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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.08 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 01/06/2004 21:04:44
www.BIG-EVE.com
Have you ever tried to find enough partners to fund a battleship BP - and failed?
Have you ever thought: "I'm not sure I trust these guys with the original BP - I'll keep my millions"?
Have you ever wondered if there wasnt an easier way?
Now there is
No longer do you need to spend endless hours trying to find enough partners to buy that 'next great' Battleship BP.
Your partner is BIG - no matter which Battleship BP you are looking for shared ownership of.
You have to trust only BIG with your millions - Which many, many hundreds (literally!) of EVEians have already done (BIG Lottery, BIG Championship betting).
What we offer is the following.
You can buy one or more
'1/10th share' of
*ANY*
Battleship Blueprint
No need to wait for partners
BIG is your partner!
Each '1/10th share' of a BP you buy, means you'll get one 1 run BPc each week (ME levels will vary - goal is at least ME5).
You are welcome to buy as many shares as you want, thus increasing the amount of BP's you get per week.
You are welcome to buy shares of different Battleship BP's, all your shares don't need to be tied up in one Battleship BP only.
If only one share is ever sold of, say an Armageddon BP (a mere 66.25M ISK), then BIG will *still* 'pay out' 1 BPc per week to whoever bought that share.
One other advantage, which makes this so very different from other shared BP buys, is that you at *any time* can buy *more* shares!
You are not 'locked' by a rigid agreement with other partners, where the shares are locked.
The real beauty is - If, over time, you buy up all 10 shares of one BP - BIG hands over the original BP to you!
As an example: If it will take you, say 2 months to get enough ISK together, to get your 'dream Battleship BP', why not pay some now, and get access to copies immediately!, and then slowly keep buying more shares, until you finally own it.
It will cost you the same amount of ISK, but you will get the first copies (to either sell or build from) earlier!
If you want your Battleship BP because you want to make money selling copies - consider this:
Each week you will get a BPc that you can sell.
If you just had the money sitting in your wallet, until you could afford to buy the Blueprint Original by yourself, how much money would that make you?
Worth considering!
The price of the individual shares, naturally depends on the BP you are intersted in - as listed below
Cost of '1/10 shares' - Battleship name
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112,50M ISK - Apocalypse (Amarr)
108.75M ISK - Raven (Caldari)
105.00M ISK - Megathron (Gallente)
103.75M ISK - Tempest (Minmatar)
175.00M ISK - Typhoon (Minmatar)
171.25M ISK - Scorpion (Caldari)
166.25M ISK - Armageddon (Amarr)
162.50M ISK - Dominix (Gallente)
Interested parties should mail TornSoul either via ingame mail or (preferred) to [email protected].
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vyperpit
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Posted - 2003.10.08 21:16:00 -
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Gl to you on this TORN.
this sounds great idea wish you the utmost fortune in it as well as your investers.
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Fair Fighting 
Quote stolen from Waagaa Ktlehr who borrowed it from ???
"If you end up in a fair fight, you planned it wrong." (Ehm yeah, or CCP ****ed with the scanner again..) |
Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.08 21:44:00 -
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Sounds really nice, too bad I'm not in the mood to "waste" ~70 of my preeecioussss millions right now 
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Nemiyen
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:02:00 -
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Damn this sounds like the sweetest idea I've seen in a long time  .
Do you have to be a BIG member to be able to join in on this blueprint scheme?
Just wondering, I'm interested 
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Renbo
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:35:00 -
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Nemiyen, Anybody can join this deal, for any number of shares, any battleship, and at any time...
Its really up to you!
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:44:00 -
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The idea sounds cool. Let me ask you a question: 10 people buys shares, which means you will have to make 10 copies a week. Can you do that? Make 10 copies of every BS you have? Just curious.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:52:00 -
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I THINK 1-run battleship copies should take 15/16 hours, not sure... In that case, 10/week is possible from each original. At least in theory.
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Beneb
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Beneb on 08/10/2003 22:54:33
It takes about 15 hours to make a 1 run copy with the right skills of course :)
Beat me by a minute Jarjar :-p
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.10.08 23:31:00 -
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Torn I sent you a second eve mail just look for me online and we will finish deal. Rebootus Interuptus
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Alan Bell
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Posted - 2003.10.08 23:33:00 -
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if 10 ppl buy 1, they can buy anohter original BP
http://coldfusion.online-guild.com |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.09 07:41:00 -
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@Maud Dib
Don't worry, I'll reply to my mails once I get back on.
And don't stress, theres room for everyone
BIG Lottery
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Ameloki
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Posted - 2003.10.09 09:04:00 -
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Can you sell the 1/10 shares back to BIG?
If not, 15% return is not true, as you don't have your original invested money any more.
It means you need at least 6 weeks to break even, that's ages.
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Sushanta Mog
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Posted - 2003.10.09 09:34:00 -
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 Quote:
Can you sell the 1/10 shares back to BIG?
If not, 15% return is not true, as you don't have your original invested money any more.
It means you need at least 6 weeks to break even, that's ages.
Its a sweet deal if you're in it for the ships. If you're in it for the money its a bit more work, but its still a sweet entry to a BS market.
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When you have exhausted all possibilities,
remember this - you haven't.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.09 10:34:00 -
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Arma sells now from 5-8m for 1 single run. That means breaking even could last a bit longer then 6 weeks.
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Tenzo
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Posted - 2003.10.09 12:09:00 -
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Quote:
Arma sells now from 5-8m for 1 single run. That means breaking even could last a bit longer then 6 weeks.
Look at it like this..
Your Corp has 200 million isk in the bank. It is going to take you quite a while to get ~400 mill into the bank to get an original..
You could spend 5-8 mill getting one one run BPc for your corp.. say 10 copies = ~ 60 mill. but that is it. You then go out and get killed by pirates or lose one due to NPC for some reason.. down to 8 BS now.. so u have to go back and buy another 2 copies.. this goes on and u are throwing money away that could be saved up to get an original.
Doing it BIG's way you get a guaranteed supply of BS for as many weeks as u want... when u have enough for your corp u can sell the BPc to make more isk to either buy more shares or get your own original!!
Look to the future, Look at it as an investment for your future
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.09 13:18:00 -
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I don't mean to put you down. The idea is great, in the long run But consider the fact that releasing to many copies on the market will affect the prices.
I wish you luck in your quest
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.10.09 13:19:00 -
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It's a great idea and one of the few i have seen that seemed like a win-win for both sides. Good job BIG.
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Ameloki
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Posted - 2003.10.09 14:18:00 -
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Quote:
Look at it like this..
Your Corp has 200 million isk in the bank. It is going to take you quite a while to get ~400 mill into the bank to get an original..
You could spend 5-8 mill getting one one run BPc for your corp.. say 10 copies = ~ 60 mill. but that is it. You then go out and get killed by pirates or lose one due to NPC for some reason.. down to 8 BS now.. so u have to go back and buy another 2 copies.. this goes on and u are throwing money away that could be saved up to get an original.
Look at it from a financial point of view, trickling in at one 1-run bpc per week is just too slow.. 6-8-10 weeks from now, you have just your money back, so then you haven't even made a single isk, and then money is worth less due to inflation.
I must admit the idea is fresh and good, but not good enough for me, I can make more money with my 60 mil in 10 weeks..
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Tenzo
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Posted - 2003.10.09 14:22:00 -
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so you could have 10 BS in your hanger in ten weeks from your 60 mill plus whatever money you have earned in those ten weeks also?
If u can please please tell me how..
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2003.10.09 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Ryan on 09/10/2003 14:55:09
regarding what my corp member Ameloki was talking about, she was out of line.. we didn't mean to make bad advertisement.. sorry
best of luck on the deal!
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.09 14:50:00 -
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@Ameloki
This is for ppl with ambitions of owning a BS BP, alone *or* together with others.
People of course have various reasons for wanting to own such a BP (pride of ownership, independence of fluctuating market prices, to, over time, make money selling BPc's - etc etc)
If you are one of those - *then* this is for you - else not.
Buying a BS BP (or any other ship BP for that matter) IS a long term 'investment' (or whatever you want to call it).
You just dont make the money back you spend on the BP, wether you own the full BP or a share of it, in a few weeks. It's just not possible.
Of course, 'making back your money', is not always the primary goal of owning a BS BP.
Having 'access' to the print gives you other 'advantages', that cant be measured in money.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.09 16:57:00 -
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Think nothing of it - No offense taken what so ever.
From her PoV, she raised some valid points.
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LordXL
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Posted - 2003.10.09 17:42:00 -
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hmm
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NeXuss
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Posted - 2003.10.09 20:48:00 -
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Just like to also congratulate you on these new & original idea for the EVE economy. Hope you have lots of success with it and some of the smaller corps out there see the potential benefit to themselves.
They can us ethe investment to sell on the BPC and gradually recoup their money or use the Copy to build BS's for their own corp.
As saving up enough money for 1BS a week is about right for some small-mid sized corp its a great investment.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.10 08:04:00 -
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Thank you very much NeXuss
And spot on - we hope this will make it possible for a lot of small/med size corps to enter the BS BP 'market' a lot sooner than they else (if at all) would have been able to.
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Misato Warwick
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Posted - 2003.10.10 09:25:00 -
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once again a great idea from BIG !
*thumbsup*
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Tenzo
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Posted - 2003.10.10 16:50:00 -
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Shameless bump
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Namarus
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:32:00 -
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Absolutely splendid idea!
Nothing to see here .... move along. |
Rosetta
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Rosetta on 10/10/2003 17:35:16
It is a creative idea which I like a lot. The pro obviously is the entry into BS business at 1/10th magnitude. However, there are a few cons:
1) Must trust BIG. If they have been trustworthy in the past that is good, however things can always change for a multitude of reasons. As long as you don't have the original BP in your personal hangar, you are at some risk to lose 100% of your investment.
2) Slightly reduced return. I calculate that BIG is making 7*24/15 - 10 = 1.2 BPC/week of their own on this deal. So they are getting 12% of the action without putting up any money of their own. This is fair enough I think, given they are promoting and managing the deal. However, it is important to remember that the shareholder is only getting 89% of the BPC returns they would with outright ownership.
