are you up for it? x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
-V- Diplomat -V- High Council Member
Life's a waste of time ...
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Haha - you walked straight into that trap.
I liked who you are all up about that I under played our losses and didnt notice that I actually posted you lost twice what the OP wrote of RA losses - you can check them yourselves on eve-ams.
I guess both sides play the number game then?
... ? You are embarassing yourself, please don't try to make this as something you intended to happen :) As the OP told - the losses were taken from LOTKA VOLTERRA KILLBOARD by day 1 of c-j6 siege. Think > post. So if you are blaming someone of inaccuracy you should try blaming your kb, since the stat was taken from there.
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Poison Beam
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Poison Beam Red Alliance (homeless)
seriously guys, you are pathetic.
I wonder if you had any effort to earn the place you mine roids in...
Yes I made a BIG EFFORT and close your big mouth looser I wonder if you want to earn the place when you exploit the complexes
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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:41:00 -
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I've checked the Red Alliance killboard for Coalition losses.
I've checked the Coalition member alliances' killboards for Red Alliance losses.
It's clear that the numbers in the OP are correct, and that Drilla is lying and/or ignorant of the kills posted.
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Altai Saker
Omniscient Order Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:06:00 -
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Who cares eitherway... RA are bad for the game and use the lamest tactics "allowed".
I fully support the coalition, is their anywhere I can make a donation?
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