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Vendraen
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:07:00 -
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The Rifter looks really overpowered on paper. I mean, it's got 5 weapon mounts, plenty of power and cap, decent armor/shield. Decent speed. It seems to have ZERO drawbacks when compared to any other Frigate.
What am I missing?
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kublai
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:09:00 -
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It's a frigate, that's what you're missing.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:09:00 -
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AND it looks frickn' awesome too! 
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Killed my sig AGAIN! :p
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Talen Kross
Dragon's Rage
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:10:00 -
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WTB rifter with 5 weapon mounts.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:10:00 -
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Edited by: Sandra Tseng on 06/09/2006 13:10:05
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It seems to have ZERO drawbacks when compared to any other Frigate.
read OP before posting you anti-friggie-twerp ;]
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 06/09/2006 13:12:11
Well, for starters it only has 4 high slots, so you get either 3/1 turrets/launchers, or 2/2. Split weapons are worse for damage modules (which is why kestrels are nice, since they're all launchers).
They are fast, and flexible, and all round a good ship. Overpowered? No, I wouldn't say so.
I'd put it up against both Kestrel and Merlin (Caldari Tier 3s) - kestrel is 4/3/2 but all launchers (so better for damage mods) where a Merlin is 4/4/2 (extra midslots are very sweet, they mean a second web, scram, or just hardner) with shield resists.
Can't really comment on Gallente/Amarrian frigs, as I'm unfamiliar.
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Vendraen
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Vendraen on 06/09/2006 13:13:10
Aha! That IS what I missed. It has 3 turret hardpoints and 2 launcher hardpoints, yet only 4 hislots. That's...weird. That's the "catch" right there. Still seems like a nice boat though.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:13:00 -
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Well..we had a T1 frig tournament a week ago or soemthing.
Judging by the result of that
Kestrel is WAY WAY WAY more overpowered than any other T1 frig...
Insane....
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Killed my sig AGAIN! :p
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Vathar
Elegance
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:13:00 -
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It's got only 4 hislots, so 5 weapon mounts don't mean much; but apart from this, yeah, it's one of the best T1 frigs around.
Used to be a 4/2/2 and was a bit limited, but since it gained 1 mid and 1 low, it's a monster. I regret it no longer has a speed bonus, it's a bit slower than it used to be.
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Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
Well..we had a T1 frig tournament a week ago or soemthing.
Judging by the result of that
Kestrel is WAY WAY WAY more overpowered than any other T1 frig...
Insane....
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Kestrels have a good DPS, no tracking, and no real need for anything other than BCS in those lows.
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Tamara Merris
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vendraen
The Rifter looks really overpowered on paper. I mean, it's got 5 weapon mounts, plenty of power and cap, decent armor/shield. Decent speed. It seems to have ZERO drawbacks when compared to any other Frigate.
What am I missing?
A basic understanding of ship fitting it seems. While it may have 5 weapon hardpoints it still only has 4 high slots just like all the other race's frigates. It also has less cap, less armor and less shield than those other race's ships.
On the other hand it looks cool and thats what really matters. 
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Arimai
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:18:00 -
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4 highslots, weapon bonus on weapons that need high powergrid, need to train multiple weapons systems?
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Antodias
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:21:00 -
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Punisher's are just as good if not better than Rifters IMO.
Perhaps less versetile, but more durable.
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dralid
Vortex.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:26:00 -
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Punisher have a good tank for a frigate indeed!
I love the rifter tho for its versatile functions.
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Terraform
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:42:00 -
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i did a test a few days ago, had 2 kestrels with light missiles pummel my punisher while i tried tanking and retaliating. I ALMOST won the fight, beat down one kestrel, but was beaten by the second one. He had 16% armor left when i exploded  Got a rifter? bring it on! 
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:47:00 -
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Actually i think a rifter would beat a punisher. :) NOS all the way...
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Vendraen
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:52:00 -
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Kestrel seems REALLY power starved. I've got 4x Malkuths on mine and there's no power left for anything else. :(
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:00:00 -
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The rules for the Frig tournament we had was:
Only standard T1 frigs
Only standard T1 modules (no named at all, only modules you can buy BPOs for)
The Kestrels won every fight with ease. (might help that the best kestrel pilot has max skilled in all missile skills)
The kessie would just use its Afterburner and move away from the other ship while bombarding it with missiles. usually took 2 volleys while the other friggates could nto even get a lock (Kessie has 44km lock distance without skills - my Tristan has 29km WITH skills)
And moving in zigzag does not help since missiles say FU to transversal
MWD was a good move but unfortunantly you took to much damage on the way in and when you reached the kessie (which by then was untouched while its opponent was quite badly damaged) you had too littel cap left to sustain any tank for long - even with nos's)
NERF KESSIE! (at least its targetting distance)
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:04:00 -
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Sandra, try the same thing with starting distance being 5k. Web + superior damage will eat the kestrel alive.
