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Darpz Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:02:00 - [91] Originally by: Viktor Beck Insta bookmarks causing problems? Get rid of them and make a warp in at 10km. Makes everyone happy. warp to 10km would not make everyone happy
darklegionca DarkCorp Mining inc	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:02:00 - [92] Dear players. The Jita system is causing players to become stuck. Please try and avoid this system for the time being while the load balancing system attempts to resolve the issue. - All the best, The GM Team this is a sad day for eve
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:03:00 - [93] Originally by: SonShadowCat It's nice to see people continue to copy BM even though they know they're destroying the server and gameplay for everyone else. What do you think they are going to do? This game is a community of human beings and they will exploit it the way humans always do. You can't just tell people not to do something and expect that they will comply. Only a fool and at least one government I'm all too familiar with would believe otherwise. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
Darpz Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:04:00 - [94] Originally by: SonShadowCat It's nice to see people continue to copy BM even though they know they're destroying the server and gameplay for everyone else. if it makes CCP relise there folly I don't care. if ccp would right now say that the new patch introduces warp to 0 it would solve 90% of the copying, hell I don't think they would even need to delete bms, people would volunarily since they lag the client so much
MOAB DaBomb Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:05:00 - [95] I'm waiting to see this next: --- Dear Players. Many players are currently experiencing lag and stuck characters. The GM team is currently working to resolve the situation. In the mean time please cease all bookmark copying. Also at this time to give the servers a chance to recover we would like everyone to dock and stare at the inside of the station for the next several hours while we figure out what to do with the problem we caused. Not the GM Team
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:05:00 - [96] Originally by: Miss Overlord CCP shut the server down and ban ALL ISNTA COPYING UNTIL TOMORROWS PATCH Its the only solution as players arent going to stop copying instas even on youre asking - so shut that system down if u dont want continue server crashes until tomorrow. To all u fools just keep going force CCP to act its the only way (reverse pscyhology) Please disable all insta copying until tomorrows patch when the new 5 per time limit comes in common CCP this is the lag causing issue and youre allowing to to continue
Lynn Fang	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:06:00 - [97] Edited by: Lynn Fang on 03/09/2006 22:06:23 Tractor beam bpo's come into my mind. It's time for a new joke like that. Let people copy thousands of BPCs like mad and then make all gate near BMs useless with in the patch.
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:06:00 - [98] Originally by: Darpz Originally by: SonShadowCat It's nice to see people continue to copy BM even though they know they're destroying the server and gameplay for everyone else. if it makes CCP relise there folly I don't care. if ccp would right now say that the new patch introduces warp to 0 it would solve 90% of the copying, hell I don't think they would even need to delete bms, people would volunarily since they lag the client so much immediate solution ive presented. Lets see if they are smart enough to listen
errinung triton Amarr	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:08:00 - [99] Well they should have expected this, a limit of 5 seems a little low to me. I understand why they don't want to make it client side, but it would solve a lot of hassle. Custom Signatures for 10 million Isk, EVE mail please.
levitron Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:08:00 - [100] Originally by: Valar We have lost 4 nodes tonight. It seems that extreme bookmark copying is causing nodes to time out and the cluster thus consitering them dead. Over 900.000 bookmarks have been copied since downtime. We are keeping a close eye on the situtation. Just get rid of BM's.. Give us warp to 0 or give a skill that gives us that. Everyone already has it anyway with BM's and they just kill the database of the game. Get rid of the idiocy.
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:08:00 - [101] hmmm anyone caught at the moment copying large instas should be just dropped from the server.
Feline Ferocity Caldari The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:09:00 - [102] Originally by: Siege So, some folks are going nuts copying as many as they can before the change goes into effect, and causing problems for everybody else. Selfish basties CCP, just make bookmarks non-existant... its rather quite simple We need a YEAR without ANY 'new content'. Nothing but BUG FIXES. New content that does not work is WORTHLESS.
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:09:00 - [103] Originally by: levitron Originally by: Valar We have lost 4 nodes tonight. It seems that extreme bookmark copying is causing nodes to time out and the cluster thus consitering them dead. Over 900.000 bookmarks have been copied since downtime. We are keeping a close eye on the situtation. Just get rid of BM's.. Give us warp to 0 or give a skill that gives us that. Everyone already has it anyway with BM's and they just kill the database of the game. Get rid of the idiocy. in the meantime just disable BM copying until tuesdays patch taht would well 900000 less BMs every 12 hours.
