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ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.16 19:13:00 - [1] Ok heres one last try, the website has updated again, and every new computer that goes to it sees the last paragrah edited out. If you still see the original I will wait till tomorrow to post. Everything in this story is true. Some of the facts may be a bit off, as I was trying to remember back three years of gaming. I hope you find the story interesting, but if not, please at least read the last chapter that explains how one person nearly ruined my life. My Story Thank you for reading, ArcticWolf, Rome Corporation
Splagada Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.16 19:53:00 - [2] sad story indeed, i'm glad the guy got caught you write well - Looking for technetium delivery contracts
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:02:00 - [3] I do not agree with CCP in this case. You have some pretty extreme circumstances and you should be allowed to recover your characters. Not any isk or ships that are gone as a result, just allow you to have your characters back. And might I suggest a deadbolt for your door? They work wonders. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Powder Monkey	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:02:00 - [4] Post with your main !!
Splagada Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:03:00 - [5] actually ccp just needs a proof maybe the proof that the guy who stole all is one and single person, especialyl if he got caught, might be enough for ccp to dig in their database? - Looking for technetium delivery contracts
Powder Monkey	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:06:00 - [6] This guy was actually begging in his first thread. Pathetic
Kerushi Caldari JuBa Corp	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:14:00 - [7] police report of the theft would help i think otherwise, for all we care u sold stuff on ebay and got caught
Admiral Pieg Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:27:00 - [8] O_o ouch ______________ Pod from above.
Dahin Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:28:00 - [9] Edited by: Dahin on 16/08/2006 20:27:56 omg dude. So, how did the guy get caught? It's a long jump in the story.
Mitten Caldari Hellbound Saints	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:31:00 - [10] I'm glad I dont know people in RL
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:41:00 - [11] CCP Should lok into this issue for sure, and do best to get characters back even if they require police reports on what happened i'm sure your friends in ROME will stick up for you _________________________________________________________ My First EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Rutoo CCP Should lok into this issue for sure, and do best to get characters back even if they require police reports on what happened i'm sure your friends in ROME will stick up for you They are helping me with my new character by giving me some plus 2 implants. He got cought by trying to access my checking account again through an ATM. He tried to use the old pin numer, and tried a few other numbers. It was recorded as suspicous, and the survalience at the ATM identified his car. After an investigation it was found out that he was the theif.
Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:50:00 - [13] My sympathies for your plight. BUt mostly I want to thank you for that romp through the good old days of Eve. And now back to the good new days of Eve.
Jinx Barker Gallente Federal Bank	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:50:00 - [14] It is terrible what happend, the fact that guy was in your house? I am not sure how he got into your house, thats just bizzare, unless he did BnE. This is what I do to protect myself: I keep all my passwords in a single file, encrypted with DOD approved encryption software, on a CD and the CD is nowhere near my computer. It is hidden in such a way that a thief will need at least few days going over my house emptying tins, ruffling through books, doing laundry, checking my fishtanks, etc, etc, you get the idea to find the CD. It requiers one password of 128 characters to open it, really a phrase typed a certain way - and within it it has the regular passwords and pin numbers that I use every day. Nothing is written anywhere on paper or stored in notes. I never autosave any passwords on my computer and have a monitoring software running at all times to detect keyloggers and other stuff. My network is hardwired into the house and I do not use wireless unless I absolutley have to, and even then I enable the security. In the end I hope that you have some solid evidence to present to CCp and they help you.
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Kerushi police report of the theft would help i think otherwise, for all we care u sold stuff on ebay and got caught I was the one who reported that the characters were sold, because it was not me who did it. That is the only reason why the story was allowed to be up. And kieron said once he got back from Gencon he would look into the matter some more for me. He did want to help the few months ago during the first petetions but he said he could not overrule the GMs decision. Maybe now with the police's help I can get my character back.
Hakera Minmatar Anari Higard	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:54:00 - [16] sad if true, but realistically CCP cannot rely upon your word. There has been too many instances of original account owners scamming people they sold their accounts to by claiming they were stolen to CCP, producing the cd key and asking for their characters back. Im not saying you are, but thats the reason why, even with a heartfelt blog on what happened, that they cant accept your word over the new owners who could also be proclaiming a legit ebay sale, which when reported to CCP would ban the characters as the disupte cannot be resolved as it was done outside of CCP control. If it is true, I do feel sorry for you and hope you still have the energy to play eve still
Metis Aote	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:58:00 - [17] I think if can show that he paid for the account for years. He was not the person who ebayed the account (apparently they caught the guy), then CCP should unban the accounts. +2 implants...that is almost insulting after 3 years of loyal subscription payments.
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:59:00 - [18] Originally by: ArcticShadow Originally by: Kerushi police report of the theft would help i think otherwise, for all we care u sold stuff on ebay and got caught I was the one who reported that the characters were sold, because it was not me who did it. That is the only reason why the story was allowed to be up. And kieron said once he got back from Gencon he would look into the matter some more for me. He did want to help the few months ago during the first petetions but he said he could not overrule the GMs decision. Maybe now with the police's help I can get my character back. I think that would be awesome. CCP doesn't do these things to be rude. They do it to protect the player base from abuse. I think it's clear you didn't abuse anything. And if you can prove any of what you say (police reports) then you should get your characters back. With the support of the community I don't see why you shouldn't. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Metis Aote	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:03:00 - [19] Hey artic there are some ways to get around those fraudulent credit charges especially if they caught the guy. There are some very good consumer watch groups around that can steer you in the right direction. It takes awhile but dont believe what the credit companies tell you all the time. Sometimes you may be out of luck, but a lot of time you arent, but the credit companies and paypal are not the ones that are going to help you.