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Magnus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
Well..we had a T1 frig tournament a week ago or soemthing.
Judging by the result of that
Kestrel is WAY WAY WAY more overpowered than any other T1 frig...
Insane....
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I used a rifter in our corps frig tourney a while ago, and didnt have any problems with kestrels. I won btw.
The rifter is my favourite frig atleast, with t2 ac and barrage ammo, it can kill several of AFs even, and with dual web it eats every ceptor in the game alive (except those pesky crows that dont enter web range).
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Sandra Tseng
Well..we had a T1 frig tournament a week ago or soemthing.
Judging by the result of that
Kestrel is WAY WAY WAY more overpowered than any other T1 frig...
Insane....
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Kestrels have a good DPS, no tracking, and no real need for anything other than BCS in those lows.
I agree with that- kestrels seriously own. I hate Caldari :P
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Sandra, try the same thing with starting distance being 5k. Web + superior damage will eat the kestrel alive.
Well - that would not be fair now would it? ;]
But I would sure appreaciate it, being an Autocannon and Blaster junkie ;]
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Kyuzo
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
The rules for the Frig tournament we had was:
Only standard T1 frigs
Only standard T1 modules (no named at all, only modules you can buy BPOs for)
The Kestrels won every fight with ease. (might help that the best kestrel pilot has max skilled in all missile skills)
The kessie would just use its Afterburner and move away from the other ship while bombarding it with missiles. usually took 2 volleys while the other friggates could nto even get a lock (Kessie has 44km lock distance without skills - my Tristan has 29km WITH skills)
And moving in zigzag does not help since missiles say FU to transversal
MWD was a good move but unfortunantly you took to much damage on the way in and when you reached the kessie (which by then was untouched while its opponent was quite badly damaged) you had too littel cap left to sustain any tank for long - even with nos's)
NERF KESSIE! (at least its targetting distance)
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the Kestral is one of the better frigates for skill lvl 2 ... and the rifter definately has to be fitted right... in a staged 1v1... the ship with the most DPS usually wins... but that doesnt neccesarily mean its the best for everyday play... part of the fight is hit and run.... and the rifter is a powerhouse when it comes down to hitting and running...
even in saying that.. i will admit the kestral is a beast... and you need to respect its pure dps ability... but the kestral has paper thin shields and armour...
its not the kestral thats problematic... its missiles themselves... which require redesign...
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Vendraen
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vendraen
Kestrel seems REALLY power starved. I've got 4x Malkuths on mine and there's no power left for anything else. :(
O_O
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:32:00 -
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part of the fight is hit and run.... and the rifter is a powerhouse when it comes down to hitting and running.
How do you expect to perform hit and run attack vs a ship that can lock you and hit you at twice the distance you can lock and ten times the distance you can fire and hit?
By the time you reach him it is time to run again - with missiles homing in on your ass from over 30km ;p
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Wilfan Ret'nub
Singularity.
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle
The rifter is my favourite frig atleast, with t2 ac and barrage ammo, it can kill several of AFs even, and with dual web it eats every ceptor in the game alive (except those pesky crows that dont enter web range).
(Plate)claw? Cheaters with ECM?
OTOH, Rifter is an awesome T1 tackler. Punisher comes close, but getting in range is more important than staying alive.
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McTaggart
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
How do you expect to perform hit and run attack vs a ship that can lock you and hit you at twice the distance you can lock and ten times the distance you can fire and hit?
You don't start 50km away? Try it at 5 km...
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Vasiliyan on 06/09/2006 14:53:32
Gah double post 
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:53:00 -
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Hmm.. what was the starting range for your frigate tournament? 15km is realistic, 30km seems excessive.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: kublai
It's a frigate, that's what you're missing.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:57:00 -
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we started at 50km 
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:02:00 -
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MANY T1 Frigs are sweet ships. And not only for PvP. Rifter is a nice T1 Frig for PvP, but Vigil is a sweet "run-about" ship. Probe is a sweet little cargo hauler, especially with 2x Nanofiber Internal Structure, a MWD and a small cap battery.
I love my Wolf, but I keep a stack of Rifters on hand.
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:10:00 -
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Its a t1 frig. The downside is it will get killed against almsot anything bigger. However, they are loverlly ships. My favorite friggy by far.
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F Apparition
Minmatar
Life Extermination
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:17:00 -
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I love the rifter. Fit it with a medium shield extender, or put a micro aux on it and put two of them + t2 autocannons and you have a very mean little frig there. I've always had a thing for flying one, no matter how long I've played this game.
I wouldn't call it overpowered though.
