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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12460
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:51:02 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote:I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere? New Order is an affable lot of role players. You could choose to resist their petty tyranny or enjoy their endless entertainment. There are several ways to do this. 1) Just sit in local and listen to their endless babble. Some really take to their roleplaying with conviction and it is great fun trying to pull them out of character. 2) Spend time bumping them. They absolutely hate being chased around and bumped. 3) The gank usually consists of one Catalyst. If you surmise this situation antagonize them While mining in an extremely tanky miner. Hilarity ensues when they get Concorded and you boat back for repairs. Don't look for CCP for assistance. They changed their definition of griefing to allow this sort of behavior, it is classified as emergent, not griefing or bullying. No they didn't. You're a liar. Oh yes they did. I know this because I informed them at the time that their definition of griefing included the example "miner bumping". Within a week the definition was changed. That's a lie.
Miner bumping never was anywhere part of the EULA or TOS. Bumping as a whole wasn't.
History proves you wrong, you liar. The GMs had to actually have conferences about how to deal with this and declared that it's a-ok as long as requirements are met ... thus the mining-permit was born.
You can look that up in the very thread in C&P that is exactly about that!
You are a stinking liar and a bad one, too.
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Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2090
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:51:04 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Solecist Project wrote: You know what else the forums need, Zimmy?
bacon?
There's no such thing as enough bacon.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12460
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:52:18 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Solecist Project wrote: You know what else the forums need, Zimmy?
bacon? Noooo ... proper content!
I sit down on your lap, my legs spread left and right ... ... and wrap my arms around your neck*
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai
Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
If you are reading this while being naked ... me too!!
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:54:56 -
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Solecist Project wrote:YOUR PARENTS HAD SEX BEFORE YOU EVEN WERE BORN! Fish have had sex, and pooped, in the water you drink 
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
53158
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:56:01 -
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Solecist Project wrote: I sit down on your lap, my legs spread left and right ... ... and wrap my arms around your neck*

