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Liner Xiandra Sparks Inc 332	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:41:57 - [31] - Quote Fitting Management: - Buy the entire ship + fitting from the markethub, using a similar window to the multiple sell. - Cargohold to be saved to a fitting (nanite paste, other ammo types, exotic dancers) Fitting Window: - Compare multiple fits to each other, either by having us open the window for multiple shipfits currently not active; or some seperate compare panel. - Time to align shown - Grouping weapons - more distinct way of unloading ammo. I'm often unequipping the module itself. - Splitting drone damage per drone type - Show AB / MWD + overheat speeds in the navigation box - Show damage + overheat damage in the damage box
Mitchan Kandoli Geschnitten Brot 0	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:42:44 - [32] - Quote Nors Phlebas Sabelhpsron wrote: Why are you spending Dev time on functionality that we already have multiple, perfectly adequate tools for? Because basic features in EVE client should be useful and working, covering the day-to-day needs. Extra-special features can be left for 3rd party tools. @feedback Create a list view for fitting modules, instead of (at least for me) intransparent graphical module icons. Mass fitting functionality comparable to the industry mass production thingy. Fitting browser with rating functionality corp / alliance / global (maybe integrate battleclinic for global scope?). Fitting simulator: Add modules with search function in auto-complete list (type just some characters, get all meta versions for this type). Fitting simulator: Show all missing skills for draft fittings. Fitting simulator: browse modules basing on effects (e.g. for more damage: turrets, modules, rigs). Besides that: great idea to finally touch that area! yay
Two step Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred 4842	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:43:29 - [33] - Quote IMHO, more than just improving the fitting window, I would love to see a way to switch active fittings in space (via SMA or mobile depot) without having to drag modules to cargo and vice versa. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
Nomistrav Aliastra Gallente Federation 278	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:44:22 - [34] - Quote I'd like to see what the DPS/Range/Tracking stats are on an ammo type without having to load/unload the ammo into the turrets all the time. Third Place Winner Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
Nors Phlebas Sabelhpsron The Red Circle Inc. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 69	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:46:22 - [35] - Quote Mitchan Kandoli wrote: Create a list view for fitting modules, instead of (at least for me) intransparent graphical module icons. Mass fitting functionality comparable to the industry mass production thingy. Fitting simulator: Add modules with search function in auto-complete list (type just some characters, get all meta versions for this type). Fitting simulator: browse modules basing on effects (e.g. for more damage: turrets, modules, rigs). * These changes I would totally get behind.
Liner Xiandra Sparks Inc 333	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:49:52 - [36] - Quote FleetUp.com uses a very nice 'effectiveness' rating for a ship fitting. Calculating and showing a pilots skills/mastery for a certain fit would be a nice addition, highlighting where you have room to improve your skills
Drackarn Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 54	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:50:45 - [37] - Quote 1. Filling guns or launchers by dropping an entire stack would be great. Destroyers are a pain ;) 2. Buy this fit from the market at the lowest price button. 3. However if you can make a button that says "Take this fit and fit me X more of these ships just like this one, everything is in the hangar, off you go Mr Client" I will get down on my knees and worship the ground you stand on at Fanfest /goes back to fitting the same Tristan over and over and over again http://sandciderandspaceships.blogspot.com/
Dunamis55 Pink Fluffy Bunny Slippers Northern Associates. 0	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:52:41 - [38] - Quote For me, I'd like to be able to see, in order of importance: Align time, in seconds - The amount of time it takes to go from being stationary to entering warp. Drone control range Ore / Ice yield - I know that you can already see a yield in the module, but EFT currently goes one step further and changes the ship's DPS stat into a Yield stat for ships fitted with mining modules. This would be nice to have on the fitting screen too (maybe it could work a similar way?). A "try before you buy" mechanic would be enormously useful to me too.
Debora Tsung Die Woge des Wahnsinns Ultima Ratio. 1396	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:52:45 - [39] - Quote Nors Phlebas Sabelhpsron wrote: Why are you spending Dev time on functionality that we already have multiple, perfectly adequate tools for? Please spend dev time fixing problems the player base has not already independently fixed - there are far more effective ways for you to use their valuable time than making your own version of EFT. Why are you spending time on nagging about awesome stuff when you could blow up ships? Stupidity should be a bannable offense. Also This --> AFK Cloaking Collection Thread Please stop making "fix afk cloaking!" threads, your idea is not new. Thanks in advance.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 172	Posted - 2015.01.05 12:55:14 - [40] - Quote CCP Tuxford wrote: THIS IS THE GREATEST THREAD IN THE WORLD!!!!! No, this is but a tribute. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Edward Olmops DUST Expeditionary Team 236	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:00:30 - [41] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: Do you want my first born, because this is how you get my first born. Dude. Learn to take responsibility. You cannot just give away your kid, because you now prefer to play with a fitting window! That's the meaning of "commitment"!
