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Daniel Jackson Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant 175	Posted - 2015.01.02 05:48:11 - [91] - Quote there are many places you can find in highsec to mine, just mine far away from any market hubs or noob starter systems and then you should be fine you do not need any permit what so ever (even if you buy a permit from them they will still blow you up) cause its a scam I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
Keno Skir 712	Posted - 2015.01.02 05:55:36 - [92] - Quote Zetaomega333 wrote: It never has mattered what way you are facing as your time to warp is dependant on how long it takes you to get to warp speed and the direction your ship is facing has no impact on that. It will take the same amount of time if you are facing where you are warping or if you are facing the other way. This isn't true at all. Zetaomega333 you should potentially spend more time learning eve and less teaching it at this stage. Being aligned means you are already moving at or above warp speed in the direction of your warp destination. If you are stationary you will take the same time to reach minimum warp speed regardless which way you were originally facing. That said if you are stationary then you are not aligned (see above). If your ship is moving but not in the direction of your required warp alignment this can either mildly or very seriously effect the time it takes you to actually enter warp. If anyone wants to message me i'll teach you a trick to warp your battleship so fast it doesn't have time to turn around and warps off sideways or even backward :D Gùï> 3 Week Buddy Trial + ISK Bonus & Starting Assistance <Gùï Feel free to contact me regarding my posts, or my 21 Day EvE Buddy Trials \o/
Michael Ruckert SECURE TRANSPORTS 253	Posted - 2015.01.02 06:53:00 - [93] - Quote Tanked and rigged Procurers laugh at mining permits. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 176	Posted - 2015.01.02 07:54:50 - [94] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Zetaomega333 wrote: It never has mattered what way you are facing as your time to warp is dependant on how long it takes you to get to warp speed and the direction your ship is facing has no impact on that. It will take the same amount of time if you are facing where you are warping or if you are facing the other way. This isn't true at all. Zetaomega333 you should potentially spend more time learning eve and less teaching it at this stage. Being aligned means you are already moving at or above warp speed in the direction of your warp destination. If you are stationary you will take the same time to reach minimum warp speed regardless which way you were originally facing. That said if you are stationary then you are not aligned (see above). If your ship is moving but not in the direction of your required warp alignment this can either mildly or very seriously effect the time it takes you to actually enter warp. You literally repeated what he had just said. I had thought direction affected align time. In my first post I had meant 'stay aligned' as in stay facing the direction of warp-out. Mining while at warp-out speed is rather daft, as you'd overshoot the Asteroids you are mining rather quickly. I appreciate Zetaomega333 telling me this. Keno Skir wrote: If anyone wants to message me i'll teach you a trick to warp your battleship so fast it doesn't have time to turn around and warps off sideways or even backward :D Warping to the centre of a star isn't that new of a concept.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4266	Posted - 2015.01.02 08:18:07 - [95] - Quote OP - A little more advice from a CODE member. We are, as you have perhaps discovered, an extortion racket, as well as a bunch of people that love shooting spaceships. Whether you acquiesce to our demands or not is entirely your choice. If you elect to do so, you will have our word that we won't attack you - you can decide upon the worth of this word yourself. I personally have shot a permit holder exactly once, and that was after establishing that they were almost certainly running a bot. (I also reported them to CCP for doing so and provided extensive evidence, and a few weeks later they posted a thread on this very forum saying 'waa I was accused of botting when I wasn't and got temp banned'). If you elect not to do so - we will, of course, have to shoot your ships some of the times that we see them. If we do not do so, we devalue our permit product. We may not come for you tomorrow, or next week, but we have a pretty wide reach in highsec and can definitely project force elsewhere when we see fit. The gank was nothing personal. In other MMOs, you wouldn't use a potion that cost a third of your total in-game wealth, no matter how good its temporary effects are. In EVE, you shouldn't undock a ship you cannot afford to lose, as your ships are always mere consumables. We just help speed up the consumption process. If you really want to learn how to avoid suicide ganking, by far the best way is to gank for a while. Learn the limitations gankers face, and learn to exploit them. Mining aligned to safespots above and below a belt, for instance, dramatically increases your survivability and only reduces your yield if you stuff it up. If I saw a belt with one miner bouncing between alignment to an above-belt safe and alignment to a below-belt safe, and a second miner orbiting an asteroid, I'd gank the orbiter. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Keno Skir 712	Posted - 2015.01.02 08:59:34 - [96] - Quote Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: In my first post I had meant 'stay aligned' as in stay facing the direction of warp-out. Mining while at warp-out speed is rather daft, as you'd overshoot the Asteroids you are mining rather quickly. 1. You used the word "Aligned" incorrectly so can't really call me out on this. 2. If mining while Actually Aligned seems daft to you, you aren't smart enough to make your own safe's for when you mine. These safes will allow you to be aligned for warp 98% of the time you're mining, you just need one each end of your usual mining systems. I didn't repeat what he said, i added some information that is actually quite relevant to alignment / warping. Regardless if you know enough to notice it Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Keno Skir wrote: If anyone wants to message me i'll teach you a trick to warp your battleship so fast it doesn't have time to turn around and warps off sideways or even backward :D Warping to the centre of a star isn't that new of a concept. You don't know the trick i'm talking about since you can use it to warp anywhere and it involves no stars, quit trying to "beat" me and falling flat on your face. Gùï> 3 Week Buddy Trial + ISK Bonus & Starting Assistance <Gùï Feel free to contact me regarding my posts, or my 21 Day EvE Buddy Trials \o/