3) Lack of liquidity. Imo this is the "biggest" con. Since you do not actually control the original BP, you cannot liquidate your holdings in it if you wish to reallocate your capital to other ventures. You are locked in FOREVER unless you buy out the original BP by purchasing the remaining shares. I know lots of former BS manufactures who have sold their unlimited BPCs for one reason or another. Lack of this option is a serious shortcoming.
Those are the cons. Actually I think I might participate myself if #3 was eliminated. BIG, would you be willing to guarantee "buy back" of shares at 100% of purchase price?
Rosetta
Commodity Analytics, Ltd.
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Detaitiv on 10/10/2003 20:53:43
#3: Complete fluidity is a goal, but the likelyhood of achieveing said goal will ultimately depend on total shares sold. It's looking like we will be able to achieve that goal currently but we don't like to make promises we're not postive we can keep.
#2: On the surface it may look like we're going to make a marginal profit from this deal but we will actually count ourselves lucky if we break even. Profit will depend on keeping the bps going 23/7 and with the inevitable human error or random uncalled for bp ejection it is doubtful that will happen.
Damn the generosity of our CEO to the community as a whole, his lottery is one thing...
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Dosh
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Posted - 2003.10.11 02:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dosh on 11/10/2003 02:03:04
Quote:
2) Slightly reduced return... it is important to remember that the shareholder is only getting 89% of the BPC returns they would with outright ownership.
It is important to factor into your oppertunity cost here. Let say one is working toward a 1B ISK original Apoc BP purchase, and let say your corp have a saving rate of 100M per week. Instead of waiting for 10 weeks before you can get the BP, you now can get your ISK working for you on the 1st week instead of the 10th week. Effectively, you are hundred of millions ahead with the BIG Deal!!
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Tenzo
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Posted - 2003.10.11 15:56:00 -
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Heh i might sign up for it now you put it like that Dosh
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Dosh
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Posted - 2003.10.12 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dosh on 12/10/2003 08:32:11
We now have a BIG Deal info page that is viewable with the ingame browser:
http://big.wayland.dk/The_BIG_Deal.asp
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Hideki
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Posted - 2003.10.12 10:27:00 -
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I have to say that thisd is a very good idea from BIG.
And for those worried about BIG runing off with your money...its not gonna happen. I have known the boys in BIG for well over a year now and they are very trsutworthy. There lottery should speak for there trust worthyness.
I spoke in length with Tornsoul last night and gathered some information that ins't posted in that advert. Mainly how much work it actually is, there is alot of bookkeeping involved and other CEO's will be able to sympathise here, he is doing alot of work and deserves the returns that BIG will be getting, also if you dont think that this is a good idea to get your corp into the BB market then you haven't read the post properly, there are no downsides that I can see , if you are going all out on getting a BB BP.
I just have to say Goodluck Tornsoul and BIG, and I will be in touch.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.12 22:05:00 -
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@Hideki
Thank you for the kind words mate
@Rosetta - and many others who have mailed me.
Regarding a 'buy back' policy.
I admit I'm surpriced at how many has asked about this.
My reason for being surpriced is, if you buy a BP from a NPC you dont expect a 'buy back' policy.
Even as a member of a group (having a share) buying a BP, you dont expect a 'buy back' policy.
So I dont quite understand why it is, people think it should be any different with "The BIG Deal".
But so be it.
If that is what people want, then we will try and figure out a way to make that happen (as Detaitiv has already said, we have been giving it some thought)
Another thing we have under consideration is some sort of 'upgrade' policy.
Ie. converting your BP share into a different kind of BP share.
But this is still on the drawing board, with respect to how we would make this possible.
But watch this space - we will post when we have something a bit more concrete than 'we are working on it'
Soon(tm) anyone 
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Tenzo
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Posted - 2003.10.13 16:33:00 -
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*bump* ouch! 
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.10.13 17:38:00 -
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Torn perhaps at least as part of the buy back idea you could offer the shares that someone wants to liquidate to some else who has an interest in the BP. I know that it isn't fool proof by any means but it might be a first option.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.14 07:56:00 -
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Muad Dib - We Would naturally do that no matter what.
The problem arizes when more people wants to get their money back, than new people buying shares.
*Theoretically*, this could mean we'd suddenly have to pay out billions....
And *we* dont have a buy back guarantee, as I doubt the NPC's could care less, if we ended up short for cash 
My biggest concerns is actually people 'exploiting' a buy back policy, by simply 'withdrawing' their money as soon as they got the first (or 2nd or whatever) BPc.
Thus gaining BPc's for free - which I somehow don't see as fair tbh.
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.10.14 15:16:00 -
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Ooo, endless supply of BS BP copies for a nominal expense. And if you didn't want to own the "share" anymore, why not sell it to the highest bidder.
Hey people, this is a "new" EVE commodity!
Ramman out...
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Nemiyen
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Posted - 2003.10.14 16:32:00 -
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Quote:
My biggest concerns is actually people 'exploiting' a buy back policy, by simply 'withdrawing' their money as soon as they got the first (or 2nd or whatever) BPc.
Thus gaining BPc's for free - which I somehow don't see as fair tbh.
What you could do, if you keep very good and precise logs / databases, then you could make it so people can only get a buy-back option when the price on the amount of blueprint copies they have got is less than the amount they spent on the blueprint .
I hope that doesn't sound as complicated as it does to me reading it back lol .
Basically, a share of a blueprint costs say 60 mil, if you give a price to the blueprint copy, lets say 10 mil for this example then they can claim a buy-back option of the shares they own upto the 5'th copy they receive, giving them a buy back option of only 10 mil (because of the 5 bp's they own at a value of 10 mil each).
If someone buys back on the second blueprint (they own 2) then they can buy back an amount of 40 mil.
If they have received 6 blueprint copies then there should be NO buy-back option because obviously they are happy with the arrangement. Not to mention it would be stupid because they would have their 60 mil investment back in the price of the copies and would then be making money from the additional copies they receive
This should be easy to implement with one person owning one share in a blueprint but could become more difficult when they own multiple shares in one blueprint but with adequate databases / information you should be able to work it out .
Not sure how that would work though in practice
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roman
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Posted - 2003.10.14 23:20:00 -
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I had an idea not exactly like this but i think in similar catagory ,you might had read it in general forum .lol i thought it was great idea but unfortunatly very little ppl responed to it .guess nobody trust anybody in this game .maybe your recognised corp name help you in this matter .
Good luck to you guys and hope ppl aprricate your efforts .
Ok just wanted to help you in bumping this post.
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roman
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Posted - 2003.10.14 23:36:00 -
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Ohh sorry forgot to say something as i heard the reaserche done on a bp won't transfer to bpc from next or future patches .just something you consider about .
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Nemiyen
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Posted - 2003.10.15 06:19:00 -
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Lol, no I never read anything like that on the forums I just thought it up myself .
Where did you hear about the copies not transfering the mineral research?
The whole point of a blueprint copy is it's a copy of the original, if the original has mineral research.... and you make a copy.... surely the copy will have mineral research too (like it does now)
What's the point in making copies (or calling it a copy if it's not actually a copy) if the mineral research does not transfer? I've not heard anything about this myself but maybe I missed it? 
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.10.16 03:52:00 -
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bump
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Godless
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Posted - 2003.10.16 12:28:00 -
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Are you sure the non transfer of BP properties is not just a rumor, never seen anything posted re. this.
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roman
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Posted - 2003.10.16 15:15:00 -
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Sorry I shouldn't post it ,my fried had told me about it which i regard him as well informed .he told me he read it in a post from a gm .
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.17 08:41:00 -
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I think he might have confused it with the issue about the unlimited BPc's out there.
I suggest starting up a thread about it, maybe someone can even find the original post, so we can read what it *really* said.
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Regarding "The BIG Deal", we are still considering how to implement a 'buy back' option.
But I'll have to say, that the idea presented by Nemiyen sounds like a good idea.
Most likely thats how it'll be done.
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.10.17 22:43:00 -
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TS, you are being to nice. You should look at it as business deal, not charity.
Allowing a buy back option is double dipping into your good nature at your expense. They get copies at a much cheaper rate and much sooner than otherwise possible, then they get a refund!?
No Buy Back.
I am sure that any honest business man, that isn't trying to take advantage of you, would respect a No Buy Back policy.
Ramman out...
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Maggot
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Posted - 2003.10.18 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Maggot on 18/10/2003 00:57:17
Tornsoul,
Why not just allow the share to be transferrable. A shareholder could sell on their share to another party and you would just update your share register.
This means you dont have to provide any guarantee and the purchaser has a saleable asset.
You have a very interesting scheme and I would probably invest.
Maggot.
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Tenzo
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Posted - 2003.10.18 19:14:00 -
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*trip*
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.19 16:52:00 -
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@Maggot
Shareholders are naturally free to sell their share to someone else.
Another nice feature of The BIG Deal, as opposed to other BP schemes, where you (usually) are 'locked' into the deal forever.
I've already previously in this thread¦, when discussing a 'buy back' option, said that you could always sell off your share to someone else (maybe even for a lower price).
All that it takes is that I get a mail from the 'old' and the 'new' shareholder.
It matters nothing to us, to who we 'pay out' the BPc's.
Should we 'disallow' this, there would be nothing stopping shareholders doing it 'behind our backs' anyhow, by, the 'old' shareholder, simply passing on the BPc's to the 'new' shareholer.
So we are making it easy for everyone, and simply making it an 'official' transfer should anyone wish to do so.
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.10.19 21:09:00 -
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bump for a great idea from someone who does keep his word
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.20 13:20:00 -
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@Muaddid
Thanks for the bump and the vote of confidence.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.21 17:44:00 -
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"The BIG Deal" is an ongoing business, so it is still possible to buy shares.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.22 19:49:00 -
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The BIG is still going strong.
If you have a 'taste' for getting your own BPc's, do read the first post in this thread.
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.10.23 17:20:00 -
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Bump Up 
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.24 16:10:00 -
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A quick update on The BIG Deal, for those that might be courious.
In the last 2 weeks (and a bit) 7 shares has been sold.
An average of one share every other day is far better than what we hoped for, so sofar so good.
Additionally ~5 more interested parties are considering buying one or more shares.
Still to be seen when/if they come up with the money though.
Of the 7 shares sold, 3 are lvl 2 Battleship shares and 4 are lvl 1 Battleship shares.
