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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:01:00 -
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been said a million times, delete any bm within 150k of a gate, add a warp to 0 option that cant be defaulted to so no one can ap without risk.
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Lela Lebwohl
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:03:00 -
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Seems the bookmarks are causing alot of trouble for those that are NOT coppying bookmarks.
This is not acceptable
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente Expert Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lela Lebwohl Seems the bookmarks are causing alot of trouble for those that are NOT coppying bookmarks.
This is not acceptable
QFT.. Why can't the devs or gm's kick the ones copying insane amounts of bms and stop them from ruining the game for the rest of us. I got kicked from jita and now this
Your character is located within (Jita), which is currently loading. Please try again in a moment.
kick those bm copying retards dammit
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Smada
Templar Republic
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:14:00 -
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To stop all this BM shenanigans - just give everyone a full set of full grade Snake implants then they won't need BMs!
Sorted! Job Done! No more BM copy induced lag, no more nodes dying
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Tradingjoe
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Valar We have lost 4 nodes tonight. It seems that extreme bookmark copying is causing nodes to time out and the cluster thus consitering them dead. Over 900.000 bookmarks have been copied since downtime.
We are keeping a close eye on the situtation.
Maybe if your bookmark 'fix' wasn't half arsed this wouldn't happen.
Its hack, bandaid coding. Bookmarks are just as important as always, you just made them much harder for new players to get. Nice job, did the guy who came up with that solution get a bonus? Yea I'm mad, I was expecting something more reasonable as a soultion. Instead I can't play on a holiday weekend, and I'll still be bookmark screwed for the regions I don't have yet. Thanks.
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Miss Mickey
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:18:00 -
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Right now I'm thinking they should do DT twice a day. At least then there would be two 11 hour periods of good play rather than 11 hours of good play and 12 hours of total uncertainty!!
Seems the longer the cluster is up the worse it gets and right now it struggles to last a full 23 hour cycle!!
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Wat0721
GalacTECH Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera been said a million times, delete any bm within 150k of a gate, add a warp to 0 option that cant be defaulted to so no one can ap without risk.
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ECM Fix |

syphurous
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:26:00 -
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I was one of the ones copying a crap load of bookmarks. I finally meet up with a friend online who's been playing a lot longer than I have. He gave me a copy of his bookmarks so I might move faster through the universe. ( and safer ) It was a one time thing, atleast till I move to another region where some new bookmarks will come in handy.
If you're not going to support something you need to remove it or find a better method.
Warping to structures that never move shouldn't mean having to come in at 15km, perhaps one of the navigation skills can affect your warp accuracy and allow better distance ?
I'm guessing the 15km is so that you dont get ships piled up on top of each other at gates and choking the jump gates.
You really need to think of a solution that's going to work with everyone.
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IKickCats
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:28:00 -
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As a newb at day 12 of the 14 free trial. One Question... is the amount of downtime lately "normal" or above average? I understand that there has been a major patch applied - however - In the last 12 days I have been unable to login for close to two days. Apparently today I was unlucky enough to warp through the Jita Gate and now can not get into the game... again.
Just curious before I put my $$ in - seems like a great game, but if this is "normal" downtime at 5%-8%, then I need a lot more money for keeping my network at 4 nines availability.
Cheers.
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Lela Lebwohl
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:28:00 -
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its a nice try of the GM team to ask the players nicely, but I fear that the reason so much coppying is done is to make money, and they will not care about the wellfare of most.
But I can understand that its the best the GM team can do right away.
I hope actions will be taken so the copy cats cant bother the majority of the players in the future.
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Glassback
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:28:00 -
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JUST GIVE US WARP TO 0 AND GET RID OF THE FUCJING THINGS, EVERYONE GETS BM'S IN THE END ANYWAY!!!!!!!!
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Shanzem
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:29:00 -
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Dear players. Nodes have been dropping and we are experiencing massive load on our system. We have found the cause of this. It seems that our valued players are overloading the server by copying massive ammounts of bookmarks. This is bringing our server to a critical state. We ask you, the players to stop copying bookmarks. This is the only way for you to be able to enjoy normal gameplay. We sincerely hope that our request will not fall on deaf ears. All the best, The GM Team
thats the way aaaah haaa we like it aah haa :) -------------------------------------------
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MOAB DaBomb
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Valar We have lost 4 nodes tonight. It seems that extreme bookmark copying is causing nodes to time out and the cluster thus consitering them dead. Over 900.000 bookmarks have been copied since downtime.
We are keeping a close eye on the situtation.
Well DUH... Nerf BM copying to hell and watch everyone spend the weekend making sure all their friends and buddies have whatever BMs they want/need.
CCP brought it on themselves this time.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar L.O.S.T. Foundation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 03/09/2006 21:30:22 while I'm an ardent supporter and fan of CCP, i can't help but feel that ]this is an issue that needs to be addressed by them, and not pushed back onto a largely deaf playerbase.
of course, without knowing the structure of the code it's hard to make recommendations, but getting rid of all bookmarks associated with a char that hasn't been in use for (say) 18 months would be a good start. as would making bm's copied into cans or hangers operate on a time-limit that would vanish at the end of the window.
there must be many better ways of handling this than saying "stop copying your bm's", people won't do it while bm's are so essential to the game.
This message came from the Minmatar Messiah, accept no imitations Pesky LaRue, Minmatar Messiah Bringing Salvation To Your System Soon! ++ PRAY FOR PESKY ++ |