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Shigsy
Caldari
Four Horsemen
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
we started at 50km
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Well then kestrel would be the obvious choice in that situation...
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Sun Win
Gallente
Eve University
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Win on 06/09/2006 15:38:16
I'd never enter a frig tournament that forced me to start at 50km. Not unless I was allowed to warp out and then warp back in at 15km. Starting at 50km automatically gives the long range frigs a huge advantage.
In a non-tournament situation, at 50km the non-Kestrel guy, who is out of scram range just warps off when he realizes he can't win and then it's cat and mouse around the system until either someone jumps the other or someone docks.
My experience in real PVP is that most fights seem to happen around 0-30km. You warp into a belt or on to a gate or you are warping around a system huting for your prey. Then you close as fast as you can and warp scram them.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Win
I'd never enter a frig tournament that forced me to start at 50km. Not unless I was allowed to warp out and then warp back in at 15km. Starting at 50km automatically gives the long range frigs a huge advantage.
In a non-tournament situation, at 50km the non-Kestrel guy, who is out of scram range just warps off when he realizes he can't win and then it's cat and mouse around the system until either someone jumps the other or someone docks.
well it matters little since light missiles wont go much farther than 30km anyways you see.
And I have yet to face a 4x Rocket laucnher Kessie - bet that will be a pretty nasty surprise as well 
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Antodias
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha
Its a t1 frig. The downside is it will get killed against almsot anything bigger. However, they are loverlly ships. My favorite friggy by far.
Not sure about the Rifter, but my Punisher can take on almost all cruisers with standard setups... Granted, it's hard to stop them running away if they have an MWD but.. eh.
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Shadow Mancer
Warriors of God
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:58:00 -
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well back in the days when kestrels could fit 4 cruise missiles, kestrels could insta pop badger mk2 in Yulai b4 concords arrive lol ;-) But these days were gone, so yea a rifter it's fricking powerful , agree.
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F Apparition
Minmatar
Life Extermination
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Antodias
Originally by: Valea Silpha
Its a t1 frig. The downside is it will get killed against almsot anything bigger. However, they are loverlly ships. My favorite friggy by far.
Not sure about the Rifter, but my Punisher can take on almost all cruisers with standard setups... Granted, it's hard to stop them running away if they have an MWD but.. eh.
Rifter can do that as well. I say most t1 frigs can (the power ones I mean, rifer, punisher, krestel) if it has a good pilot on the frig side and a bad setup/bad pilot/bad situation on the cruisers.
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:13:00 -
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Of course the Rifter is the best frigate - didn't one blow up the death star?
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Antodias
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Antodias on 06/09/2006 16:41:44
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Of course the Rifter is the best frigate - didn't one blow up the death star?
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Dummy Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.06 17:13:00 -
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I ripped a rocketkessie to shreds in a punisher...
Which was funny cuz i only have L3 in amarr frig and L1 in small lasers hahahahahaha
offcourse having some serp hardners in low prolly did help a bit
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Wilfan Ret'nub
Singularity.
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Posted - 2006.09.06 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Of course the Rifter is the best frigate - didn't one blow up the death star?
Yea, but it had Torpedoes, so it preceeds the first missile nerf. Figures, as it was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away ...
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Cletus Graeme
Caldari
Mordu's Elite
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Posted - 2006.09.06 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 06/09/2006 18:22:58
Originally by: Sandra Tseng
we started at 50km
Doh ! 
Caldari specialise at long range combat and the better the pilot skills the longer the range they can engage at. The longer you make the start distance the more you skew things in their favour.
As has been said, 10-20km is a good start distance as it is considered mid range and does not allow you to web or nos someone immediately.
EVE combat is HIGHLY circumstantial, so if setup a situation which suits the fighting style of a particular pilot then they have a huge advantage to start with.
Kes vs Incursus would be a fair test with both starting at 10-15km
Merlin vs Tristan would also be fair
Punisher vs Rifter is the one everyone wants to see though 
Basically the Caldari & Gallente get 2 decent frigs each, while the Amarr & Minmatar only get 1. So for that reason, their single good frig needs to be pretty uber to compensate, hence the justifcation for the Punisher & the Rifter being overpowered compared to other frigs. Overall, it is actually well balanced, imo.
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Majin82
Caldari
Arkhangelos Alliance Naval Intelligence
Arkhangelos Command
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Posted - 2006.09.06 19:28:00 -
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I love the Kessie, its by far one of the meanest Frigates around. Put on 4 rocket launchers or light missile launchers with Kenetic Charges, and Level 4 or 5 in Frigate and you can own!
My current set up for PVP is an Active sheld set-up that cost around 30 mil in gear, but fires Rocket so fast it's insane.
My other Kessie with Missiles is just as deadly.
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Majin82
My other Kessie with Missiles is just as deadly.
