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Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:39:00 - [181] Edited by: Chowdown on 06/08/2006 20:39:45 Originally by: Fargas Edited by: Fargas on 06/08/2006 20:32:38 Originally by: Waahoo I was gang warped out along with the other dreads. So if you think you managed to kill my Naglfar because you are so uber then you are indeed uber. Because you did it at 16.2 AUs. Screenshot dude, i was here. you were in siege mode while we were killing that phoenix, and when you started to speed up you was immediately scramled and you never warped away. Mby you used some king of exploit to make this screenshot, dunno. Err evidence please, he has presented his. Where is the POS dump in C-J, save us the trouble of looking. Or do they not trust RUA with such important matters anymore?
Fargas Minmatar RUS Academy Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:42:00 - [182] omg chow, pretty weak attemt to troll already replaced that carrier? there are no RUA poses in c-j6 klik, .... davno pora
Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:44:00 - [183] Edited by: Chowdown on 06/08/2006 20:44:30 Originally by: Fargas omg chow, pretty weak attemt to troll already replaced that carrier? there are no RUA poses in c-j6 Damn that was our only hope. Congrats on the carrier kill.
Mj Pronin Caldari R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:44:00 - [184] Originally by: FREAKZILLA1 Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: FREAKZILLA1 congrats on ur lameness today RA. buhuuu, cry me a river Its a dishonorable exploit that took advantage of poor game mechanics/lag, I am not crying as I am sure that the lost dreads will be replaced. I am simply stating the FACT that your tactics are lame much like your pvp skill in general. Dishonorable to attack with 10/1 advantage. As for the lag- we have 90 pilots in the system. you bring 300+ So you are the ones to use poor game mechanics and create lag. i'm not even stating the fact that you create even more lag when you log in your support fleet after fight starts and this way cause much more pressure on the cluster. As for your loss. Can you prove that is was crash and not lame logoff from your side? Even more- why didt you tell your 300+ comrades over TS that you crashed and was in need of cover? Ask yourself a question why RA covert managed to find your ship quicker and our fleet reacted even more quicker than your own gang? Thinking of this i more than sure that all you saying is lame excuse for your lame logoff. You deserve your punishment. All you can blame- yourself and your lazy fleet for letting you die without providing cover
McDan Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:48:00 - [185] Edited by: McDan on 06/08/2006 20:50:50 Originally by: Mj Pronin Originally by: FREAKZILLA1 Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: FREAKZILLA1 congrats on ur lameness today RA. buhuuu, cry me a river Its a dishonorable exploit that took advantage of poor game mechanics/lag, I am not crying as I am sure that the lost dreads will be replaced. I am simply stating the FACT that your tactics are lame much like your pvp skill in general. Dishonorable to attack with 10/1 advantage. As for the lag- we have 90 pilots in the system. you bring 300+ So you are the ones to use poor game mechanics and create lag. i'm not even stating the fact that you create even more lag when you log in your support fleet after fight starts and this way cause much more pressure on the cluster. As for your loss. Can you prove that is was crash and not lame logoff from your side? Even more- why didt you tell your 300+ comrades over TS that you crashed and was in need of cover? Ask yourself a question why RA covert managed to find your ship quicker and our fleet reacted even more quicker than your own gang? Thinking of this i more than sure that all you saying is lame excuse for your lame logoff. You deserve your punishment. All you can blame- yourself and your lazy fleet for letting you die without providing cover LOL login ay? they were 350km above the pos the whole time. Don't make the mistake of thinking everyone will stoop to your levels.
