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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:15:39 -
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With the Phoebe release, to be published on November 4th, we will see a new fabulous feature requested by the player community: selling multiple items with one click, or short multisell!
Read all about this new feature coming to a market neary you in CCP Punkturis' latest dev blog Multisell all the things with Phoebe.
Addition: The blog has been updated to clarify that you still need skills to create sell orders at remote locations and that you cannot sell multiple items at once that are located in different stations.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:16:17 -
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sup spacebros o/
Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà
GÖÑ Team Banana Stand GÖÑ
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Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp The Bastion
361
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:17:10 -
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1st
Gé¼: damn, second.
Gé¼-¦: I like it. No more tedious hangar cleanups, just sell it all! |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
871
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:22:18 -
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multibuy and multi-ship assemble/fit when |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:23:59 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:multibuy and multi-ship assemble/fit when
you're welcome!
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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
743
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:24:37 -
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Nice interface, Punkturis! I tried this on sisi, but it was hard to do much testing due to the lack of buy orders.
Is there maybe a group of items we can standardize on sisi to do some major testing? Like some little used item with major buy orders for different types of prices?
That 'buy an entire ship fitting' idea is gold too. |
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers Rim Worlds Protectorate
154
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:25:25 -
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yay \o/ |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
871
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:26:09 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:TrouserDeagle wrote:multibuy and multi-ship assemble/fit when you're welcome!
you what m8 |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:28:36 -
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Kismeteer wrote:Nice interface, Punkturis! I tried this on sisi, but it was hard to do much testing due to the lack of buy orders.
Is there maybe a group of items we can standardize on sisi to do some major testing? Like some little used item with major buy orders for different types of prices?
That 'buy an entire ship fitting' idea is gold too.
I'll show your post to the Singularity experts
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Arcos Vandymion
White Beast Inc.
66
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:29:18 -
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EDIT: Derp - wrong thread |
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muhadin
Hard Knocks Inc. Irresponsible Use of Capital.
186
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:31:14 -
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This is by far one of the best little things yet, and I'm sure many veteran players have been wishing for it. Great work.
@CCP Punkturis: How long until you adapt this for Multibuy? As in for example being able to purchase an entire ships fitting from the saved fitting. Or even a way to copy and paste a list of mods/ships and the amount and being able just to click buy.
"Love the Life you Live, Live the Life you Love"
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:32:19 -
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muhadin wrote:This is by far one of the best little things that I'm sure many veteran players have been wishing for. Great work.
@CCP Punkturis: How long until you adapt this for Multibuy? As in for example being able to purchase an entire ships fitting from the saved fitting. Or even a way to copy and paste a list of mods/ships and the amount and being able just to click buy.
this is hardly a little thing but thank you
we have no plans for multi buy yet
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5384
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:33:46 -
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Fantastic!
Buying an entire ship fitting in the same manner would be marvelous as well.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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muhadin
Hard Knocks Inc. Irresponsible Use of Capital.
186
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:35:16 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:this is hardly a little thing but thank you we have no plans for multi buy yet
Heh well maybe one day. Keep up the good work.
"Love the Life you Live, Live the Life you Love"
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
2527
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:35:56 -
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*clap clap clap*
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Manic Velocity
Scout's Regiment
61
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:35:59 -
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Quote:You will also be able to sell items from any station in the region you're located in. However, you won't be able to sell items from multiple stations at once.
So if I'm docked up in Jita, I can open my Assets window and sell a stack of items that I have sitting in Poinen?
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Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
325
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:37:29 -
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Jita will tremble. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:37:58 -
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Manic Velocity wrote:Quote:You will also be able to sell items from any station in the region you're located in. However, you won't be able to sell items from multiple stations at once. So if I'm docked up in Jita, I can open my Assets window and sell a stack of items that I have sitting in Poinen?
you can already do that, but only with a single item at once
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350125GO
Transcendent Sedition Protean Concept
119
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:38:24 -
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Manic Velocity wrote:Quote:You will also be able to sell items from any station in the region you're located in. However, you won't be able to sell items from multiple stations at once. So if I'm docked up in Jita, I can open my Assets window and sell a stack of items that I have sitting in Poinen?
Is remote selling still skill-dependent?
You're young, you'll adjust.
I'm old, I'll get used to it.
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:42:29 -
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350125GO wrote:Manic Velocity wrote:Quote:You will also be able to sell items from any station in the region you're located in. However, you won't be able to sell items from multiple stations at once. So if I'm docked up in Jita, I can open my Assets window and sell a stack of items that I have sitting in Poinen? Is remote selling still skill-dependent?
yes, nothing has changed there.
Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà
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Ambo
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
135
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:43:33 -
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*wipes away tear
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Manic Velocity
Scout's Regiment
61
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:49:43 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Manic Velocity wrote:Quote:You will also be able to sell items from any station in the region you're located in. However, you won't be able to sell items from multiple stations at once. So if I'm docked up in Jita, I can open my Assets window and sell a stack of items that I have sitting in Poinen? you can already do that, but only with a single item at once
Forgot it was a skill dependent feature. I really should train those. :P
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@manicvelocity
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David Magnus
305
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:49:59 -
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So awesome, thank you!
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:51:57 -
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Manic Velocity wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Manic Velocity wrote:Quote:You will also be able to sell items from any station in the region you're located in. However, you won't be able to sell items from multiple stations at once. So if I'm docked up in Jita, I can open my Assets window and sell a stack of items that I have sitting in Poinen? you can already do that, but only with a single item at once Forgot it was a skill dependent feature. I really should train those. :P
yeah, it's been clarified in the dev blog, thanks for pointing it out
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Matthias Azaharel
Aideron Robotics
36
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:54:50 -
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Quote:Instead, if you have the duration set to immediate, all items will be sold immediately to a matching buy order without incurring a brokerGÇÖs fee. If there are no buy orders available for one or more items that you're selling, their backgrounds will be orange to indicate that the sale of that item will fail.
Out of curiosity, how does this interact with invalid margin buy orders (those for which the "buyer" has insufficient ISK to purchase the items)? |
Abulurd Boniface
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP Brave Collective
144
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:55:44 -
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This is feature is almost as beautiful as the developer who wrote the dev blog.
Also: this is going to be make selling stuff a lot easier!
Thank you. |
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
43
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:05:32 -
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+1 for the Multisell. Thank you guys.
Just one thing off the top of my head:
Would be great, if we could sell items out of containers. It's pretty inconvenient always having to move stuff from a container to the item hangar first, to be able to sell it. |
Floyd Farnsworth
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:06:42 -
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One suggestion: instead of the little red/green up/down triangles, could you not just display the percentage that the item is below/above regional average directly (even if it's a smaller font)?
The information that an item is above or below the average alone is almost meaningless until you know the percentage. If I'm selling multiple Items, the fact that an item is 2% above or 2% below average is meaningless, but I need to know if it is let's say 60% below average. Right now, I'd have to hover over each item I want to sell in the list to get this information. This diminishes the usefulness of the feature somewhat. |
enterprisePSI
286
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:08:56 -
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Punkturis is spoiling us! So when is multi-contracting?
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:14:31 -
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Punkturis, love the feature. My life is getting easier. \o/
One thing I am not clear on, that I'd like some clarification.
Let's say I am selling 100,000 of something (widget A)
There are two buy orders for Widget A 1. 76,000 @100 ISK 2. 15,000 @ 98 ISK.
Now, what I would expect to happen is one of the following:
A) I sell the 76,000, completing buy order 1, and the rest of my widget A falls back into my hangar. (which is the way the current sell order window works, essentially) B) I sell the 76,000 @ 100, the 15,000 @ 98, and the remaining 9,000 units fall back into my hangar.
Can you confirm which of those is the actual outcome?
A bitter vet trying to start anew.
