It's a great tactic. If you don't like it don't love in NPC 0.0 stations.

Launching a Interdiction Sphere creates aggression

3)I live in lowsec.

1) It's a broken tactic.

2) I do love all space even NPC 0.0

3)I live in lowsec.

So hopefully they understand that the persistence of this bull-****** only aids the large sov holding power blocks, get larger and hold more sov, deepening the stagnation. They understand that right? Guize?

I am for this, but note that not doing anything about this borderline exploit could be seen by some of CCP as inline with their stated goals of nerfing power projection.

So hopefully they understand that the persistence of this bull-****** only aids the large sov holding power blocks, get larger and hold more sov, deepening the stagnation. They understand that right? Guize?

Wait, what? Did you even read the original post? How does bubbling the undock of NPC stations let the blocs gain more sov? It's not like they can get sov in NPC space, so your argument is totally pointless. You understand that, right?

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Launching a Interdiction Sphere creates aggression if it hits a target (think smartbombs)

They could change it to make the probe explode when the person docks.

They could change it to make the probe explode when the person docks.

Its not M8, dont be a twit. It keeps non sov holders from moving freely and stirring up trouble while allowing major sov holders to move freely.

Hobojamming is when a Interdictor repeatedly undocks bubbles the undock of a NPC station and then redocks.

fozzieceptors

Genius. Make it so.

I love how in every single thread there are at least five people deeply concerned that any changes to broken game mechanics will turn EVE into a themepark and they will no longer be able to namedrop the game they barely play to their ****** online friends and receive gasps and whispers of "he's so hardcore, he plays that super hard game"

They could change it to make the probe explode when the person docks.

Hobojamming is when a Interdictor repeatedly undocks bubbles the undock of a NPC station and then redocks.

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Interdictors gain Interdiction nullification
Launching a Interdiction Sphere creates aggression

EzLyfe EzGame

Launching a Interdiction Sphere creates aggression

They could change it to make the probe explode when the person docks.

This is pretty much like you telling them it should be acceptable for you to drop Sentry Drones on one side of the gate, and sit on the other side waiting to have a target to shoot. It's a piece of gameplay that exploits a weakness in the game without risk to the interdictor pilot.

OP try to understand the tactic. When small pvp roaming gangs shotgun systems the first place out dictor goes is to the station. He then drops a bubble on the undock which catches any idiot ratter who warps back to the station because he saw hostiles in local thus being caught in our bubble. Just because its a pain in the ass and you proablly were caught and died in one doesn't mean the mechanic is broken. Please understand Null Sec is not safe.

Bubble immune dictors would be wtfbbqop. Just saying.

Rest of your feedback I'm looking into and taking note of, keep it coming.

Are you serious? This is not the tactic being talked about..... at all.

hobojamming is working as intended

i hear the new wow expansion has pandas, maybe you should gb2wow if you cant handle npc null

It's not, but it is another perfectly valid tactic that would be disrupted by the OP's proposal.

The current 'dictor bubble aggression mechanics are not a weakness in the game, they were a deliberate decision by CCP to make it easier for 'dictors to drop bubbles and GTFO via stargate. I rather think that giving 'dictors Interdiction Nullification as the OP suggested would be completely broken and exploited in ways that make hobojamming look like Noobships Online.

Also, dropping a bubble and leaving system (via stargate or station) is not quite like leaving drones behind and having them shoot something. You have no control over a 'dictor bubble once you drop it, and it impacts all comers the same way, hostile or no. Drones are something you control, and have a finite control range measured in kilometers, not AU and not light-years.


Can large groups use Hobojamming to their advantage? Absolutely.

Does this make Hobojamming inherently broken? Nope.

Why not? Because small groups can use Hobojamming as well.

One of the many things EvE doesn't need is yet another almost uncatchable ship, especially one with the capabilities of the dictor class.

Hobojamming is when a Interdictor repeatedly undocks bubbles the undock of a NPC station and then redocks.

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Interdictors gain Interdiction nullification
Launching a Interdiction Sphere creates aggression

EzLyfe EzGame

They could change it to make the probe explode when the person docks.

Man you just have no idea what you are talking about.

Small groups CAN NOT use hobojamming. Can you dock inside a CFC or N3 Station?

Oh you cant? Then you can't hobojam.

The tactic is biased against groups trying to make it and grow in NPC Null sec.

Man you just have no idea what you are talking about.

Small groups CAN NOT use hobojamming. Can you dock inside a CFC or N3 Station?

Oh you cant? Then you can't hobojam.

The tactic is biased against groups trying to make it and grow in NPC Null sec.

Hobojamming is when a Interdictor repeatedly undocks bubbles the undock of a NPC station and then redocks.

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Interdictors gain Interdiction nullification
Launching a Interdiction Sphere creates aggression

EzLyfe EzGame

What the hell does docking in sov null or being a small group have to do with npc null stations? 1 person could hobo jam, if they wanted to.

... This is the kind of bullshit that smaller groups are dealing with in NPC null.

They could change it to make the probe explode when the person docks.

1. If Goonswarm or PL were staging out of an NPC nullsec station like you were, you could just as easily hobojam them into that station. Likewise, you can just as easily hobojam non-sov-holders into stations in NPC null. This is what I mean when I say that there is no hobojamming bias in NPC nullsec.
2. These changes won't change the fact that Goonswarm and PL can hobojam you into an NPC nullsec station, it'll just make it slightly harder for them.
3. These changes would, potentially, let you hobojam Goonswarm and PL into stations that they own, but most likely they'll just use tactics like the sniping Loki to pop your 'dictors.
4. Your problem isn't with hobojamming, it's with the fact that that you can't hobojam Alliances into stations that they own.
5. If you want to be immune to hobojamming, hold yer own sov. Admittedly, this is an exceedingly difficult proposition at the moment given the current state of sov mechanics. Ultimately, I feel like this is the real issue. Hobojamming is just a symptom of larger sov issues.