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:54:00 - [186] Edited by: Amthrianius on 06/08/2006 20:55:00 It shows you at 16+ au because the client sometimes loses sync with the server. This often happens with dread as they get stuck on the slightest things such as drones or other dread's but it doesnt update the client. So you are still there, but stuck on something. No real lag issue just client > server sync issues. Happened to me and my dread a few times, mostly the culprit is drones and it shows me 19au or so with enemy pos still shooting me. So i relog and it warps me back to the enemy pos which means i had never warped out to begin with. ---------------
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:55:00 - [187] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Velios ALL dread losses lost in this way will be petitioned. We will petition the GMs to pop your dreads because we couldn't activate our modules on the jump in, furthermore we had frozen screen for 5 minutes, so in 5 minutes we could take out alot of your dreads, so your dirty exploiting draeds should be popped by GMs :DDDD You're talking of this screenie ? Yes, sure, we generate lag on purpose to warp to a hostile large-pos with our ships and have fun this way. Screenie taken after the first 'engagement'. I'd call this russian server roulette. Not meant as an offense here, but the outcome is as uncertain as in russion roulette. Don't believe that we like to play that with capitals.
Jaabaa Prime Dental Drilling Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:58:00 - [188] Originally by: Mj Pronin As for your loss. Can you prove that is was crash and not lame logoff from your side? Why should a carrier pilot "lamely" logoff at a friendly POS just after jumping into the system with a capital fleet ? Originally by: Mj Pronin Ask yourself a question why RA covert managed to find your ship quicker and our fleet reacted even more quicker than your own gang? I have been asking myself that too ... How can you get scan probes launched (3 of them) AND a full analysis AND warp the cov ops there AND warp the gang to the cov ops AND kill the ship ... ALL in the time it takes for a ship to disappear after crashing without a PVP timer being active ? Care to share the secret with us -- Mini Skill Planner
Shadoo The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:06:00 - [189] Originally by: Mj Pronin As for your loss. Can you prove that is was crash and not lame logoff from your side? Actually, I can provide some footage to that effect . I have the Capitals jumping in on Fraps with 2 crash warping out a little after cynoing in. Of course a fraps will only show them turning & warping to a random place right after cyno-jump, so naturally that won't satisfy your mind that he did not go to take a little break and logged off right after cynoing in with the rest of the fleet . I also have the Moros gank (nice job) on Fraps and the Carrier + 2 Dreads killed while stuck in warp. Going to do some vid editing and post my first flick soon I hope .
Naphtalia Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:06:00 - [190] Edited by: Naphtalia on 06/08/2006 21:08:15 Originally by: Jaabaa Prime Care to share the secret with us 1) 3 coverts starting a scan job every 25seconds 2) alligned fleet should be possible in 40-50sec if you know where the CTD is gonna happen

Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:24:00 - [191] Originally by: La Tortura well, if so, your coverts should have probed your disconnected dreads and your support fleet should have warped to the disconnected dreads. As RA did. btw, someone from LV spoke someday about ships that shouldn't disappear when logged off in enemy space. So it has happened today, CCP hadn't even change their rules. Seems fair for me. Wow, please STFU already. It's pretty clear to me that you haven't the slightest clue about what situations like are like. If they had dreads crashing jumping in, then its pretty unplayable. When it is laggy like this, you can't hope to ove a fleet round, let alone spreadout and get more losses. So please, stfu when you have no idea what you are talking about.
Stormhold FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:46:00 - [192] Originally by: Evengard Originally by: FREAKZILLA1 Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: FREAKZILLA1 congrats on ur lameness today RA. buhuuu, cry me a river Its a dishonorable exploit that took advantage of poor game mechanics/lag, I am not crying as I am sure that the lost dreads will be replaced. I am simply stating the FACT that your tactics are lame much like your pvp skill in general. Ships lost due to lag or non-server related disconnection will not be reimbursed. or non-server related disconnection For me it sounds very server related.
ralphie crom	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:49:00 - [193] seriously folks, all this smack talk makes me realize how many "man babies", actually play eve. how about just shoot each other and then log off when you get sleepy? being on one side of this war, i fail to understand why you girls are slap fighting over every little engagement that we have; just finish the task at hand and hold your tongue already. and lol, when we are overloading the servers with pilots, im not surprised that it becomes unplayable for many. don't make me shoot your eye out and cast you from valhala kid!