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Theresa Khayleth
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:15:37 -
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Floyd Farnsworth wrote:One suggestion: instead of the little red/green up/down triangles, could you not just display the percentage that the item is below/above regional average directly (even if it's a smaller font)? That was my first thought, too. The multisell feature is already great, but displaying the actual percentages would make it absolutely fantastic. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
1068
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:16:54 -
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There is always money in the banana stand.
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David Kir
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
476
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:17:29 -
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we wuw you, CCP Punkturis
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
717
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:20:40 -
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Woohoo!!! Also the forums seem to have changed.
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod
- Mara Rinn
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MeigsYan
Antarian Rangers
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:24:36 -
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Damjan Fox wrote:+1 for the Multisell. Thank you guys. Just one thing off the top of my head: Would be great, if we could sell items out of containers. It's pretty inconvenient always having to move stuff from a container to the item hangar first, to be able to sell it.
Agreed, please consider letting us sell directly out of containers where we have all of our "loot for sale" items already organized. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2911
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:27:16 -
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what is the limit? how many items can you sell at once?
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1072
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:30:08 -
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Really pumped!!!
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:32:33 -
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Bienator II wrote:what is the limit? how many items can you sell at once?
if you're setting up sell orders it's based on your skills
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:33:39 -
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Matthias Azaharel wrote:Quote:Instead, if you have the duration set to immediate, all items will be sold immediately to a matching buy order without incurring a brokerGÇÖs fee. If there are no buy orders available for one or more items that you're selling, their backgrounds will be orange to indicate that the sale of that item will fail. Out of curiosity, how does this interact with invalid margin buy orders (those for which the "buyer" has insufficient ISK to purchase the items)?
the same as before. order fails if it's immediate but sets up a new sell order if it has duration.
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Tahnil
Sirius Fleet AXIOS.
50
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:42:55 -
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OMG. This is far better than I have hoped for. I think I'm in love *sweetie pie* |
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Alexa Machavela
Duragon Pioneer Group Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:45:02 -
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While this will be a great improvement, I do think the tooltip for detailed information is a bit lacking. When I sell items, I find the regional average is far less helpful than knowing the range of prices for buy and sell orders, and for the buy orders, which buy orders are within range (currently highlighted in green on the market window).
Until the highest and lowest buy and sell orders are listed, I will continue using the market order window and the market window both, and I will not be using the details tooltip at all.
Aside from that, I love what you're doing to this window. Switching from using dozens of windows to just one to do the same thing is almost always an improvement. |
Vic Vorlon
Aideron Robotics
22
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:45:11 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote: the same as before. order fails if it's immediate but sets up a new sell order if it has duration.
Perfect timing, I was about to ask about this. i'm a station trader and occasionally benefit from the mistakes of others :) I like that the new screen still preserves the ability of a seller to accidentally put up a sell order at a very low price, thx.
Oh, and +1 vote for putting the percentage above/below the current average price. There's a big difference between a 2% difference and a, say, 60% difference. Putting the same arrow on both is hiding information - the number would be much more useful. And no, please don't put it in a tooltip - I don't want to have to mouse over a lot of icons to gather the information I need.
This is a nice addition to the program, thanks Team Banana Stand! |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2911
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:47:39 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Bienator II wrote:what is the limit? how many items can you sell at once? if you're setting up sell orders it's based on your skills
so you can set up hundred at once if you have the skills and the window will support that?
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2919
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:52:57 -
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Nice, nice new feature. This will aid both the mission runner and the trader.
One thing that has always annoyed me. When I set a sell order, the price suggested by the client is never, ever, the price I want. I always have to view market details and re-set the price. Every single time for every single item. If I'm setting orders, this time consuming process makes multi-sell irrelevant. (Although it will still be quite useful when I'm just dumping a pile of mission loot at Jita.)
I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region.
In fact if you could just set the suggested price to be the best in the current station by 0.01 ISK rather than what it does currently, that would be good for a large fraction of the players. (If there is not order for that item in the current station, just have it do what it does now.)
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Bytestorm
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
27
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:55:25 -
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What I find disturbing, that if you set to "Immediate"-mode all the orange Items are included in the Total.
And +1 for the percentage instead of the icon (or next to the icon).
And last, but not least: I LOVE THIS FEATURE! GREAT WORK! |
Mikron Alexarr
New Age Solutions
93
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:57:33 -
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A small request:
On the current sell window, there is a quick click for showing market orders for the currently being sold item. Can we retain that? I usually will try to sell the item and then check the price it's being listed for against the current list of orders. When you aren't selling in Jita, that can be pretty important.
Also, you mentioned skills for the number of items to be sold at once.... are you adding a skill for increasing the number of items you can multisell? Or are you talking about the skills for number of currently active orders affecting the number of items you can multisell? |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
767
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:59:37 -
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Oh.... I love this Great feature.
Also.. BANANA
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Bytestorm
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
27
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:03:20 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region.
I don't like that idea. That should still be the "job" of the margin-trader. No one would use buy-orders again and none would fulfill.
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Schwa Nuts
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
70
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:04:28 -
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Shame on CCP for not sending CCP Punkturis to Vegas. |
Dwissi
Miners Delight
64
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:07:22 -
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That is one lovely thing to look at - well done indeed!! The pink pony strikes back
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Before someone complains again: grrr everyone
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2919
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:10:48 -
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Bytestorm wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region. I don't like that idea. That should still be the "job" of the margin-trader. No one would use buy-orders again and none would fulfill. Eve is not a job. It's a game.
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HC GularTog
HC Dude's Rough Riders
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:13:08 -
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Quote:muhadin wrote: This is by far one of the best little things that I'm sure many veteran players have been wishing for. Great work.
.... better late than never I say ..... only something we been wanting and asking for since beta, lol
CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the Company Motto...
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Par'Gellen
280
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:13:56 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Eve is not a job. It's a game. I..... but...... what?
CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto...
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland
850
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:14:16 -
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Kismeteer wrote:Nice interface, Punkturis! I tried this on sisi, but it was hard to do much testing due to the lack of buy orders.
Is there maybe a group of items we can standardize on sisi to do some major testing? Like some little used item with major buy orders for different types of prices?
That 'buy an entire ship fitting' idea is gold too.
NPC stuff like industrial goods.
"Remember remember the 4th of November!"
Phoebe. Coming soon to Eve Online.
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Feer Truelight
202
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:18:27 -
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Can we get the market detail button? So you get fast and easy to the market details like it is now?
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leeloodallas Multisell
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:18:53 -
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I approve of this product and/or service.
Also, WTB orange hair and white rubber suspenders. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
1132
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:23:49 -
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so totally awesome, thank you ccp!
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2911
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:28:55 -
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the X for removing the item is placed in the middle of the row which is a little intuitive. http://i.imgur.com/GuWs4s7.png having it left or right would be better IMO
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Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
35
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:40:36 -
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<3 will test on singularity soon.
Loot Buying service:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4529397#post4529397
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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
9
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:48:57 -
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I love the idea behind this but stand firm in that the "Regional Average" price is far from accurate. And in many cases needs further adjustment by the player to be actually meaningful which then negates the advantage of a multi-sell window. This is of course because they are using the same value as they give us for "Estimated Value".
Would be an interesting study to go through the market and list how much disparity there is between the "Suggested Price" and the actual lowest sell and highest buy, as well as they avg price for that day or the day before (the little yellow dot). I've seen throughout the game numerous items that were infact completely worthless that had such ridiculous estimated values to make them seem worthwhile, only because some tard had a stupid high sell order buried at the bottom of the market screen in the back end of the region.
So unless they change the accuracy of the value they are providing then I can picture a lot of these new multi-sell orders ending up halfway down the market screen because the information is so horribly incorrect, or in some cases they posted sell prices might actually be lower than a current buy order. And until this Regional Average/Estimated Price is changed to be what it should be, I will continue to right-click and check market orders on everything, negating what is otherwise a good step in the right direction.
