• • Customizable "reorganize" hotkey (function/ability). I'm so tired of:
    
  • Select all (but station containers)
  • Right click.
  • Repackage.
  • Right click.
  • Stack all.
  • Right click.
  • Sort by type.
  
  I do this sequence constantly.


• Target a selected thing


• Untarget a selected thing


• Open/close a selected loot can


• Accelerate/Deccelerate


• Sic deployed drones on target.


• Approach target


• Orbit at default/user specified range


• Maintain default/user specified range


• Launch drone group N. (Assign a group to a selection of drones and save it based on the drone type, not the specific instances of drones in the bay - so if my drones get wasted I can just drop more of the same type in and it resumes working)


• Recall all deployed drones to orbit (recall a specified group) For example: ctrl+shift+1 selects drone group 1, ctrl+shift+r recalls them to orbit/bay. I can imagine this being of incredible value to carriers.

[*]Recall all drones to bay (irrespective of distance from ship i.e. fix the scoop/return to problem)

Originally by: 0rlin

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More hot keys sounds great. However we have enough problems with the macro users now. Sorry to say it but I dont see many more hot keys being added. :(

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Originally by: JP Beauregard

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The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....

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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker

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an idea for warp jamming could be have the WCS icon on the HUD, a ship with no WCS would have a zero by that icon. if 1 point of scram was applied it would show a -1. however if you say had 1 WCS and got 1 scrammed it would show zero. 2 scrammed it would show -1 or however badly scrammed you are. then to push it even better clicking the icon would bring up a list of who was scramming you(clearly killing the scrammers is more important unless they are doing crappy damage).

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Originally by: svarta

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One other gripe is copying bookmarks, shift dragging them out of people and places doesn't seem to work very well, I can only drag accross a few at a time instead of doing them all in a oner. I'm a little baffled as to why its so slow? but maybe thats a server issue. Still the UI should recognize that I want to copy them all and queue up its requests to the server if need be.

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Originally by: svarta

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Generally, I think the UI needs a little more asynchronicity in its communication with the server. For example, I warp to a gate in low sec, someone is there so I open their info tab to check them out, or maybe just happen to be trying to open the market or somewthing. The UI freezes at this point waiting for the server response, meanwhile they pod me. The request to the server should be asynchronous, the UI remaining live and unfrozen and brought up to date when the reply comes.

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Originally by: svarta

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I know this sort of thing can be done and handled slickly because I've done a fair amount of this kind of optimization with UI's myself. Its similar to how AJAX is making web interfaces more slick. Of course, it isn't easy.

Nobody should be killed because their UI froze. If the server is lagging presumably at least the attacker is at a similar disadvantage. Hope someone is listening...

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Originally by: Xaen

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I agree completely, but what I think you mean is they need to have the UI running in a separate thread so that the UI doesn't have to wait on things with slow responses.

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Originally by: svarta

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Can't be too hard on CCP though, keeping the whole game world in synch accross many clients is a damned impressive feat IMHO. No idea how introducing background communication threads for the UI windows might interplay with that. For example, maybe the freezing is actually due to the client/server conversation for the 3d/combat/game world synch being interupted by a large chunk of market data coming over the wire? Or maybe background threads for that really would prevent the freezing. Only those that really understand the code can say...

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if (needToGetDataFromServer) {
 // spawn new thread (or reuse)
 // show busy status in gui window
 if (dataNotAvailableYet) {
 // continue UI processing
 } else {
 // display new data
 }
}

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Drawing the UI itself is by far the slowest part of the client. If I hide all windows my framerate goes through the roof. Kinda sad really.

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Originally by: Erotic Irony

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Drawing the UI itself is by far the slowest part of the client. If I hide all windows my framerate goes through the roof. Kinda sad really.

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As I'm away from my home PC I'm interested whether you can replicate this effect by turning translucency all the way up? Are their any other work-arounds to compensate for some of the frames lost because of the UI?

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Originally by: Acerus Malum

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The problem with good ideas is that you typically don't post in threads unless you have something to add or complain about. So your great thread ultimately drowns in a flood of flames/corrections directed at crappy threads.