DrLogan New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:03:00 - [20] A very well written story, shame you won't get your old character back.
Kerushi Caldari JuBa Corp	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:04:00 - [21] Originally by: ArcticShadow Originally by: Kerushi police report of the theft would help i think otherwise, for all we care u sold stuff on ebay and got caught I was the one who reported that the characters were sold, because it was not me who did it. That is the only reason why the story was allowed to be up. And kieron said once he got back from Gencon he would look into the matter some more for me. He did want to help the few months ago during the first petetions but he said he could not overrule the GMs decision. Maybe now with the police's help I can get my character back. no, i ment the police report u filed after the theft like u need a police report after a password loss to get a new 1
arbitrary Bad luck Clover Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:17:00 - [22] GL in the future. ___ Arbi all I want is for you to smile.
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Metis Aote Hey artic there are some ways to get around those fraudulent credit charges especially if they caught the guy. There are some very good consumer watch groups around that can steer you in the right direction. It takes awhile but dont believe what the credit companies tell you all the time. Sometimes you may be out of luck, but a lot of time you arent, but the credit companies and paypal are not the ones that are going to help you. Thanks for the advice, I will look into it. I talked to the people at Paypal the other day. They told me they were adding the sale of online items into their protection policy, but thats too late for me. He also informed me that credit card companies always side with their client on the dispute of online items.
Dao 2 Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:25:00 - [24] sup artic dunno if u remeber me or not but i remeber u :( that sucks balls man! i doubt im any use but if u need voices count me in as one ur a good man :( ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:28:00 - [25] Way too much to read, can someone sum it up in a few sentances? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
darklegionca	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:37:00 - [26] didnt this get locked last time by a mod allready why post it again dude if you know its just going to get locked again
arbitrary Bad luck Clover Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:44:00 - [27] Originally by: darklegionca didnt this get locked last time by a mod allready why post it again dude if you know its just going to get locked again The offending part was removed. ___ Arbi all I want is for you to smile.
darklegionca	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:48:00 - [28] Edited by: darklegionca on 16/08/2006 23:48:33 then all im going to say is you sir are a fracking moron for leaving documents like that out in the open for people to see your just lucky they didnt do id theft to you next time dont be a dumbass and leave stuff like that lieing around
Dao 2 Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:50:00 - [29] Originally by: darklegionca Edited by: darklegionca on 16/08/2006 23:48:33 then all im going to say is you sir are a fracking moron for leaving documents like that out in the open for people to see your just lucky they didnt do id theft to you next time dont be a dumbass and leave stuff like that lieing around y dont u stop trolling and read it u piece of crap, he did get his identity stolen, but he didn't have his passwords on that piece of paper, the passwords were taken from a keylogger that someone put on his computer. ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
darklegionca	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:51:00 - [30] Edited by: darklegionca on 16/08/2006 23:53:17 lol i love how you call me a troll just cuz i dont post that much go get a life you emo and FYI i did read it so ya
BobGhengisKhan Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:57:00 - [31] Good luck, dude.
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:03:00 - [32] Just finished reading, sad to hear that this happened to you. I wish you the best of luck in the future =) My Guides
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Foundation	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:16:00 - [33] Originally by: darklegionca Edited by: darklegionca on 16/08/2006 23:53:17 lol i love how you call me a troll just cuz i dont post that much go get a life you emo and FYI i did read it so ya being a troll isn't about how often you post it's about what and how you post - and you are most definitely trolling. you may have read it, but by your comments you failed to understand what you read. This message came from the Minmatar Messiah, accept no imitations Pesky LaRue, Minmatar Messiah Bringing Salvation To Your System Soon! ++ PRAY FOR PESKY ++
darklegionca	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:22:00 - [34] the fact this moron posted it again when it was locked was more then enough the mods should be locking this one anytime now
Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:22:00 - [35] If it's of any comfort I'm sure that guy will have his private parts touched in bad ways in prison. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...
Valeo Galaem InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:26:00 - [36] Originally by: darklegionca the fact this moron posted it again when it was locked was more then enough the mods should be locking this one anytime now Originally by: Wrangler Well, unless your change didn't have any effect yet, or I'm still seeing a cached version or something, then it's still wrong. In other words, Wrangler says his post won't be removed if he removes the offending comments. He has done so. Therefore, the thread stays. P.S. Stop Trolling. Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption
Exiled One Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:26:00 - [37] Guess 'Don't re-open locked threads' policy here doesn't apply, does it?
Powder Monkey	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Valeo Galaem Originally by: darklegionca the fact this moron posted it again when it was locked was more then enough the mods should be locking this one anytime now Originally by: Wrangler Well, unless your change didn't have any effect yet, or I'm still seeing a cached version or something, then it's still wrong. In other words, Wrangler says his post won't be removed if he removes the offending comments. He has done so. Therefore, the thread stays. P.S. Stop Trolling. Nobody's trolling, but the op poster begged for $ in the other 2 threads! WTF
Caanan Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:38:00 - [39] That really is a sad story. You never mentioned who the thief was, but I hope my suspiscions are wrong and it was not your RL friend. I wish you all the best. And FFS CCP help this guy out.