But since the market info on Sisi is somewhat, uh, lacking, I see this will be very hard to test out unless someone with more time than me can do the comparison on all (or least least quite a lot of) the items on the markets currently. |
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HC GularTog
HC Dude's Rough Riders
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:56:57 -
[61] - Quote
... exactly, been telling some of the newer players in my Corp they really need to stop using the data provided ingame as its completely unusable and full of errors, you need to do the real work and check markets in real time only ...
CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the Company Motto...
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Qoi
Exert Force
102
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:01:34 -
[62] - Quote
Now rename the 30 Day Pilot's License Extension (PLEX) which can be used for multiple things MULTI PASS.
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Dwissi
Miners Delight
64
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:03:42 -
[63] - Quote
Qoi wrote:Now rename the 30 Day Pilot's License Extension (PLEX) which can be used for different things MULTI PASS.
Plex is an investment good and thats what it is actually used for. So no multi there - Gold has only one name as well. Source: go here minutes 16 to 17
I could agree on the deleting '30 days' though - but the base name is quite original.
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Jackson Apollo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:30:28 -
[64] - Quote
love the idea but...
my personal issue is not being able to sell the same item in multi stations.
when selling ammo in every highsec system in a region its a pain to manage.
why cant we multi sell the same thing in multi stations?
Can we meet in the middle and multi sell the same item in different stations or different items in 1 station?
pretty please with exotic dancers on top. |
Wizzard117
Viziam Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:33:32 -
[65] - Quote
Assume I want to immediately sell a stack of 2 items There's 1 buy order for 100 mil isk and 1 buy order for 0.01 isk for that item. I'm pesseing sell and what happens?
- 2 items being sold for 100.000.000.01 isk total - 1 item being sold for 100 mil, other returning to my hangar - 1 item being sold for 100 mil while the other going to market as 100mil sell order immediately - warning message like "the net amount of isk gained while selling these items is 50% lower than the best possible item. Proceed anyway Y/N" - message like "some items were not sold immediately by the requested price. Should we create sell-orders for the rest of them, sell by any price or return to your hangar?" - Jita server node crashes
Please clarify |
Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
35
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:36:20 -
[66] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:Bytestorm wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region. I don't like that idea. That should still be the "job" of the margin-trader. No one would use buy-orders again and none would fulfill. Eve is not a job. It's a game.
tbh if you don't like the default price ("which the highest buy order in range (that you can fill)") than you should be manually set the sell orders if you can't do that then sell to the highest buyorder (that is the convenient just a game option)... I personally dont want the game to play for me.
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Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
35
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:38:58 -
[67] - Quote
Wizzard117 wrote:Assume I want to immediately sell a stack of 2 items There's 1 buy order for 100 mil isk and 1 buy order for 0.01 isk for that item. I'm pesseing sell and what happens?
- 2 items being sold for 100.000.000.01 isk total - 1 item being sold for 100 mil, other returning to my hangar - 1 item being sold for 100 mil while the other going to market as 100mil sell order immediately - warning message like "the net amount of isk gained while selling these items is 50% lower than the best possible item. Proceed anyway Y/N" - message like "some items were not sold immediately by the requested price. Should we create sell-orders for the rest of them, sell by any price or return to your hangar?" - Jita server node crashes
Please clarify
1. Does not happen 2. Happens if you set the duration to immediate 3. Happens if you have a duration set to not immediate 4. Does not happen since 1 doesnt happen 5. Happens if your duration is not set to immediate (not the message part) 6. Only during DDoS
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Bytestorm
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
27
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:52:25 -
[68] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:Bytestorm wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region. I don't like that idea. That should still be the "job" of the margin-trader. No one would use buy-orders again and none would fulfill. Eve is not a job. It's a game.
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Ifodder
Couster Trading Company
2
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Posted - 2014.10.21 18:14:18 -
[69] - Quote
I have only seen a Youtube Video of this so my experience is somewhat limited but i wanted to add to the discussion as i do a lot of trading.
To be Honest it was not what i was expecting and i wonder if this Was done with region traders in mind or the player with a few odds n ends to sell?
I was quite exited about this until i read this in the Blog
"However, you won't be able to sell items from multiple stations at once"
This is a screenie from just a few items i have to sell
Piccy1
I have Thousands of items to sell, And to be honest i thought Multisell would allow me to select all of these Probes for example and put them on the Market at the price i wanted all in one go.
at the moment i would find the multiple items and copy & paste the prices in individually and then go through all the other single items. |
Jackson Apollo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 18:16:16 -
[70] - Quote
^----- that. |
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Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
35
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Posted - 2014.10.21 18:43:21 -
[71] - Quote
Ifodder wrote: I have Thousands of items to sell, And to be honest i thought Multisell would allow me to select all of these Probes for example and put them on the Market at the price i wanted all in one go.
Yes you want the game to do all the work for you... all in one go, as well as setting the price that you want..
How is the game supposed to know what price you want?
This feature is simple it takes the existing mechanics and allows you to batch your sell orders using the existing mechanics.
If you want to sell something you either sell it to the highest buyorder in range or set your own price which is how it works now.
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Ifodder
Couster Trading Company
2
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:00:13 -
[72] - Quote
Destitute Tehol Beddict wrote:Ifodder wrote: I have Thousands of items to sell, And to be honest i thought Multisell would allow me to select all of these Probes for example and put them on the Market at the price i wanted all in one go.
Yes you want the game to do all the work for you... all in one go, as well as setting the price that you want.. How is the game supposed to know what price you want? This feature is simple it takes the existing mechanics and allows you to batch your sell orders using the existing mechanics. If you want to sell something you either sell it to the highest buyorder in range or set your own price which is how it works now.
You misunderstand my point...
I don't want it to do the work for me, Far from it but with it being called Multisell i would have expected to be able to select the probes from the piccy for example & put in my price into a sell box and them sell them instead of doing it all individually.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
898
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:20:18 -
[73] - Quote
Great work! So much win! I saw it on SiSi earlier but I wasn't aware it would completely replace the existing window.
In light of this, please retain some sort of functionality where we can check the market listing for an item from the sell window. That button was really useful in the old window and it would be really great to still have it.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
898
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:22:20 -
[74] - Quote
Ifodder wrote:Destitute Tehol Beddict wrote:Ifodder wrote: I have Thousands of items to sell, And to be honest i thought Multisell would allow me to select all of these Probes for example and put them on the Market at the price i wanted all in one go.
Yes you want the game to do all the work for you... all in one go, as well as setting the price that you want.. How is the game supposed to know what price you want? This feature is simple it takes the existing mechanics and allows you to batch your sell orders using the existing mechanics. If you want to sell something you either sell it to the highest buyorder in range or set your own price which is how it works now. You misunderstand my point... I don't want it to do the work for me, Far from it but with it being called Multisell i would have expected to be able to select the probes from the piccy for example & put in my price into a sell box and them sell them instead of doing it all individually.
How exactly do you picture this working? Is the game supposed to read your mind and know what price you want for each item?
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
416
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:33:56 -
[75] - Quote
I see the old sell interface is still there, I take it it's not going to go away? If not, very good.
The size of the field where the number of items to be sold is displayed is rather small, only three numbers are visible. What's the design decision / idea behind this?
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Quintessen
Messengers of Judah Socius Inter Nos
416
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:34:28 -
[76] - Quote
Just trying to figure out what happens in this scenario:
1. I'm trying to sell a bunch of stuff and I drop the contents of my item hangar into the sell window. 2. I set the time to immediate which turns some items red. 3. I try and hit the sell button.
What I'd like is for the ones that can be sold immediately to sell immediately and the ones that cannot be to not be sold, but stay in the window. I could then set a time other than immediate and then sell the remainder. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
323
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:44:46 -
[77] - Quote
Settings are remembered "for your convenience"!?!