Feel free to mail me if you have questions about The BIG Deal
Regards
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.26 02:50:00 -
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Up 
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.26 17:44:00 -
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Yup - It's still around
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Capn Blood
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Posted - 2003.10.26 20:26:00 -
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We're scraping cash up atm...hopefully Starbucks Intergalactic will be onboard by the end of the week
Not just a bump
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"Trust no man who says to you that 'The ends justify the means' or who says that 'We will do whatever it takes...'.
These men have no honour, and are fit only to be politicians."
The book of Rab
Chapter 1, Verse 3.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.27 17:00:00 -
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Looking forward to it Capn Blood.
And that BIG Lottery win of yours must be speeding up the process a bit as well
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Gard Coran
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Posted - 2003.10.28 10:37:00 -
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Lucky Bugger isnt he?
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.28 17:19:00 -
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.30 13:16:00 -
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It's still trickling in with new shareholders.
Nice and steady pace
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.10.31 19:00:00 -
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Just a quick update
5 lvl 2 Bship shares sold
5 lvl 1 Bship shares sold
For a total of 10 shares now sold
It's a trickle - but those tend to end up as streams
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.11.01 04:17:00 -
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To the top with the BIG Deal !
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.02 02:45:00 -
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Friendly bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.03 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 03/11/2003 06:34:53
The BIG Deal is still moving along, shares being sold left, right and center.
Remember - Taking part in The BIG Deal means that you wont have to wait for those last pesky shares to be sold (as seen with so many other BP sharing schemes), before the BPc production gets underway.
The 'clock starts ticking' as soon as you have deposited the ISK for the share you are interested in.
Regards
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.11.04 01:47:00 -
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Bump.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.05 08:31:00 -
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13 Shares sold so far.
We reached the 1 billion mark with share #12.
Lets see how long it takes for billion #2
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Humax
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Posted - 2003.11.05 12:38:00 -
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I would just like to add that 1 of those shares was brought by my Corp. (Horizon)
It was a pleasure dealing with TornSoul. We are now looking forward to getting our first BP in a few days time.
Keep up the fantastic work Big and expect some more shares to be sold in this direction.
Regards
Humax
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Havoc1710
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:27:00 -
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A very friendly corp to deal with, TornSoul is very friendly and helpfull.
it is a pleasure to be a part of this deal, and i dont think they could have made it any simpler on the investors end of it.
anyone looking for a Battleship Blueprint deal should think hard about this one, you will all round. you get a constant supply of copies, and yo can also purchase the original in the future.
Ciao
~Havoc
Ceo
Aquitaine Space Conglomerate |
Beldaws
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Posted - 2003.11.06 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Beldaws on 06/11/2003 16:46:45
I should have the money together by this weekend for a share in a level 1 BP.
Just have to get these minerals sold (unless you accept minerals in place of isk??).
What are the current ME levels on the BP's?
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.07 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 07/11/2003 10:17:46
Thank you Humax and Havoc1710.
Happy customers => Happy TornSoul
I have lately been thinking about asking our costumers to do some 'review' posts on The BIG Deal, seems I dont even have to ask for it.
Thanks Guys.
The reason for me wanting to ask, is that several potential customers have asked for references.
But as I've told them, I feel obliged to not reveal any customer names, unless been giving express permission to do so - should go without saying that discretion is part of The BIG Deal.
Also, as I've told them, any reference *I* could give them, could simply be a 'setup', so it's better to 'ask around' instead really.
So once again - Thanks guys for posting.
A quick update:
14 shares sold sofar
6 lvl 2 Battleships
8 lvl 1 Battleships.
@Beldaws
Contact me ingame. EVEmail or convo.
Regards
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.08 22:38:00 -
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Need a bump
Yeah - why not
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.10 23:42:00 -
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Up - For all to see and enjoy
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Havoc1710
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Posted - 2003.11.11 06:32:00 -
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hmm....
a bump sounds good, cause it is a good deal, and rather easy too.
looking at buying my 2nd mega share soon.... just have to sell a hanger full of minerals....
Ceo
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.11.11 21:52:00 -
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Bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.12 09:36:00 -
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Where'd it go
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.13 08:49:00 -
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Still going strong.
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:43:00 -
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Get 'em while the're HOT
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.11.15 06:29:00 -
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bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.16 21:26:00 -
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Still going strong.
17 shares sold:
10 BS lvl 1 shares
7 BS lvl 2 shares
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p4nts
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Posted - 2003.11.18 13:10:00 -
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It only takes 15 hours to make a 1 run copy, and I only get one a week.
Nice try but a P4nts deal, not quite a scam but close
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.18 18:27:00 -
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So you'd want 2 copies a week?
/me hands p4nts a calculator
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Beldaws
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Posted - 2003.11.18 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Beldaws on 18/11/2003 18:40:42
Ummm, P4ants you'd only own 1/10 of a blueprint. The other 9 people that have a share in the blueprint would expect a copy every week too. That's a total of 150 hours out of the 168 hours in a week just to make copies.
And you'd expect more than one copy???
Quote:
It only takes 15 hours to make a 1 run copy, and I only get one a week.
Nice try but a P4nts deal, not quite a scam but close
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p4nts
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:39:00 -
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Ooops!
Forgot about the other 9! My bad
A good deal after all
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.11.19 13:21:00 -
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Yes it does equal a good deal ;-P
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Venture
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Posted - 2003.11.19 13:57:00 -
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I would like to get in on this deal with the Dominix battleship. Please eve-mail me in-game. I am at work ATM and will be on at about 1200 Eve time.
______________________
Ganja Unlimited
Security Director/Fleet Admiral
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.19 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 19/11/2003 15:02:44
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Interested parties should mail TornSoul either via ingame mail or (preferred) to [email protected].
(I know it detracts a bit from the game etc - but RL mail is truly prefered, because of the text size limit on the ingame mails - Some ppl have had that many (detailed) questions, that I've had to make replies in upto 3 parts - which kinda is a pain in the bu**)
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Draig Coch
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Posted - 2003.11.20 00:59:00 -
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Speak to TS about this it's a good deal, and he knows what he is on about...
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FZappa
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Posted - 2003.11.20 08:27:00 -
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it takes about a month to research a BS original to me5+ right ? so inside that timeline the investors will get nothing (?)
or will you supply them with copies from
older better researched and avilable for
copying prints ?
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Velios
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Posted - 2003.11.20 10:21:00 -
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We may be interested in this deal if you have a Tempest Blueprint. I will speak to you in-game before sending a long email. |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 20/11/2003 18:31:24
@FZappa
Research wise there is no advantage to The BIG Deal over other partnership deals, or getting an original yourself.
The time to do research still has to be done - BIG can do a lot of things - But work magic with time we can not
@Velios
Looking forward to it
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.11.20 23:54:00 -
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Quote:
It only takes 15 hours to make a 1 run copy, and I only get one a week.
Nice try but a P4nts deal, not quite a scam but close
Umm.. 15 hours per copy * 10 investors in a BP = 150 hours spent in lab copying each week to produce required copies.
24 hours in a day * 7 days a week = 168 hours.
IF the BP never sat idle while waiting for someone to wake up and put it back in the lab slot, they could technically squeeze one more copy out of the thing per week, but if they gave it to one partner then the other 9 would scream foul. Get real P4nts.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.21 23:04:00 -
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A quick update
Total shares sold : 20
11 lvl 1 shares
9 lvl 2 shares
Interestingly - there are several 'repeat customers' - We must be doing something right
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Maggot
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Posted - 2003.11.21 23:08:00 -
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Just collected my first bpc from Tornsoul. Great customer service.
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.11.21 23:54:00 -
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Should have the money to buy a 2nd share this weekend.
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FZappa
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Posted - 2003.11.22 11:27:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: TornSoul on 20/11/2003 18:31:24
@FZappa
Research wise there is no advantage to The BIG Deal over other partnership deals, or getting an original yourself.
The time to do research still has to be done - BIG can do a lot of things - But work magic with time we can not
so i was right , after paying for the share
there IS 1 month (at least)of getting utterly nothing
for your cash . the return rate for your investment is thus much slower then noted in
your post , which should include this info .
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.22 15:23:00 -
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so i was right
No
Pretty far of actually
If you buy an original yourself, and you dont get a single BPc within "1 month (at least)" - You are doing something very very very wrong....
Please go check up on BP research times - you obviously dont have all the facts. I can recommend EVE-DB.
FYI each shareholder chose for themself how and when they want research done to their share, and when they want to have copies made.
Same as if they had an original themself
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Nemiyen
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Posted - 2003.11.22 15:56:00 -
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So if I got a share in an Apoc blueprint how long would I have to wait to get my first copy? 1 week?
After 1 week what would be the ME on it? Level 0?
This post is confusing me now... I assumed I would just pay the money, wait a week and get a BPC with a ME of 5 or higher because it says: "Each '1/10th share' of a BP you buy, means you'll get one 1 run BPc each week (ME levels will vary - goal is at least ME5).
"
Am I right or are the posts above twisting my mind 
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.11.22 16:04:00 -
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Nemiyen,
Tornsoul will answer you soon with the exact ME level of the Apoc BP.
I am guessing that the Apoc BP is at least ME 3 by now and will be continually researched as the "lack" of demand of shares allows. Getting the ME to L5 is a priority; as it is with all shares.
Thank you for your interest.
Ramman out...
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.24 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 24/11/2003 01:17:17
@Nemiyen
It wont be long before we will have to buy *another* Megathron original (or Scorpion - gonna be interesting to se which ones comes first), because of shareholder demand.
Please tell me how I can ensure that the 11th megathron shareholder get ME5 from day 1, from a freshly purchased Megathron original....
and the 12 and the 13th....
As with good cooking - it takes time to 'get just right', same with BP research
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
"BIG can do a lot of things - But work magic with time we can not"
So No. You do not get ME5 right of the bat.
Impossible to do - we (and thus the shareholders) have to spend time researching the prints - just like everyone else.
The BIG Deal *is not* a shortcut to gain ME levels faster than otherwise
What it is, is:
- A way to get into the BS BP market alot sooner (less ISK) than if doing it on your own.
- A way of not having to look (and wait!) for partners. 'The clock starts ticking' as soon as the ISK hits my wallet!