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 177	Posted - 2015.01.02 09:24:34 - [97] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: In my first post I had meant 'stay aligned' as in stay facing the direction of warp-out. Mining while at warp-out speed is rather daft, as you'd overshoot the Asteroids you are mining rather quickly. 1. You used the word "Aligned" incorrectly so can't really call me out on this. 2. If mining while Actually Aligned seems daft to you, you aren't smart enough to make your own safe's for when you mine. These safes will allow you to be aligned for warp 98% of the time you're mining, you just need one each end of your usual mining systems. I didn't repeat what he said, i added some information that is actually quite relevant to alignment / warping. Regardless if you know enough to notice it Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Warping to the centre of a star isn't that new of a concept. You don't know the trick i'm talking about since you can use it to warp anywhere and it involves no stars, quit trying to "beat" me and falling flat on your face. Yeah, I know. I was using the dictionary term, so, apologies. I don't mine for the second point, so, look, I'm not trying to "beat" you at all. I never said that. I had obviously assumed your posting intentions incorrect: Keno Skir wrote: This isn't true at all. Zetaomega333 you should potentially spend more time learning eve and less teaching it at this stage. Because it didn't sound like you were agreeing with him, and you had the same type of information. Quote: Something about Battleships... If you told me the 'trick' I would more than likely know it already. If not, then it probably wouldn't be of any benefit, nor relevant to me. Want to bash me some more? Go ahead.
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 157	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:20:41 - [98] - Quote Bing Bangboom wrote: Now the ISD is correct that CCP doesn't require it. That said the discussion could be over. Bing Bangboom wrote: The anti-Code posters are also correct Of course. Bing Bangboom wrote: You can try the, mostly bad, advice they provide. Of course, they don't provide you with any actual support to allow you to defy CODE., being forum alts, but they make very brave and defiant posts here where they are only ganked by their own rediculousness. "We" are not not stupid or carebears or soemthing codies say we are. Lets quote Confucius: "give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish, you feed him for life." "We" are miners not defenders and not white knights. (No whiteknights either, its business) However this "bad" choice, are in fact the best choices: - Do not be an easy target. - be watchful of you surroundings. - move you mining ship, standing still makes it easier to jump on you. ganking ships have a short range and gankers have a short time window to act. - get a decent tank that could keep you alive until concord comes. - being in a group reduces the chance that "you" are chosen. - do not talk to codies, since thats where they are "fishing" for emotional reactions, or stories for their ridiculous blog. - join a corps and move to nullsec. (earnings are better) - make them "work" to kill you, codies go for easy weak targets that ignore this tipps. Bing Bangboom wrote: ... 4) Confiscation of some or all of your ingame assets 5) Public humiliation at your impotent defiance on the www.minerbumping.com blog Look at that... Remember: DO NOT TALK TO CODE!! And 4: They cannot to that! Acting like they are something somehow official from CCP is some thing they try from time to time until they get slapped on the fingers by CCP. Follow my tipps and you will be not ganked as my indu-alts where not ganked. Forum Main
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 349	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:46:11 - [99] - Quote La Rynx wrote: And 4: They cannot to that! Acting like they are something somehow official from CCP is some thing they try from time to time until they get slapped on the fingers by CCP. Of course we can demand a permit. The New Order has made a claim on all of highsec and we back up that claim with guns. We are playing Eve like it was designed by CCP. Buy a permit and get compliant with the Code or risk losing your ship, or better yet, come at us with your own guns. It really quite that simple OP. We are the true heroes of Eve for bringing excitement to often-dull highsec. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 5586	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:46:58 - [100] - Quote Quanah Comanche wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Foodpimp wrote: Code is basically the Brave Newbies of high sec. "Brave" at what? At shooting AFK (possibly clueless) miners? Really. There is no resemblance......most of CODE are newbs anyhow. New alts, for sure. Real, new players? Have to prove that. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 5587	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:52:57 - [101] - Quote Erica Dusette wrote: Yes, I am the proud posessor of a CODE 12 month mining and hauling permit. I may not display it in my bio because that's for normal people to do, plus there's no room. But never the less, I do have one and you can learn more by reading last July's exciting entry in my wormhole diaries. /Shameless plug I had been about to write a snarky comment about somebody actually willing to mine / haul for 12 months to begin with. But then I recalled that for a while I found mining a relaxing post-work low effort activity.... but then... when CODE came to "my" system I hired people to kill them. That's what racketeers get from me: a missile up their butt. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 349	Posted - 2015.01.02 11:09:04 - [102] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: I had been about to write a snarky comment about somebody actually willing to mine / haul for 12 months to begin with. But then I recalled that for a while I found mining a relaxing post-work low effort activity.... but then... when CODE came to "my" system I hired people to kill them. That's what racketeers get from me: a missile up their butt. You see? The Code always wins! We have been bringing quality emergent content to highsec for over two years, spicing up gameplay there for everyone. Fighting us is one option, and is totally a valid one. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 158	Posted - 2015.01.02 11:20:52 - [103] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: La Rynx wrote: And 4: They cannot to that! Acting like they are something somehow official from CCP is some thing they try from time to time until they get slapped on the fingers by CCP. Of course we can demand a permit. The New Order has made a claim on all of highsec and we back up that claim with guns. And you get answered by Concorde. Black Pedro wrote: Buy a permit and get compliant with the Code or risk losing your ship You sound like a door-to-door salesman in a wheelchair. This is EvE, there is always a chance to lose the ship. A permit is good only for codies making fun of permit buyers. Black Pedro wrote: , or better yet, come at us with your own guns. It really quite that simple OP. Or use the antigank tips. Or hire some mercs. Or other stuff. Just do not submit to Jerks. Black Pedro wrote: We are the true heroes of Eve for bringing excitement to often-dull highsec. No you are not heroes. You feed on the weak. You try to missinform them to keep you easy victims. You do everything for yourself and not for the sake of EvE. Forum Main
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji. 1859	Posted - 2015.01.02 11:25:25 - [104] - Quote (Eating popcorn and wondering when the troll feeding will stop. Maybe when I run out of popcorn?)
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 158	Posted - 2015.01.02 11:46:41 - [105] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: La Rynx wrote: And 4: They cannot to that! Acting like they are something somehow official from CCP is some thing they try from time to time until they get slapped on the fingers by CCP. Of course we can demand a permit. The New Order has made a claim on all of highsec and we back up that claim with guns. Guns? Firepower? Again AT 2014: One claim was that code was busy enforcing code... On the other hand loyalanon committed, that he had not 12 capable and willing pilots for the AT. Even the Joke of a catalyst run was them denied. CODE=300 alts but less than 100 players. Supporters do not count. No, you do not have enough guns or firepower. But you DO have a lot of alts. No much use after the last multibox changes. Black Pedro wrote: We are playing Eve like it was designed by CCP. You d-ck around hisec and blame and anoy other players doing the same. :P Forum Main
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 179	Posted - 2015.01.02 11:55:50 - [106] - Quote La Rynx wrote: Blah La Rynx, you are becoming a victim of your own suggestion. "Do not talk to them" I thought, you said. You are aware that their posts are to evoke that kind of reaction, so whatever is the reason this bothers you so?
Dominique Vasilkovsky BFG Tech 115	Posted - 2015.01.02 12:31:30 - [107] - Quote So how much is one of these permits anyways? Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard Once known as: Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 5590	Posted - 2015.01.02 12:39:53 - [108] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: I had been about to write a snarky comment about somebody actually willing to mine / haul for 12 months to begin with. But then I recalled that for a while I found mining a relaxing post-work low effort activity.... but then... when CODE came to "my" system I hired people to kill them. That's what racketeers get from me: a missile up their butt. You see? The Code always wins! We have been bringing quality emergent content to highsec for over two years, spicing up gameplay there for everyone. Fighting us is one option, and is totally a valid one. Imo, since it is so popular, your group has a chance to educate the new players. Think about this: the average guy comes from one of any sweetheart MMOs out there where the worst they ever experience is when somebody "steals" their mobs / NPCs. They also come with the idea that the MMO developers HAVE to code in some certain "path to level up" and "end game". EvE is not any of that. In EvE you, me and also the miners ARE and create the content themselves. That's what sets EvE apart, it can't get old as long as people "interact" in a more or less explosion happy way. Of course I don't agree on racketeers so I'll hire an high sec merc corp to deal with them but that's fair and square content creation on our behalf. Those who come on the forum to ask how to avoid interactions, how to "solo in peace" etc. etc. are actually doing EvE a disservice, because EvE is based exactly on interactions. Of course the above is different than asking for advice about how to become a less desired target (which implies the guy is willing to challenge or at least "be present" on the scene), I find this to be OK enough. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 180	Posted - 2015.01.02 12:40:39 - [109] - Quote Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote: So how much is one of these permits anyways? 10 million ISK. 310 million if you're a Freighter. Probably about 10 billion ISK if you actually want them to honour it. Or you could just kill them. Y' know, with a Catalyst. A eye for an eye makes the whole world prosperous. Wasn't that how it goes?