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.17 01:49:00 - [40] Originally by: Powder Monkey Nobody's trolling, but the op poster begged for $ in the other 2 threads! WTF I hardly call what was in the removed portion begging for money. It was telling everyone how much I worked over the two months to get enough money back that was stolen so I could still enroll in college this semester. I said if you liked the story and wanted to help you could donate, and left a link to do so. That link however is against fourm rules I learned, and took it out. Wrangler had a cached version and did not see the link removed, hence the second post was locked. The only reason I put the link in originally was because, unlike you, some people accually have a heart and care.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.17 01:57:00 - [41] Edited by: Bhaal on 17/08/2006 01:57:07 I read the story. While it is a sucky thing to have happen, it's not the end of the world, lot of ppl go through a lot worse, my sister died of brain cancer at age 31 for example... I hope CCP can get your characters back to you. Good luck in school, that should be your main priority. ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Orbital Drift Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.17 02:07:00 - [42] Hopefully you can get Arcticwolf back soon so you can help us blow some stuff up.
Stephen Katze	Posted - 2006.08.17 02:13:00 - [43] How very sad...that I just wasted two hours of my life reading a pointless BS story. Seriously. You basically just wrote about everything you've done in Eve, and then hit us with something COMPLETELY unrelated in the end. I might as well tell you my life story, including bathroom visits, and end it with "and the point is, yesterday I got mugged". There wasn't even any coherence to each part of the story. It was just "I did this, then I did this, then I quit for a while, then I went back, then I got a new ship, then I bought some more ships, then I, then I...". Whoever it was on this thread that said you're a good writer needs to get out of the game and read more. Sorry, I usually don't post inflammatory posts, but I'm actually angry that I took the time to read that drivel. Oh, and by the way, I call BS. Despite pages and pages of in depth analysis of how great he is in Eve, there's only a cursory explanation of "someone was in my house...repeated times". Also, if someone had physical access to your system, they wouldn't need to exploit IE security holes to install a keylogger. They would just...install it. But why am I picking out these particular points...the whole story is garbage. I praise CCP for not buying this load of space-baloney.
darklegionca	Posted - 2006.08.17 02:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Stephen Katze How very sad...that I just wasted two hours of my life reading a pointless BS story. Seriously. You basically just wrote about everything you've done in Eve, and then hit us with something COMPLETELY unrelated in the end. I might as well tell you my life story, including bathroom visits, and end it with "and the point is, yesterday I got mugged". There wasn't even any coherence to each part of the story. It was just "I did this, then I did this, then I quit for a while, then I went back, then I got a new ship, then I bought some more ships, then I, then I...". Whoever it was on this thread that said you're a good writer needs to get out of the game and read more. Sorry, I usually don't post inflammatory posts, but I'm actually angry that I took the time to read that drivel. Oh, and by the way, I call BS. Despite pages and pages of in depth analysis of how great he is in Eve, there's only a cursory explanation of "someone was in my house...repeated times". Also, if someone had physical access to your system, they wouldn't need to exploit IE security holes to install a keylogger. They would just...install it. But why am I picking out these particular points...the whole story is garbage. I praise CCP for not buying this load of space-baloney. Oh noes you might be called a troll now....
Mitten Caldari Hellbound Saints	Posted - 2006.08.17 02:18:00 - [45] Originally by: darklegionca Originally by: Stephen Katze How very sad...that I just wasted two hours of my life reading a pointless BS story. Seriously. You basically just wrote about everything you've done in Eve, and then hit us with something COMPLETELY unrelated in the end. I might as well tell you my life story, including bathroom visits, and end it with "and the point is, yesterday I got mugged". There wasn't even any coherence to each part of the story. It was just "I did this, then I did this, then I quit for a while, then I went back, then I got a new ship, then I bought some more ships, then I, then I...". Whoever it was on this thread that said you're a good writer needs to get out of the game and read more. Sorry, I usually don't post inflammatory posts, but I'm actually angry that I took the time to read that drivel. Oh, and by the way, I call BS. Despite pages and pages of in depth analysis of how great he is in Eve, there's only a cursory explanation of "someone was in my house...repeated times". Also, if someone had physical access to your system, they wouldn't need to exploit IE security holes to install a keylogger. They would just...install it. But why am I picking out these particular points...the whole story is garbage. I praise CCP for not buying this load of space-baloney. Oh noes you might be called a troll now.... Fear not, his alt cred is strong yet.
Ms Muneca AYDS	Posted - 2006.08.17 02:22:00 - [46] at least the person responsible is in jail. ----------- ----------- -----------
Stephen Katze	Posted - 2006.08.17 02:38:00 - [47] Originally by: Mitten Originally by: darklegionca Originally by: Stephen Katze How very sad...that I just wasted two hours of my life reading a pointless BS story. Seriously. You basically just wrote about everything you've done in Eve, and then hit us with something COMPLETELY unrelated in the end. I might as well tell you my life story, including bathroom visits, and end it with "and the point is, yesterday I got mugged". There wasn't even any coherence to each part of the story. It was just "I did this, then I did this, then I quit for a while, then I went back, then I got a new ship, then I bought some more ships, then I, then I...". Whoever it was on this thread that said you're a good writer needs to get out of the game and read more. Sorry, I usually don't post inflammatory posts, but I'm actually angry that I took the time to read that drivel. Oh, and by the way, I call BS. Despite pages and pages of in depth analysis of how great he is in Eve, there's only a cursory explanation of "someone was in my house...repeated times". Also, if someone had physical access to your system, they wouldn't need to exploit IE security holes to install a keylogger. They would just...install it. But why am I picking out these particular points...the whole story is garbage. I praise CCP for not buying this load of space-baloney. Oh noes you might be called a troll now.... Fear not, his alt cred is strong yet. This isn't an alt. I'm a new Eve player, and a friend of mine sent me this to laugh at. But, I don't need to actually know anything about the game to smell BS. And I smell BS. I was thinking about it more, and this is what this moron is claiming: 1.The person was in his house and installed a keylogger that inexplicably uses IE security holes, yet must be installed physically (if you're an admin, you can install ANYTHING). 2.The person took his hardcopy sheet with all of his account (but no passwords...why does he even have such a sheet??? He needs to remember that he actually HAS an account?) 3.The person used the keylogger to steal his Eve Online password...but...only his Eve Online password. 4.The person then..and here's the kicker...sold his Eve Online characters and sent the money to HIS account 5.Then, somehow he got his ATM card AND PIN (not explained, since it's not on the hardcopy listing all of his accounts but no passwords)and took the money from his own account. This is besides the fact that he admits he quit many times before...admit isn't the right word actually-he verbosely details each quitting..., he admits he waited to post this just to be sure (of what?). On top of all that, this is a LOT of trouble the person went through when they could have just as easily stolen the money other ways if they had a keylogger installed. I think not only should CCP put a suspension on this account, but also personally kick him in the crotch for wasting all of our time and bandwidth on this stupidity.