- A way to have a trusted 'entity' (BIG) supervise the manufacturing and distribution of the prints
Regards
BIG Lottery
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:49:00 -
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bump
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.11.24 18:15:00 -
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Wired the money for my 2nd share last night. Just waiting on confirmation, then I will probably be buying a 3rd share later this week.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.25 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 25/11/2003 17:10:22
Repeat customers = Satisfied customers => Happy TornSoul
We are now up to 22 shares sold, Gravedancers 2nd share being the 21st
9 lvl 2 Battleship shares
13 lvl 1 battleship shares
Scorpion and Megathrons by far still the most popular choises.
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MRPape
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Posted - 2003.11.25 22:55:00 -
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Well how do you make money on the deal? Of course you have too!
**** JUSTICE THOUGH PAIN **** |
Destable
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Posted - 2003.11.25 23:41:00 -
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We at VentureCorp have been very happy with this deal. We signed up almost 6 weeks ago and are getting close to breaking even on the investment. Nice job TornSoul :)
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Havoc1710
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Posted - 2003.11.26 11:36:00 -
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should have enough for my 3rd share in a week or 2.
slowly working my way up to the original, and making plenty of isk along the way.
a great deal if you are looking to get an original, and make money from the copies along the way, instead of trying to save 1 bil isk, and get no rewards along the way...
either that - or look at it in the long run, after 2 months or so, when you have broken even, its an extra 10-15 mil in your pocket per week for nothing :)
Ciao
~Havoc
Ceo
Aquitaine Space Conglomerate
Ceo
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.27 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 27/11/2003 09:37:31
Thank you for the kind words gentlemen.
Over the last week The BIG Deal has 'exploded'.
9 shares sold over the last week!
It seems more and more people are getting their eyes up for the benefits of The BIG Deal.
26 total shares sold.
13 lvl 2 Bship shares
13 lvl 1 Bship shares
And we've reached the 2B mark as well, in a frenzy of buying last night.
If anything, the succes (and yes I'm not afraid to call it a succes) of The BIG Deal, shows that co-operation *is* possible and mutual beneficial in this world of ours.
Thank you to all the shareholders for having confidence in BIG and The BIG Deal.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.27 21:34:00 -
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Did I say 'explode' in my last post..
'Going supernova' seems more appropriate.
3 more shares sold since that post...
For a total of 29 shares sold
13 lvl 2 Bship shares
16 lvl 1 Bship shares
It's truly BIG
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.11.30 14:52:00 -
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Shares are still beeing sold at a breathtaking pace.
We even have one shareholder, who has already managed to buy 5 shares of an individual print.
It's going to be interesting to see if s/he will be the first to obtain their very own original
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.01 09:46:00 -
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The 'Goldrush' is still happening it seems.
32 shares sold...
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.12.01 16:49:00 -
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Will probably be buying shares 6, 7, and 8 in the next week or 2.
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:57:00 -
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Ba Bump
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.12.02 20:19:00 -
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"It works, it really works!"
Way to go Tornsoul!
(me/ makes a note to increase caffine consumption of BIG researchers)
Ramman out...
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.02 22:42:00 -
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Wow...
The word that best describes my feelings the last days.
The BIG Deal is 'going crazy'.
Shares are selling as if theres no tomorrow...
38 shares sold
21 lvl 1 shares
17 lvl 2 shares
I dont know what 'triggered' it, but it's been a 'selling frenzy' the last 2 weeks or so.
For the first month and a half, it was a share every 2 days or so.
Now a days its 2-3-4 *every* day!
Thank you to all the shareholders for believing that The BIG Deal does work.
I truly hope you all manage to buy all 10 shares of your chosen prints!
Sofar the 'record' is 7
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.03 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 03/12/2003 22:36:59
Update
Total of 42 shares sold now
24 lvl 1 shares
18 lvl 2 shares
Yet another 4 share day
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Stevie mcStepherson
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Posted - 2003.12.05 00:21:00 -
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Spent a while chatting to tornsoul about the finer points of the program and happy to say im now saving for a tier 1 bs share!
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.12.05 13:25:00 -
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You know it makes sense
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.07 04:36:00 -
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45 shares sold
19 lvl 2 shares
26 lvl 1 shares
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.12.08 17:55:00 -
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Back to the top baby!
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.09 06:35:00 -
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Good one Rattus
Shares sold : 45
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.12.10 00:53:00 -
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Will be buying shares 8,9, and possibly 10 tonight. I have a question though:
All 7 of my previous shares we were having you research to ME5 before delivering copies, so we have not yet taken delivery of any of the shares. What happens if we bought the last 3 shares tonight, but told you not to research at all... do we get the original tonight ? If so would we get an unresearched original ? I guess that wouldnt be the end of the world as I could have my own research people do the research.
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CowinSpace
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Posted - 2003.12.10 23:09:00 -
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Shameless bump
Keep up the good work.
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To live your life, only once, and in your own sweet time. What more can you ask?
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Salazar N'terre
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Posted - 2003.12.11 00:20:00 -
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hmmmm, I hope you get an answer grave.
bump
"I Live in my OWN LITTLE WORLD....but its okay, they know me HERE!"
Lookin for a good deal on ships check out us at: http://ken.nu/ict/ |
Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.12.11 00:29:00 -
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got an answer last night.. wasnt the one I wanted but was the one I kinda expected..
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Onesien
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Posted - 2003.12.11 18:09:00 -
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i have to give this a bump. I dont have the money to get in on this yet, but it shows that there are great ideas everywhere you look. GREAT JOB BIG!!!!!!!
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Lord Azraiel
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Posted - 2003.12.11 18:57:00 -
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Sweet screaming monkies, this has to be the best deal I have ever heard of! This is where I will go for my tempest needs. You guys at BIG are awesome. Now I just need the money to do this 
"I'm comin' for ya, and Hell's comin' with me!" |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.12 18:06:00 -
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Thank you for the kind words - It's appriciated!
Update
Total shares sold : 52!!!
lvl 1 shares : 20
lvl 2 shares : 32
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.12.15 11:27:00 -
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You know it makes sense!
Battle ships for all
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:12:00 -
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Bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.17 14:59:00 -
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As many has probably experienced, the new changes in EVE (ooc: patch) has ejected all BP's from the lab slots.
BIG's BS BP slots are of course no exception.
I would like to ensure our costumers, that the delay in BS BPc production this has meant, will in no way effect you.
You will recieve your BPc's on schedule.
As we dont live in a perfect world, we have always been aware that some 'hickups' might occur along the way, and we have planned ahead for this, by having a 'buffer' build into our production schedule, to be able to cope with the occasional loss of production time.
That *all* the BS BPo's have been ejected at the same time is of course unprecedented, but luckily our buffer is BIG enough to cope with it
So once again to all our costumors : You will recieve your BPc's on schedule.
BIG Lottery
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:17:00 -
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Back to the top Baby...
above all those WTS skillpacks
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Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2003.12.19 15:59:00 -
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I just became a BIG DEAL investor and would like to say the customer service is outstanding. Thank you BIG.
And back to the top for such a good deal
AWM Homepage, become a #*%^ Flinging Monkey!! |
Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.12.19 18:31:00 -
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bought my 10th share a while back.. looking forward to picking up the original on the 31st.
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Eltigre
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Posted - 2003.12.19 18:44:00 -
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Quote:
@Maud Dib
Don't worry, I'll reply to my mails once I get back on.
And don't stress, theres room for everyone
I tried to join BIG but the sign-up process was down... how can I join ? I have 2 accounts so there are 2 of "me"...
SWEET routinely sells BPC's in Sing Laison and Essence Regions. |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.20 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 20/12/2003 03:19:09
Mail me : You can find my mail here http://www.BIG-EVE.com/contacts.asp
Lets not turn this into a rec thread for BIG (however nice that would be ), but it's the wrong forum for it, and the mods will either move or lock it - Dont want that
@Gravedancer
Grats on that - Youre the first btw , sharply followed by someone the week after
And just in case someone is wondering - Gravedancer gets a BS BPo researched to ME5
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2003.12.20 08:39:00 -
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Up you go
Will try to contact you ingame Tornsoul for a chat. Best of luck.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.12.21 09:20:00 -
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Midwinter bump
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.12.21 09:28:00 -
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Midwinter Bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.23 14:27:00 -
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Anyone saving up for a BS BP share for x-mas?
Currently 58 shares have sold in total.
21 lvl 2 shares
37 lvl 1 shares
Whats really pleasant is that two parties has already secured all of their 10 shares.
I hope we will see more of those in the future.
BIG Lottery
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Jael
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Posted - 2003.12.23 17:52:00 -
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Quote:
As many has probably experienced, the new changes in EVE (ooc: patch) has ejected all BP's from the lab slots.
BIG's BS BP slots are of course no exception.
I would like to ensure our costumers, that the delay in BS BPc production this has meant, will in no way effect you.
You will recieve your BPc's on schedule.
As we dont live in a perfect world, we have always been aware that some 'hickups' might occur along the way, and we have planned ahead for this, by having a 'buffer' build into our production schedule, to be able to cope with the occasional loss of production time.
That *all* the BS BPo's have been ejected at the same time is of course unprecedented, but luckily our buffer is BIG enough to cope with it
So once again to all our costumors : You will recieve your BPc's on schedule.
Shouldn't that be ahead of schedule since all jobs were completed? The research phase would be markedly reduced... just curious. |
Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:13:00 -
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yeah I kind of thought that as well, but wasnt going to say anything in case I was the only one who thought that way.
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BigK
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Posted - 2003.12.23 21:33:00 -
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Quote:
got an answer last night.. wasnt the one I wanted but was the one I kinda expected..
What was the answer, I'm curious now as we are looking to buy 3 more shares, possibly even more sometime in the next few days?
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.12.23 22:04:00 -
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The answer was no. Even though I was willing to just take an unresearched original rather than wait for the final shares to be "researched" to ME5, it would have thrown too much of a monkey wrench into the plan for BIG to do that, so Im waiting patiently till the 31st, which is when im supposed to get the ME5 original. In the mean time im still collecting copies from all my already researched shares.
Not that big an issue (no pun intended). I can kinda see where they are coming from.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.24 11:51:00 -
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Quote:
Shouldn't that be ahead of schedule since all jobs were completed? The research phase would be markedly reduced... just curious.