Bloodninja wrote: Rhinoceruses don't play games. They f**king charge your ass.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12460
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:59:36 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Solecist Project wrote:YOUR PARENTS HAD SEX BEFORE YOU EVEN WERE BORN! Fish have had sex, and pooped, in the water you drink  I can actually ...
There was this what-if from xkcd about how we are all drinking water that had been peed into by dinosaurs, but I can't find it.
:/
Also, my dad has a t-shirt about exactly that.
I DON'T DRINK WATER, BECAUSE FISH F*** IN IT !
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12460
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:00:50 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Solecist Project wrote: I sit down on your lap, my legs spread left and right ... ... and wrap my arms around your neck*
 What?
You don't like it? :\
*slowly crawls her fingers through your hair*
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai
Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
53158
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:01:20 -
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Solecist Project wrote: There was this what-if from xkcd about how we are all drinking water that had been peed into by dinosaurs, but I can't find it.
You mean this one http://theoatmeal.com/comics/water ?
edit:
Anyway, I'm off to bed. Naturalcause Lemon's permit has been bought, he is now even a CODE shareholder, thus I consider this topic exhausted.
Good night GD !
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:02:58 -
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admiral root wrote:Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:And you think your 'expendable' gank ships do not operate with a crew also!? How dare you undermine their efforts to make a career serving on your ship, when you just destroy it immediately? He's not the one comparing RL stuff to in-game stuff. Yeah.. I know... I skim-read the post initially. Bad things happen when you do that. |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12460
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:04:54 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Solecist Project wrote: There was this what-if from xkcd about how we are all drinking water that had been peed into by dinosaurs, but I can't find it.
You mean this one http://theoatmeal.com/comics/water ? Nonono it definitely was from xkcd, think what-if.
I lean forward, kissing your nose. <3
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai
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If you are reading this while being naked ... me too!!
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2092
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:14:23 -
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http://what-if.xkcd.com/74/
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12461
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:17:18 -
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admiral root wrote:http://what-if.xkcd.com/74/ Damn, I skipped over that, because I thought it's about something else!
Thanks admiral Sir! *salutes*
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:20:15 -
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Drinking dinosaur pee? That's cool, but..
A more worse one would be the percent amount of atoms your body has, that was dinosaur poop. I'd rather not know that figure. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5597
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:24:13 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Second, my home country had (and still has, in some areas) some omni-present, heavy IRL racketing and I hated that. Outside of EvE, racketing is not funny stuff, they shoot your relatives and burn your home / shop / factory if you don't toss loads of money to their sharks. Hence I made a point to never, ever submit to racketeers, even if this is "just" a game. I prefer paying 500M a week to an high sec corp - out of my OWN decision - than 10M a year to racketeers.
I agree that outside of EVE protection rackets are heinous entities. But you know what else is heinous IRL? Massacring conscripts without allowing them to surrender, which is exactly what mission runners do every day of the week. Those Serpentis battleships you blow up for a 400k bounty have 4-6 thousand people on them, a good number of them unwilling. RL morality matters because out of game, the consequences of ruthlessly competitive behaviour are serious. In game, all that people lose are consumable space pixels.
There's a subtle difference between shooting NPCs and racketing (or something else) somebody. In the first case there's no consequence at all. In the second, you are affecting the somebody who sits behind his pixellated spaceship.
For some reason (subjective to me, but I DO follow my own subjectivity), I prefer (and did that) going say to Amamake and shoot evidently willing (to fight) people vs imposing something that could make people feel bad. Expecially the meta-game kind of bad.
I personally don't do but still am OK with shooting random guys like Solstice Project would do. In fact I even sent him money to do so, in the past... 
Instead, I am against "mind tricks", making people feel bad (I recall the case with those guys getting people on their private voice chat to psyche-assault them and make them miserable) and against un-educational things like promoting racketing. But that's just me and my evidently overbloated morals. 
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2149
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:41:55 -
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Yay me!
Thanks VV. ^_^
Unlike the griefers I never was about making people feel bad anyway.
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 Calendar by Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Finn Stanley
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.01.03 02:20:27 -
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First thing first, read the ganking guide in the mentioned website (is the only interesting posting), or was a guide about ganking exhumers in themittani, i dont remember, inform yourself in the way this people act, and you will realize that .5-.8 is their threshold, 14000 points of damage are their limit and in general that they are just jerks that invented that code thing to justify their inner void, they will kill you if they feel bored even if you pay the permit, they will kill you if they feel like it even if you paid ransom, so all their role playing about their laws is meaningless, stay in 1.0 or 0.9 get away from ice belts and for godsake stay away from their territories, i mine 20 - 30 millions daily 2 - 3 hours after work till around 12 pm, most of the time while doing something else, am i a bot wanna be? no im not, because if i were i would be making 150 millions daily, i dont need them, i produce and sell passively, are they butthurt because people gain hundreds of millions docked in stations playing the market, of course they are, but they cant do anything about it. So, mine far away from them and be smart dont give them free advertising... ive yet to be ganked by them but when they do i wont say anything, just because is meaningless.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2193
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Posted - 2015.01.03 02:32:47 -
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Finn Stanley wrote:First thing first, read the ganking guide in the mentioned website (is the only interesting posting), or was a guide about ganking exhumers in themittani, i dont remember, inform yourself in the way this people act, and you will realize that .5-.8 is their threshold, 14000 points of damage are their limit and in general that they are just jerks that invented that code thing to justify their inner void, they will kill you if they feel bored even if you pay the permit, they will kill you if they feel like it even if you paid ransom, so all their role playing about their laws is meaningless, stay in 1.0 or 0.9 get away from ice belts and for godsake stay away from their territories, i mine 20 - 30 millions daily 2 - 3 hours after work till around 12 pm, most of the time while doing something else, am i a bot wanna be? no im not, because if i were i would be making 150 millions daily, i dont need them, i produce and sell passively, are they butthurt because people gain hundreds of millions docked in stations playing the market, of course they are, but they cant do anything about it. So, mine far away from them and be smart dont give them free advertising... ive yet to be ganked by them but when they do i wont say anything, just because is meaningless.
Dear Sir or Madam ... maybe even both.
First of all your lack of paragraphs hints at you raging, which makes you look like an immature child. You probably didn't know, but people who rage most often don't use paragraphs, because *they type out of rage* and completely forget everything else.
It's the feeling that makes one type and type and type. It's a way to cope with it. In the real world people would be screaming at someone and argueing back and forth, but as that's not possible on a forum it expresses itself this way.
Then there's "jerks" ... "justify their inner void" ... which confirms this pretty much.
And there's the last line, too ... "ive yet to be ganked by them but when they do i wont say anything".
You're a liar. Either you're a liar in regards to not having been ganked, or you're a liar about how you wouldn't say anything.
Anyhow ... if all of this was meaningless, you wouldn't have posted this.
So I guess we can add "cognitive dissonance" to the list as well.
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Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
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Asura Vajrarupa
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of Metropolis
18
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Posted - 2015.01.03 05:38:18 -
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Honestly kids the only thing I did when I started seeing people in my area ganking with catalysts was to buy a catalyst BPO and start my science alt on researching it up. I plan to be in full production swing before the FOTM for ganking changes.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
432
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Posted - 2015.01.03 06:44:20 -
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Yes, you need a permit to mine in highsec.
I hope that answers your question.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Posting With Alt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.01.03 09:18:57 -
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You wouldn't spin a ship. You wouldn't gank CONCORD. You wouldn't double an ISK. You wouldn't steal an asteroid.
PERMITLESS MINING IS STEALING. STEALING IS AGAINST THE LAW.
Non-compliancy: It's a crime. |
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
71
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Posted - 2015.01.03 09:43:27 -
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Asura Vajrarupa wrote:Honestly kids the only thing I did when I started seeing people in my area ganking with catalysts was to buy a catalyst BPO and start my science alt on researching it up. I plan to be in full production swing before the FOTM for ganking changes.
You're behind the ball my friend, real men don't fly cats anymore.
Isn't that right John?
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
199
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Posted - 2015.01.03 09:53:21 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:E: Mind if I steal that "You wouldn't steal a" bit? It made me laugh. That'd be so much funnier if someone put into the form of the video advertisement.
Actually, I could probably do that. |

Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
71
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Posted - 2015.01.03 09:55:12 -
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Please do. More content is a win for everybody. |

John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
437
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:45:09 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:You're behind the ball my friend, real men don't fly cats anymore.
Isn't that right John?
2015 is gonna be a good year Tisi!
Quote:- Immediate purging of all CODE. corps of anyone with 100+ thrasher kills and the creation of the suggested corp (New Order Pot Luck Supper Club) that we may or may not allow into CODE. - Implementation and enforcement of a unified character background so a thrasher ganker can be easily identified by others. - An agreed upon tag word to be used when communicating in public channels with a thrasher ganker. Example: Nice empty pod kill, scrub... "Scrub" is just a suggestion but you can guess what I'm looking for.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
663
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:57:52 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? There is no real safety anywhere in EvE. If you undock, you can be shot at. Period. But do you need a permit from whatever organisation to do what you want to do in game? The answer is no, you do not. Post with your main
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
73
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Posted - 2015.01.03 11:08:50 -
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Ahem
I play the way I want to play, there is nothing wrong with that John, I find it relaxing. It is wrong of you to try and get me to change. Just because you don't find my style of gaming enjoyable doesn't mean I'm not an important part of the economy. Without us thrasher gankers the implant industry would collapse. Also, I have powerful friends in highsec.
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
438
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Posted - 2015.01.03 11:26:10 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:Ahem
I play the way I want to play, there is nothing wrong with that John, I find it relaxing. It is wrong of you to try and get me to change. Just because you don't find my style of gaming enjoyable doesn't mean I'm not an important part of the economy. Without us miners the economy would collapse. Also, I have powerful friends in nullsec.
#stand up to tyranny
I changed 3 things...
 
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Haywoud Jablomi
The Circus Corp Alternate Allegiance
4
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:43:26 -
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CODE is a lot of fun to mess with.
Get a Skiff or Procurer. Tank it nicely, get some ECM drones. Single destroyer wont take you out before Concord wrecks their day.
Hi Sec gankers are pretty cowardly. If you even look like you are going to put up a fight, they will leave you alone. |

Posting With Alt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:02:55 -
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Haywoud Jablomi wrote: Hi Sec gankers are pretty cowardly.
The problem here is you're confusing bravery with stupidity.
Why in the world would you assume a single Catalyst or Thrasher is going to try to rough up a Procurer or a Skiff in the first place? In fact by sacrificing yield for tank you are only glorifying the New Order and furthering its mission for a smarter Highsec.
CODE wins if they gank your barge. CODE wins if they force you to fly Procurers and Skiffs.
If you haven't figured it out yet: the CODE always wins. The only way to be a winner yourself is to purchase a Mining Permit. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
2101
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:06:14 -
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Posting With Alt wrote:If you haven't figured it out yet: the CODE always wins. The only way to be a winner yourself is to purchase a Mining Permit.
And comply with the Code at all times. Failure to do so will invalidate your permit and may lead to you being added to the red pen list.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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