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Valeri Greon
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.30 19:12:00 -
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Since the forum has no really usable search function, I'll just ignore the possibility that this has been suggested here before.
The UI needs a better and bigger font. On my screen resolution the contrast, font and its size makes the text very hard to read even at 12 expanded. And since I have a flat screen with high native resolution (1280x1024), I'd rather not drop it just to get bigger fonts. The UI graphics eat enough screen space as it is.
Font sizes up to at least 16 would be nice - and should be relatively easy to do, seeing as the chat font is able to handle bigger sizes.
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LemonyLIme
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Posted - 2008.03.30 19:47:00 -
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So far the UI seems to be ok for me. But I definately support an update.
The biggest concern I have is poorly worded questions, such as when I first got jump clones, I tried to jump to one I had in the same station, the warning message didnt make very much sense but it seemed like it said it was just going to remove the clone I was jumping from. That makes sense right? Well oddly enough it removes the clone I was jumping to and I lost all my implants  . That kind of stuff just isn't acceptable imo.
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.03.30 22:27:00 -
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So let me get this straight, there is a hotkey for drones to aggress & return but no launch hotkey? I feel like I'm tripping on acid here.
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Aloriana Jacques
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.30 22:52:00 -
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As a player coming from games such as World of Warcraft, the UI needs a LOT of work. It might have been decent years ago, but it's time to get with the times.
I agree to all of the above listed ideas of the original poster.
Regards.
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Mr'Pink
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Posted - 2008.03.31 12:22:00 -
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As a player coming from WoW I'm really trying to get into Eve, but the UI is absolutely terrible. I run on a 19" flat panel with 1280x1024 resolution and I feel like I'm running at 800x600. It just feels cramped to me when I have all of my needed dialog windows open. I like seeing the game I'm playing too.
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Cyxopyc
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Posted - 2008.03.31 12:24:00 -
[306]
 Originally by: Commoner
I wonder if CCP employs usability engineering in their practice?
Come on now. Don't try to be funny. 
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As I've said before EVE could use a new UI because I'm guessing the current one won't support many of the improvements we would like to see. It seems to rely on some directx libraries or something which have limits, especially for such a complex game. I would also guess a new UI is out of the question.
So, is anyone interested in looking through these 11+ pages and organizing a list from the replies? What stuff that could be done to the current UI? Maybe list the easiest to implement first? Maybe someday I'll do it of no one else does.
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Xaen
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Posted - 2008.03.31 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony
So let me get this straight, there is a hotkey for drones to aggress & return but no launch hotkey? I feel like I'm tripping on acid here.
The problem - that apparently the devs responsible for the drone UI changes were unable to overcome - is that many ships can hold more drones than they can launch at one time.
Launch Drones...which drones?
They could have easily solved this with drone groups...you know unit grouping circa 1995 in Command & Conquer.
Being more years behind the times than your game has been around is pretty awful.
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Xaen
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Posted - 2008.03.31 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cyxopyc
I'm guessing the current one won't support many of the improvements we would like to see.
OMG, don't give them more excuses!
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Lektarr
HeXstoof
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Posted - 2008.03.31 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mr'Pink
As a player coming from WoW I'm really trying to get into Eve, but the UI is absolutely terrible. I run on a 19" flat panel with 1280x1024 resolution and I feel like I'm running at 800x600. It just feels cramped to me when I have all of my needed dialog windows open. I like seeing the game I'm playing too.
I agree with this guy!
I used to play WoW way too much before turning to EVE, and the only thing that was better in WoW was the UI, but sadly it was WAY better. I think that the main difference between the WoW and the EVE UI is that blizzard allows players to produce UI mods and GREATLY improve the UI through AddOns - and I must say that without these AddOns WoW would probably have been just as bad as EVE (UI wise)
So in short my suggestion would be to let all the keen programmers in the player heard get a go at producing their own AddOns for our precious game, and the world would be a better place! :)
Not only would it take some strain of the dev team, it would also give all players the freedom to choose whatever they like best instead of just being stuck with what CCP thinks is a good idea.
I know that this will give some issues with exploits and stuff like that in the start, but blizzard succeeded in using this method, and i am sure CCP can do it too! there were different AddOns for WoW that showed stuff blizzard didn't want them to show, but they fixed it pretty fast and now AddOns for WoW are just 100% win!
//Lektarr
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Shakuul
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Posted - 2008.04.01 20:34:00 -
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signed
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Ryzolette
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Posted - 2008.04.02 00:54:00 -
[311]
/signed and sigged
Can't seem to get the large text working though, size tags aren't doing anything...
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Valeri Greon
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:39:00 -
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Some limited moddability would be great as long as it'd be really tested against abuse.