Most of our BS BPs are making copies.
As all of those where ejected, and it took some time before they got installed again, time was lost.
On the other hand some research completed early.
So we won some time and we lost some time - with the ammount of BP's its impossible to say excatly how much was won or lost - It's a 'gut feeling' that I overall think we've lost time.
The post was simply to ensure that no confusion would arise on the issue of us being able to deliver on time or not.
We pride us self in delivering what we promice.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.12.29 16:42:00 -
[148]
Another milestone has been reached.
5.000.000.000 ISK (5B) worth of shares has now been purchased.
I'm very proud that the EVEians has trusted BIG with that amount of ISK.
Thank you.
BIG Lottery
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Ramman
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Posted - 2003.12.31 15:45:00 -
[149]
bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.01 03:34:00 -
[150]
It's with immense pleasure I can tell that we today (well technically yesterday) has supplied the first shareholder with his Battleship Original ME5.
Another milestone
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.04 05:46:00 -
[151]
And another BPo ME5 lands in the hands of a shareholder
Love it
BIG Lottery
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Lilani Kuzma
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Posted - 2004.01.04 15:40:00 -
[152]
i really dont like your promotional video's
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.06 01:50:00 -
[153]
Edited by: TornSoul on 06/01/2004 04:36:30
And that has what to do with The BIG Deal?
If you feel the need to express your opinion about any promotional stuff BIG has made (like you've done in the past) please do so in the appropriate forum - ty.
This is not a rec thread.
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.10 10:07:00 -
[154]
*bump*
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.13 09:23:00 -
[155]
*bump*
BIG Lottery
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.01.16 12:01:00 -
[156]
Wow! That was a long way down!
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Riana Tabost
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Posted - 2004.01.18 15:15:00 -
[157]
I have just signed on with the BIG Deal.
My growing fascination with all things Minmatar, what ever would my father think?
__________________________________________________________________________
May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart.
Ideas Lab - Reprocessing |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.19 00:55:00 -
[158]
Edited by: TornSoul on 19/01/2004 00:57:24
Expensive fascination
Been awhile since I've done an update, so here goes:
Current totals of The BIG Deal
Total shares sold : 68
27 lvl 2 Bship Shares
41 lvl 1 Bship Shares
2 ME5 BS Originals paid out to shareholders.
Value of shares sold : 5.780.000.000 ISK
BIG Lottery
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.01.21 11:42:00 -
[159]
Bumpable
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2004.01.21 17:23:00 -
[160]
Heh, just noticed i cranked this to 10,000 views.
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Basic truths?
Idiots make us rich.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.22 22:18:00 -
[161]
Another 'milestone number' was reached today.
I'm very pleased to announce that the BIG Deal today paid out it's BPc #250 to a shareholder.
BIG Lottery
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.01.23 00:05:00 -
[162]
Yep our Scorpion BP original we got through the BIG deal (at ME5) is now researched up to ME10 and happily cranking out copies. Will soon be starting investment in another battleship BP.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.24 23:33:00 -
[163]
*bump*
BIG Lottery
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Faux
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Posted - 2004.01.25 10:39:00 -
[164]
hmm give me a couple weeks and i will buy a scorp share... (go figure)
i figure in about 4 months i might be able to get my own bp original...
*shrug*
color me greedy
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.25 20:41:00 -
[165]
You could.... try the BIG Lottery... To speed up the process
Shameless offtopic plug - But hey - It's my thread
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.26 10:18:00 -
[166]
6B ISK mark reached (and then some)
6B = 6.000.000.000 ISK - Lotsa zero's
BIG Lottery
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Megagame
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Posted - 2004.01.26 12:08:00 -
[167]
tron the prefiks to to 1.000.000.000 is G as Giga :)
1.000 = K
1.000.0000 = M
Now I become death, the destroyer of worlds |
Naran Darkmood
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Posted - 2004.01.26 12:28:00 -
[168]
HE meant B = Billion and
M = Million.
On the other hand, you are right Mega
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The following bonuses may be awarded to you:
27 units of Basic Expanded Cargohold at if you complete the mission |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.26 18:19:00 -
[169]
Quote:
tron the prefiks to to 1.000.000.000 is G as Giga :)
All a matter of context
In 'math' you'd be correct.
Using the english language I'm correct.
It's all about the context
Still lotsa zero's though
(6.3B ISK now btw (anyone gonna start the "," vs "." thing ))
BIG Lottery
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Faux
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Posted - 2004.01.28 09:23:00 -
[170]
hmmm how does one do the lottery you got going?
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.01.28 09:45:00 -
[171]
Edited by: RaTTuS on 28/01/2004 09:46:13
Just read the instructions in the lottery link.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.01.30 11:16:00 -
[172]
Hmmm page 6...
BIG Lottery
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:50:00 -
[173]
Many page bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.02.04 00:56:00 -
[174]
Another 'round number' reached for the BIG Deal.
75 shares total sold.
31 lvl 2 shares
44 lvl 1 shares
BIG Lottery
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Dsltnangel
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Posted - 2004.02.04 01:51:00 -
[175]
Sounds like a good idea
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:33:00 -
[176]
75 shares sold would seem to suggest youre not alone thinking that
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.02.11 18:27:00 -
[177]
The BIGDeal is still on
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.02.15 16:28:00 -
[178]
The BIG Deal has yet again paid out a Battleship original to a shareholder who acquired all 10 shares.
This time a Megathron Blueprint Original (researched to ME5).
(to those with Megathron shares - Dont worry, It was not the only Megathron Original we have )
BIG Lottery
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.02.16 16:01:00 -
[179]
shameless BUMP
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Cineas
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Posted - 2004.02.16 16:18:00 -
[180]
Hi a good idea well done.
Shame you don't do it with cruisers, I would be interested in that. I can't really afford the BPC for the Battle ships.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.02.17 02:02:00 -
[181]
We initially considered doing it with cruisers as well.
But wanted to 'test the waters' first with the Bships.
I'm glad we did - It's a paperwork/logistics nightmare doing this tbh... (more than I initially expected)
Adding all the cruisers as well... /me shivers.
BIG Lottery
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TicklePink
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:37:00 -
[182]
WOW...very impressive neuron pathways in that brain of yours...to see how this game(a player evolving and run economy) is changing. I love the concept and more so..I love the fact that "anybody' who is in EVE can participate...correct?...."anybody"?
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.02.19 16:50:00 -
[183]
Correct anyone can 'take part' in The BIG Deal.
The BIG Deal is mostly created in order to allow those else not able, to get a chance of owning (a share at least) of a Bship blueprint.
Everyone else is of course welcome to take advantage of The BIG Deal as well.
Like the BIG Lottery it's a 'non-political' 'thing' (which some CFS members can testify to during the short war between CFS and FA - The BIG Deal was stil honoured)
BIG Lottery
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DeathBunny
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Posted - 2004.02.24 19:16:00 -
[184]
Da Bump
TornSoul if you still got that deal goin, I'd be intrested in some of this deals . If you see this please contact me ingame or i'll try contacting you tonight about it.
Fear The Bunny
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Dreck Morrison
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Posted - 2004.02.24 20:44:00 -
[185]
I would like to offer the following service to those partaking in the BIG Deal: Buying of 1/10 Shares from players that need ISK NOW.
I actually don't know if this is an issue and I bet most of the investors in the BIG DEAL are in for the long run like me, but if anyone needs to raise FAST ISK I am willing to buy thier 1/10 share at 80% of face value for either Amarr battle ship and 60% of face value for others.
Notes and Disclaimers: Myself and my corp. are not affiliated with BIG. This is meant to help out distressed holders and not take anything away from the deal being offered by BIG. I myself am a holder of several 1/10 shares with BIG and am very happy with the service and support provided by TornSoul. I am trying to complete Amarr ship originals and would look at this as a benefit for me (lower cost of a share toward my goal) and someone who has decided that they have enough BPCs and/or fulltime BS building is not for them and they need their ISK for something else. This is not meant to be a burden on TornSoul and transfer of shares requires BIG approval. Last disclaimer - availability to support my offer is limited on my wallet....so if you need to sell multiple shares we may need to negotiate time for me to sell minerals.
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.02.25 16:09:00 -
[186]
Ba Bump
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:26:00 -
[187]
Regarding Dreck Morrison's offer of buying up shares from current shareholders:
I like it - Go for it
Who knows - In a distant(?) future The BIG Deal shares might be traded, just like any other commodity on the market.
I would personally love to see that happen
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.03.01 10:11:00 -
[188]
Last many mails I've gotten (almost) all start with "Is it still possible to buy shares, if so I'd like a.."
The BIG Deal is still alive and well, and rest assured - The BIG Deal is here to stay
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.03.03 01:48:00 -
[189]
It only just occured to me...
With 83 sold shares, we've actually sold enough shares to cover all of the BS BPo's available in EVE - and a bit (as theres 10 shares to each BPo)
Another milestone (bit late with the news but hey )
The 83 shares sold are distributed as follows:
47 lvl 1 BS shares
36 lvl 2 BS shares
Another milestone is that we've passed the 7B ISK mark as well (value of shares sold).
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:58:00 -
[190]
Another milestone for The BIG Deal
I've just paid out BS BPc number 500
BIG Lottery
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jide
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Posted - 2004.03.15 20:09:00 -
[191]
Last weekly evemail says the max duration for the escrow missions is now 7 days.
To me that's really annoying. I don't really want to come to Fricoure every week.
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BigK
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Posted - 2004.03.15 21:12:00 -
[192]
That's the new max length of escrow missions. It's not Big's policy, there is just no other way for them to list it, afaik.
http://www.dc1-defcon1.com |
Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:00:00 -
[193]
Quote:
Last weekly evemail says the max duration for the escrow missions is now 7 days.
To me that's really annoying. I don't really want to come to Fricoure every week.
What was the motivation behind this decision ?
CCP changed the max duration you can set for an escrow mission to 7 days. I think it was to get rid of some of the escrow spam, or at least make it more annoying for the people who do it. Its not BIG's fault.
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jide
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Posted - 2004.03.15 23:35:00 -
[194]
OK, thanks. I must have missed it when I read the patch notes.
Maybe I will have to buy more shares to make the weekly trip to fricoure worthwhile
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.03.16 21:28:00 -
[195]
Trust me, noone is more annoyed about this change to 7 days max than I am...