Edward Olmops DUST Expeditionary Team 236	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:14:46 - [42] - Quote Fitting window: Presumably easy to fix and very annoying at the moment: whenever I try to move a limited item around (turret weapon, Damage Control etc.) I get an error message stating that I cannot fit more than X of that module - despite I was just dragging it to another slot (optimizing for overheat spread). I have to unfit it and refit. When I browse Fittings... why do I have to search through the whole tree all the time? I will usually want a fitting for the hull I am sitting in order to (guess what!) fit that ship. Only in rare cases I might just want to look at (other) fittings. Ok, this might change a bit when the Fitting Window becomes more EFT-like, but there should be a quick way to find only the Fittings for the hull on which the fitting window was invoked.
Mornak Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE 30	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:20:53 - [43] - Quote happy new year! most of things that come to mind have already been posted. Please make sure to allow us to "over-fit" in respect to CPU/PG with a 1%, 3%, ..., indication to what implant we would need to make this fit possible (like it's done in EFT). A "nice to have" would be the ability to test our cap against enemy neuts/nos and so on (to not make things too complicated, maybe just assume "meta 4" and "skill level IV" on a unbonused hull for them). This would also be nice for TP, web, TD and so on... with selectable scripts. Again, this is not important, but would be a "nice to have" especially for new players who lack experience/"gut feeling".
Yugo Reventlov Keeping Up Appearances 23	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:25:23 - [44] - Quote "Preview future lossmail"
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 961	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:31:30 - [45] - Quote how about fix the 'effective hitpoints' thing so it uses omni damage rather than lowest resist, since that's what everyone in the game uses. whenever someone asks why the fitting window has different ehp to what eft or pyfa tells them, the answer is always 'because the fitting window does it wrong'.
Gilbaron Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 1598	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:33:26 - [46] - Quote a buy hull and fitting button would be awesome we already have multisell, time to give us multibuy Build your empire ! Rent Space in Feythabolis and Omist Contact me for details :)
Catherine Laartii Dominion Fleet Group Templis CALSF 459	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:42:18 - [47] - Quote CCP Sharq wrote: Happy new year pilots! CCP karkur and I, under adult supervision from CCP Tuxford have been experimenting with improving the EVE fitting experience. The fitting window hasn't gotten much love since Apocrypha and we really want to address that and make it a powerful and fun tool, move it a bit closer to 3rd party programs like EFT and Pyfa. We have been looking into features like: Allowing pilots to try in the fitting window modules and rigs they own or don't, to see what effect they have before committing. Try before you buy Simulating active and overload states of modules, docked or in space. No need to leave the station to see what your hardeners can do. More accurate and rich information on attributes in the fitting window. There are a ton of ideas floating around that could be added to the list, but what would you be interested in seeing that would improve your fitting experience? Fly safe! Would it be possible to have an in-game fitting tool? I spend a lot of time on browser-based fitting tools like null-sec.com and o.smium, and having one directly integrated into the game, or at the very least having the decrepit eve browser updated to run flash and whatever else it needs to come into the new decade.
Bam Stroker Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion 271	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:42:59 - [48] - Quote Let us open ship fittings in a market window similar to the multi-sell so we can buy hulls and fittings in batches at market hubs with the requisite warnings about "Module X is 25% above market average" warnings in some prominent colour. Is that a fitting experience related thing? AUTZ best TZ

CCP Sharq C C P C C P Alliance 62	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:46:51 - [49] - Quote Thanks for the replies. Loads of interesting ideas. Taking notes as fast as I can! Keep 'em coming! CCP Sharq \| Team Five-0

Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 270	Posted - 2015.01.05 13:58:20 - [50] - Quote Awesome idea!! I've always thought the ingame fitting window should provide an experience closer to that of 3rd party fitting tools. This is great! =D
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 962	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:01:09 - [51] - Quote I'm pretty sure using the 'fit to ship' thing doesn't clear out bays beforehand. so what I'm getting at is if I hand out 20 ships, then take them on a roam, during which a bunch of them get loot in the cargo and lose a bunch of ammo, it would be great if I could press a button to remove things that aren't part of the fit (loot) and add things that are missing (the ammo that got used). ideally I'd be able to do this to lots of ships at once, and without having to get inside each one and then kill myself because it takes so long. I've got something like 200 fitted ships in my hangar, and it takes forever to do anything with them. it'd probably make the server happy if I didn't have to get in and out of them all the time just to do menial stuff I don't even want to be doing. here are a couple of tangent things that are huge and related to fitting ships and stuff: being able to assemble and fit lots of ships at once, some sort of automatic module repairer/repackager/stacker (yes, make it do stuff in cans and cargo bays as well), and the ability to tag or label particular modules, as a replacement for silly can systems - cans are the worst. I'm going to rant about the inventory instead, because it's more important than the fitting window. here's a thing I have to do all the time: 1. clear out my main hangar so I can put stuff in it without it getting mixed up 2. select all from inside a particular can that has gotten too messy 3. drag it into the main hangar 4. select the cans and invert select to get the stuff I just dragged 5. repackage the stuff I selected 6. select it all again 7. stack it 8. select it again 9. put it back in the can and everyone else seems to think this is fine, for some reason. just kill me, I hate everything.