But yes the UI is definitely the most pressing issue the game currently faces. When my laptop can run Half-Life 2 better than the inside of a station and miscellaneous windows there's clearly a problem.

If I had to pick one particular UI problem out of them all, I'd say the worst is how stray keystrokes end up in channel text boxes, even if they aren't visible at all. Whenever I do repeat calculations in the in-game calculator, at some point the calculator will lose focus for no reason and all my calculations go to some chat channel buried under a half dozen tabs.

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Originally by: Skawl

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All great ideas, would love to see even some inplemented.

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Originally by: DeckardIRL

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Good Post,

Hope they ALL get implemented

/signed

Deck

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Originally by: DeckardIRL

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Bump0rZ

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Originally by: DeckardIRL

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Bump0rZ

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Originally by: Nariana Verex

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More/better hotkeys, individual module behavior modifications. All great ideas.

Clap this in with that hyperthreading idea I read here also, and give me a modular UI and I think EVE would quickly become a much funner game to play.

We'd play the game instead of playing -against- it.

/Signed

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Nariana Verex

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More/better hotkeys, individual module behavior modifications. All great ideas.

Clap this in with that hyperthreading idea I read here also, and give me a modular UI and I think EVE would quickly become a much funner game to play.

We'd play the game instead of playing -against- it.

/Signed

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hyperthreading? You mean have the UI drawing on its own thread separate from the server communications thread? Like #2 in my 2nd post in this thread?

btw hyperthreading is just a propietary intel technique. All EVE needs is plain old threading.

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Originally by: Victor Valka

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What the skull-chick said.

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Originally by: Apocryphai

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Er... ok, we seem to already BE in the suggestions forum! S'trange, I could have sworn this was in General.... I'm going senile

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Originally by: Smagd

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This thread needs a lot more attention.

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Originally by: Riven Starkill

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This idea is SO /signed

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Riven Starkill

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This idea is SO /signed

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I appreciate your agreement, but do you have anything else to add?

Look at it from CCP's perspective. One person suggests something and an underwhelming number of people reply with /signed. Another game company once told their forum users that /signed didn't carry much weight with them. I have to imagine it doesn't impress CCP very much either. I think they said something like, "A well thought out, articulate post carries much more weight than /signed".

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Originally by: Nariana Verex

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Riven Starkill

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This idea is SO /signed

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I appreciate your agreement, but do you have anything else to add?

Look at it from CCP's perspective. One person suggests something and an underwhelming number of people reply with /signed. Another game company once told their forum users that /signed didn't carry much weight with them. I have to imagine it doesn't impress CCP very much either. I think they said something like, "A well thought out, articulate post carries much more weight than /signed".

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But when you hit all the nails square on the head, Xaen, if we DON'T /signed it, you'll vanish under a wave of bumps.

And what looks nicer? Ten people agreeing with you, or the same person bumping the thread?

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Nariana Verex

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Riven Starkill

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This idea is SO /signed

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I appreciate your agreement, but do you have anything else to add?

Look at it from CCP's perspective. One person suggests something and an underwhelming number of people reply with /signed. Another game company once told their forum users that /signed didn't carry much weight with them. I have to imagine it doesn't impress CCP very much either. I think they said something like, "A well thought out, articulate post carries much more weight than /signed".

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But when you hit all the nails square on the head, Xaen, if we DON'T /signed it, you'll vanish under a wave of bumps.

And what looks nicer? Ten people agreeing with you, or the same person bumping the thread?

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Ten people bumping the thread.

I wasn't disparaging your (appreciated support), I just think they would lend more weight to ten thorough posts than 50 /signs.

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Originally by: Riffix

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More UI ideas coming later but for now I'll say that I agree there is a TON of info the player does not see readily that should be fixed.

Some examples:
-who is performing EW on you at what type
-what type of damage is being done to you
-what target your drone is currently engaged with
-what your ship is doing (ex: Keeping Player X at range 40k)
-where a module is in it's cycle (a little light or notch that moves clockwise around the circular module icon could fix this)

I am a bit on the fence about whether the modal windows should go but I think that the UI needs to pick a side and stick with it. Either the entire UI should be movable and customizable (ALL of it including the NEOCOM buttons, overview, and HP wheel-thing) or the UI devs need to decide on a layout that they like where everything has a specific place (like an RTS UI.)