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:10:00 - [104] Originally by: errinung triton Well they should have expected this, a limit of 5 seems a little low to me. I understand why they don't want to make it client side, but it would solve a lot of hassle. even 10 without client side at a time would be good (its 5 at a time) so highlight 5 copy , then rinse and repeat will just mean that ppl cant highlight 500 and go afk while it lags the game out Until tomorrows patch CCP should disable all bookmark copying because as the patch gets closer ppl aer just going to distribute all their regional ones before the new limits
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:11:00 - [105] Originally by: Feline Ferocity Originally by: Siege So, some folks are going nuts copying as many as they can before the change goes into effect, and causing problems for everybody else. Selfish basties CCP, just make bookmarks non-existant... its rather quite simple until the new patch comes in just disable ALL BM COPYING. Might require a quick downtime and some tweaks but hey will make the next few days less laggy
Tana Pleiades Caldari Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:11:00 - [106] Warp to 0km now! If you want to gank use inty's on the other side, or bubbles or interdicters! Everyone uses instas already so game play wouldnt be altered.. well except there would be no lag...
Anomaly21 Caldari Beasts of Burden Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:11:00 - [107] Edited by: Anomaly21 on 03/09/2006 22:11:27 Originally by: Anomaly21 Ok AFAIK the reason the BM limitation is being put into place is people exploiting game mechanics and copying BM's into shuttles and leaving them in POS's to lag out attackers and such. It has nothing to do with instas. So to fix this and not having to deal with the big problem of finding a decent replacement why can't you just make it so that BMs can only be copied while docked in stations into the items window and cannot be placed into any ships hangar or containers or anything of the like? This would fix the problem of people using BMs to exploit game mechanics and it wouldn't cause an extreme uproar from the majority of the game community not having instas or being able to copy them. The current idea to fix the situation is just going to cause an uproar with the majority of the community and isn't going to stop the minority that is causing the problem. Even though you'll only be able to copy 5 at a time people will still sit there and copy exploiting away. All that means is they have to make more clicks now. This is not my idea. I saw it posted and no one responded to it. So I am reposting this and will hopefuly get a response to why this can't be done .. and please correct me if I'm wrong. ^^ Umm hello ... This thing on? ^^ You're friendly neighborhood ECM Queen :o
SonShadowCat PINK TACO TORPERS	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:14:00 - [108] Originally by: Andrue Originally by: SonShadowCat It's nice to see people continue to copy BM even though they know they're destroying the server and gameplay for everyone else. What do you think they are going to do? This game is a community of human beings and they will exploit it the way humans always do. You can't just tell people not to do something and expect that they will comply. Only a fool and at least one government I'm all too familiar with would believe otherwise. I guess I expected too much from stupid/selfish humans.
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:14:00 - [109] Originally by: Tana Pleiades Warp to 0km now! If you want to gank use inty's on the other side, or bubbles or interdicters! Everyone uses instas already so game play wouldnt be altered.. well except there would be no lag... have to agree warp to 0km is needed but in the meantime till that system is ready ban all BM copying until tomorrows patch where 5 at a time will limit its lag inducing abilty
ObiDoom Kenobi Gallente Element Eighty	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:16:00 - [110] Here's a question, would it make the server load any lighter if the people copying tons of BM's went to a less crowded system? I just saw the message saying Jita was basically broken, so I'm wondering if the trade off between copying BM and the server working is to just go to a less popular system. Obviously the people copying BM's don't want the server to shut down either, because then you can't copy BM's.
Qahlan	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:21:00 - [111] Originally by: SonShadowCat It's nice to see people continue to copy BM even though they know they're destroying the server and gameplay for everyone else. It's to be expected. Seems a group of players have decided this is their game and theirs alone and they got a right to nagg whine and do as they please. Reading the forums the last few days was a constant flood of "MY gameplay is not what I like it to be, fix MY gameplay, I pay, I demand to be able to play MY game MY way". Don't get me wrong. It's not like I want to make it seem that there aren't any problems. It's just the way a certain group of players seems to have this strange sense of being entitled to whatever they want. Personally I am not all that suprised about the bookmarking in large quantities and not being willing to stop types. They seem to be part of OUR game. What certain people fail to realise is that the type of service they demand only comes for those who pay big. Companies order such services for their most important processes, those that can not go down cause it would either cause harm (hospitals and such) or cost to much money. Those 99,99% uptime contracts cost big money. Another thing is the content demand. Server updates get tested, and still MS security patches make for quite a lot of situations in wich companies suffer downtime on their sytem. Do all those whiners really think Eve will survive the cost of the service they demand? Can they afford it? Judging by their behavior and speach I highly doubt that. Sounds more like 14 year olds having mommy and daddy pay for the game.