Powder Monkey	Posted - 2006.08.17 03:15:00 - [48] Originally by: ArcticShadow Originally by: Powder Monkey Nobody's trolling, but the op poster begged for $ in the other 2 threads! WTF I hardly call what was in the removed portion begging for money. It was telling everyone how much I worked over the two months to get enough money back that was stolen so I could still enroll in college this semester. I said if you liked the story and wanted to help you could donate, and left a link to do so. That link however is against fourm rules I learned, and took it out. Wrangler had a cached version and did not see the link removed, hence the second post was locked. The only reason I put the link in originally was because, unlike you, some people accually have a heart and care. Have a heart and care? Do you care about my/his/her/their problems, do you wish to donate to some mysterious fund of physco monkeys? Face it: events like that happens every single day, you're somehow special? For wasting 3 years playing a game and you deserve more than you get? Get a job.
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.17 04:40:00 - [49] Interesting and dishearteneing story. Identity theft is one of the worst things that can happen to someone. I hope you can get your characters back.. keep pushing the issue in the community and CCP will be helpless to resist. Also its probably Brigitte from S.A.S you're talking about in that part of the story. -----------
dantes inferno Caldari Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.17 06:37:00 - [50] Quote: I don't need to actually know anything about the game to smell BS. And I smell BS. then try changing your underware..might solve that problem. the point in the tale it ro reminice over past events and show how much that character meant to him, how much time and effort he spent building it up. now a noob like yourself might not relise how attached you can get to your character after spending 2/3 yrs playing the game (basicaly the guy has had 3 yrs of work stolen of him). if you dont like what you read, dont read it dont post like a brainles idiot. and to the original troll here, you may of read the story...but its obvious you have next to no reading comprehension skills. _____ They were monsters. They rode across the world we knew and brough terror, and death. Where they were, life ceased. They were without mercy. They were without fear - They were MASS
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.17 07:10:00 - [51] Edited by: Andrue on 17/08/2006 07:13:29 Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: darklegionca Edited by: darklegionca on 16/08/2006 23:48:33 then all im going to say is you sir are a fracking moron for leaving documents like that out in the open for people to see your just lucky they didnt do id theft to you next time dont be a dumbass and leave stuff like that lieing around y dont u stop trolling and read it u piece of crap, he did get his identity stolen, but he didn't have his passwords on that piece of paper, the passwords were taken from a keylogger that someone put on his computer. While I agree that the previous poster is being a bit harsh he does have a point. That sheet of paper might not have given all of the information away but it gave half of it. It told the thief what accounst to target, saved him the bother of trying to work out the user name and quite probably gave him some insight as to how the OP thought which would help with guessing passwords. Any security expert would agree that storing any account information that way is very, very bad. They just wouldn't be a rude little boy when telling you about it. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
Stephen Katze	Posted - 2006.08.17 07:19:00 - [52] Edited by: Stephen Katze on 17/08/2006 07:19:46 Originally by: dantes inferno Quote: I don't need to actually know anything about the game to smell BS. And I smell BS. then try changing your underware..might solve that problem. the point in the tale it ro reminice over past events and show how much that character meant to him, how much time and effort he spent building it up. now a noob like yourself might not relise how attached you can get to your character after spending 2/3 yrs playing the game (basicaly the guy has had 3 yrs of work stolen of him). if you dont like what you read, dont read it dont post like a brainles idiot. and to the original troll here, you may of read the story...but its obvious you have next to no reading comprehension skills. Good comeback on the underware(sic) comment. Did you get that one from the playground? Guess what, if someone is going to come and post obvious BS to SOLICIT MONEY, I'm going to respond to it. If YOU don't like it, then maybe YOU shouldn't post like a brainless idiot. Better yet, send him money. Please. And I'm well aware how attached one can become to a character in an MMO. But that still doesn't make it a good story. Nor does it make his verbose description of EVERYTHING he has done in the game have any connection to the end of his tripe. Nor does it make the end of his long account true, for that matter. But again, if you're so enamored by his story, send him money. That's what he posted for in the first place. And for God's sake, get some spelling and punctuation skills before you criticize someone on their comprehension and intelligence. It's embarassing.
Kuolematon Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.08.17 07:42:00 - [53] I wonder why people has to write down their passwd's?! I have to remember around 50 passwords. Inwork admins passwds for multiple systems and my own passwds. Never I had to write 'em down. Silly you people Unnerf Amarr! "Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
Elliott Manchild omen.	Posted - 2006.08.17 08:08:00 - [54] A real shame that you lost your character. hopefully now you will get your character back. GL.