Soraya Silvermoon	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:56:00 - [194] Originally by: ralphie crom seriously folks, all this smack talk makes me realize how many "man babies", actually play eve. how about just shoot each other and then log off when you get sleepy? being on one side of this war, i fail to understand why you girls are slap fighting over every little engagement that we have; just finish the task at hand and hold your tongue already. and lol, when we are overloading the servers with pilots, im not surprised that it becomes unplayable for many. don't make me shoot your eye out and cast you from valhala kid! Whining to lag is one thing.. Read up.. What were worked up about is exploits...
Fargas Minmatar RUS Academy Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:59:00 - [195] stfu already you were trying to do login trap and were spanked in process blame yourself for it klik, .... davno pora
ralphie crom	Posted - 2006.08.06 22:00:00 - [196] Originally by: Soraya Silvermoon Originally by: ralphie crom stuff quote] Whining to lag is one thing.. Read up.. What were worked up about is exploits... oh i get it, but still this pointless bickering doesnt solve anything; petition, ***** beer. eventually they will change the jedi syste.....i mean log, wcs, pos mechanics.
Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 22:00:00 - [197] Originally by: Fargas stfu already you were trying to do login trap and were spanked in process blame yourself for it LOL
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 22:19:00 - [198] Originally by: Fargas stfu already you were trying to do login trap and were spanked in process blame yourself for it Would a hug help? Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.06 22:33:00 - [199] Originally by: Mj Pronin As for your loss. Can you prove that is was crash and not lame logoff from your side? u no... the game takes logs of when u crash :\| its not 100% accurate but it shows ;p and it saves it in ur eve folder example: 2006.08.05 18:35:16SHUTDOWN [3692]Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b3913 2006.08.05 18.35.16.dmp 2006.08.04 06:46:31STARTUP [1888] 2006.08.04 06:46:33SHUTDOWN [3352]connection lost but heres an example of how it isnt accurate so dont atke it for being completely true ;p 2006.08.03 21:47:37STARTUP [2808] 2006.08.03 22:05:46SHUTDOWN [2808] 2006.08.04 04:06:15STARTUP [3352] 2006.08.04 06:46:31STARTUP [1888] 2006.08.04 06:46:33SHUTDOWN [3352]connection lost 2006.08.04 06:46:37SHUTDOWN [1888] ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Blitz0r Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 23:15:00 - [200] Originally by: Fargas stfu already you were trying to do login trap and were spanked in process blame yourself for it During my time with LV (which is from the start) The command of logoff and hide has been issued 0 (ZERO) times, i have never heard of such a thing within LV, but i do know that RA uses this a lot.. since we have you in our addressbooks.... when the whole screen goes logoff. or logon.. we always keep our BS support close to our Capital fleets.. usually on grid. M.Corp BPC Packages

Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 00:15:00 - [201] Guys, are you serious or just plainly ...? You are blaming us for attacking your ships, while lately you sole goal is to destroy our alliance at any cost, don't you? We kill as many as we can. How the hell should we know if your pilot just logged off, or crashed? Or shall we start to ask your permission every time we engage your ships, when we are about to attack? Shall we start to ask your permission to jump on you while you are attacking our POS? Shall you ask your permission to use probes to find your ships in space? Do we exploit now the game by using probes? Do we now exploit the game sumply by staying there and fighting back? During a few last days I have seen dozens of your pilots logging off while we were atacking their ships, when they were jumping in or whatever either to save their precious ship or the clone. More and more with every day. Shall we respect you for that? Or are we exploiting the game here as well, because we are not "allowed" to attack your pilots, unless they are in the huge blob and only at certain times when you are 100% ready? You came to our system with large fleet. You pretty well know, that server can't handle this at the moment, but you still try, because you know that only your numbers give you some chance to achieve at least something. So, you must blame yourselves, and yourselves only. Or do you expect us to logoff, or leave the system to let you attack our POS in "peace", so we don't create any extra lag for you? And that nonsense about reimbursement. Will GMs reimburse our losses as well, because numerous pilots in our fleet CTD when we warp on your large fleets? Will GMs reimburse our ships and POSes, because when our pilots CTD it is even worse due to our lesser numbers, since it is impossible to login back in for 2-5 minutes? Will GMs reimburse our POSes if we loose any, because you create enormous lag in the system? Will GMs reimburse our POSes/ships, because you are actively using addressbook exploit? Will GMs reimburse ships to our pilots, who are trying to undock, but the only thing they see is the black screen, and a few minutes later their new clone due to the fact that your fleet creates enormous lag when it is jumping to the station, or staying near the station (it has happened quite a few times already)? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Galeb Minmatar Free Space Pilots aka Banderlogs Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 00:34:00 - [202] Originally by: Pastora Guys, are you serious or just plainly ...? Haha, i so agree with Pastora. I have tried to undock 4 times, just to get out of the station. All I would see is a black screen for 5 min then appear in my new clone... (and i have logs to prove it) so what do we call that now? Lame -V-/KOS station camp exploit? you're such a joke. STFU crybabies.