I think right-click context menus in a game are pure evil.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!

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Originally by: Caedicus

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Yes!!!!

I definately want more hotkeys.

I definately want a better combat log that's seperate from the other logs. It should be customizable, AND it should always record every battle regardless if it's open or not.

I know this is very cliche, but there should be numbers of the damage you do to an enemy that pop up over the ships icon in your target list(or even on the ship itself). Make it so we can turn it off if we want.

And we need a status bar that lets us know what type of EW is being used upon us.

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Originally by: Taedrin

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/signed

IMO, the most pressing issue that needs to be addressed is making it so that the UI doesn't lock up whenever you buy an item, click a tab, open a window, or get locked by the entire room that you just aggrod.

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Originally by: Taedrin

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On top of this, I would like to see improvements to the combat log. Allow us to filter out unwanted messages, such as when you miss, or near miss. Allow us to create multiple windows for combat logs so that we can have organize the vast amount of information that flows in. Allow us to create one window that displays only wrecking hits, another window that shows only *your* hits against others, and another window that shows you taking damage. Something to that degree. That way you can easily tell how much damage you are doing with a quick glance. No more staring at the combat notifications in the middle of the screen and hoping that your 7 hit messages aren't blotted out by a single miss message.

Another improvement I would like, is to allow people to create plug-ins for their UI. Not anything major, just make it so that players can process and display information. Things like log parsers which can then use their information to display average DPS, a better warp scrambling notification, a collection of effects currently being used on you (positive and negative). Things of that nature.

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Originally by: Xaen

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What we're looking for, CCP is the ability to customize our UI however we please, much like another popular MMO.

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Originally by: Taedrin

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I don't want an EVE version of CTmod. Just the ability to read data, process data, and display data.

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if (needToGetDataFromServer) {
 // spawn new thread (or reuse)
 // show busy status in gui window
 if (dataNotAvailableYet) {
 // continue UI processing
 } else {
 // display new data
 }
}

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Originally by: Seruph

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Edited by: Seruph on 14/02/2007 03:29:51
My only problems with the EVE UI are the following:

1. The overview "modules" (Targets, Drones, Gang, Etc.) are attached to one overview and can only be moved up and down. If you have 30 hostiles, 15 drones, and 20 in your gang, you can't see everything. What I would like, is for those specific pieces to be detachable and positionable like everything else on screen. You would need to be able to snap the overview together and lock pieces in place so you don't accidentally move it, but the requirement that the overview space be limited to monitor height makes it harder to use.

2. Multiple chat windows. This is actually a problem where I agree the WoW UI is better. Their approach is to have chat rooms be placeable in any window and color the chat based on the channel. I would like to be able to be able to place all of the channels, or some of the channels, into one window so I could have something like:

Window #1
Gang:Bob> Hi
Squad:Bill> Hello

Window #2
Alliance: Bob> Bleh
Corp: Bill> More chat.

Window #3
Local:Bob> OMG Newbs

And so on. I'm not sure how you would deal with the player list of the different channels, maybe optionally disabling it per channel? Detaching it? I think that this would remove a lot of the clutter. This may just be a personal preference but I like to be able to read any chat window at a glance so 75% of my screen space is nothing more than chat windows.

3. Moveable control panel. I'm sure it was said before, but it would be nice if we could move the various pieces of the main control console around somehow. This would make the multiple monitor people stop complaining at least about that.

4. Ethereal Windows. I know that right now, you can clip a window to the screen and it turns very transparent and can not moved. The problem is, you can still click on window elements. I would like a way to snap a window so that it can not be clicked on without a modifier key. Think, combat log. Maybe stick it somewhere on the screen, set its alpha to 25% and you don't really lose that screen space.

5. Browser memory limit or something. If you accidentally try to load a page thats several KB in size in the IGB, it locks up your whole UI.

And now here are some wishes that may be difficult to implement but I would love to see sometime in the future if at all possible.