Jan Riksma Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.08.17 09:03:00 - [55] I'm a strong believer in innocent untill proven quillty. If the OP can prove with police reports that the guy is really caught and in jail, i have no boubt he will get his money back and CCP has no choice other then to give his chars back. So why wtf are people kicking the OP while he is down. Hope you are not lying and good luck getting your stuff back. Cheers, Jan
Frozen Wolf	Posted - 2006.08.17 10:48:00 - [56] Originally by: Stephen Katze Originally by: Mitten Originally by: darklegionca Originally by: Stephen Katze How very sad...that I just wasted two hours of my life reading a pointless BS story. Seriously. You basically just wrote about everything you've done in Eve, and then hit us with something COMPLETELY unrelated in the end. I might as well tell you my life story, including bathroom visits, and end it with "and the point is, yesterday I got mugged". There wasn't even any coherence to each part of the story. It was just "I did this, then I did this, then I quit for a while, then I went back, then I got a new ship, then I bought some more ships, then I, then I...". Whoever it was on this thread that said you're a good writer needs to get out of the game and read more. Sorry, I usually don't post inflammatory posts, but I'm actually angry that I took the time to read that drivel. Oh, and by the way, I call BS. Despite pages and pages of in depth analysis of how great he is in Eve, there's only a cursory explanation of "someone was in my house...repeated times". Also, if someone had physical access to your system, they wouldn't need to exploit IE security holes to install a keylogger. They would just...install it. But why am I picking out these particular points...the whole story is garbage. I praise CCP for not buying this load of space-baloney. Oh noes you might be called a troll now.... Fear not, his alt cred is strong yet. This isn't an alt. I'm a new Eve player, and a friend of mine sent me this to laugh at. But, I don't need to actually know anything about the game to smell BS. And I smell BS. I was thinking about it more, and this is what this moron is claiming: 1.The person was in his house and installed a keylogger that inexplicably uses IE security holes, yet must be installed physically (if you're an admin, you can install ANYTHING). 2.The person took his hardcopy sheet with all of his account (but no passwords...why does he even have such a sheet??? He needs to remember that he actually HAS an account?) 3.The person used the keylogger to steal his Eve Online password...but...only his Eve Online password. 4.The person then..and here's the kicker...sold his Eve Online characters and sent the money to HIS account 5.Then, somehow he got his ATM card AND PIN (not explained, since it's not on the hardcopy listing all of his accounts but no passwords)and took the money from his own account. This is besides the fact that he admits he quit many times before...admit isn't the right word actually-he verbosely details each quitting..., he admits he waited to post this just to be sure (of what?). On top of all that, this is a LOT of trouble the person went through when they could have just as easily stolen the money other ways if they had a keylogger installed. I think not only should CCP put a suspension on this account, but also personally kick him in the crotch for wasting all of our time and bandwidth on this stupidity.
Azulios Incarnation of Evil	Posted - 2006.08.17 10:53:00 - [57] What is with all these begging/scams for real cash of late on the forums? It's not enough that we need to cope with being scammed for ISK, now we need to contend with this sort of drivvel. These posts have no place on these forums.
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.17 10:54:00 - [58] Originally by: Stephen Katze Originally by: Mitten Originally by: darklegionca Originally by: Stephen Katze How very sad...that I just wasted two hours of my life reading a pointless BS story. Seriously. You basically just wrote about everything you've done in Eve, and then hit us with something COMPLETELY unrelated in the end. I might as well tell you my life story, including bathroom visits, and end it with "and the point is, yesterday I got mugged". There wasn't even any coherence to each part of the story. It was just "I did this, then I did this, then I quit for a while, then I went back, then I got a new ship, then I bought some more ships, then I, then I...". Whoever it was on this thread that said you're a good writer needs to get out of the game and read more. Sorry, I usually don't post inflammatory posts, but I'm actually angry that I took the time to read that drivel. Oh, and by the way, I call BS. Despite pages and pages of in depth analysis of how great he is in Eve, there's only a cursory explanation of "someone was in my house...repeated times". Also, if someone had physical access to your system, they wouldn't need to exploit IE security holes to install a keylogger. They would just...install it. But why am I picking out these particular points...the whole story is garbage. I praise CCP for not buying this load of space-baloney. Oh noes you might be called a troll now.... Fear not, his alt cred is strong yet. This isn't an alt. I'm a new Eve player, and a friend of mine sent me this to laugh at. But, I don't need to actually know anything about the game to smell BS. And I smell BS. I was thinking about it more, and this is what this moron is claiming: 1.The person was in his house and installed a keylogger that inexplicably uses IE security holes, yet must be installed physically (if you're an admin, you can install ANYTHING). 2.The person took his hardcopy sheet with all of his account (but no passwords...why does he even have such a sheet??? He needs to remember that he actually HAS an account?) 3.The person used the keylogger to steal his Eve Online password...but...only his Eve Online password. 4.The person then..and here's the kicker...sold his Eve Online characters and sent the money to HIS account 5.Then, somehow he got his ATM card AND PIN (not explained, since it's not on the hardcopy listing all of his accounts but no passwords)and took the money from his own account. This is besides the fact that he admits he quit many times before...admit isn't the right word actually-he verbosely details each quitting..., he admits he waited to post this just to be sure (of what?). On top of all that, this is a LOT of trouble the person went through when they could have just as easily stolen the money other ways if they had a keylogger installed. I think not only should CCP put a suspension on this account, but also personally kick him in the crotch for wasting all of our time and bandwidth on this stupidity. I'm no computer expert, and so the reason I mentioned IE is because I dont know exactly how key loggers work. I figured since IE has minamal security and only covers up what you type in asterics it does not protect against key loggers. I have a diffrent password for paypal, ebay, e-mail, and eve. And like I mentioned in the story, I was out of town so most of my stuff was left at home, including my debit card. I dont know how he got my pin, it was completly unrelated to the other passwords, but he did. That is the reason he got caught though, he got greedy again and tried to access my account again.