Taaketa Frist Information Science Security Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.07 00:35:00 - [203] Edited by: Taaketa Frist on 07/08/2006 00:36:53 To summarise this thread now for all the people who just started to read it. The Thread in Brief. RA > "They are shooting us!" Coaltion > "They are shooting us!" PEW PEW PEW smacktalk PEW PEW PEW OMG LAG PEW PEW PEW Smacktalk (Adlib: unidentified posters) The end. edit: In no way do I blame eitherside. I love to watch the smack its like a whole 'other game. -------------- Dang nabit
Selfe Caldari UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 00:37:00 - [204] This thread is just gonna go round and round in circles. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Mj Pronin Caldari R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:18:00 - [205] Read the last post of Pastora. This is exact what i wanted to say. Coalition.If you cannot play under conditions you created in this region so whf you still doing in c-j6? Go play your baby agent running and scord mining in empire. This is war. And winners are never judged. As this morning breaks out it cleary shows who is winning in this region. If you have any possibility to kill enemy- you doing this. And you dont care how you doing this. Only the kill counts. Remember- this is our region and we have nothing to lose and not going anywhere. So you may go on crash losing your capitals, or logoff losing them or whetever your want. As long as we killing them i dont care about your lame reasons why you losing them-save them for your finance representatives if your want your toys to be compencated.
Leo McGarry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:21:00 - [206] Why is anyone trying to engage the Russians in conversation? Its not worth your time.
Skrypt Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:39:00 - [207] Originally by: Mj Pronin Remember- this is our system and we have nothing to lose and not going anywhere. Fixed. ___________
Obivan Efa The Machines	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:42:00 - [208] Originally by: Leo McGarry Why is anyone trying to engage the Russians in conversation? 'cause they can't beat Russians in game ____________________________ Die, but perish! - viking's war-cry
V0rador Amarr Chicago Mobsters Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:45:00 - [209] lack of honor here. Good game RA.
DeadDuck Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:58:00 - [210] Originally by: Mj Pronin Read the last post of Pastora. This is exact what i wanted to say. Coalition.If you cannot play under conditions you created in this region so whf you still doing in c-j6? Go play your baby agent running and scord mining in empire. This is war. And winners are never judged. As this morning breaks out it cleary shows who is winning in this region. If you have any possibility to kill enemy- you doing this. And you dont care how you doing this. Only the kill counts. Remember- this is our region and we have nothing to lose and not going anywhere. So you may go on crash losing your capitals, or logoff losing them or whetever your want. As long as we killing them i dont care about your lame reasons why you losing them-save them for your finance representatives if your want your toys to be compencated. Hey RA survived and thats a victory for sure, but I think that you should calm down in chest beating. The coalition in fact did take almost all your land. And looking at what the RA empire was and what it is now, thats a very big diference.



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