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Goktar illiat Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:07:00 - [61] Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics hehe you utterly despise someone from a rumour ? nice work RA !
Altai Saker Omniscient Order Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:09:00 - [62] Originally by: Goktar illiat Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics hehe you utterly despise someone from a rumour ? nice work RA ! Having fought them on numerous occasions I can assure you their's no "rumour" about their meagaming tactics.
Kyguard LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:17:00 - [63] Edited by: Kyguard on 05/08/2006 23:21:23 double.. remove this please === God is on the side with the best arti
Kyguard LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:18:00 - [64] Originally by: Rax Kon Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics, I have to point out that these sort of complete losses always occur when ASCN is around.. Yes ascn do have times they loose alot of ships no doubt, but they own some of the best if not the best regions in south 0.0. what does your alliance own? Having the best regions doesn't give you an excuse to lose a ****load of ships, so your point is invalid stupidalt. === God is on the side with the best arti
Walter Model CRICE Corporation Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:19:00 - [65] Good stuff RA
Kyguard LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Goktar illiat hehe you utterly despise someone from a rumour ? nice work RA ! Rumour? Right. RA themselves are proud that they use these kind of tactics so you're either clueless or a fierce brown noser. === God is on the side with the best arti
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:26:00 - [67] Yapp yapp Below is the RA Battleship losses for C-J6MT (not even other systems) for Friday and Saturday alone - and on top of that these are only from the LV and ASCN killboards - havnt bothered checking the rest as you get the pic of the nber accurate numbers in the OP. Besides - siege of C-J started The 2nd. but I guess RA had too many losses the 3rd to admit that. Quote: 2006.08.05-19:12:00 SephiriotH REUNI0N ScorpionC-J6MT 2006.08.05-14:55:00 OSTOR R.u.S.H. Raven C-J6MT 2006.08.04-23:22:00ZoronREUNIONApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-23:20:00MACTEPSolar DragonsApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:37:00StefoudemonRussian SOBRApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:25:00KorshunR.u.S.H.DominixC-J6MT 2006.08.04-19:22:00 Gobluin R.u.S.H. Armageddon C-J6MT 2006.08.04-09:48:00 BarmulR.u.S.H. Tempest C-J6MT 2006.08.04-09:38:00 Faithless F UA Industry Armageddon C-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:25:00KorshunR.u.S.H.DominixC-J6MT Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
DeadDuck Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:33:00 - [68] Originally by: Altai Saker Originally by: Goktar illiat Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics hehe you utterly despise someone from a rumour ? nice work RA ! Having fought them on numerous occasions I can assure you their's no "rumour" about their meagaming tactics. Well has a Ex-RA member ... never saw using those while in gangs with a lot of other RA members...
Goktar illiat Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:36:00 - [69] Originally by: Kyguard Originally by: Goktar illiat hehe you utterly despise someone from a rumour ? nice work RA ! Rumour? Right. RA themselves are proud that they use these kind of tactics so you're either clueless or a fierce brown noser. neither. you just wrote you despised them from a ->supposed<- use of game mechanics. You do understand right ?
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:37:00 - [70] Very nice Coalition! Keep the good work up. They have how many stations now? 1? Thats a damn good job considering how many they once had RA was cool because of CWRA's signatures and ALTZ, section XIII was doing a good job aswell. Where are these corps now

Kyguard LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:42:00 - [71] Originally by: Goktar illiat neither. you just wrote you despised them from a ->supposed<- use of game mechanics. You do understand right ? I put that in because I've never experienced it myself so can't say it's 100% true, but probably 99% since both RA and Coalition say it is done. === God is on the side with the best arti
DeadDuck Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:42:00 - [72] Originally by: Tassi RA was cool because of CWRA's signatures and ALTZ, section XIII was doing a good job aswell. Where are these corps now CWRA is in Geminate region I think, and Section XIII is with one foot in Venal and the other in Tribute
steveid Penetrate	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:48:00 - [73] i clicked on the post title with the full intention of posting that altho i like you guys a lot - who cant like that resiliance under all the pressure - posting day 1 results is just tarded. After reading them I have to once again say wow. I made sure i posted this before i was jaded by the inevitable 3 pages of smacktalking and omgusuck. Great job (again), and my respect for you guys goes up another level. Many more victories like this and i'll hump your leg and become a fully fledged fanboi :D