1234fadf	Posted - 2006.08.17 11:05:00 - [59] So this guy breaks into your house to steal your eve online password? not your tv/dvd/pc? oooook.....
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.17 11:08:00 - [60] Originally by: 1234fadf So this guy breaks into your house to steal your eve online password? not your tv/dvd/pc? oooook..... Uhm, yeah... Thinking it's a much much easier crime to get away with??? Obviously someone who knew how much those characters were worth? Someone with MMO experience that "knows the drill"? I can't say I fully believe the story, but I can't put it past a "friend" who is hard up for cash to do this, or just do it out of spite, etc... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Fracking Beach	Posted - 2006.08.17 11:16:00 - [61] Originally by: Kuolematon I wonder why people has to write down their passwd's?! I have to remember around 50 passwords. Inwork admins passwds for multiple systems and my own passwds. Never I had to write 'em down. Silly you people ... (what if) one day you get into an accident and your IT coworkers at work will thank you for not having written down those admins passwds for multiple systems.
Stephen HB Mystical Knights	Posted - 2006.08.17 11:32:00 - [62] Originally by: Stephen Katze How very sad...that I just wasted two hours of my life reading a pointless BS story. It took you two hours? What are you, six years old? It's like 3 pages long! ArcticWolf/Shadow, my sympathies on your situation, identity theft is only getting worse lately. Glad the culprit was caught, hope you get your accounts back. ---------- Signature core stabiliser II activated. This sig is immune to mod tampering! Rawr! EVE Tracking Guide
StewDaddy	Posted - 2006.08.17 11:41:00 - [63] I wish ccp would put your charaters back into play for you I would hope that they would do the same for me if somthing along these lines happened. Far as proof i dont see what a police report paypal records and a couple calls to the police station and paypal to comfirm the info would not be enough to get your chars back i would like to see a dev post on this and explain why because it sounds like to me that you have everything to back up the story. I also saw that you said ccp is helping you buy given ya +2 implants come on thats like ok bud you begged enough and i guess will help you with some 10mil isk worth of implants wow what a big help. Basicly what i am tryin to say is please ccp look at the proof he can provide and do the right thing here because i would hope you would do the same for me and all in all i know this is just a game but this is one of the most intesive games on the market today with the huge steep time sink it takes and for 3 years to be snatched away after you molding your char to elite perfection and the minning and ratting and everything it took to get there just lost in a instance. Anyways I could go on and on but please ccp do the right thing here as long as he can give you the proof its just a couple calls to confirm it ty bye.
Eta Carinea Itchy Trigger Finger Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.17 12:08:00 - [64] I am only a year into the game but would be pretty devistated if it happened to me. Your story states how enthusiastic you are for the game clearly something has happened beyond your control. I hope CCP looks again at your case Good luck with your plight. Eta Quid Si Coelum Ruat
Epsilon 1	Posted - 2006.08.17 14:50:00 - [65] Originally by: Firane Interesting and dishearteneing story. Identity theft is one of the worst things that can happen to someone. I hope you can get your characters back.. keep pushing the issue in the community and CCP will be helpless to resist. Also its probably Brigitte from S.A.S you're talking about in that part of the story. You win this thread, mate What a waste of time Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
Lord Dynastron	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:05:00 - [66] Edited by: Lord Dynastron on 17/08/2006 19:06:42 Originally by: Stephen HB It took you two hours? What are you, six years old? It's like 3 pages long! Hehe,, I was wondering the same thing. Took me just a few minutes.... anywho.... Fraud is fraud,,, it should not matter what was bought or sold via PayPal... if the account is comprimised for whatever reason, there should be some type of insurance to address that sort of scenario. Your wallet gets stolen, you are covered. Your password gets stolen, you are not? Just seems weird to me.
Byzan Zwyth	Posted - 2006.08.17 22:24:00 - [67] far out, great story. Sorry about what happened, I really hope you get your account back. Cant see why CCP cant at least have a look at the police report and open the accounts. I have to wonder who it was that did it though. Must have been someone you know IRL? dont know if you can say who it was or not... ---------------------- Gallente Cruiser Pilot
Down Range	Posted - 2006.08.17 22:29:00 - [68] Originally by: darklegionca the fact this moron posted it again when it was locked was more then enough the mods should be locking this one anytime now How does it feel to be as stupid as you are? I'm just curious.