Idono
Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera been said a million times, delete any bm within 150k of a gate, add a warp to 0 option that cant be defaulted to so no one can ap without risk.
Would be good with 0 km warps. but they should only be avalible if at war and in lowsec systems. And they should only be avalible if youve curently visited that object.
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:31:00 -
[46]
Ok who's fighting RA?
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:32:00 -
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just give us a temporyary warp to 0 only under manuel warp with the understanding that its temp till you comeup with something better. then delete all BMs in the same grid as the gates. but still allow them to be made but with the game mechanic built in no one will **** with instas thus freeing up lag. not the perfect solution but the preferable quick fix for the current situation if bms are cuasing the issues you say they are. oh and i'm copying bms too, sorry but i cna't risk not having them with the current changes
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Jongo Fett
Caldari Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:33:00 -
[48]
why not prevent Bm's from been traded or put on escrow? this would probilly reduce the amount of people who will copy them
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SyIpha
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:34:00 -
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For God's sake..put in an easy fix..it's not hard! Put in a skill book to train to learn to warp closer to an object..such as gates, stations. I promise you if ppl had that option, bookmarks would not be used as instas. It is an easy fix...and would release up 100's of thousands of bookmarks! 1 + 1 Does equal 2!
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Katarina Hetiako
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:34:00 -
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Easy fix,
Allow Warp to 0km.
PROBLEM SOLVED 
I see no issue with copying bookmarks, but the mass copying of instas (for what is now the standard form of travel) is just out of control.
Stop being stubborn and hotfix this please. |

Hippo117
Caldari 9th Fleet Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:34:00 -
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I said this when CCP first bombed us with news about the bookmark copy nerf, and I'll say it again.
Planning to nerf something like this so severely is not in the games best interest, especially when ccp has not planned a replacement. If there was no impending copy nerf, would we be having this problem right now? No, we wouldn't. so how is this nerf helping lag at all? It's pretty effectively making the game unplayable for many today so that maybe in the future they can run with less lag? That is not an appropriate trade. what ccp is doing is removing a tool to players, intended or not. They have no confirmed plans to fill this hole, yet make it anyway. In preperation for a storm people will stock up on food and supplies. this is exactly what is going on now, but this is a man made storm and can be stopped, yet CCP makes no attempts to do so. --------------
My opinions may not represent the opinions of my corporation or alliance. Booby > Rokh Nerf damps. |

Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:34:00 -
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Quote: I think all accounts need to be limited to 50
With a warp to 0km then that is a solution ......... come on CCP its only going to get worse until Tuesday ..
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nardaq
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:35:00 -
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yup, to get the bookmarks before the patch, like DUH!!
GJ players, keep them comming and i mean that, it's CCP's problem!!
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AceOfSpace
Myth...
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:36:00 -
[54]
If you schedule a patch to nerf BM copying, of course people are going to be doing a lot of it at the last minute. That's just.. sensible. -where there's an ace, there's a way- |

Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: AceOfSpace If you schedule a patch to nerf BM copying, of course people are going to be doing a lot of it at the last minute. That's just.. sensible.
CCP evidently does not understand the whole concept of cause and effect
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Tradingjoe
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jongo Fett why not prevent Bm's from been traded or put on escrow? this would probilly reduce the amount of people who will copy them
Oh thats good, why not take something vital and limit it only to old players who already copied them.
Thats brilliant! I think you are ready for the dev team there.
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Altai Saker
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:40:00 -
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lol, sorry but this is just what happens when you announce a half assed solution, nerf copying bms? Of course people are going to copy all their sets...
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: IKickCats As a newb at day 12 of the 14 free trial. One Question... is the amount of downtime lately "normal" or above average? I understand that there has been a major patch applied - however - In the last 12 days I have been unable to login for close to two days. Apparently today I was unlucky enough to warp through the Jita Gate and now can not get into the game... again.
Just curious before I put my $$ in - seems like a great game, but if this is "normal" downtime at 5%-8%, then I need a lot more money for keeping my network at 4 nines availability.
Cheers.
This is basically the worst I've seen in 2 years... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

Xendie
Hunter Killers
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:40:00 -
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it is a direct result of the forced 5 BM copying
everyone and their mother is now copying to make a extra isk since the prices on bookmarks is going up and up by the minute.
what is next thing?, you have to stop using more then 1 drone at the time as the nodes will not take it?
fix the servers, atleast that is what we are paying you for isnt it CCP? we pay money each month to play on the servers and this last month and a half the servers have been going on their knees daily and gameplay and value for money has been going down steadily with it. stop fiddling with yourself and fix it, personally i dont care how you do it but a bone hard stance on anyone found macromining could be a sure way to remove 10k macroers that you are currently ignoring.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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darklegionca
DarkCorp Mining inc
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:41:00 -
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here's an awesome idea ban everyone until the patch is out or bring the patch out tonight so then we dont have this bloody prb
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