Lin Suizei 224	Posted - 2015.01.02 13:04:06 - [110] - Quote Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Or you could just kill them. Y' know, with a Catalyst. A eye for an eye makes the whole world prosperous. Wasn't that how it goes? Truly, this is the best option, embracing both the letter and spirit of the Code in bringing emergent gameplay to New Eden - though you'd perhaps be surprised how difficult it is to get a carebear to actually fight back. Hell, you could give them a free combat ship and they probably wouldn't get in, citing "principle" or something. Lol I can't delete my forum sig.
Dominique Vasilkovsky BFG Tech 115	Posted - 2015.01.02 13:14:23 - [111] - Quote Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote: So how much is one of these permits anyways? 10 million ISK. 310 million if you're a Freighter. Probably about 10 billion ISK if you actually want them to honour it. Or you could just kill them. Y' know, with a Catalyst. A eye for an eye makes the whole world prosperous. Wasn't that how it goes? Thanks, that is a nice little money maker for them if people actually pay. After nearly 9 years of playing I have yet to be suicide ganked. Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard Once known as: Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
Velicitia XS Tech 2672	Posted - 2015.01.02 13:16:51 - [112] - Quote Ptraci wrote: (Eating popcorn and wondering when the troll feeding will stop. Maybe when I run out of popcorn?) brings a (CODE. - approved) shipment of popcorn, and T2 tear buckets. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 158	Posted - 2015.01.02 13:37:34 - [113] - Quote Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: La Rynx wrote: Blah Blubb? So i need to point out that i meant "ingame"? OK: I meant ingame, what else... getting cookies and coffee. Forum Main
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 1989	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:04:11 - [114] - Quote Hello there, sexy.... Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 352	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:57:29 - [115] - Quote La Rynx wrote: You sound like a door-to-door salesman in a wheelchair. This is EvE, there is always a chance to lose the ship. A permit is good only for codies making fun of permit buyers. A wheelchair? Anyways, a permit is only 10M ISK and is good for a whole year. For that price, it would be silly not to by the permit - almost 10 trillion ISK has been destroyed by the CODE. alliance alone, much of which would have been spared if pilots just paid the pittance for a permit which even a highsec miner can earn in an hour or two. Even if you think it is unlikely we will find you, it just makes economic sense for that extra bit of safety while operating in our territory. La Rynx wrote: Guns? Firepower? Again AT 2014: One claim was that code was busy enforcing code... On the other hand loyalanon committed, that he had not 12 capable and willing pilots for the AT. Even the Joke of a catalyst run was them denied. CODE=300 alts but less than 100 players. Supporters do not count. No, you do not have enough guns or firepower. But you DO have a lot of alts. No much use after the last multibox changes. What are you going on about? The CODE. alliance won the tournament before it even started, and then made history by going undefeated. Ask a hundred highsec miners if they remember who CCP declared the winner and I bet you will not get even one correct answer. In fact, more will probably answer Code than anything else. This is more proof that emergent content and our brand of elite PvP trumps inconsequential structured "PvP" in this beautiful sandbox that is Eve. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 12421	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:02:20 - [116] - Quote La Rynx... how about you stfu already instead of enabling idiots? Because that's what you do. All day, every day. Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear! If you are reading this while being naked ... me too!!