voodoo Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.18 00:48:00 - [69] wow man that sucks. seems like with the police report maybe ccp can get this solved for you. just outta curiosity, you said the guy grabbed your debit card from your house. did that have a visa or mastercard logo on it? and also why did you leave on vacation without it? was this someone you knew? or jsut a random thief.. just curious to that. **ty luck, ty for the memories. Glad they caught that ***. gl in the future with this Ill follow this thread to see what happens The Blue Pills Make Me Happy
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.18 17:44:00 - [70] Originally by: StewDaddy I wish ccp would put your charaters back into play for you I would hope that they would do the same for me if somthing along these lines happened. Far as proof i dont see what a police report paypal records and a couple calls to the police station and paypal to comfirm the info would not be enough to get your chars back i would like to see a dev post on this and explain why because it sounds like to me that you have everything to back up the story. I also saw that you said ccp is helping you buy given ya +2 implants come on thats like ok bud you begged enough and i guess will help you with some 10mil isk worth of implants wow what a big help. Basicly what i am tryin to say is please ccp look at the proof he can provide and do the right thing here because i would hope you would do the same for me and all in all i know this is just a game but this is one of the most intesive games on the market today with the huge steep time sink it takes and for 3 years to be snatched away after you molding your char to elite perfection and the minning and ratting and everything it took to get there just lost in a instance. Anyways I could go on and on but please ccp do the right thing here as long as he can give you the proof its just a couple calls to confirm it ty bye. No I was talking about my corp. I didnt ask them for anything, but they still gave me a few implants to at least get started
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.18 17:46:00 - [71] Originally by: voodoo wow man that sucks. seems like with the police report maybe ccp can get this solved for you. just outta curiosity, you said the guy grabbed your debit card from your house. did that have a visa or mastercard logo on it? and also why did you leave on vacation without it? was this someone you knew? or jsut a random thief.. just curious to that. **ty luck, ty for the memories. Glad they caught that ***. gl in the future with this Ill follow this thread to see what happens I also have a credit card, and I was using that to get some cashback on all the spending, so I left the other debit (with credit card logo) "safe" at home. And the person was no friend of mine, but more of a friend of a friend who was in my house once, and who I showed my character too and explained how eve worked.
voodoo Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.18 20:03:00 - [72] Originally by: ArcticShadow I also have a credit card..so I left the other debit (with credit card logo) "safe" at home. And the person was no friend of mine, but more of a friend of a friend who was in my house once, and who I showed my character too .. got ya man this sux the big one hope ccp really looks at this for you and hooks you back up. stay positive and keep on them nicely ofc. will follow it for sure. gl The Blue Pills Make Me Happy
Metis Aote	Posted - 2006.08.18 20:57:00 - [73] Originally by: 1234fadf So this guy breaks into your house to steal your eve online password? not your tv/dvd/pc? oooook..... Tv - what about 50 buck at a pawn shop dvd player - about 10 pc - probably more, but what account with that much stuff... couple of thousand. Which would you steal
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.18 21:01:00 - [74] Originally by: Metis Aote Originally by: 1234fadf So this guy breaks into your house to steal your eve online password? not your tv/dvd/pc? oooook..... Tv - what about 50 buck at a pawn shop dvd player - about 10 pc - probably more, but what account with that much stuff... couple of thousand. Which would you steal There is also an issue of walking out of someone else's house with a TV, DVD player, Stereo, and computer... it looks just a little bit suspicious. While electronicly transfering some files and walking away with a thumb drive looks pretty normal. My guess is that our freind here lives in a house/apartment that is frequented by many people ranging from cool to unsavory. I've been there and done that. I'm telling you, deadbolt your door. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.08.18 22:33:00 - [75] CCP do the right thing! Give him his char back! (Provided he shows proof =P ) CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| ..SIN is closed.New sig coming soon!
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.19 14:48:00 - [76] Thank you for your positive support, and when Kieron gets back from Gencon hopefully this can be resolved. I updated the first message in response to all the hostile replies that have been left.
Therin Dracul	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:23:00 - [77] Quote: ... (what if) one day you get into an accident and your IT coworkers at work will thank you for not having written down those admins passwds for multiple systems. Dont be silly. the #1 one rule for computer security is to make the computer itself PHYSICALLY secure. if they can actually lay hands on your machine unattended for any serious length of time, no security software in the world is going to save you if the intruder has a clue. Someone broke into his house and stole his stuff/installed a keylogger. while most keyloggers can be detected by av software, there are numerous ones that cant be. Things like root kits and such. There are even devices you can stick inside the case that can pass casual inspection by someone who doesnt know what to look for.
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.22 21:38:00 - [78] Here is something to watch during the long patch downtime. My Story
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.08.22 21:39:00 - [79] Here is something to watch during the long patch downtime. My Story
Cattraknoff Caldari Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.04 15:38:00 - [80] Just read this, really sucks that this happened to you, dude. I remember flying with you back when you were in m0o. I was in TLBC back then. Hope everything works out for ya mate.
ArcticShadow	Posted - 2006.09.05 03:41:00 - [81] Originally by: Cattraknoff Just read this, really sucks that this happened to you, dude. I remember flying with you back when you were in m0o. I was in TLBC back then. Hope everything works out for ya mate. I remember you too, and since I have yet to get another mail since the one of over a month ago I assume my issue is low priority compared to the server stability and upcoming patch. In the meantime I have continued to play with this character, and reactivated my character ShadowWo1f which was on a seperate account. He only has a few million skillpoints, but it's something! My Story
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.09.05 13:01:00 - [82] I'm sorry but I'm not buying this lame story for one second. After all the bogus reminiscing and pleading for money, the only thing I think happened was that ArcticShadow was caught selling his character on eBay. I'm sorry but without any proof what-so-ever, I will remain thinking that. Ruined your life? Man, get a spine.