Makari Aeron The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium 172	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:10:11 - [52] - Quote 1. Be able to toggle individual active modules pseudo-on and pseudo-off for resistance, tracking, and power consumption. I'm not going to have my smartbomb on 23/7 when ratting or in PvP. I don't care how much power it drains. Same with MWDs, etc on big ships 2. The ability to see the price of the module in the region I'm in OR by region (ie: Jita or Amarr prices) since it's all a CREST dump now 3. The ability to adjust what type of damage I will be facing to adequately judge tank in PvE (specfic) or PvP/Sleepers/Incursions (omni) 4. The ability to see how much you will mine and your cycle time 5. the ability to choose which drones count towards your DPS. CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty. CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
mynnna GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3856	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:10:33 - [53] - Quote Scrap the idea and give us multifit & ability to include an arbitrary set of modules in cargo instead. (I'm actually serious here despite the winking...) Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno. 4248	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:10:39 - [54] - Quote fitting window is big and can't be resized which can make life difficult on smaller screens (laptop) for example trying to mouse over an item in the inventory window to preview fitting cost on the fitting window requires both inventory and fitting windows to be open and uncovered at the same time effective hit points estimate is currently based on the lowest single damage type. i'd like to be able to estimate ehp based on selectable damage type, by ammunition type or by all damage types at once when a module is moused over, icons appear. they're small buggers and they're hard to click on. two 'show info' and two 'unfit' buttons appear. one of each for loaded ammo, one of each for the module. it's not clear which is which until the tooltips appear
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM 4640	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:16:29 - [55] - Quote A popup window next to the modules, allowing for: changing the meta type of a module: So if you have a T1 200mm AC, you can adjust to any of the meta levels, the T2, and so on. (with a 'replace all' option) Chage the module: so you can shift to another module in the same market group, at the same meta level (with a replace all option.) For going from a 200mm AC, to a 180mm AC. Woo! CSM 9! Fuzzwork Enterprises Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
tgl3 Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms 529	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:17:08 - [56] - Quote A button/option to strip all guns/ammo/high/medium or low slots! Twitter - TG_3 Ex EVE Blogger - still available at Through Newb Eyes
Altirius Saldiaro Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:21:59 - [57] - Quote I want an average ship cost + fitting cost shown on the fitting window, like on Pyfa
Mornak Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE 30	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:27:59 - [58] - Quote not sure if this is the correct thread... but "while you're at it", could we have a "open in fitting widow" option on contracts? ..if possible for every assembled ship in the contract? that would help a lot.
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 963	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:28:20 - [59] - Quote they could have it 'suggest' possible modules, tie into the ship traits somehow - there's stuff you're inevitably going to always want unless you're flying a shitfit. so if I'm fitting a cruiser, something easy happens that lets me pick a 10mn propulsion mod in my first midslot, instead of me having to click around in a bunch of cans and type in search windows. or if I'm fitting a rifter, it's 'small', it's 'armor', and it's 'projectile turrets'. it's going to want some 3 of some kind of small projectile turret, a frigate propulsion mod, two tackle/ewar mods and probably some kind of armour tank stuff and/or turret upgrades that work on projectiles. these are sets of modules it could automatically figure out and bring up, either limited by what's in my hangar, what's on the market or not limited at all. not so it fits things for me, I just mean so I can get to stuff easier instead of getting hand cancer.
Greygal Redemption Road Affirmative. 306	Posted - 2015.01.05 14:28:39 - [60] - Quote 1A. Auto-rename ships the name of the saved fitting you are fitting from. 1B. Or select numerous ships and rename all selected. 2. Fit X number of ships. 3. Tangentially related to fitting ships, the ability to right-click a stack of ships and assemble the entire stack. For example, right click, "Assemble Ship" assembles one, right click, "Assemble stack" assembles the entire stack. 4. Most everything already said in this thread :) 5. Alliance saved fittings. What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. Free weekly public roams & monthly NewBro new player roams! Visit Redemption Road or join mailing list REDEMPTION ROAMS for information

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