So, this was basically just a bump with an excuse...
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Msgerbs
White Moon Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.05 00:25:00 -
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/sign
I so definitely agree. As a drone boat pilot it's a MAJOR pain in the ass to have to right click a bazillion times for 1 simple thing: "GO MY MINIONS!" How about me being able to simply hit a key to launch the correct group, hit a key to lock, hit a key to attack. That would be so much easier.
And how about throwing in a function that will AUTOMATICALLY open the drone groups when they are deployed rather than me having to open up 2 or 3 tabs just to see what my droens are doing.
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Valeri Greon
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.04.11 21:19:00 -
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/bump
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ramzahn
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.12 12:37:00 -
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I only want the ability to *unlock* as easy as i do lock, nothing more.
Why not unlock by using Ctrl+[L-Click] a second time. Or maybe Ctrl+[R-Click].
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Cyxopyc
Wolfram Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:06:00 -
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/bumpy
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2008.04.18 22:26:00 -
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Is anyone at CCP listening here?
Seriously guys, I am a die-hard fan. Eve keeps me coming back time and again, paying my subscriptions for the content and context that you have executed so brilliantly.
But the UI still gives me the same damn ball-ache it did when I first started playing.
Why is a crappy game like WoW so much more advanced in presenting a user friendly gaming experience?
You guys rock but mouse-dependence sucks more than I can articulate. So sad that Eve is still stuck in the 90's as it approaches it's 5th birthday. 
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Valeri Greon
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.04.21 15:13:00 -
[318]
It seems it's time to bump this again... And fervently hope that devs take notice and actually DO something about this.
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Tamoko
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Posted - 2008.04.30 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
You guys rock but mouse-dependence sucks more than I can articulate. So sad that Eve is still stuck in the 90's as it approaches it's 5th birthday.
For real. CCP, please, fix the UI.
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Dorisane
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:13:00 -
[320]
bump, cos the UI *sucks* a fat one.
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Xiu Dan
Gallente
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:23:00 -
[321]
/signed
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Shryjun
Red Sun Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.02 10:18:00 -
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It is indeed frustrating to be so mouse-dependant. Let us use our nber micro. More hotkeys, please. |
Khapeta
Comando Vermelho
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:11:00 -
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Signed. |
Ender Wiggan
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Posted - 2008.05.11 07:52:00 -
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/Signed
A word from the dev's please you guys have got to be following this. I'm really praying that you've been taking notes on all that has been said in this thread and empyrean age will be the golden age for the Eve UI.
I agree with allowing users to create custom UI's, if WoW can figure out how to get it done with out getting hacked to **** too badly I'm sure you guys can as well. I'm not fussed though as long as you make all aspects of the UI allowed to be moved by the User and all actions allowed to be assigned a hot key.
Make chat push to talk then we can use the whole keyboard as our playground.
Please dear god change the UI before I get RSI from right clicking.
Ender
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.05.12 12:58:00 -
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its ok gaise t20 is on teh case
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deepb
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Posted - 2008.05.14 03:15:00 -
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I think CCP needs to hire an experienced UI designer. The UI lacks common "UI Design 101" conventions -- like bolding the double-click action in the right-click menu.
It seems like I'm finding new UI annoyances every day, when it should really be the other way around (i.e., finding little gems left by the UI designers to improve the end-user experience).
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spudzonatron
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Posted - 2008.05.15 01:04:00 -
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/signed
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Madra d'Arc
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.05.15 10:10:00 -
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Xaen just said in the original post what I've been thinking myself. I am not a mouse-clicker!!!!! Mouse-clickers are noobs! They play their games at like half the speed of a keyboard user. I assign hotkeys, as many as I can, and also mousebuttons. I do not click on something unless I have to.
Your UI would virtually be SAVED if you fixed hotkeys, like first make a chat prompt, and then let us hotkeyers run free. WILD AND FREE. The efficiency this would CREATE is just staggering to think about.
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Grojar Flesp
Gallente
SQS Group
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Posted - 2008.05.15 12:50:00 -
[329]
/signed
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Kethry Avenger
Angel Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.15 19:34:00 -
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Ok so I've skimmed this thread a couple times now, and it seems the biggest issue with hotkeys and generally a more easy to use interface is macroers. Specifically macro miners and mission runners.
What I just though realized is that I don't see how adding more functionality for everyone make this problem any worse. The people using this system to personal advantage I have no problem with. The problem I have is with the RMT and its effects on eve. And that is going to be a problem no matter what in game mechanics are there since most of that happens outside of any control CCP has. So not adding functions to help all users just because a few j**** are there doesn't make sense to me.
So signed and give us more hotkeys and options.
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