1. Threaded UI. I'd like for the entire thing to be in another thread so it doesn't lock up the whole game. It would be even nicer if portions of it could be in another thread so searching on the market doesn't lock up chat, and so on.

2. Look Towards. I know there are "advanced camera controls" but I would like something that simply spins my camera towards an object without locking it on that object. For example, when aligning to a stargate, part of the fun is looking for the stargate somewhere in space. It would be nice to be able to look towards an object so its at the center of your screen, but then allowing you to move your camera like normal.

3. More hotkeys! I am hotkey crazy and only click if I have to. Next/Previous Target, Launch Drones, Recall Drones, Drones Attack, Select Previous/Next object on overview, Lock Selected Target, etc.

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Originally by: Darksaber64x

But the whole "Mods turning off at a certain %" may be a bit much. I'd love this to be honest, but it would make it too easy.

But on a similar note:

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were flying around in 100mill isk spaceships a few thousand yerars into teh future soooo ya

Originally by: Sharkbait

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what queue are you stuck in. logging into the character selection page, logging into game, or jumping somewhere?

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Channels[Local].onChange() = function () 
{ 
 foreach( Channels[Local].getCharacters() as char ) 
 { 
 if( char.standing <= 0 )
 WarpTo( POS );
 }
}

Originally by: Seruph

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This game would be far too easy to automate since most things happen for you anyway. A customizable UI would make things horribly unbalanced. Imagine a simple UI mod that makes a noise when local changes. Pirates would scream bloody murder. Take that a step further:

Channels[Local].onChange() = function () 
{ 
 foreach( Channels[Local].getCharacters() as char ) 
 { 
 if( char.standing <= 0 )
 WarpTo( POS );
 }
}

Oh god no.

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Originally by: Umiji

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I would pay a higher subscription fee for more hotkeys... Specifically for selecting, targeting, and drone management. I'd also pay extra to change the font sizes.

Also, why do we have to upgrade our clones? Do the devs envision a scenario where a player would CHOOSE to lose all or some of their skill points? It's just a timebomb waiting to happen. You remember to upgrade 99 out of 100 times, but that one time you forget, you're done. Losing ships and implants is punishment enough for accidentally wandering through a camped gate. Why force us to remember to upgrade every time? What was the intention on that?

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Originally by: Daniel Lentz

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5. Provide range information for missiles (without assumptions made for movement) similar to what you get for guns. (shaded overlay showing extent of range etc.) Consistency.

6. Provide range information for drones similar to #5. Again consistency.

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Originally by: JP Beauregard

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The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Riven Starkill

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This idea is SO /signed

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I appreciate your agreement, but do you have anything else to add?

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Originally by: Riven Starkill

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Changes to the icons used in overview û make them useful

I look at the overview every day I play and I still cannot tell the difference between an interceptor and a frigate by looking at the icon.

Anyways, I thought that this didn't make sense, since we are flying ships that far surpass our own RL technology, and the HUD that our ship computer provides us with is far too simplistic.

I have a proposal for some new icons that display both the ship class AND the race of the ship on your overview display.



I apologize for the design, I am not a graphic artist.

Basically, the overview would color code the ships by race.
Caldari = blue,
Minmatar = orange,
Amarr = yellow,
Gallente = green.

The ship class would be changed by shape and size.

Frigates = small box,
Destroyers = small rectangle,
Cruisers = medium box,
Battlecruisers = medium rectangle,
Battleships.... you get the idea.

T2 ships would be identified by the placement of a small white tab, cross or box in the icon.

The placement of the white tab would identify the specific type of ship.

For example: A Caldari interceptor would be use a frigate-sized small blue box with a white tab in the top right corner. A Gallente assault frigate would use a small green box with the white tab in the top left corner. So the placement of the white corner determines the sub-type of ship.

Interceptors = top right,
Assault Ships = top left,
Covert Ops Frigates = bottom right...

NOTE: Faction ships would use RED as a color. Just a suggestion. I forgot to put that in the image.

This would require expanding the icon column of the overview a bit to accommodate the new capital class ship icons.