I have long lost track of the number of times I have to transfer funds out of the corp wallet to reimburse myself and others who have sold their own stuff without realising that they (or I) had checked the Save Settings box.
Saving settings is not convenient - at least not from my perspective.
I'd much rather settings were not saved than automatically saved but please give us the option. |
Olixia Castitatis
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
3
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:59:59 -
[78] - Quote
I have 700m of loot in Jita and I'm not selling it until after Phoebe.
Seriously **** the old interface |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
1341
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:01:55 -
[79] - Quote
Awesome !!
Quote:If there are no buy orders available for one or more items that you're selling, their backgrounds will be orange to indicate that the sale of that item will fail. Clicking sell while you have some items with no matching order will still work for any items with valid orders, and will return the ineligible items to your hanger.
Now about that part : I think that you'd make a lot of people happy by, in this situation, keeping orange items in the window instead of returning them to hangar. This way you can select a chunk of items, sell some of them through immediate sell orders, then without having to find these orange items again, place sell orders for them.
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Elmanketticks
aXis reborn Most Valuable Player
84
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:13:11 -
[80] - Quote
OH MY GOD I've been asking for this like since forever! My first proposal thread reaches back to November 2011! THANK YOU so much !
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Alundil
Isogen 5
725
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:18:54 -
[81] - Quote
I see what you did there.....
CCP Punkturis wrote:muhadin wrote:This is by far one of the best little things that I'm sure many veteran players have been wishing for. Great work.
@CCP Punkturis: How long until you adapt this for Multibuy? As in for example being able to purchase an entire ships fitting from the saved fitting. Or even a way to copy and paste a list of mods/ships and the amount and being able just to click buy.
this is hardly a little thing but thank you we have no plans for multi buy yet
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Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:43:42 -
[82] - Quote
And there i thought we might be able to set a minimum % for immediate sales as to really speed things up...
Use cases seem a bit synthetic so far, but good effort. |
Sir Livingston
Club Deadspace
259
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:50:18 -
[83] - Quote
MultiSell window doesn't function for me.
I'm in Jita 4-4 (plenty of buy orders), I have multiple items in the multisell window, I have 'Immediate' selected, and then I click the 'Sell' button, but...nothing happens. The multisell window acts as if I didn't click the 'Sell' button.
Also, I cannot remove an item from the multisell window and then add it back to the sale.
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HC GularTog
HC Dude's Rough Riders
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:55:28 -
[84] - Quote
LOL, too late .... beta testers been asking far longer for anything like this ...
CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the Company Motto...
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Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
93
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:57:21 -
[85] - Quote
This may be crazy and too much, but would it be possible to view orders by item type or item category in the station you are selling items? That kind of comparison is required for pricing items correctly. Since we have to do it anyway, such a feature would sure save a lot of clicking. Presently I have to be physically located in the station I'm selling in to reasonably make comparisons based on like and other items within a category/group.
I know that's probably hard to do without cluttering the UI. I just thought I'd throw the idea out there.
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XTbe
The Forge Industries
3
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:39:47 -
[86] - Quote
Love the new feature ! Didn't experiment yet that much with it but i would like to have a faster interaction with the market window.
Now I have to right-click and choose "View market details" would love to have a fsster link, like a button next to the item or something like that.
Keep up the good work guys ! |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
5506
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:03:36 -
[87] - Quote
Thank you Team Banana Stand!
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Echo Mande
66
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:20:13 -
[88] - Quote
All in all a much needed change and one I'm in favor of.
However, there is one thing I am desperately missing in all jobs (of any type) and that is the ability to set a remark that will be added to any wallet entries (and API pulls) for that job. Keeping track of ISK and materials used, spent and made in largish industrial projects (for instance ones start by running 400 invention jobs) is something that has only become more complex since the industrial changes and is something that looks to become even more complex (multiple ME/TE results) with Phoebe.
In terms of the market, adding remarks to orders should also allow easier tracking of multiple orders' income/expenditure within a single wallet (division) without resorting to complex hacks. Come think of it, adding them as an option to direct market actions also makes a lot of sense. I'm fairly certain any broker or merchant would like it.
@CCP Punkturis: Is there any chance of this being implemented soon? |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:44:39 -
[89] - Quote
A lot of you are posting to ask me to keep the button to view market details on item, you can still do that as stated in my dev blog (icon in the context being the delta icon)
Dev Blog wrote:If you click the icon you'll see market details on that item.
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Kyttn
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
6
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:57:30 -
[90] - Quote
I'd like to suggest that the X button (for deleting items from the sell window) be a permanent fixture on each item. I'd rather not have to hover around to try and find it if I'm going through a long list of items to remove those whose percentages are out of range of my liking |
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Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
35
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Posted - 2014.10.21 23:06:30 -
[91] - Quote
Hey the sell button is not working on sisi... I mean it looks all pretty but I cant actually sell the items in my hanger :(
@Kyttn its really obvious were it is
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Mrs Comfortable
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.10.21 23:27:47 -
[92] - Quote
So good Punkturis!
So hows about multiple buy orders?
Let us hoover up all the junk that's about to be sold! |
Cloon McCloon
Space Fukery
7
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Posted - 2014.10.21 23:30:58 -
[93] - Quote
LOVE this!
Ill probably get lynched for suggesting this, but this should be a SKILL. Higher its trained, the more you can multi-sell, or more options are available. Or have an additional fee when using this service, that if fully trained disappears. That way the bulk loot buyers may still have a job after the patch. |
Sir Livingston
Club Deadspace
259
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Posted - 2014.10.21 23:48:26 -
[94] - Quote
Destitute Tehol Beddict wrote:Hey the sell button is not working on sisi... I mean it looks all pretty but I cant actually sell the items in my hanger :( @Kyttn its really obvious were it is I'm experiencing the same problem.
"MultiSell window doesn't function for me.
I'm in Jita 4-4 (plenty of buy orders), I have multiple items in the multisell window, I have 'Immediate' selected, and then I click the 'Sell' button, but...nothing happens. The multisell window acts as if I didn't click the 'Sell' button.
Also, I cannot remove an item from the multisell window and then add it back to the sale."
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Nova Necro
Candidate Zero
3
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:45:03 -
[95] - Quote
The cursor isn't moving with the numbers in the sell box of my client.
Type a value in the sell box and the cursor will stay where you first clicked, press delete and it will jump to the end.
Also, why are the arrows inside the textbox it hides the last 1-X digits depending on the sum.... Which brings the next point, the box doesn't scale with value, anything over 10mil will make the last digits unreadable.
The same thing is still happening with dscan window |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
899
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:04:24 -
[96] - Quote
Whoops, must have read over that
All good then, awesome work. Carry on.
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1453
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Posted - 2014.10.22 02:20:41 -
[97] - Quote
I was promised a pink cat with this feature. I am disappointed.
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Zagdul
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1381
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Posted - 2014.10.22 05:48:07 -
[98] - Quote
nvm, good work. :)
still my favorite dev.
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Nerfed Alliance Go Away
786
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Posted - 2014.10.22 05:52:34 -
[99] - Quote
As a true eve player what you give in the pop up is not the same as a short cut to the full market listing of an item.
Without this option, the show info button and show in market button would have to be pressed each time someone wants to check on a item a little more thoroughly.
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Max Goldwing
NerdHerd The Explicit Alliance
11
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Posted - 2014.10.22 06:49:52 -
[100] - Quote
Jacob Holland wrote:Settings are remembered "for your convenience"!?!
I have long lost track of the number of times I have to transfer funds out of the corp wallet to reimburse myself and others who have sold their own stuff without realising that they (or I) had checked the Save Settings box.
Saving settings is not convenient - at least not from my perspective.