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:48:00 - [74] Originally by: c0rn1 Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/08/2006 22:17:10 Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/08/2006 22:15:00 For the strong BoB guys in here. We could give you a 1 week vacation in C-J if you want to and you can try your best there. If you are successful, RA can rebuild the towers again and we go on. IF RA is successful defending it, they can have Delve. But just to give you a small hint how it is trying to kill POSs which always come out of reinforcement at your lowest game time and strongest for RA. Shields are boosted in 30 mins with 6 carriers. NP and after DT stron is refueled. 8 hardeners are not a rare at RA POSs. If you want a try, contact me. I will convince the coalition of a 1 week ceasefire with RA so you can have a challenge. regards P.S.: This is a game. and a game demands challenges. Are you up for it? Whoa, where did that one come from fwiw we're gonna keep on going round ****ing everyone off, in the hope that one day someone will pull this stuff with us (whether you believe that is true for all of BoB matters not to me, I can assure you that it is true for myself). We've claimed our space, at some point we may even expand once again, but given that pretty much everyone moans and whines about pos warfare in its current state (can't say I disagree, either) then I don't see why any of BoB would be in any great rush to take part in such a flawed system of combat. You guys kind of have to to achieve the goals you've set for yourselves, we've just gotta chase down goons. tbh, thinking about it, that might not be a bad trade ;)
Devoras2 Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:49:00 - [75] 1 word: Cluster f u c k! Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
Drist Grettistak Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:50:00 - [76] I was in the fight that he speaks of by the pos i lost my ship to the most destructive force in the universe,lag This game is unplayable when big fleets assemple in a system pure and utter nonsence, U just sit there and see your heavily tanked ship go down and theres nothing u can do cause not even 1 mod activates on your ship.and from the time i saw my shields start to go down and until the next frame started to materialise was around 5 minutes,and that frame was my pod. Playing the game under these circumstances is pure and utter nonsence. What is going on CCP? Ive lost to many ships in to many engagements to Lag that the game is starting to get very very very booring. And btw ,what are u guys posting about here off topic? stay in thread
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:53:00 - [77] Originally by: Drilla Yapp yapp Below is the RA Battleship losses for C-J6MT (not even other systems) for Friday and Saturday alone - and on top of that these are only from the LV and ASCN killboards - havnt bothered checking the rest as you get the pic of the nber accurate numbers in the OP. Besides - siege of C-J started The 2nd. but I guess RA had too many losses the 3rd to admit that. Quote: 2006.08.05-19:12:00 SephiriotH REUNI0N ScorpionC-J6MT 2006.08.05-14:55:00 OSTOR R.u.S.H. Raven C-J6MT 2006.08.04-23:22:00ZoronREUNIONApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-23:20:00MACTEPSolar DragonsApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:37:00StefoudemonRussian SOBRApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:25:00KorshunR.u.S.H.DominixC-J6MT 2006.08.04-19:22:00 Gobluin R.u.S.H. Armageddon C-J6MT 2006.08.04-09:48:00 BarmulR.u.S.H. Tempest C-J6MT 2006.08.04-09:38:00 Faithless F UA Industry Armageddon C-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:25:00KorshunR.u.S.H.DominixC-J6MT Really, no need to list one loss twice in that list... So, it then makes it only 9 BS losses for us. The latest BS was lost after the original post. So, the nync didn't include only 2 bs losses, which I honestly think he didn't know about at the moment of his posting. And no, at least I can't see any other BS losses for us on the boards of your fellow coalition members, so your list is complete. Thank you! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Hyllekjeks Celtic Anarchy	Posted - 2006.08.06 00:00:00 - [78] good work ra. Nice to see that you guys never give up Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected]) I mean there is a fun in beeing hated, it puts a fire in your ass and it gets ******* boring to be loved by everyone
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.06 00:24:00 - [79] Edited by: Amthrianius on 06/08/2006 00:24:45 Judging by the -V- scorp's setup in another post, im not suprised they lose so much. There guys prolly don't even know how to warp out when not scrambled ;\| I approve of these update posts I disaprove of the bitter smack coming from LV+-V-'s 10000 Player coalition ---------------
Polydectes Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.06 00:24:00 - [80] Edited by: Polydectes on 06/08/2006 00:24:38 Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Tassi RA was cool because of CWRA's signatures and ALTZ, section XIII was doing a good job aswell. Where are these corps now CWRA is in Geminate region I think, and Section XIII is with one foot in Venal and the other in Tribute No offense to current CWRA members, but it is a shadow of what it once was. All but one of the old directors has left the corp, and everyone that I flew with in CWRA has left. Including the CEO, Warrages who has left eve, and too many others to name. EDIT: We did have kick as sigs, thanks Hugo -------------------------------------------------

Generatorn Amarr The Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.06 00:43:00 - [81] go russians \o/
Broska FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 00:57:00 - [82] Edited by: Broska on 06/08/2006 00:57:50 OMG RA PROPAGANDA!!! RA ARE WINNING THE WAR!! THE COALITION IS DOOMED! DOOMED I SAY!! ALL YOUR BASES BELONG TO RA!!!! EDIT I FORGOT: OMG RA KILLED A NOOB SHIP THE COALITION IS COLLAPSING!!! /sarcasum Yeah tbh it doesn't matter how many kills RA is going to get becauase in the end there on the loosing side. It's also nice to see that RA loss's arn't properly reported but there kills are. I'll leave that to the neutrals to decide why that is. Oh and have fun being wtfpwnd by the coalition RA.