NOTE: my icons can be shrunk considerably and still convey good information, so the overview columns and rows arenÆt going to need too much adjustment to make this fit.

Identifying the race of a ship seems to fit with the upcoming push towards factional warfare.

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: svartaGenerally

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I think the UI needs a little more asynchronicity in its communication with the server. For example, I warp to a gate in low sec, someone is there so I open their info tab to check them out, or maybe just happen to be trying to open the market or somewthing. The UI freezes at this point waiting for the server response, meanwhile they pod me. The request to the server should be asynchronous, the UI remaining live and unfrozen and brought up to date when the reply comes.

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I agree completely, but what I think you mean is they need to have the UI running in a separate thread so that the UI doesn't have to wait on things with slow responses.

An application where the UI is on a separate thread from the background heavy duty work is very rare. Only the best programs bother with this type of multithreading because it's such a pain in the ass. But if you ask me it's worth it.

I'm sick and tired of waiting for the dang market window to unfreeze after I sell something.

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Originally by: Terazuk

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But of course new client soonÖ lets hope we see some of this in action!

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Originally by: Paper Airplane

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I agree with most of this stuff. Some of it is a little over the top (i.e. turn off modules at x% cap).

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Originally by: Shar Tegral

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Stop projecting your out of game beliefs of what society should be upon the rest of us.

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Originally by: Hugh Ruka

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If not for the instancing nature of GuildWars, I'd have never returned back to EVE. Howeve I miss the great UI.

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Originally by: Echo Sigma

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while we're talking about hotkeys, I would like to see a generic action button. Personally I would use the space bar for this. Within jump range of a gate? Hit space to jump through. Next to a station? Space will dock you.

More useful maybe in a fleet setting: Someone broadcasts to attack a target. Hit space to lock the target. Or a broadcast that someone needs armor rep. Space targets them.

There are probably many more instances where this can be used that I'm not thinking of right now.

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Originally by: CypherDragon

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Hotkeys! I don't understand why CCP has never put in user-customizable hotkeys for most features. Sure, they may have to rework the chat system, but that's only one part of a UI that's cluttered with massive amounts of constantly changing data. Being able to act on that data quickly is essential to staying alive. The right-click menus, while probably efficient in code, are absolutely horrible when you're dealing with a UI. Just think about how much you right-click in the GUI for your OS...not very much, because the commonly-used tasks have assignable hotkeys (unless your a CLI junkie...but that's a different topic all together)!

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Originally by: CCP Oveur

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Delivery continues. Bookmarking ensues.

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Originally by: CCP Oveur

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Delivery continues. Bookmarking ensues.

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: CCP Oveur

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Delivery continues. Bookmarking ensues.

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I know what all of those words mean. But I still have no idea what you just said.

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Originally by: Ermac420

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That idiot right click UI just makes it utterly unplayable...

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Originally by: Dizzhar

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/signed

The thread might be old, but even new players suffer from the bad UI.

And to quote a friend of mine that quit playing recently (he only lasted 1 month)

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That idiot right click UI just makes it utterly unplayable...

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Why didn't we use them 80 man-years to fix bugs?

Well, that's simple. We can't. These are visual ar

Originally by: Icees

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Edited by: Icees on 14/08/2007 05:00:46
I would prefer to see the changes Xaen has suggested before any of the current updates being worked on are implemented. In my opinion, these are more important.

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Originally by: Imhothar Xarodit

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Ever heard of departments?
The guys working on the UI aren't the same who are workin on Ambulation.

Think about it, that are 2 completely different and unrelated systems.

But yes, the changes need to happen soon

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Originally by: Empire marketslave

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what i dont get is how simple things like showing when you are warp scrambled are so hard to fix, after all it shows you who is jamming you and painting you why not scrambling


i think i do remember reading that the UI wont be in rev 3 i think it will be in rev 3.2

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Originally by: Xaen

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Edited by: Xaen on 07/02/2007 17:44:08
Edited by: Xaen on 01/10/2006 23:24:17
List continued:

Move the UI to a separate thread from the one that waits on server requests to come back. I realize this one is a royal pain in the ass to implement, but who isn't sick of waiting for the market window to update after they sell something?