I'd much rather settings were not saved than automatically saved but please give us the option. +1 for keeping the "Remember settings" button that we currently have, so the user has control over just when the settings are remembered.
Saves you having to revert back every time you sell a few corp items or drop something at immediate instead of 3months etc. |
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Shamus en Divalone
The Clandestine Forge
25
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Posted - 2014.10.22 07:05:13 -
[101] - Quote
Excellent work!!!
*clap clap clap*
I agree with an X on everything unless the mouseover brings it up real fast! or The list can be organised by Meta level maybe? |
Frunje Elbris
Bovine Ltd.
5
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Posted - 2014.10.22 07:13:01 -
[102] - Quote
Hello, first I have to confess I don't have a way to access SISI [small harddrive :)] so my feedback is based on youtube video of the feature, but nevertheless:
Would it be possible to add more icons representing ratio of selected price and regional average? Like double arrow for more than 10 % difference and triple for more than 100 % difference (90 % and 10 % in case of lower price)? For example you may want to sell under average (due to bad location, or urgency), and this would provide way how to fast check you didn't missed one zero :)
Thanks! |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5462
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Posted - 2014.10.22 08:29:33 -
[103] - Quote
Frunje Elbris wrote:Hello, first I have to confess I don't have a way to access SISI [small harddrive :)] so my feedback is based on youtube video of the feature, but nevertheless:
Would it be possible to add more icons representing ratio of selected price and regional average? Like double arrow for more than 10 % difference and triple for more than 100 % difference (90 % and 10 % in case of lower price)? For example you may want to sell under average (due to bad location, or urgency), and this would provide way how to fast check you didn't missed one zero :)
Thanks!
good idea. I like to do something about displaying how high the % is
where is this video people keep talking about??
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5462
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Posted - 2014.10.22 08:43:45 -
[104] - Quote
For everyone having problems on Singularity, it should be better when we get a new build.
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Draahk Chimera
0ne Percent. Odin's Call
33
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Posted - 2014.10.22 08:54:02 -
[105] - Quote
Reposting two suggestions I have seen in this thread.
1. Could we please get the values of regional avarage directly on the window for each item? Like someone said 2% below is ok 60% below is not.
2. Could we please get the X to remove an item from the multisell that is permanent rather then having to hover for it?
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1622
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:09:43 -
[106] - Quote
CCP Punkturis wrote:where is this video people keep talking about?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4qE9U5rZRY Could be that one? Not sure. |
Genistein Yatolila
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:35:35 -
[107] - Quote
Awesome feature. Been waiting for this forever. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5463
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:39:06 -
[108] - Quote
Draahk Chimera wrote:Reposting two suggestions I have seen in this thread.
1. Could we please get the values of regional avarage directly on the window for each item? Like someone said 2% below is ok 60% below is not.
2. Could we please get the X to remove an item from the multisell that is permanent rather then having to hover for it?
1. I want to look into this, yes
2. you would have to hover over the item anyway to click the X and it's much cleaner to only show it on hover
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5463
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:39:38 -
[109] - Quote
thanks! that's a very old build though
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Angie Chatter
18
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:57:50 -
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@CCP Punkturis
From this video i still don't understand how this solves one of the main problems, while selling items and why it can be a extremely annoying click and wait nightmare.
Scenario: 150x item A 50x item B 30x Item C 70x Item D
Now i want to immediately sell all to buy orders, while achieving the maximal profit.
Current Steps: 1) right click item stack A-D 2) select sell from the menu 3) check price 4) hit enter/sell
We now need to repeat this for all stacks and depending on the available buy order volume, this can mean around 10-600 individual clicks. On top, if we click too fast you get a "Hold on, you have to wait xy seconds before you can continue" message every 10-30 seconds, with a wait time of 10-30 seconds per message. This means selling those stacks can end up taking 1-10 minutes.
This is a click-fest nightmare.
What i would expect from the new system: 1) add all stacks to this new sell window 2) enter a "minimal/threshold" sell price per item 3) hit enter/sell all
The system should now start filling the individual buy orders, until the minimum price is reached, at which point it setups sell orders or does nothing. This means if a buy order is over your minimal entered price, you should get the buy order price, not your minimal entered threshold price.
If the new system still simply uses the entered price as a "sell price" for all items and does not respect the individual higher priced buy orders, we still end up with the old click/wait-fest.
So is the new system working in the way i would expect a "usefully" new multi-sell system or is it just the old way of selling in a new fancy interface? |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5463
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Posted - 2014.10.22 10:27:04 -
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Angie Chatter wrote:@CCP Punkturis
From this video i still don't understand how this solves one of the main problems, while selling items and why it can be a extremely annoying click and wait nightmare.
Scenario: 150x item A 50x item B 30x Item C 70x Item D
Now i want to immediately sell all to buy orders, while achieving the maximal profit.
Current Steps: 1) right click item stack A-D 2) select sell from the menu 3) check price 4) hit enter/sell
We now need to repeat this for all stacks and depending on the available buy order volume, this can mean around 10-600 individual clicks. On top, if we click too fast you get a "Hold on, you have to wait xy seconds before you can continue" message every 10-30 seconds, with a wait time of 10-30 seconds per message. This means selling those stacks can end up taking 1-10 minutes.
This is a click-fest nightmare.
What i would expect from the new system: 1) add all stacks to this new sell window 2) enter a "minimal/threshold" sell price per item 3) hit enter/sell all
The system should now start filling the individual buy orders, until the minimum price is reached, at which point it setups sell orders or does nothing. This means if a buy order is over your minimal entered price, you should get the buy order price, not your minimal entered threshold price.
If the new system still simply uses the entered price as a "sell price" for all items and does not respect the individual higher priced buy orders, we still end up with the old click/wait-fest.
So is the new system working in the way i would expect a "usefully" new multi-sell system or is it just the old way of selling in a new fancy interface?
there is not a new functionality in selling items. it's a new window to make it easier to sell more than one item at once.
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GÖÑ Team Banana Stand GÖÑ
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Angie Chatter
18
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Posted - 2014.10.22 10:48:34 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote: there is not a new functionality in selling items. it's a new window to make it easier to sell more than one item at once.
So basically a fancy new interface, without addressing any "real" problems?
You do realize that your new system now allows to make massive sell price errors on a scale not possible before, since you could only do such errors per item/stack before.
I mean my example is what i end up doing every time i decide to sell to buy orders and i always sit there shaking my head. So the only "improvement" of the new system is that i can sell multiple stacks at once to the highest buy orders per stack at once?
Is this annoying "Hold on..." wait message at least gone now or do you still handicap me for selling "too fast" manually?
bye
PS: So basically MoxNix was correct and CCP just "improved" the brain-dead order filling logic to a massive scale.... |
Internet Knight
Free Galactic Enterprises Free Galactic Enterprises Alliance
14
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Posted - 2014.10.22 13:46:27 -
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Quote:And if you accidentally dropped your favorite ship in the window, you don't have to worry. Just hover over the item you want to remove and you will see an X button you can click on to remove the item.
This will NOT be user-friendly. The X should always be visible. I would prefer it to be to the left of the object's icon.
There are plenty of people, myself included, who don't want to have to hunt for hidden features. Take Windows 8 for example. Hunting for the ability to shutdown/reboot and the start menu? Bad idea.
At best, people will realize that they should be able to close the window and start anew, losing all the progress they'd made so far. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5466
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Posted - 2014.10.22 14:54:54 -
[114] - Quote
Internet Knight wrote:Quote:And if you accidentally dropped your favorite ship in the window, you don't have to worry. Just hover over the item you want to remove and you will see an X button you can click on to remove the item. This will NOT be user-friendly. The X should always be visible. I would prefer it to be to the left of the object's icon. There are plenty of people, myself included, who don't want to have to hunt for hidden features. Take Windows 8 for example. Hunting for the ability to shutdown/reboot and the start menu? Bad idea. At best, people will realize that they should be able to close the window and start anew, losing all the progress they'd made so far.