Steve Bennett Crisis Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 01:00:00 - [83] I rarely post in these partizan threads due to the issue of facts being confused, ignored, or misinterpreted - please accept my appology for fanning flames. I'd just like to say that - yes - the numbers look 'bad' for the coalition. However, we went into this seige with the full understanding that its gonna hurt us - and hurt bad. Even still, we managed the dedication and persiverence to press on, knowing that we're going to suffer losses. When Operation Overlord (D-Day) was being planned in 1944, the allies expected 80% casualties from their paratrooper divisions. Even still, their cause was important enough to them (and us) that they went ahead with it anyway. We all knew assaulting deathstars, especially RA built and operated deathstars, was going to results in us hurting. These numbers simply show that we are willing to take a few blows to accomplish our task. It simply says that we have the gonads to lose our ships, and that we're okay with that because we really REALLY want to defeat RA. SB --------
Rax Kon	Posted - 2006.08.06 01:05:00 - [84] Originally by: Kyguard Originally by: Rax Kon Originally by: Kyguard Although I support the Coalition and completely despise RA for their supposed use of game mechanics, I have to point out that these sort of complete losses always occur when ASCN is around.. Yes ascn do have times they loose alot of ships no doubt, but they own some of the best if not the best regions in south 0.0. what does your alliance own? Having the best regions doesn't give you an excuse to lose a ****load of ships, so your point is invalid stupidalt. 1.) not a alt new main with 3 years eve play time (sold old main for isk ) lol who's stupid? 2.) your posting in this thread makes me think you are a poor troll and most likely a child still. 3.) when you are a rich alliance with a ton of ships sitting in the station you tend to get blown up more, care less. and they do more then loose ships they keep there own 0.0 region which takes killing also. guess i could say maybe you will learn some day, but maybe not.
lazyb22 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 01:22:00 - [85] Originally by: nync Edited by: nync on 05/08/2006 18:36:33 On friday morning Coalition + ASCN started to camp system C-J6MT, trying to prevent RED Alliance forses gathering to defend it. Station was camped with 15+ med and small bubbles. At 23:19 Coalition capital fleet , warped to RA POS 2-1 with support of BS fleet. C-J6MT local at this moment was 255 ppl, with about 60-70 RA gang and the rest hostile pilots. In 3 engagements at 2-1 POS Coalition+ASCN forses lost 3 carriers and another 2 near station 30 min later. Enemy dreds retreated to system 1v-. One RA POS was put into reinforsed mode. Hostile Alliances present in system: ERA, LV, -V-, KOS, ASCN. Total losses for both sides from 04.08.2006 till 05.08.2006 DT in C-J6MT and neighboring systems : Coalition + ASCN: (source - Red Alliance killboard) Battleships -71, HAC's - 5, Command ships- 2, Recon ships - 3, Interdiktors - 5. Carriers - 5. RA : ( source - ASCN, -V-, LV, ERA killboards) Battleships - 6, Recon ships - 1, HAC's - 2. I do not count frig, inty and as.frig losses as I don't care. Saying about lag -- it was real bad, after warping to POS I couldn't see anything for about 1 min, locking target - from 1 to 2 min, activating guns -- only on some targets, reloading - 1-2 min. Never saw half ppl called primary, refreshing overview didn't help. Warping out took me about 2 min, was unable to seen friendly POS for about 2-3 min after warping to it. Whilst warping out saw my shield and armor going down, luckily I survived. But still it was a good fight, thks and respect to all involved. RA you the best! This is a good overview of the situation. Great fight RA well executed!! We expect a different outcome next time. Lazyb22
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Fluffy wing Fangs	Posted - 2006.08.06 01:23:00 - [86] In the current game state, it might've become almost irrelevant to count BS losses as losses. A year old player can make the 50M it costs to replace a fully insured BS in 1 hr of agent running or a bit of mining really easily. 71 BS to take down a POS? Pocket change for most alliance, as one BS loss for a single pilot is almost nothing if you have access to either level 4 missions or 0.0 space. If you would strip the list of anything but capships and Tech 2 ships, it would still be an impressive list for RA, but that's what you get when you assault a POS. Taking a POS into reinforced is still quite a feat, even though the coalition took losses. ------------------------------------------ A lapdance is always better when the exotic dancer is crying..