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:27:00 - [112] I dont give a damn about the devs problem.. I need instas to many regions, and as long as i duno for sure what replacement system there is going to be for instas the the 'future', I will be copying sets until the last second before the patch! The servers may die 100 times a day for all I care. I dont do anything else than copying until the patch anyway Thats because I am uncertain what the replacement would be. And I dont want to be the one getting screwed at the end. ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
Wat0721 GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:28:00 - [113] Here's a question -- of the people who paid ISK for safe travel through <region>...how many of you would be upset if we could have drastically-reduced lag, but all of your bookmarks were deleted? Personally, I'd be fine with that -- but I can understand that some might object. That seems to be something CCP would have to face if they went ahead with deleting the unholy amount of BMs. --- ECM Fix
Silthis Marna Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:29:00 - [114] Originally by: Valar It seems that extreme bookmark copying is causing nodes to time out and the cluster thus consitering them dead. Over 900.000 bookmarks have been copied since downtime. I dig Eve, I really do. CCP could break the gaming system in any number of ways, and I'd just roll over and accept it, because the greater scope of play is what I like about it. Nerfing gate to gate BMs without providing an equivalent and most importantly, equal solution would totally kill this game for me and many others. If I wanted to play a travel game, I'd have bought Ship Simulator 2006. Stop beating around the bush CCP. If you're going to complain about players using your game mechanics to make their travel both quicker and (marginally) safer, be decisive and tell us how you plan to fix this. -- Vote 1 - Warp to 0km
Feline Ferocity Caldari The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:30:00 - [115] Originally by: Treelox its great to see all these warp to 0km options, and what not ppl are suggesting. To help get rid of BM's IMO most of us forget that a lot of BM's are used for safe spots, loot cans, and for the ease mining in belts. Whats to happen to those bm's in a warp to 0 system? But i thought i just said not long ago to make bookmarks non-existant. And you can make safespots without bookmarks, just waste half your cap with a MWD then warp somewhere, you wouldn't need to worry about people finding your safe and waiting there until you go there again, chances are you wouldn't land in the same place (unless your lucky/unlucky, depending on the situation) Plus they aren't going to get rid of probes, so if you had a safespot with cans there you can just probe them. Meh ------- We need a YEAR without ANY 'new content'. Nothing but BUG FIXES. New content that does not work is WORTHLESS.
Runt Mcgoire Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:33:00 - [116] Originally by: zykerx ooh and why did i buy so many regions, wel it was a investment for myself and to share with my corpmembers that could use some of the regions for pvp or safe hauling/npcing So, you are one of those that overload the system just in case you might need an insta for some forsaken system you will never put your egg in??? Make sense. You part of the Lemming crew? You should. R
Gorr Hajus	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:34:00 - [117] I am on the 7 day trial. I was hoping to find a good game to go to after being bored by other games. I seriously doubt it now. I am in Jita and had no idea it was a bad zone. Plus I had no choice to go there because I had a storyline mission that was "very important". I missed the bonus and will probably fail the mission. I was disconnected 3 times and read 4 chapters in a novel waiting for it while the screen that says Entering the game was up for about an hour. Plus I can't play another character because 1. he cannot train because my 1st character is training, 2. he can't finish the tutorial because I am not allowed past the part teaching you about training because I can't train (I can always cancel out of the tutorial - but I miss a lot. I'd still do it if not for #3 ->>>), and 3. my 2nd character is crashing as much as my 1st character.
Eriv Kendri Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:34:00 - [118] Get rid of instas - the players that are worth keeping won't quit over it and for those few that do, they will be replaced by peeps that dont care about instas, never having known them - warp to 0km now!
Amedina The Legion.	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:35:00 - [119] Originally by: Treelox its great to see all these warp to 0km options, and what not ppl are suggesting. To help get rid of BM's IMO most of us forget that a lot of BM's are used for safe spots, loot cans, and for the ease mining in belts. Whats to happen to those bm's in a warp to 0 system? Well, I think alot of people would delete their g2g bm's in a 0km system, and only use bookmarks for safe spots, scan spots and mining points. No one is saying remove them all together, just remove g2g ones. Either warp to 0 or 1km or keep 15km but give a navi skill that reduces distance with 2,55km, tho last option would be semi redundant as everyone would max it right away. Auto pilot should stay at 15km, as moving a stabbed BS 40 jumps through 0.0 on auto pilot is just wrong
levitron Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:36:00 - [120] Originally by: Miss Overlord Originally by: errinung triton Well they should have expected this, a limit of 5 seems a little low to me. I understand why they don't want to make it client side, but it would solve a lot of hassle. even 10 without client side at a time would be good (its 5 at a time) so highlight 5 copy , then rinse and repeat will just mean that ppl cant highlight 500 and go afk while it lags the game out Until tomorrows patch CCP should disable all bookmark copying because as the patch gets closer ppl aer just going to distribute all their regional ones before the new limits You mean Tuesday's patch..we have another whole day to copy them

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