Try it out on Singularity, I'm sure it's not as hidden as you think
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ArmyOfMe
PILGRIMS Advent of Fate
362
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Posted - 2014.10.22 15:28:47 -
[115] - Quote
Any chance the restriction on contracting ships with boosters in them can be lifted as well? I know a lot of ppl with stuff stuck in stations they can no longer access that contains ships they cant even contract due to having boosters in their cargo.
Seeing as you can sell boosters in all stations, i see no reason why boosters on contract would be such a horrible crime, specially in 0,0 wich isnt even concord controlled space.
Other then that, awesome changes wich will make life a lot easier for those with lots of loot and such to sell. Buyorders for fittings you have stored is something i hope is high on your list as well, as i hate spending all that time finding the mods i need
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Jackie Cane
Chaos Gate
21
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Posted - 2014.10.22 15:56:04 -
[116] - Quote
Very Nice !!! This feature has been on many people's wish list for so long. |
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
9
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:08:16 -
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I love the idea behind this but stand firm in that the "Regional Average" price is far from accurate. And in many cases needs further adjustment by the player to be actually meaningful which then negates the advantage of a multi-sell window. This is of course because they are using the same value as they give us for "Estimated Value".
Would be an interesting study to go through the market and list how much disparity there is between the "Suggested Price" and the actual lowest sell and highest buy, as well as they avg price for that day or the day before (the little yellow dot). I've seen throughout the game numerous items that were infact completely worthless that had such ridiculous estimated values to make them seem worthwhile, only because some tard had a stupid high sell order buried at the bottom of the market screen in the back end of the region.
So unless they change the accuracy of the value they are providing then I can picture a lot of these new multi-sell orders ending up halfway down the market screen because the information is so horribly incorrect, or in some cases they posted sell prices might actually be lower than a current buy order. And until this Regional Average/Estimated Price is changed to be what it should be, I will continue to right-click and check market orders on everything, negating what is otherwise a good step in the right direction.
Are there any plans to make this a more usable value? |
Detroit Diesel
Supervisor 194
1
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:00:05 -
[118] - Quote
I just ran about ten multisell transactions on Singularity, clearing my hanger of the usual loot that piles up: stacks of ammo, armor plates, caps, etc.
The functionality was very smooth. The orders processed as one would expect, with those that I adjusted above the value of any local buy orders becoming sell orders with my chosen duration.
I also found the linkage between the items in the list and the market data very convenient and helpful in making pricing decisions.
Two suggestions:
1. The list lacks definition with the black background and no row markers. I found myself squinting at the list a lot. 2. The popup that shows the items processed lists them all as "Sold," even if a particular item became a sell order. Showing some distinction between what liquidated and what went into the offers queue would be good here.
This is a great feature and, hopefully, will help me keep the number of stacks in my hanger under a bajillion.
Thanks for this! |
MeagerMiner
8
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:15:53 -
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I think this is a really sweet thang ya'll have given us....!!
Overall I like what you gave us and its very much appreciated !!
I dont care for the Up / Down arrows to raise or lower prices.. kinda tiny script size for that too. Hard to click on teeny arrow.
It takes a long time to manipulate price as opposed to just clickin on box and doin it like weve been doin without.. But its a Cool Feature, dont get me wrong..
its a big UI, cant it be larger scripts n such maybe..
Me and Team GFY thank you and your Team ! |
Dwissi
Miners Delight
68
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:37:09 -
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Dangeresque Too wrote:I love the idea behind this but stand firm in that the "Regional Average" price is far from accurate. And in many cases needs further adjustment by the player to be actually meaningful which then negates the advantage of a multi-sell window. This is of course because they are using the same value as they give us for "Estimated Value".
Would be an interesting study to go through the market and list how much disparity there is between the "Suggested Price" and the actual lowest sell and highest buy, as well as they avg price for that day or the day before (the little yellow dot). I've seen throughout the game numerous items that were infact completely worthless that had such ridiculous estimated values to make them seem worthwhile, only because some tard had a stupid high sell order buried at the bottom of the market screen in the back end of the region.
So unless they change the accuracy of the value they are providing then I can picture a lot of these new multi-sell orders ending up halfway down the market screen because the information is so horribly incorrect, or in some cases they posted sell prices might actually be lower than a current buy order. And until this Regional Average/Estimated Price is changed to be what it should be, I will continue to right-click and check market orders on everything, negating what is otherwise a good step in the right direction.
Are there any plans to make this a more usable value?
Those average prices are not much different from what you do when you start checking the orders - just that the average price is calculated from actual executed orders. Its a common price model used all over Eve - in industry for the estimated price of input materials , killmails etc
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Before someone complains again: grrr everyone
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5470
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:48:45 -
[121] - Quote
Detroit Diesel wrote:I just ran about ten multisell transactions on Singularity, clearing my hanger of the usual loot that piles up: stacks of ammo, armor plates, caps, etc.
The functionality was very smooth. The orders processed as one would expect, with those that I adjusted above the value of any local buy orders becoming sell orders with my chosen duration.
I also found the linkage between the items in the list and the market data very convenient and helpful in making pricing decisions.
Two suggestions:
1. The list lacks definition with the black background and no row markers. I found myself squinting at the list a lot. 2. The popup that shows the items processed lists them all as "Sold," even if a particular item became a sell order. Showing some distinction between what liquidated and what went into the offers queue would be good here.
This is a great feature and, hopefully, will help me keep the number of stacks in my hanger under a bajillion.
Thanks for this!
thank you for taking the time to try out the feature, glad you like it! I'll see if we can do something about 1. and 2. is just temporary, mostly for testing purposes so it won't be there for much longer
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Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices Curatores Veritatis Alliance
180
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Posted - 2014.10.23 10:01:00 -
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Nice stuff! However, could you please make sure that you do not remove the "view market details" functionality from the new sell dialog? during trading. when selling stuff that's quite important to be able to view the market orders of the items that we're going to sell, because, obviously, we're setting the price according to the orders. So, the "view market details" which opens the market window and shows us the current orders for an item is essential for a sell dialog. |
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
9
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Posted - 2014.10.23 15:05:43 -
[123] - Quote
Dwissi wrote:Dangeresque Too wrote:I love the idea behind this but stand firm in that the "Regional Average" price is far from accurate .... Are there any plans to make this a more usable value? Those average prices are not much different from what you do when you start checking the orders - just that the average price is calculated from actual executed orders. Its a common price model used all over Eve - in industry for the estimated price of input materials , killmails etc Yes, you are correct, as I stated. This value is used all over the game. But what you didn't read was that it is grossly incorrect. You can run a real world test to confirm it if you don't believe me:
Pick half a dozen random modules you use a lot and/or build yourself, and then set sell orders for those at the Estimated Value. Then tell me how long it takes for the orders to sell if they ever sell. Reason being a lot of times the estimated value is a fair bit above the actual market value, thereby placing any orders from the new sell window significantly further down the market list. Or to the other remaining items the value is even below buy order prices, which then negates the usefulness of the tool further. |
Sukan Kawabata
Belka's Whooy Limited
1
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Posted - 2014.10.23 20:52:40 -
[124] - Quote
Please add the 'add to market quickbar' option to the items' popup menu in the sell items window. It's essential for market pvp :p |
Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2014.10.24 05:50:50 -
[125] - Quote
CCP Punkturis wrote:Internet Knight wrote:Quote:And if you accidentally dropped your favorite ship in the window, you don't have to worry. Just hover over the item you want to remove and you will see an X button you can click on to remove the item. This will NOT be user-friendly. The X should always be visible. I would prefer it to be to the left of the object's icon. There are plenty of people, myself included, who don't want to have to hunt for hidden features. Take Windows 8 for example. Hunting for the ability to shutdown/reboot and the start menu? Bad idea. At best, people will realize that they should be able to close the window and start anew, losing all the progress they'd made so far. Try it out on Singularity, I'm sure it's not as hidden as you think
I think this may warrant a better reason than "clean ui", this is not a apple product :) |
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance
560
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Posted - 2014.10.24 10:18:45 -
[126] - Quote
I hate the recently (unannounced!) changed market filters - the new "cog" drop down menu to access location functionality that was always 1 click is now multiple clicks and mouse moves and a mess of drop downs, radial buttons and unintuitive layouts.