7 days is simply to short IMO...
Every shareholder have recieved the following text attached to the usual payout mail (and will for a week or so yet)
Quote:
IMPORTANT : Escrow missions now have a max duration of 7 days.
We will not be putting up the prints again, should you fail to pickup the escrow before the time is up, and the print(s) will become BIG property
There are actaully several reason for why I dont want to have to re-make misions.
One reason is the obvious one - It's even more work for me...
Another one is that I have no way of knowing which missions are not picked up... Sadly the wallet entries only tell me that a mission has been collected, but not by who (why is it that with any market transaction the name of thr buyer is in your wallet - but not with escrows )
The effect is, that when a missions times out, the BPc simply lands in my hangar, and I cant croscheck my wallet to see who has picked up their BPc's and who has not.
So someone *could* (not saying any of the shareholder *would*) take advantage of this, and claim they havent picked up their BPc while infact they have... I have no way of knowing.. So I would open up myself to be 'scammed' if I agreed to put up timed out missions again...
So to not 'tempt' anyone in the first place - I prefer to not leave open the option in the first place.
7 days max s.ucks...
BIG Lottery
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:09:00 -
[196]
Many many page bump,
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jimmychopps
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Posted - 2004.03.20 18:22:00 -
[197]
Can you post the mineral efficiency's you have your available BPO shares researched up to? Say I bought a share in an Apoc Megathron or Raven BPO, what ME would my copies be?
-jimmychopps
Not all who wander are lost.
-J.R.R. Tolkien
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.03.21 02:18:00 -
[198]
I know it by now is an impossible long thread to look through - But the question has actually been answered before many times.
There are no shortcuts to ME levels via The BIG Deal.
Everyone has to put in the time to get their share researched - ie. everyone starts at ME0.
Just the other day (4-5 days ago) I had to buy our 3rd Megathron Original, becuase the privious ones where 'sold out' as it where.
How would we be putting out ME x copies from that original right away? Cant be done...
So - Once again : The BIG Deal is *not* a shortcut to ME levels - You'll have to 'sacrifice' the time it takes to research it.
Regards
BIG Lottery
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jimmychopps
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Posted - 2004.03.22 18:33:00 -
[199]
This is a fantastic deal BIG, well done there. I recall a post earlier in which someone offered to buy BIG deal shares at 80% or 60% of their initial sell price. I am also interested in purchasing BIG shares, but I am willing to pay more, based on the ammount of research that has been done on the share. Eve-mail me in game at jimmychopps if you are interested in selling your researched BIG share for any of the eight ships.
-jimmychopps
Not all who wander are lost.
-J.R.R. Tolkien
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Havoc1710
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Posted - 2004.03.26 04:42:00 -
[200]
Another bump for tournsoul, who is always most courteous to deal with.
currently looking to sell my 2 shares, both in the megathron, researched to ME 5.
if anyone is interested, evemail me ingame, preferably with an offer.
Will contact tournsoul soon to see if BIG will act as an intermediary, rather than having to trust me with your money outright.
Cheers,
Havoc
Ceo - Aquitaine Space Conglomerate |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.03.30 09:59:00 -
[201]
For those wondering : Shares have been transfered.
Update on shares:
Lvl 2 Bship : 42 shares
Lvl 1 Bship : 49 shares
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Total shares sold : 91
Very much looking foward to selling that 100th share
BIG Lottery
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Drac Dragnog
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Posted - 2004.03.30 16:27:00 -
[202]
Torn can you mail me ingame the cost per share? I want that hundreth share if I can afford to get it :)
Also How long is the research time per ME level? That way I can plan share purchases accordingly.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.03.31 13:23:00 -
[203]
Drac Dragnog - Simply click The BIG Deal link in my signature for all the prices.
Please also mail me at [email protected] for additional info (the char limit on the ingame one is rather limiting at times...)
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.04.08 22:30:00 -
[204]
Today is the 6 month anniversary of The BIG Deal
The BIG Deal was first announced to the public on 2003.10.08 (see the first post in this thread)
Celebrating The BIG Deal we are 'upgrading' it.
Many (impatient people?) have over time asked if it wasnt possible to get ME5 BPc's straight away without having to invest time researching.
Now you can
For an extra price of roughly 4%-5% you can now get BP ME5 BPc's straight away with The BIG Deal
Tier 2 bships : 25M ISK (per share) ontop of the share price
Tier 1 bships : 15M ISK (per share) ontop of the share price
(We've opted to keep it simple - and have one cost for all of the tier 1 shares and one for all the tier 2 shares.)
If you plan to buy multiple shares (or indeed go for the original over time) - One approach could be to pay the fee for the first one or two shares to 'get of the ground', and then *not* do so on the remaining shares (unless you are constantly running out of prints ofc).
It's entirely up to you, which (and how many) shares you want to start at ME5 or not.
Also - You can do this in any order you wish as well (ie. 'mix&match' shares you start at ME5 or not)
Please note that it *could* occur that we for a particular print (for a limited time) will be unable to offer the 'ME5 straight away' deal.
In the highly unlikely event of this occuring, you will of course be informed of this before any deal is finalized.
(Warning - Math below )
At a first glance this looks like a 20% to 24% extra cost per share (depending on the share)
But it's actually not as bad as that
You have to remember that you are actually getting extra BPc's for the 15M/25M ISK 'fee' - 2.9 extra BPc's to be excact (the amount of BPc's you'll get paid out extra as opposed to waiting for the research)
You are in effect buying 2.9 BPc's with the fee.
This translates to the following price per (extra) BPc
Tier 2 : 8,620,690 ISK
Tier 1 : 5,172,414 ISK
While this is slightly over current marketprices for the prints - It's not by a whole lot.
It's the difference between the above BPc prices and market prices thats the true extra cost, *not* the 15M/25M.
Remember you are making a lot of the 15M/25M back by selling the extra BPc's you get (or if you use them for building - You likewise save some money (=earn) by not having to buy those prints on the market).
But be aware it's ofc still an extra cost - and you should consider carefully if you cant wait for the research to get done instead (That would be my personal choice any day).
But - If you are impatient, you now have the option of getting ME5 prints right away.
BIG Lottery
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.04.14 11:18:00 -
[205]
11 page Bump,
Go on, you know it makes sense.
Best deal in eve.
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Salazar N'terre
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Posted - 2004.04.16 19:17:00 -
[206]
Question: Are the current issues with fountain space going to interupt deals or is it still possible to invest in this great offer without any interuptions?
"I Live in my OWN LITTLE WORLD....but its okay, they know me HERE!"
Lookin for a good deal on ships check out us at: http://ken.nu/ict/ |
Neslo
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Posted - 2004.04.18 11:31:00 -
[207]
Yeah are the issues in fountain affecting the "big deal" and who do we contact if the deal is still going on?
Neslo
4 Horsemen :-)
From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Slam
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:05:00 -
[208]
It's business as usual guys. All the shareholders recieve their regular "harvest".
Contact Tornsoul about getting into the program - though I'm not sure how eager he is to sell more shares.
Remember running this stuff is somewhat taxing on his time.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.04.19 16:59:00 -
[209]
Quote:
Yeah are the issues in fountain affecting the "big deal" and who do we contact if the deal is still going on?
Neslo
4 Horsemen :-)
Uh - been awhile since I've paid attention to this one - bad me...
But... I've been kinda busy with those "issues in fountain"
As Slam has already posted - It's "Business as usual".
Any situation in Fountain (or elsewhere for that matter) has no bearing on The BIG Deal what so ever.
So yes - The BIG Deal is still going on (and will continue to)
Contact point for info regarding The BIG Deal is as always yours truly.
Prefered contact is via email : [email protected]
Secondary via ingame direct convo.
If you *must* you can ofc use the ingame mail as well....
(Could we please get folders for our inbox... I got like 200-400 contacts in there (and no I havent actually counted them) - now that the "sort by unread" is broken its a nightmare... So please dont use it to reach me unless you feel you *have to*)
Ops a bit 'off topic' there... (one of my 'pet grieves' atm...)
Oh and yes we(I) are still glad to sell shares - We are getting very near to that 100th share sold - so dont be shy
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.04.26 20:11:00 -
[210]
The BIG Deal is still alive and kicking.
And still looking to break the "100 shares sold" mark
Getting *very* close now though
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.04.29 01:39:00 -
[211]
The BIG Deal just sold share #100
Read more here : The BIG Deal : Share #100 sold - Always think BIG.
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.05.11 22:35:00 -
[212]
I found it!
The BIG Deal is still alive and kicking.
Shares are selling at a moderate pace - But still selling
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.05.13 03:36:00 -
[213]
I WANT :-)
unfortunatly i dont have the money atm but when i get the money i sure hope this deal will still be active :-)
Paw
Thank You
Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.05.13 14:19:00 -
[214]
The BIG Deal : Millennia Milestone Reached
Yet another Milestone reached for The BIG Deal.
@Paw
Dont you worry, The BIG Deal will be around for you as well
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Riana Tabost
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Posted - 2004.05.17 01:47:00 -
[215]
I currently hold a single share in a Typhoon BP. Due to RL constraints I'm not spending much time in Eve anymore, so I'm looking to sell this share.
The original price was 75M isk. I now ask 50M isk for my share. Please evemail me if you are interseted.
__________________________________________________________________________
May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart.
Ideas Lab - Reprocessing |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.05.20 19:26:00 -
[216]
I'e been looking forward to this day :
The BIG Deal : 10 Billion ISK Milestone Reached
BIG Lottery
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Tion
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Posted - 2004.05.21 06:56:00 -
[217]
Congrats Torn, good work!
Lots of hard work
Go BIG! GO!
Forums = B!tching
Don't be a fool and die for your corp! Let the other sonofab!tch die for his! |
Riana Tabost
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Posted - 2004.05.22 07:29:00 -
[218]
Just a quick note to say my share has already exchanged hands. Thanks to those who eve-mailed me.
Thanks to BIG and TornSoul for the dedication required to maintain such a deal.
__________________________________________________________________________
May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart.
Ideas Lab - Reprocessing |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.06.01 21:06:00 -
[219]
The BIG Deal pays out yet again
The 4th BPo (researched) has been paid out to a shareholder.