Does it have a "My other Kestrel is faction fitted" bumper sticker?
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Lienzo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:08:00 -
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Rifter is a decent throwaway tackler.
Only with mwd and double webs and a dictor buddy it can catch a ceptor.
Other than that, all the mids plus the speed puts it above other disposable ships. MWD, scram, web. Or MWD, scram, sensor damp/turret disrupt.
It has the right number of slots for tackling.
The executioners and others should get webbing or warp scramble bonuses.
It may only have 23km lock range, but this is usually not a problem. It has no problems with cap or warping, and can accelerate to 3km/s quickly. And most of all, it looks like it was meant to fight and die, so there is no incentive towards self-preservation. It's a ship that actively expresses impatience with idleness.
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Tawl Oh
Amarr
Doom Guard
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Posted - 2006.09.07 04:22:00 -
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It seams that Gallente is the only race that doesn't have an awesome frig. The Kessie is really perfect for caldari with its missile layout. The trist just needs another turret HP, to replicate the rifters slot layout perfectly
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Ruah Piskonit
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:42:00 -
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But the Tristan has Drones. . .which are far more valuable in close combat. All in all, frigs reflect the style of each races combat styles well. . .
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tawl Oh
It seams that Gallente is the only race that doesn't have an awesome frig. The Kessie is really perfect for caldari with its missile layout. The trist just needs another turret HP, to replicate the rifters slot layout perfectly
Sure. And the cyclone needs 7 turrets because the brutix has it... 
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Freyda
Gallente
Celestial Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:55:00 -
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Tristans are way under rated. I should get my alt to go and blow people up in my tristan and take down some folks. Post the fraps videos and drive up demand for Tristans.
Or.. hmm.. I could just let people continue believing tristans suck and then getting my jollys be blowing them away.
(last 3 tournaments I saw were won by tristans)
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:10:00 -
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Kestrel is the best anti-frig T1 frig. That's because of missiles. In the same way the Crow is the best anti-frig frig period.
However, for other things, other frigates are better. Such as the Rifter or Stiletto for tackling, for example. Most frigs have a niche, Caldari's in general is killing other frigs.
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momotaro
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:20:00 -
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t1 frigs are wet paper. 5 small drones and youre gone faster than u can say "goldfish", so ur not really a takler, as taklers are ment to keep the target in place as fleet jumps in and warps to you, sry to say this folks but i never go in a gang that has t1 frigs as taklers, they die fast and we end up alone very soon.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:27:00 -
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i like my rifter. however, i would prefer a Naglfar
(overexaggerated the fact that yes its nice. but its a frigate)
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Freyda
Gallente
Celestial Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Kestrel is the best anti-frig T1 frig. That's because of missiles. In the same way the Crow is the best anti-frig frig period.
However, for other things, other frigates are better. Such as the Rifter or Stiletto for tackling, for example. Most frigs have a niche, Caldari's in general is killing other frigs.
Doesn't that depend on the situation, sure, if the Kestrel can start the fight at max range and has free reign to fire as they are forced to approach it, then they're perfect.
But well combat isn't always like that or else warp core stabs we we useless because no one would ever be in warp scramble range. If combat starts with the other frig already close up and personal then that paper thin tank lets the kestrel down everytime.
*looks at a tristan with 2 rails 2 launchers, and over 800 hp armour with plate vs kestrel that had to sacrifice it's entire grid to fit 4 launchers* even with damage mods on the kestrel my moneys on pretty much any of the other tier 3 frigs if the situation starts with them already in range. I find it similar to a dps thorax fitted with antimatter and medium blasters vs a caracel with the fight starting at the caracel's max range compared to a thorax sitting right next to a caracel with the same set up. Situation chooses how well a frig fairs.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy
Originally by: Sandra Tseng
we started at 50km
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Well then kestrel would be the obvious choice in that situation...
Actually, I'd kite everything in an MWD condor, which nicely outranges kestrels.
starting at 50 km... *shakes head*
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StarHunt
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:23:00 -
[58]
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Sandra Tseng
Well..we had a T1 frig tournament a week ago or soemthing.
Judging by the result of that
Kestrel is WAY WAY WAY more overpowered than any other T1 frig...
Insane....
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Kestrels have a good DPS, no tracking, and no real need for anything other than BCS in those lows.
Well, I would disagree with Ballistic Control comment . You need to fit micro aux powercore to fit it with afterburner and missiles and with BCU's you will run out of CPU real fast (even with maxsed electronicks skill).
Thou, in general it is indeed one awesome ship for a frigate. Just takes bigger than usual pile of SP to fit it well.
Carniflex
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Kestrel is the best anti-frig T1 frig. That's because of missiles.
And Raven is the best anti-bs T1 battleship. Also because of missiles. I see a pattern. :p
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