I haven't seen this multi-sell feature yet, so I can't comment, but I think with this game "simplifying" the interface at the expense of changing how quickly it is to access certain functions, without making the interface optional at least at first, is rather annoying if you've been playing a long time and are used to how everything works.
Change is fine, but repeatedly changing things that are not broken in order to simplify things is pushing me away from Eve.
That said clicking a 'buy all' and 'fit all' button link on a kill mail for example for a quick reship/refit would be good. Thanks. |
Dwissi
Miners Delight
69
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Posted - 2014.10.24 10:33:09 -
[127] - Quote
Not sure if a 'buy all' makes sense at all as you risk getting stuff for exorbitant prices or very far away. If a 'buy all' on the other hand would create some kind of shopping list - that would be awsome.
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beaconBoy SavesTheDay
Galactic Hauling Solutions Inc.
8
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:17:43 -
[128] - Quote
I heard (or maybe I'm making up) a rumor that multisell will be available everywhere except Jita.
CCP is still unhappy about how much trading is going on at Jita vs the regional trade hubs. So now besides making it onerous for haulers to move cargo to/from Jita, CCP is going to make it difficult for traders in Jita (and only Jita) too! |
52 MonocIes
52 Monocles
7
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Posted - 2014.10.28 11:00:39 -
[129] - Quote
Oh sweet. Now if we only could multi buy, especially the entire fit.
Imagine similar window where you can drag items to add them to buy list, with little boxes with numbers on each row [how many pieces of that item we want to buy] and little arrows next to them to click for increasing/decreasing the numbers.
And then, we would just drag the fit to that window, and it would auto-populate with everything that is in that fit, including the ship. And then we would have the box, below the list, that would say "how many times do you want to buy this set of items". Multibuy would abort of if let's say 5th set could not be bought at the same price than the first.
We could also just keep that multibuy window open and repeatedly click "buy" and every time we'd see the total sum of the items prices in big red letters :>
And it would have warning if the resulting price was higher by some percent than the region average, the same it is for single item now.
Punkturis, we beg you, gief multibuy |
PerrinBash
All The Rage
0
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Posted - 2014.10.29 23:01:37 -
[130] - Quote
Right, so with dumbing down of eve your now allowing any active account to unlimited (basically) training, changed all the reprocessing, allow all of hi sec harassment and bumping as fair play, revamp of all manufacturing and research, making most skills to level 5 a thing of past, and don't allow freighters mid slots or rigs, or any capacity to defend themselves. Your moving toward the end game, lets just make it happen. Select the top 15% of SP players to get jovian technology and let us wreck eve, or....just keep chipping away at it bit by bit. |
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Floyd Farnsworth
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.10.30 17:11:52 -
[131] - Quote
Looks like the percentage above/below average display is in: https://twitter.com/CCP_Punkturis/status/526782920074481664
Thank you CCP Punkturis, you rock! |
Alexa Machavela
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.10.31 04:05:02 -
[132] - Quote
This looks like it needs a bit of clarification...
The current market details button opens a new window that shows all relevant regional (or less, depending on your settings) information for that item including: -a full list of all sell orders -a full list of all buy orders
Dev Blog wrote:If you click the icon you'll see market details on that item.
The image posted showing an example of the new market details [not-a-]button shows a small tooltip which gives a possible price for the item. The price does not reflect the current sell or buy orders as separate amounts at all. In fact, the price seems to be based on a number spit out by some random number generator more than actual in-game prices.
Players are asking to retain full access to all the buy and sell order information. The random price in the teeny-tiny tooltip isn't going to give them that information.
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Jackson Apollo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.10.31 14:42:01 -
[133] - Quote
seeing as this feature is useless for me i will toss out the request that this be an option that can be activated and deactivated.
not that anyone cares about little old me.
reasons are "its dumb", "its to easy to undersell all your things", "i want to sell stuff in 50 stations at once, because that's what *I* need", and "Sounds like the target audience is spys and account thieves."
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Zagdul
Mindstar Technology Get Off My Lawn
1382
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Posted - 2014.11.01 00:28:18 -
[134] - Quote
While you're working on the low hanging fruit. The contract window with the 'exact phrase' etc. Would it be too much trouble to add the functionality of using quotation marks and/or possibly a check box to remember the setting?
I hate making contracts to my alts.
Dual Pane idea:
Click!
CCP Please Implement
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Banko Mato
Republic University Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:43:41 -
[135] - Quote
Didn't have time to test it prior to today's patch unfortunately. My observations so far are the following:
- The text field for ask price is waaaay to small (at least double its width pls!)
- General layout is ok, apart from the above mentioned issue
- There is unused space that could potentially be used for a nice function (see below)
I would very much like 3 buttons above the ask price text field column, linked to predefined price settings (current min sell, current max buy and average) that will apply that price setting to all the items currently being prepared for selling. |
Cmd Garrus
The Eidolon Foundation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.04 17:19:53 -
[136] - Quote
This is horrible for selling one item, can we please get a button to switch back to the old layout or make it default if you only want to sell 1 item also the textbox where you enter the price is way too small. |
Adam Deadmarsh
Megacyte Services
0
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Posted - 2014.11.04 18:35:15 -
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Banko Mato wrote:
The text field for ask price is waaaay to small (at least double its width pls!)
I agree with this point and would add that the fonts are too small also. Thanks for your hard work.
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
257
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Posted - 2014.11.04 19:52:45 -
[138] - Quote
Cmd Garrus wrote:The multisell window is horrible for selling one item, can we please get a button to switch back to the old layout or make it default if you only want to sell 1 item, also the textbox where you enter the price is way too small.
Also if I drop items directly into buy orders with the Immediate option why does it limit me to my remaining market orders, shouldn't that not matter at all as long as these get sold into buy orders immediately?
The fonts are also tiny.
If we have to keep the multisell window for selling one item can we atleast get a bigger textbox with a bigger font and a focus on that textbox like we did before thanks.
I really would like to sell on Mulitsell or non-Multisell, now its annoying to massupdate (new) sell orders. |
Ivan Krukov
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.11.04 22:45:40 -
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I absolutely hate the new sell order menu. Here's why.
1. The increase and decrease sell value option by clicking the arrows is an entirely useless feature. Whenever I sell an order, it defaults to the highest buy order price. Well as a trader, I wouldn't be selling to the highest buy order, but generally selling an isk below the lowest sell order. Thus I'll have to enter a new value anyway that is much higher than the default order price. So using the buttons to decrease or increase the price by a single isk is simply not used. I recommend fully removing this feature for the price but keeping it for the item quantity.
2. There's no option to just quick sell, which was a great feature before this new UI change was implemented. All you had to do is right click and "simple" sell, meaning the sold item will go to the highest buy order and no sell order is created. Now if you change the isk price, you're not informed on whether or not it's creating a sell order or directly selling to the highest buy order unless you check the market and match the numbers. This needs an immediate fix. There needs to be a quick sell option or at the very least a prompt letting you know you're creating an order rather than selling the item directly.
3. There is no quick click icon to view market details for a particular item. You have to right click and select "view market details" in order to view them. If you're making these changes, why not implement a single button that will load the correct market details for that particular item? Why bother with the right click + view market details?