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Originally by: Xaen

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Here are some articles that apparently your UI guys need to read - that or they need the time to do the UI correctly. I'm programmer too, I understand sometimes what you want to do is not what you have time to do, so I'm not going to presume your UI guys suck...yet.

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Taedrin

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I don't want an EVE version of CTmod. Just the ability to read data, process data, and display data.

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Precisely why needs to be customizable. While I may want the same things as you, not everybody will.

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Originally by: Marak Bon

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...
... when i started that i was thinking 'damn i hope this is updated soon'. The game is excellent, and im gladly paying my hard earned cash to get a little game time, but god damn, can you please fix the UI? Its like trying to use Win 95 again.

I was going to say 'i can understand trying to keep down the system requirements', but all the graphics are being cranked up anyway, id prefer a chunky ship to a chunky UI any day.

*sigh*

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Originally by: G0rF

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Some great ideas here, and some that would just make macroing a dream.

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Originally by: G0rF

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How come the "Ship AI voice" can tell me "I cannot set a waypoint for the same destination twice", or "those items are not stackable", but can't be bothered to tell me "Shields down" or "Armour at 50%"?

[EDIT]I'm with MKingley here: I'd also like to hear "you are being warp-scrambled" BEFORE I get to the point where I have to hear "You're going to die because you're being warp-scrambled" or whatever she says.[/EDIT]

How come when I'm locking a target I get a tone, but when he's locking me, there isn't?

More useful audio feedback would be great.

I'm looking forward to the new UI, I must admit. Almost as much as I'm looking forward to the new models.

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Originally by: Siest Pelan

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/signed

CCP, listen to Xaen. Better yet, hire the dude!

Please..

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Originally by: Vemille Kechov

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I have another idea to add that's been with me since my earliest experience with EVE.
Basically, the modules, ships, drones, etc. in EVE all have a massive amount of information and statistics associated with them; in addition to the complexity of the information already there, skills modify the information further. The problem is, there is no way to know the stats on a particular module based on your skills unless you fit it to your ship.

What I propose is that a second column be added to the "show info" window; the first column would give the base stats of the module (or ship, ammunition, drone, etc), and the second would give the stats as your skills modify them. This is especially important for missiles; currently, the only way to find out your missile stats is to select "show info" on the missile through the fitting window. Anywhere else, be it in space or in station, it is impossible to find out your missile stats. Very annoying. Maybe an extension of this proposal would be an option for "show info for active ship."

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Originally by: Vemille Kechov

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Another thing that needs to happen is the organization of the info for some items, particularly drones. While a ship's stats are organized into different groups, such as defense, offense, capacitor, navigation, etc., the drones' information is given in no particular order or organization, making them hard to compare and comprehend.

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Originally by: Karentaki

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... well, maybe there would still be a few whiners, but at least you wouldn't get 50 page threads threatening to hunt down and kill Zulupark

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Originally by: Maam

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Would be good to see my own ship fittings remotely.

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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow

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* ... I spent 10 days cursing the fact that there wasn't a "repair all" button. Well, there is, but it's always hidden behind the chat window!

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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow

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* You cannot organize objects at a station or in your cargo hold into convenient groups (ie: file system directories/folders). Everything's all mixed together. And while we are at it, a line item view would be nice, instead of the large icons.

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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow

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* The ship control panel is graphically very nice -- but its location is a problem, because it's dead center in the middle of the bottom area of the screen, which is absolutely prime real estate.

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Originally by: Ginja Ninja

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I thought of something else..

The fitting screen could do with showing resistances when active hardeners are installed and active - saves having to fit them, go outside turn them on and check the ship attributes.

While they are at it, it might also be useful to toggle certain modules to show how long your cap would last with them running.

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Originally by: Thargat

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For my part the most important piece of the UI that needs updating is the threading (or if that doesn't fix it, then go wild and try other solutions, like another programming language, there's prolly a bunch of good coders at CCP who could put something together).
UI lagging because of server/client lag is awful. Most people will hardly notice the lag if they can't "feel" it through the UI.

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