Aischa Montagne Blut-Klauen-Clan 7	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:14:31 - [117] - Quote currently the best way to counter ganking efficently is to be somewhere else as a solo Miner. Eden is big enough to find a system where gankers usually do not show up. Ganking looks for 2 factors in general: a) targets b) time to take those targets down. If you are in a 0.5 System with lots of miners you will likely get ganking attention. In a 0.8 or 0.9 System with 5 - 10 Miners gankers are less likely to show up. The Security rating in a system tells you something about how long Concord needs to jump into the system and destroy the ganking ship. The amount of miners show you how much fun there is. You can be ganked in all system, it is a question of firepower the gankers bring with em. BTW I am not sure about 1.0 System, it maybe that this system because they are starting systems, ganking maybe sanctioned by higher authorities. As a beginner I would try a petition in this systems. (I think it is fruitless elsewere) Beware that not all Gankers are part of CODE. There are some not flying the ganking color right away. I recommend to start chatting with other miners in the system. They can share the information who to look out for. "Solo" ganking always consist of a pair of 2 ships. 1 for Ganking and 1 for scouting & looting. Knowing the scout can also be a good preparation. Be carefull with Combat Drones. They can be used to lure you in a attack position. I am unsure if this ganking tactics is prohibited or not. The Operative loss and the trouble is yours to start with. If you are a good skilled Drone pilot 2 combat Drones are usually enough for High sec Pirates. You may want to deploy the others 3 as defensive (repair drones) or E-War drones depending of your style of operations. Defensive drones can help to enhance your defensiv capabilities further in a mining fleet. E-War Drones can cause the ganker to loose target, which is imho most efficent tactics to survive in a direct confrontation. Time is always on your side, and the Drone Damage does not matter imho you will not be faster then concord. Win time until the Caverally shows up. Skilling is one of the most important things when you get into a confrontation. Especially with gankers. Since as pointed out the defensive Attributes are most important, you should look up following certificates and keep those in shape. (you find them by clicking on your portrait in the menubar and select the Skills folder + Certificates tab) engeneering -> core Spaceship Operation Shields -> Shield tanking Shields -> reinforcment Armor -> armor tanking Armor -> reinforcement I hope this thoughts helps miners to make it more chellangeing for gankers. Please consider the other advices too. The fitting posted earlier is nice, however you need the skills for it. And you need to understand how the fitting is working. Why it is working. I had a lot of fitting discusions, and the most annoying ones were those in which people throw fittings around them without understanding what the fitting was doing and why it is better then another fitting. Even if the ones shown were apropriate, the discussion was fruitless since they could not argue on another fittings performance compared to theirs. fly save Aischa Montagne Note: sorry for the spelling mistakes.
ISD LackOfFaith ISD Community Communications Liaisons 2030	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:19:35 - [118] - Quote There is some spectacularly bad posting here. Thread locked for cleanup. ISD LackOfFaith Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.
Equinnox Dethahal Black Anvil Industries SpaceMonkey's Alliance 20	Posted - 2015.01.02 16:15:37 - [119] - Quote Look the best way to avoid bottom feeders is to not hang out on the bottom. That might mean taking your mining operations into a corporation with their own space. As someone who spent a good month high sec mining (im a new player) and now mining in nullsec....its a big mindset difference. In high sec there are so many random people everywhere its hard to know, even with setting corps -10.00, who you need to avoid, without learning the hard way over and over. Its easy to glaze over, ignore whos in local (too many to track tbh) and not have a good escape plan or escape fit because, well high sec, your automatically off guard. In null (and im sure low) sec, you can pretty much assume that non friendly locals are there to gank you, and its easier to take precaution until you get someone to get a visual on the non friendly. You are in the mind set that ganks are coming with the territory and are fit for it, with an escape route, and its FAR easier to monitor local chat for gankers. Sure youll have to deal with sparse markets not being in a high sec trade hub, and hauling through really dangerous space if you want to sell there.... If you want to mine in high sec, what I did, and it did work, was I went away from the main trade hub about 9 jumps away, and tried to find a 0.7 (i wanted to not be on the edge of low sec but far enough from 1.0 to avoid the crowds) system that was a dead end (less people passing by traveling) and loaded my ore into the station there, while mining I was able to recognize the few regulars who mined there as well. Then I just dealt with the 9 jump trip to the trade hub to dump. Basically don't be afraid to check out a lot of high sec systems, even if they are in another races territory, find one with a lot of belts (harder for a ganker to do a quick check when there are 15 belts vs 4, sometimes gankers will just check on their way passing through), between the uber high traffic of 1.0 and the low sec border, preferably in a system that's a dead end, and set up shop there for a while. That or get into a low/null sec corp/alliance and at least when you get ganked it wont be by the bottom feeders of eve.
Saai Einjhar Black Ice Tactical Echelon 0	Posted - 2015.01.02 16:36:14 - [120] - Quote The best advice I was ever given about EVE was "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose". I haven't always lived by that, but I certainly strive to. Good luck getting back on your spacefeet.

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