BIG Lottery
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Salazar N'terre
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Posted - 2004.06.05 21:03:00 -
[220]
Im interested in being a shareholder, but i have some questions, I sent them via evemail to you. Hopefully you can contact me. I have seen this share thing work with an old corp now dead, Muc took advantage of this, and it worked out.
"I Live in my OWN LITTLE WORLD....but its okay, they know me HERE!"
Lookin for a good deal on ships check out us at: http://ken.nu/ict/ |
Nephilims Eyes
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Posted - 2004.06.05 23:29:00 -
[221]
One day I may have enough to invest and get a tenth of a Megathron and in a few years when I have finally generated that much cash, I will buy one :)
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Tommy Tank
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Posted - 2004.06.06 01:17:00 -
[222]
anyone else looking to sell a share for 50 mill, contact me
scammers dont bother, I will confirm with torn you are a holder
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.06.24 16:10:00 -
[223]
BS BPo #5 and #6 has just been paid out
The BIG Payout : Times two.
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.02 19:40:00 -
[224]
The BIG Deal : 15 Billion ISK milestone
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.02 19:40:00 -
[225]
The BIG Deal : 15 Billion ISK milestone
BIG Lottery
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HaulerGuy
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Posted - 2004.07.06 08:10:00 -
[226]
I gave several jove pieces to BIG, not seen the reported return on my ( admitted minor ) contribution yet.
I am not saying you guys conned anyone( you have always been very trustworthy is my experience ) just wanted to find out what is the return, if any, on this ?
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HaulerGuy
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Posted - 2004.07.06 08:10:00 -
[227]
I gave several jove pieces to BIG, not seen the reported return on my ( admitted minor ) contribution yet.
I am not saying you guys conned anyone( you have always been very trustworthy is my experience ) just wanted to find out what is the return, if any, on this ?
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:57:00 -
[228]
Wrong thread
Please try either of
The BIG Jovian Body Parts Gathering - Final analysis
The BIG Jovian Body Parts Gathering
and uhm... I dont see your name in the list of contributors...?
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.06 14:57:00 -
[229]
Wrong thread
Please try either of
The BIG Jovian Body Parts Gathering - Final analysis
The BIG Jovian Body Parts Gathering
and uhm... I dont see your name in the list of contributors...?
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.19 20:58:00 -
[230]
BS BPo #7 changes hands : The BIG Deal pays of yet again
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.19 20:58:00 -
[231]
BS BPo #7 changes hands : The BIG Deal pays of yet again
BIG Lottery
[u |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:19:00 -
[232]
BS BPo #8 changes hands : The BIG Deal pays out BPo #8
BIG Lottery
[u |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:19:00 -
[233]
BS BPo #8 changes hands : The BIG Deal pays out BPo #8
BIG Lottery
[u |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.26 11:18:00 -
[234]
The BIG Deal : 20 Billion ISK milestone
BIG Lottery
[u |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.26 11:18:00 -
[235]
The BIG Deal : 20 Billion ISK milestone
BIG Lottery
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.07.29 23:03:00 -
[236]
E-mailed a couple of questions before i hand over my (possibly) hard earned ISKs
plus a bump never hurt anyone
<><><><>
Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.07.29 23:03:00 -
[237]
E-mailed a couple of questions before i hand over my (possibly) hard earned ISKs
plus a bump never hurt anyone
<><><><>
Freelancing Corp |
Ms Lab2004
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Posted - 2004.07.30 08:53:00 -
[238]
Frendly bump |
Ms Lab2004
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Posted - 2004.07.30 08:53:00 -
[239]
Frendly bump |
Dri Kulsane
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Posted - 2004.07.30 10:16:00 -
[240]
I think it's about time we got in on this deal
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Dri Kulsane
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Posted - 2004.07.30 10:16:00 -
[241]
I think it's about time we got in on this deal
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.30 14:15:00 -
[242]
I'd like to clear up one of the most common misconceptions about The BIG Deal.
The (sofar) 20 Billion ISK is not 'owned' by BIG - ie. it's not the 'property of BIG'.
It's the property of the shareholders - BIG doesnt see as much as 1 ISK of the 20 Billion ISK.
It's *all* invested in more Battleship Blueprints - Owned by the shareholders.
For The BIG Deal to work at all, BIG is actually sinking a substantial *additional* amount of our *own* ISK 'into the pot' (billions!)
The reason that we have to do this is that BIG is 'paying' for all the 'unsold' shares.
Whenever a print gets 'sold out' (ie. 10 shares sold in total) and the next (the 11th, 21st etc) share gets sold, BIG has to go out and buy a new battleship blueprint - Thus BIG has to 'front' the ISK for the not yet sold 9 shares.
Over time as more shares gets sold in that particular print BIG ofc 'makes back' the fronted ISK.
But with 8 different types of Battleship Blueprints, there is never a time where 'the books balance'.
At any given time there is always some (large number of) shares that BIG is 'paying for'.
"On average" that would be 5 shares per print (actually 4.5... - Think about it )
'Worst case scenario' would be that we would have to front the ISK for 8*9 shares
I hope that clears up any misconceptions about BIG simply pocketing the 20 Billion ISK - It's actually quite the opposite, BIG continually has a large amount of ISK tied up in The BIG Deal instead.
Oh and - Battleship BPo #25 was purchased yesterday
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.30 14:15:00 -
[243]
I'd like to clear up one of the most common misconceptions about The BIG Deal.
The (sofar) 20 Billion ISK is not 'owned' by BIG - ie. it's not the 'property of BIG'.
It's the property of the shareholders - BIG doesnt see as much as 1 ISK of the 20 Billion ISK.
It's *all* invested in more Battleship Blueprints - Owned by the shareholders.
For The BIG Deal to work at all, BIG is actually sinking a substantial *additional* amount of our *own* ISK 'into the pot' (billions!)
The reason that we have to do this is that BIG is 'paying' for all the 'unsold' shares.
Whenever a print gets 'sold out' (ie. 10 shares sold in total) and the next (the 11th, 21st etc) share gets sold, BIG has to go out and buy a new battleship blueprint - Thus BIG has to 'front' the ISK for the not yet sold 9 shares.
Over time as more shares gets sold in that particular print BIG ofc 'makes back' the fronted ISK.
But with 8 different types of Battleship Blueprints, there is never a time where 'the books balance'.
At any given time there is always some (large number of) shares that BIG is 'paying for'.
"On average" that would be 5 shares per print (actually 4.5... - Think about it )
'Worst case scenario' would be that we would have to front the ISK for 8*9 shares
I hope that clears up any misconceptions about BIG simply pocketing the 20 Billion ISK - It's actually quite the opposite, BIG continually has a large amount of ISK tied up in The BIG Deal instead.
Oh and - Battleship BPo #25 was purchased yesterday
BIG Lottery
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.07.30 23:16:00 -
[244]
Edited by: Mr Ratty on 30/07/2004 23:18:31
Well i just bought 5 shares in a BPO in one go, which according to the peeps in the ingame BIG channel is a first, so yay me
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.07.30 23:16:00 -
[245]
Edited by: Mr Ratty on 30/07/2004 23:18:31
Well i just bought 5 shares in a BPO in one go, which according to the peeps in the ingame BIG channel is a first, so yay me
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Freelancing Corp |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.30 23:57:00 -
[246]
It is.
And now we have to go and buy BS BPo #26....
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.07.30 23:57:00 -
[247]
It is.
And now we have to go and buy BS BPo #26....
BIG Lottery
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.07.31 06:45:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Mr Ratty on 31/07/2004 06:51:51
I'd say i was sorry, but i dont like lying
Look on the bright side, at least this time you only have to put up half the cost instead of 90%
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.07.31 06:45:00 -
[249]
Edited by: Mr Ratty on 31/07/2004 06:51:51
I'd say i was sorry, but i dont like lying
Look on the bright side, at least this time you only have to put up half the cost instead of 90%
<><><><>
Freelancing Corp |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.08.06 23:39:00 -
[250]
The BIG Deal : Battleship share #250 sold.
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.08.06 23:39:00 -
[251]
The BIG Deal : Battleship share #250 sold.
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:49:00 -
[252]
The BIG Deal pays off again : BPo #9,#10,#11 leaves the assembly line
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:49:00 -
[253]
The BIG Deal pays off again : BPo #9,#10,#11 leaves the assembly line
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.08.17 15:37:00 -
[254]
The BIG Deal : 25 Billion ISK milestone
BIG Lottery
[u |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.08.17 15:37:00 -
[255]
The BIG Deal : 25 Billion ISK milestone
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.09.01 19:02:00 -
[256]
The BIG Deal Milstone: BS BPc #2500 paid out (and BS Bpo #12)
BIG Lottery
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.09.01 19:02:00 -
[257]
The BIG Deal Milstone: BS BPc #2500 paid out (and BS Bpo #12)
BIG Lottery
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:10:00 -
[258]
number 12, thats me !!
for those wondering if it's worth it, here how it worked for me:
cost of DOM BPO 625mill (basicly NPC price)
i think i bought my original a bit faster than most, but i still got 11 me5 bpc's, basicly free of charge, as my BPO only cost the normal 625mill.
In total i spent 625mil, got a dom BPO, 11 bpc's & saved a months lab time (reserch to me5 then making 11 bpc's). so i made out great  , Thanks BIG.
<><><><>
Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:10:00 -
[259]
number 12, thats me !!
for those wondering if it's worth it, here how it worked for me:
cost of DOM BPO 625mill (basicly NPC price)
i think i bought my original a bit faster than most, but i still got 11 me5 bpc's, basicly free of charge, as my BPO only cost the normal 625mill.
In total i spent 625mil, got a dom BPO, 11 bpc's & saved a months lab time (reserch to me5 then making 11 bpc's). so i made out great , Thanks BIG.
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:10:00 -
[260]
number 12, thats me !!
for those wondering if it's worth it, here how it worked for me:
cost of DOM BPO 625mill (basicly NPC price)
i think i bought my original a bit faster than most, but i still got 11 me5 bpc's, basicly free of charge, as my BPO only cost the normal 625mill.
In total i spent 625mil, got a dom BPO, 11 bpc's & saved a months lab time (reserch to me5 then making 11 bpc's). so i made out great , Thanks BIG.