2. I feel like you don't know what hobojamming is.

Here let me break it down for you. This has happened to Black Legion multiple times just so you know.

Black Legion is staged in K3J in Venal lets say.

Pandemic Legion is hobojamming our station with a dictor.

Black Legion CAN NOT go hobojam Pandemic Legion because they live in a sov station.

Here is another example.

Black Legion is staged in X-7

Goonswarm is hobojamming the station.

Black Legion CAN NOT go hobojam Goonswarm because they live in a sov station.

Notice how the small group can not do the hobojamming on equal terms with the larger alliances?

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Now to make matters even worse (And this has happened before).

We are in K3J, we are being hobojammed. BUT we can use bombers to clear the undock for example meaning the situation is not horribly bad.

However, there is a Sniping Loki who keeps warping around station and popping bombers.

He is very very hard to catch, and also the dictor is invulnerable (from hobojamming tactics).

What do you do about this situation?

TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE.

Same situation. You are now in X-7.

The dock radius on the station is so large you can't cloak your bombers when preparing to bomb the undock.

The sniper is now here.

The situation is ****** and two people are locking down your entire cap fleet.

What do you do?

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This is the kind of bullshit that smaller groups are dealing with in NPC null.

This is genuinely a very good idea, CCP implement this please

It's a nice idea. But how would it work? I was under the impression that those probes weren't linked to your ship/launcher after deployment, because the launcher literally only deploys and onlines it.

They used to get you on killmails and give you aggression. I doubt they just completely axed all the code that connected them to your ship back then.

Here let me break it down for you. This has happened to Black Legion multiple times just so you know.

Black Legion is staged in K3J in Venal lets say.

Pandemic Legion is hobojamming our station with a dictor.

Black Legion CAN NOT go hobojam Pandemic Legion because they live in a sov station.

Here is another example.

Black Legion is staged in X-7

Goonswarm is hobojamming the station.

Black Legion CAN NOT go hobojam Goonswarm because they live in a sov station.

Notice how the small group can not do the hobojamming on equal terms with the larger alliances?

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Now to make matters even worse (And this has happened before).

We are in K3J, we are being hobojammed. BUT we can use bombers to clear the undock for example meaning the situation is not horribly bad.

However, there is a Sniping Loki who keeps warping around station and popping bombers.

He is very very hard to catch, and also the dictor is invulnerable (from hobojamming tactics).

What do you do about this situation?

TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE.

Same situation. You are now in X-7.

The dock radius on the station is so large you can't cloak your bombers when preparing to bomb the undock.

The sniper is now here.

The situation is ****** and two people are locking down your entire cap fleet.

What do you do?

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This is the kind of bullshit that smaller groups are dealing with in NPC null.

They used to get you on killmails and give you aggression. I doubt they just completely axed all the code that connected them to your ship back then.

Here let me break it down for you. This has happened to Black Legion multiple times just so you know.

Black Legion is staged in K3J in Venal lets say.

Pandemic Legion is hobojamming our station with a dictor.

Black Legion CAN NOT go hobojam Pandemic Legion because they live in a sov station.

Here is another example.

Black Legion is staged in X-7

Goonswarm is hobojamming the station.

Black Legion CAN NOT go hobojam Goonswarm because they live in a sov station.

Notice how the small group can not do the hobojamming on equal terms with the larger alliances?

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Now to make matters even worse (And this has happened before).

We are in K3J, we are being hobojammed. BUT we can use bombers to clear the undock for example meaning the situation is not horribly bad.

However, there is a Sniping Loki who keeps warping around station and popping bombers.

He is very very hard to catch, and also the dictor is invulnerable (from hobojamming tactics).

What do you do about this situation?

TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE.

Same situation. You are now in X-7.

The dock radius on the station is so large you can't cloak your bombers when preparing to bomb the undock.

The sniper is now here.

The situation is ****** and two people are locking down your entire cap fleet.

What do you do?

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This is the kind of bullshit that smaller groups are dealing with in NPC null.

Won't people just adapt and do :

1- Undock
2- Bubble
3- Insta off station (they are nullified anyway with your change)
4- Warp to a serie of safe to always be in warp while the 1 minute timer expire
5- Warp at 0 on a docking BM to insta dock
6- Dock
7- **** up local
8- Go to 1

All you do is put a delay for the aggression timer to expire so they can re dock to start the cycle back again.

I just learned of this tactic and think it's hilarious (actually LoL'd) , yeah sounds like it needs to die in a fire.

Yes are probably correct. However in that time the undock can be bombed. So you say well you can do that now right?

People do this now:

1 Undock
2 Bubble
3 Repeat every 10 seconds.

A bomber can only launch bombs every 2 minutes. So as you can see there is quite a disparity.

So, the main issue from the last page I have read is a dictor doing the undock --> bubble --> dock

Wouldn't an insta lock something be able to just shoot the bubbles clear, instead of relying on a bomber that can do it every 2 minutes?

This would force the dictors to stay undocked, which would mean they would get turned into pod goo from the capitals they are camping in.

Just a thought on a simple solution.

Allowing Smartbombs next to Null Stations would also get rid of this issue.

Why is this not allowed anyways?

Just a thought on a simple solution.

Allowing Smartbombs next to Null Stations would also get rid of this issue.

Why is this not allowed anyways?

What hobojamming is for capital fleets, this would be for pods, frigates, etc. Only worse, because even in a station with a huge dock radius, you'd have no chance to re-dock.

You can't lock the bubbles. You need an AOE weapon. And smartbombs don't work on a station.