Beyond Horizon Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 02:27:00 - [87] Originally by: Drilla Yapp yapp Below is the RA Battleship losses for C-J6MT (not even other systems) for Friday and Saturday alone - and on top of that these are only from the LV and ASCN killboards - havnt bothered checking the rest as you get the pic of the nber accurate numbers in the OP. Besides - siege of C-J started The 2nd. but I guess RA had too many losses the 3rd to admit that. Quote: 2006.08.05-19:12:00 SephiriotH REUNI0N ScorpionC-J6MT 2006.08.05-14:55:00 OSTOR R.u.S.H. Raven C-J6MT 2006.08.04-23:22:00ZoronREUNIONApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-23:20:00MACTEPSolar DragonsApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:37:00StefoudemonRussian SOBRApocalypseC-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:25:00KorshunR.u.S.H.DominixC-J6MT 2006.08.04-19:22:00 Gobluin R.u.S.H. Armageddon C-J6MT 2006.08.04-09:48:00 BarmulR.u.S.H. Tempest C-J6MT 2006.08.04-09:38:00 Faithless F UA Industry Armageddon C-J6MT 2006.08.04-22:25:00KorshunR.u.S.H.DominixC-J6MT Originally by: nync Total losses for both sides from 04.08.2006 till 05.08.2006 DT in C-J6MT and neighboring systems : Now match the time on your list and the timeline given by the OP. Go ahead and embarass yourself some more please :) Altai Saker, you are clueless kind sir. Your accussations aren't even worth paying attention to. Do you really believe that RA pvpers fly with a thought "OH, I want to cheat, what xploit should I use on this one?" We are just as normal as you are. - BH
DirtyHarry Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.06 03:03:00 - [88] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: c0rn1 Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/08/2006 22:17:10 Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/08/2006 22:15:00 For the strong BoB guys in here. We could give you a 1 week vacation in C-J if you want to and you can try your best there. If you are successful, RA can rebuild the towers again and we go on. IF RA is successful defending it, they can have Delve. But just to give you a small hint how it is trying to kill POSs which always come out of reinforcement at your lowest game time and strongest for RA. Shields are boosted in 30 mins with 6 carriers. NP and after DT stron is refueled. 8 hardeners are not a rare at RA POSs. If you want a try, contact me. I will convince the coalition of a 1 week ceasefire with RA so you can have a challenge. regards P.S.: This is a game. and a game demands challenges. Are you up for it? Whoa, where did that one come from fwiw we're gonna keep on going round ****ing everyone off, in the hope that one day someone will pull this stuff with us (whether you believe that is true for all of BoB matters not to me, I can assure you that it is true for myself). We've claimed our space, at some point we may even expand once again, but given that pretty much everyone moans and whines about pos warfare in its current state (can't say I disagree, either) then I don't see why any of BoB would be in any great rush to take part in such a flawed system of combat. You guys kind of have to to achieve the goals you've set for yourselves, we've just gotta chase down goons. tbh, thinking about it, that might not be a bad trade ;) I think he is just mad that their coalition of 5~ alliances cant organise the logistics to take down some pos' from a single alliance :< Havocide - DirtyHarry
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 03:03:00 - [89] Originally by: Amthrianius No need to cry, honey, Nebba will make it all better. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.08.06 03:05:00 - [90] Edited by: welsh wizard on 06/08/2006 03:06:59 Originally by: Polydectes No offense to current CWRA members, but it is a shadow of what it once was. Aha! Haven't heard that for a while, someone else has earnt the official ATUK "Shadow of their formerselves" accolade I see. Good to see the award is still going strong. ps, Good work RA!



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