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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.06 20:05:19 -
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Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
906
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:20:46 -
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+1 for the effort and for
ISD Ezwal wrote:Thread reopened.
Remove insurance.
This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3307
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:23:33 -
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Everyone needs a highsec mining permit.
Everyone knows this.
You should contact your closest CODE representative today and get one asap. |
Z'kroooh Ouau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:19:01 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:[quote] Forum rules Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it.
[/list] Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling. (Ed: reviewed some of my wording) Now, please tell us of mighty ISD that how suicide ganking is different from griefing?
Suicide gank is the definition of griefing.
There is no other objective than to ruin players day.
There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners.
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Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope Gallente Federation
147
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:26:29 -
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No permit required as an eve mechanic
slightly increased risk by not having one...bit like a cheaper module on your ship
its still crap
The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
239
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:28:13 -
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Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Quote:Forum rules Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it.
Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling. (Ed: reviewed some of my wording) Now, please tell us of mighty ISD that how suicide ganking is different from griefing? Suicide gank is the definition of griefing. There is no other objective than to ruin players day. There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners.
Quote:Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it. Like he said, specific targeting of a player with gameplay denying tactics unto that specific player. Yes the objective is to ruin somebody's day, but it's pretty easy to prevent.
It's like me saying: "No, don't target me! I'm only here to fight NPCs in your -1.0 security space! How could you!?" |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
145
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:51:15 -
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Naturalcause Lemon wrote:I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?
Or goto 0.0 if you really want to mine in peace and join a major alliance.
But the rules of 0.0 is always keep an eye out in local for hostiles.
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
239
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:55:10 -
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45thtiger 0109 wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote:I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere? Or goto 0.0 if you really want to mine in peace and join a major alliance. But the rules of 0.0 is always keep an eye out in local for hostiles. You're no more at peace than in high security. If you apply the same 'check local' rule to high security, then you'll be well aware of possible ganks. Unfortunately a lot don't... And thus we have continued ganks. |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
145
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:58:18 -
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Renly Hagen wrote:Hmmm...I've never had a problem mining in either highsec or lowsec and have never seen anyone from CODE.
Well watchout CODE might be after you next.
You just open another can of worms ouch
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.09 00:02:20 -
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Or miners could grow a pair and shoot back
lawdy RAPTOR who shalt defend the sheep!?...and the raptor jesus said thus...protect them!? you art a fool, we must provoke them in order to draw out their inner doomkitty
And the Vapor hath done so since
The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
272
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Posted - 2015.01.09 02:53:42 -
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Vapor Ventrillian wrote:Or miners could grow a pair and shoot back lawdy RAPTOR who shalt defend the sheep!?...and the raptor jesus said thus...protect them!? you art a fool, we must provoke them in order to draw out their inner doomkitty And the Vapor hath done so since Haven't you heard, according to some miners are completely defenseless despite having the choice of using ships that have the ability to fit substantial tanks and bonuses to drone damage at the expense of a little yield.
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
1040
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Posted - 2015.01.09 03:09:24 -
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I think it is neat you can have an alt or friend shoot you in a rookie ship spawn concord and mine in peace until concord leaves. Then when they do you just get in another free rookie ship and spawn concord again.
I think probably the coolest thing is, for a small price you can keep that alts sec status mostly neutral which should totally be worth having the constant security of CONCORD around. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1971
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Posted - 2015.01.09 09:29:12 -
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Naturalcause Lemon wrote:I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?
You are not safe doing ANYTHING in eve that is done while undocked.
Not only mining.. ANYTHING.
But no do not pay attention to that mining permit bullshit. JSut go far far away in a remote corner of non pupolated territory and you chances of being ganked drop tenfold.
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
For the rest hire PoH |
Recruitment
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1971
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Posted - 2015.01.09 09:35:31 -
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Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:[quote] Forum rules Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it.
[/list] Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling. (Ed: reviewed some of my wording) Now, please tell us of mighty ISD that how suicide ganking is different from griefing? Suicide gank is the definition of griefing. There is no other objective than to ruin players day. There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners.
Nope because they have other objective than to make yOUR life miserable. Their objective is a global scale enforcement of no mining in high sec. That is not griefing.
I do think their work is made too easy by destroyers... but besides that they are entitled to play like that.
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
185
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:55:39 -
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no code are morons, you don't need a permit but they have players that don't mine paying them to kill carebears (people that don't take risk) and are trying to run everyone out of highsec/ quit the game/ go to null sec
I have a way to help you in mining as I do so if youll contact me ingame I can assist you there and tell you more.
for the people that say this is a military economy, missions/ratting/incursions is all isk printing, making isk out of nothing unless you salvage too, Mining is not making isk out of nothing but getting minerals to put on market while some mins are flooded, all mins go into building something to blown up soon or later and disappears from the game, the isk to buy those does not disappear except in taxes, the isk just changes hands
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
409
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:08:05 -
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Agondray wrote:for the people that say this is a military economy, missions/ratting/incursions is all isk printing, making isk out of nothing unless you salvage too, Mining is not making isk out of nothing but getting minerals to put on market while some mins are flooded, all mins go into building something to blown up soon or later and disappears from the game, the isk to buy those does not disappear except in taxes, the isk just changes hands Resources are resources friend. Every bit of ore you mine and put on the market devalues my ore - it's just simple supply and demand.