<><><><>
Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.09.18 23:13:00 -
[261]
I liked it so much, i'm buying more :)
easiest way to get a bpo
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.09.18 23:13:00 -
[262]
I liked it so much, i'm buying more :)
easiest way to get a bpo
<><><><>
Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.09.18 23:13:00 -
[263]
I liked it so much, i'm buying more :)
easiest way to get a bpo
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Freelancing Corp |
Sauron VonTemplar
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Posted - 2004.10.01 04:46:00 -
[264]
still worth it to make some easy money?
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Sauron VonTemplar
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Posted - 2004.10.01 04:46:00 -
[265]
still worth it to make some easy money?
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Sauron VonTemplar
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Posted - 2004.10.01 04:46:00 -
[266]
still worth it to make some easy money?
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.10.15 18:40:00 -
[267]
well i've had 1 bpo, i just bought the 6th share in a second & 1 share in a 3rd, using them for building i'm getting enough isk to buy 1 share a week real easy.
not to mention i could sell the bpc's if i wanted
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.10.15 18:40:00 -
[268]
well i've had 1 bpo, i just bought the 6th share in a second & 1 share in a 3rd, using them for building i'm getting enough isk to buy 1 share a week real easy.
not to mention i could sell the bpc's if i wanted
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.10.15 18:40:00 -
[269]
well i've had 1 bpo, i just bought the 6th share in a second & 1 share in a 3rd, using them for building i'm getting enough isk to buy 1 share a week real easy.
not to mention i could sell the bpc's if i wanted
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Freelancing Corp |
Katt
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Posted - 2004.10.15 19:59:00 -
[270]
too bad it's just ME5....that's quite sub-par nowadays.
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Katt
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Posted - 2004.10.15 19:59:00 -
[271]
too bad it's just ME5....that's quite sub-par nowadays.
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Katt
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Posted - 2004.10.15 19:59:00 -
[272]
too bad it's just ME5....that's quite sub-par nowadays.
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:38:00 -
[273]
dunno why, me10 will save you about 400k on a ship that sells for 60 mill, not much of a dent, me20 saves you under 600k.
it allways makes me laugh to see peeps paying a mill or more for a higher me lvl when they are saving less isk than they are paying for the higher me LOL
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:38:00 -
[274]
dunno why, me10 will save you about 400k on a ship that sells for 60 mill, not much of a dent, me20 saves you under 600k.
it allways makes me laugh to see peeps paying a mill or more for a higher me lvl when they are saving less isk than they are paying for the higher me LOL
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Freelancing Corp |
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:38:00 -
[275]
dunno why, me10 will save you about 400k on a ship that sells for 60 mill, not much of a dent, me20 saves you under 600k.
it allways makes me laugh to see peeps paying a mill or more for a higher me lvl when they are saving less isk than they are paying for the higher me LOL
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Freelancing Corp |
Azur
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:35:00 -
[276]
Just purchased a couple of Geddon shares (just waiting for confirmation) and it looked like the thread could use the help !
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Azur
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:35:00 -
[277]
Just purchased a couple of Geddon shares (just waiting for confirmation) and it looked like the thread could use the help !
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Azur
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:35:00 -
[278]
Just purchased a couple of Geddon shares (just waiting for confirmation) and it looked like the thread could use the help !
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:49:00 -
[279]
Edited by: Sc0rpion on 03/12/2004 19:54:59
And as soon as BIG is done cashing out all of thier extra BPO's, they flood the market with the last year's worth of stockpiled BPC's so the buyers never attain profitability (through alt corps of course, to protect thier good name).
And the funniest part of it is all you people THANKING THEM for robbing you!
Who needs fiction? This stuff writes itself.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |
Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:49:00 -
[280]
Edited by: Sc0rpion on 03/12/2004 19:54:59
And as soon as BIG is done cashing out all of thier extra BPO's, they flood the market with the last year's worth of stockpiled BPC's so the buyers never attain profitability (through alt corps of course, to protect thier good name).
And the funniest part of it is all you people THANKING THEM for robbing you!
Who needs fiction? This stuff writes itself.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |
Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:49:00 -
[281]
Edited by: Sc0rpion on 03/12/2004 19:54:59
And as soon as BIG is done cashing out all of thier extra BPO's, they flood the market with the last year's worth of stockpiled BPC's so the buyers never attain profitability (through alt corps of course, to protect thier good name).
And the funniest part of it is all you people THANKING THEM for robbing you!
Who needs fiction? This stuff writes itself.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |
Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2004.12.03 21:55:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Sc0rpion
Edited by: Sc0rpion on 03/12/2004 19:54:59
And as soon as BIG is done cashing out all of thier extra BPO's, they flood the market with the last year's worth of stockpiled BPC's so the buyers never attain profitability (through alt corps of course, to protect thier good name).
And the funniest part of it is all you people THANKING THEM for robbing you!
Who needs fiction? This stuff writes itself.
Lol ok. It did not take one corporation to flood the market. It was a collective retarded effort by everyone. :) Supply and Demand, it is a *****.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2004.12.03 21:55:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Sc0rpion
Edited by: Sc0rpion on 03/12/2004 19:54:59
And as soon as BIG is done cashing out all of thier extra BPO's, they flood the market with the last year's worth of stockpiled BPC's so the buyers never attain profitability (through alt corps of course, to protect thier good name).
And the funniest part of it is all you people THANKING THEM for robbing you!
Who needs fiction? This stuff writes itself.
Lol ok. It did not take one corporation to flood the market. It was a collective retarded effort by everyone. :) Supply and Demand, it is a *****.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2004.12.03 21:55:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Sc0rpion
Edited by: Sc0rpion on 03/12/2004 19:54:59
And as soon as BIG is done cashing out all of thier extra BPO's, they flood the market with the last year's worth of stockpiled BPC's so the buyers never attain profitability (through alt corps of course, to protect thier good name).
And the funniest part of it is all you people THANKING THEM for robbing you!
Who needs fiction? This stuff writes itself.
Lol ok. It did not take one corporation to flood the market. It was a collective retarded effort by everyone. :) Supply and Demand, it is a *****.
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Rillian
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Posted - 2004.12.04 14:54:00 -
[285]
TornSoul is BIG looking to do a "BIG DEAL" with the new Mining barge BPO's? the large one that costs 2 billion? If so I would be VERY interested in doing this
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Rillian
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Posted - 2004.12.04 14:54:00 -
[286]
TornSoul is BIG looking to do a "BIG DEAL" with the new Mining barge BPO's? the large one that costs 2 billion? If so I would be VERY interested in doing this
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Rillian
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Posted - 2004.12.04 14:54:00 -
[287]
TornSoul is BIG looking to do a "BIG DEAL" with the new Mining barge BPO's? the large one that costs 2 billion? If so I would be VERY interested in doing this
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2005.03.11 17:58:00 -
[288]
i asked, they arnt doing a big mining barge deal :(
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Freelancing Corp |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.04.09 13:05:00 -
[289]
Edited by: TornSoul on 09/04/2005 13:09:32
The BIG Deal : 1.5 years old today (get a free Raven BPo share)
BIG Lottery
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Klasanov
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:13:00 -
[290]
Old thread, I know, but I have to say I'm fairly intrigued by this.
It looks like a pretty good investment, considering there's liquidity in it since you can sell your share to other people, of course.
But, what are the advantages of actually owning the original BP rather than just getting 10 shares each week instead?
Though, could be fun to have my own Armageddon BPO to build and then sell... But alas, I already invested a significant portion of my capital into your bank :)
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Zephyrlin
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:23:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Klasanov
Old thread, I know, but I have to say I'm fairly intrigued by this.
It looks like a pretty good investment, considering there's liquidity in it since you can sell your share to other people, of course.
But, what are the advantages of actually owning the original BP rather than just getting 10 shares each week instead?
Though, could be fun to have my own Armageddon BPO to build and then sell... But alas, I already invested a significant portion of my capital into your bank :)
*grabs pitchfork and torch*
Quick! Get the Forum Necro!!!!!
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KineTiK
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Posted - 2006.02.16 11:37:00 -
[292]
why does this look so familiar?
http://static.circa1984.com/the-big-scam.html
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Dashriprock
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Posted - 2006.02.16 12:34:00 -
[293]
can you evemail me-i am interested in buying shares thanks
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Va'Jina
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Posted - 2006.02.16 16:55:00 -
[294]
Edited by: Va''Jina on 16/02/2006 16:57:24
Klasanov you Necromancer you.
tis a very legit deal, and is still available if i am right.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
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Posted - 2006.02.18 01:45:00 -
[295]
It does doesn't it. Makes you wonder.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.02.18 02:32:00 -
[296]
flash back
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Zekks MarKeys
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Posted - 2006.02.18 03:41:00 -
[297]
I don't want to sound negative or anything but...... The biggest scammers build up peoples trust first before the major rip-offs. Here is a simple example. Hey could you loan me 1 euro? yeah o.k 1 euro is nothng. A week later, could you loan me 10 euro's?
Yeah sure i trust you, you paid me back last time. Some weeks later. Hey man could i loan 10 euro's my friend, sure buddy (he always pays me back so unusual for someone to do that, I like this guy and trust him).
This could happen 50 times b4 the sting. My friend i'm really stuck i need to loan 1000 euro's I have no one to turn to you know you can trust me i've always paid you back. He then disapears with the cash. Sorry but BIG reminds me of that friend. Call me cynical and if they are honest then good luck its a good idea.
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Dhan
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Posted - 2006.02.18 04:56:00 -
[298]
If any one corp can be trusted in Eve, it's BIG. They have an amazing track record of honesty and doing the right thing. I endorse this 100%.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.18 05:14:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Klasanov
Old thread, I know, but I have to say I'm fairly intrigued by this.
It looks like a pretty good investment, considering there's liquidity in it since you can sell your share to other people, of course.
But, what are the advantages of actually owning the original BP rather than just getting 10 shares each week instead?
Though, could be fun to have my own Armageddon BPO to build and then sell... But alas, I already invested a significant portion of my capital into your bank :)
NECRO....
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Kaemonn
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Posted - 2006.02.18 06:32:00 -
[300]
Sorry guys, yes this is a very good and honest deal, but this thread is way too old. If the OP is still doing this, they can create a new thread with some updated details. Locked.
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