4. The UI itself isn't streamlined. There's dead space all over the sell items box. The spacing is odd and lacks the familiar feel of the buy orders menu.
That's all I have for now. I'll post again if I think of anything new.
Ivan
Run, run, run as fast as you can;
You can't catch me, I'm the Gingerbread Man.
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Nimrodion
Globaltech Industries Yulai Federation
43
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Posted - 2014.11.04 23:19:24 -
[140] - Quote
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but the input value field needs to be wider, I can't see the whole sum as it is now. Picture |
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Green Ambush
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.05 03:13:54 -
[141] - Quote
Ivan Krukov wrote:
2. There's no option to just quick sell, which was a great feature before this new UI change was implemented. All you had to do is right click and "simple" sell, meaning the sold item will go to the highest buy order and no sell order is created. Now if you change the isk price, you're not informed on whether or not it's creating a sell order or directly selling to the highest buy order unless you check the market and match the numbers. This needs an immediate fix. There needs to be a quick sell option or at the very least a prompt letting you know you're creating an order rather than selling the item directly.
3. There is no quick click icon to view market details for a particular item. You have to right click and select "view market details" in order to view them. If you're making these changes, why not implement a single button that will load the correct market details for that particular item? Why bother with the right click + view market details?
For point 2: For this change the duration to immediate and it will act as a quick sell....The broker charge should drop off.
For point 3: If you click the "triangle" like icon on the far right of the ask total, it will set the market window to that item.
My Big complaint is that the Quantity box is way too small. I am working with a stack that is 154,000,000 and all I can see is the 1540. |
Vala Ancalagon
Aideron Robotics
0
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Posted - 2014.11.05 04:39:01 -
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The quantity and the price boxes are way too small. Can we get them larger? Any price over 8 or 9 digits and it disappears behind the up/down buttons there. This is going to lead to loss of isk due to accidental pricing. What about people selling things for billions of isk? They won't be able to see what price they put in that first box, only the total of quantity x price. Expanding the window horizontally doesn't increase the box sizes as I expected it might. |
Crestor Markham
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
40
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Posted - 2014.11.05 18:59:47 -
[143] - Quote
Can we get the "click for detailed market info" on the sell window like it is on the modify order window? That is reallllly handy when you're not just dumping to buy orders. at the moment I have to right click the item name and choose view market details, meaning the new system is more work for my market trader instead of less/the same. |
Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
36
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:15:26 -
[144] - Quote
Crestor Markham wrote:Can we get the "click for detailed market info" on the sell window like it is on the modify order window? That is reallllly handy when you're not just dumping to buy orders. at the moment I have to right click the item name and choose view market details, meaning the new system is more work for my market trader instead of less/the same.
this is already there click the delta sign (were the percentages are).. magic things will happen
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Zacron Dubs
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
0
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Posted - 2014.11.11 13:32:09 -
[145] - Quote
I've never posted on the eve forums before this but felt this needed a post.
I've never been so impressed by such a small QoL change as I am with the multisell window, especially after the pricing window resize hotfixed a week after patch release no less. Big thank you to CCP Punkturis for this one! Nice work. |
Chent-Shizz Zohard
Candidate Zero
0
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:47:47 -
[146] - Quote
I posted about the value text boxes being to small and you took notice, so here's another one.
Kinda alot of wasted space when resized to read the item name? Love that when you click market details it brings itself back in front of the market window.
http://puu.sh/cNHtA/cb38a15839.png |
Lucius Uta
Not really a corp
3
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:03:57 -
[147] - Quote
Today I tried to multisell 4 stacks of items from my inventory by setting up actual sell orders as my wallet window said this: Orders Remaining: 4 out of 65 max open orders but when I tried multiselling a window poped up, saying: You currently have 63 open orders and your Trade skill level only allows for a maximum of 65. |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
259
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Posted - 2014.11.15 15:47:18 -
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Lucius Uta wrote:Today I tried to multisell 4 stacks of items from my inventory by setting up actual sell orders as my wallet window said this: Orders Remaining: 4 out of 65 max open orders but when I tried multiselling a window poped up, saying: You currently have 63 open orders and your Trade skill level only allows for a maximum of 65.
Sometimes the session needs a refresh to use order slots that are somehow occupied. (undock / dock) |
Galmas
united system's commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:55:08 -
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Right, i know i am a bit late but just today i used this new market interface for selling loot for the first time....
Was there any reason to remove the old interface? This new one is just a big pain in...
Selling part of the loot to corp wallet, moving it to the personal hangar from delieveries, selling another part, moving it again... you must be kiddin.
Totally dont like this, i am not a trader, i just want to sell to buy orders without that stupid thing.
BTW drag and drop also doesnt work for me.
Full failure this new interface for a non trader who just wants to get rid of stuff by selling into the corp wallet.
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Dwissi
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:02:03 -
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I still like the multi-sell - but its extremely irritating that we cant sell things directly from cargo hold or containers. That really needs to be changed as the constant moving stuff in and out of a hangar creates unnecessary clickery and leads to errors.
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Reem Amatin
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:37:13 -
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I am loving the new sell feature, but I do have some issues/suggestions to make for CCP.
There are quite a few items we want to sell instantly and others that need to go on the market for some time. Now that we are selling things in the same window, we have to choose if its worth opening multiple sell item windows to adjust duration.
Would it be possible to make a simple rule where the brokers fee is reimbursed if the item is instantly sold, regardless of the duration setting? This transparent change would help those of us who make thousands of transactions a day.
It would also be nice to have a settings option to revert to the old layout. Some old dogs have a hard time learning new tricks.
Statements based on experience in the Tranquility server. |
Death Escapist
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.11.29 15:41:26 -
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I have an issue that i thought had been solved - whenever i try to sell more than 7 different items i get the message about not being able to create more contracts. My number of contracts is 1 of 9. All items could be sold to local buy orders btw - i recall that was an issue already during tests and cant understand why i am having this now again.
'Bound to fail he continues to smash the concrete wall between life and death' - Unknown pilot
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2014.11.29 21:07:51 -
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Dwissi wrote:I still like the multi-sell - but its extremely irritating that we cant sell things directly from cargo hold or containers. That really needs to be changed as the constant moving stuff in and out of a hangar creates unnecessary clickery and leads to errors.
I proposed a "move to inventory and sell" button on those things for ages. |
Jaantrag
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Posted - 2014.11.30 18:07:13 -
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Green Ambush wrote:
For point 2: For this change the duration to immediate and it will act as a quick sell....The broker charge should drop off.
True, but currently the immediate will work fine if u use character-¦s wallet to set the sell order, but if u use corporations wallet for the transaction and the first buy order that is buying is smaller amount then your selling the rest will go into market deliveries section, and u need to drag it back and sell it again .. extra steps we DONT need, simple sell option before managed to know the first buy order quantity and sell that many keeping rest of the goods where they are. |
Vegare
Dragon Clan Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:40:52 -
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Reem Amatin wrote:I am loving the new sell feature, but I do have some issues/suggestions to make for CCP.
There are quite a few items we want to sell instantly and others that need to go on the market for some time. Now that we are selling things in the same window, we have to choose if its worth opening multiple sell item windows to adjust duration.
Would it be possible to make a simple rule where the brokers fee is reimbursed if the item is instantly sold, regardless of the duration setting? This transparent change would help those of us who make thousands of transactions a day.
This is bothering me as well.
There's an inconsistency regarding broker fee's. Now if you sell something to a buy order, but don't have the duration set to immediate you're basically paying a broker fee for nothing - it seems as if the system creates a sell order just to fulfill it right away.
This is problematic escpecially because you can't set different durations as was implied above and defeats the prime purpose of the sell tool for me: Selling a load of very different items. Have the junk go to buy orders, and adjust the price for the valuable stuff. Now I am paying the broker for hundreds of orders that actually never appear on the market. |
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