You can't let resource printing like mining go unchecked or it will ruin the economy. That's why there needs to be both some risk, and some guidelines (AKA the Code), to keep miners under control.
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
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Varathius
Blood Fountain Massacre LOADED-DICE
144
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:37:10 -
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Naturalcause Lemon wrote:I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?
best thing is to give the alliance called CODE your exact location. They will for sure gladly be flying escort and protection duties for your needs, for a price. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7242
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:44:48 -
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Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere?
You are not safe doing anything anywhere
"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2780
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:47:24 -
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Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:[quote] Forum rules Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it.
[/list] Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling. (Ed: reviewed some of my wording) Now, please tell us of mighty ISD that how suicide ganking is different from griefing? Suicide gank is the definition of griefing. There is no other objective than to ruin players day. There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners. Cowards like you are worse.
Post with your main or go back to wow.
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai
Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2780
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:48:26 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? You are not safe doing anything anywhere Lil Sol wants a vampire master.
Any hints?
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai
Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7243
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:53:59 -
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Sol Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? You are not safe doing anything anywhere Lil Sol wants a vampire master. Any hints?
When they want you, they will find you
Or so Im told
I wouldnt know anythin about nothin
"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway
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Renegade Heart
Failbear Refuge
351
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Posted - 2015.01.09 17:04:04 -
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Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:Suicide gank is the definition of griefing.
There is no other objective than to ruin players day.
There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners.
Actually you can make a ton of isk through suicide ganking. Most people will assume that a ganker is a part of CODE, but they forget that the ganking community is much larger than that.
For example, you will have players who scan tech 1 haulers with alts, and then blow up ones with valuable loot, by suicide ganking it with a cheap ship. Then an alt will loot the wreck.
You could easily make a billion isk in one hit if you get lucky, only losing some ship worth tens of millions.
So you are mistaken in your assumptions about suicide ganking. |
Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
53600
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Posted - 2015.01.09 17:05:23 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Sol Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? You are not safe doing anything anywhere Lil Sol wants a vampire master. Any hints? When they want you, they will find you Or so Im told I wouldnt know anythin about nothin
If you build it, they will come.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1823
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Posted - 2015.01.09 17:47:58 -
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Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:Suicide gank is the definition of griefing.
There is no other objective than to ruin players day.
There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners. The idea that PvP is griefing and the idea that the purpose of a game is to grind to gain virtual [something of value] seem to go hand in hand.
When you forget that it is possible to play games for fun, you forget that people might just be doing things for fun, and start ranting about objectives.
Also, no griefing in EVE.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2015.01.09 20:39:58 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? You are not safe doing anything anywhere
Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2190
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Posted - 2015.01.09 20:48:29 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics.
We're not the only people who gank. You're not 100% safe in a 1.0 using that fit, though it's *highly* unlikely you'll be ganked.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7257
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Posted - 2015.01.09 20:51:16 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? You are not safe doing anything anywhere Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics.
Yeah, cos CODE are the only threat in the universe.
BTW Marge, Im being sarcastic.
If you think 100% safety exists anywhere, you dont know what game you are playing.
Also... if thats all you put on your skiffs, you arent paranoid enough.
"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway
*"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..."* - Chane Morgann
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:33:34 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? You are not safe doing anything anywhere Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics. Yeah, cos CODE are the only threat in the universe. BTW Marge, Im being sarcastic. If you think 100% safety exists anywhere, you dont know what game you are playing. Also... if thats all you put on your skiffs, you arent paranoid enough. Demerius Xenocratus wrote: Wrong..... unless you .... fit extremely expensive storyline modules.
Oh look, you actually say you are wrong in your answer Its ok I forgive you
People don't actually do that...do they? My point is that you can be 100% safe in highsec if you aren't a complete dumb.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:37:08 -
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admiral root wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics. We're not the only people who gank. You're not 100% safe in a 1.0 using that fit, though it's *highly* unlikely you'll be ganked.
Be honest though you guys are responsible for most of the ganking and you or anybody else is not going to touch a skiff unless it has zero tank or they've got super shiny things fitted. A t2 fit skiff with a DCU in 0.6+ is not going to be touched unless the pilot is specially despised.
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Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
111
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Posted - 2015.01.10 12:18:50 -
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idealy you should tank your miner, so it takes as lots of gankers to kill you, the more the better. When you know the right peeps you can sell the killrights and make nice profits
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