ArcticShadow Gallente Rome SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.08 21:02:00 - [83] Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane I'm sorry but I'm not buying this lame story for one second. After all the bogus reminiscing and pleading for money, the only thing I think happened was that ArcticShadow was caught selling his character on eBay. I'm sorry but without any proof what-so-ever, I will remain thinking that. Ruined your life? Man, get a spine. The reason why I said ruined my life was because of the chargebacks I had lost the thousands of dollars I had saved up for college. In a month and a half I managed with two jobs full time to get enough money back to enroll in college. However I still have to work full time and go to school full time in order to be prepared for next semester. As for proof, I have tried to post things, but discusson of the petetions status any further than what I have said results in a deleted post. --- ArcticWolf, member of Eve since February, 2003. My Story
Gonada Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.08 21:11:00 - [84] Ruined your life? Man, get a spine. -------------------------------------- bartholowhatever, grow up noob -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.08 22:07:00 - [85] fantastic writing man sad ending though, if its possible ccp should take this as an exceptional case and come to some agreement as far as replacing your char / stuff failing that… +50 implants for ArcticWolf!!! --- Congratulations!... You just read my signature.
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.08 22:09:00 - [86] Originally by: Gonada Ruined your life? Man, get a spine. -------------------------------------- bartholowhatever, grow up noob QFT --- Congratulations!... You just read my signature.
Kharthraal	Posted - 2006.09.08 23:03:00 - [87] I am sorry for what has happened to you. I can only say that CCP is making this kind of things happen more and more. By promoting cheating, stealing, lies and betrayals in game, they dont think doing anything wrong. But when people DO use real time and money in this game, the damage done is more real than thought. The worse the damage, the more it is praised and admired as an achievement. We all must know how much real time and money is in this game. Police knows that even mafia and criminals alike have come into this business. This is one of the first more famous examples of what surely will follow. When the games grow to be something worth real money, there will be real crimes. And EVE being a ultra-low morale game, is just ironic. I just wish games could be games only. EVE is not just a game anymore. Its virtual reality has more and more REAL consequences to real life. Losing in game is losing REAL MONEY. It being a game does not make a crime in game to a crime in the real world. Just the loss of victims is real money. Btw. what is the current value of ISK. 150 euros for a billion ISK? And an 3 year old account 3100 USD? I know CCP does not allow selling game currency or accounts, but if you check the reality you know it happens. Virtuality and reality now have a solid connection, game currency has an exchange rate. And the sums involved are big enough for it to attract real criminals. Luckily I have not lost much in EVE. I am sorry for those who have.
Taaketa Frist The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.08 23:42:00 - [88] Sucks man. But I guess theres nothing you can do it about it. I hope you beef up your home security... but seriously one single sheet with all your life info on it? I know some people have trouble remembering their accounts etc but theres ways to mask, hide them even. I dunno what it is about ym brain but I can look at a number that is important to me (such as my National Insurance number, Bank account number, licence plate, mobile number) and will be able to recall it within a few days and then from then it'll be in the forefront of my mind. But yeah, no more single sheets? -------------- Dang nabit
Lintaka Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.09 00:20:00 - [89] Hi there, read through your story, very compelling and heartfelt.. Apart from a couple of holes in the story that does get me thinking, I think your story could be true, shame on you if it isnÆt though. IÆm just a bystander so it shouldnÆt matter on the subject though. Defiantly pulls on my strings, as after 3 years of play I am very attached to my character and wouldnÆt wish this upon anyone who has spent so much time ôbeingö apart of our online universe, to others who read this and think how can some one become so attached, then you donÆt realise that EVE can become more than a game, you make real life friends from it, its with you in the background constantly, and its not like another game that just gets put onto the pile of games that have long passed. Yes I do have a life and no I donÆt spend it all on EVE, but that doesnÆt mean EVE isnÆt apart of my life, just like it is to many others. So if this is true then good luck with fighting to get yourself back. ---------- Gotta be on the ball.. ball? what ball.. that ball.. which ball.. AHH BALL!!
darklegionca Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.09.09 00:39:00 - [90] why would you people bring this load of crap back from the dead it needs to be locked and encased in concrete so it can nvr come back up to the front
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.09 01:13:00 - [91] Christ, bad luck indeed, hope everything gets sorted out and your chars returned, and returned with everything exactly how it was left as well. CEO - Art of War
Cattraknoff Caldari Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.09 02:09:00 - [92] Originally by: darklegionca why would you people bring this load of crap back from the dead it needs to be locked and encased in concrete so it can nvr come back up to the front I wonder why you don't post with your main? oh thats right, because you'd probably be podded repeatedly for being a ******* idiot.
Alessar Kaldorei Caldari Free Space Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.09 05:12:00 - [93] Originally by: darklegionca why would you people bring this load of crap back from the dead it needs to be locked and encased in concrete so it can nvr come back up to the front Why does it bother you so much to see it, anyway? Ok, you think it's a load of BS or whatever, but what's the problem? Why all the negativeness? If you don't like to see the thread, just don't post on it and it'll go down eventually. Just let it be and go on with your life with a happy attitude. Forumites need to learn to relax.
Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2006.09.09 21:49:00 - [94] If he can actually prove that it was stolen, then yes, he should get his account back. CCP should realize that it is people like this guy, who have been playing since the beginning, who make EvE a great game. EvE would be NOTHING without the player base. Retrieving his character would show to me that CCP has good morals and a good spirit, and my respect for CCP would increase tenfold. Because, in the end it doesn't matter if the product was good, but rather, if the people who made the product are good people.
Zarquon Beeblebrox Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.10 03:09:00 - [95] I feel for you man. What you have experienced is utterly wrong. Losing your character is like losing your family pictures. They cant be reproduced. I hope CCP are able to help you get back your char and into game. Personaly i could never play eve on a nother character then this. Iv put to much work into it and it define my life in eve. Good luck mate, you need it. -- Lady Beeblebrox

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