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Neveren The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:48:00 - [1] Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again?
wierchas noobhunter Caldari Praxiteles Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:49:00 - [2] lok at china k ? wew ill have lots of stuff that ppl will be not awaible to use and that will suck join me be cool
Dred'Pirate Jesus Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:50:00 - [3] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 08/10/2006 19:51:33 Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? Ummm... No? Though getting rid of the small galaxy of secure cans that have been unused for over 3 months or longer would be nice.. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ [2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" :
Rockbox Amarr Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:51:00 - [4] That would be too awsome Nova Satar > i'll be waiting Verone > ♥
Zaldo Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:52:00 - [5] I have never played online games,where this request didnt come up.Then again i never seen it happend,so take a gues if it will here Zaldoc...Miner Zaldoza..Mission Runner
Kalissa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:53:00 - [6] Edited by: Kalissa on 08/10/2006 19:53:24 Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? Personally if everyone was reset to the beginning I think I could probably live with it as everyone would be in the same situation, but seriously you'd have some people in this game leaping from tall buildings
Soulis Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:58:00 - [7] i'd feel sorry for all the people that have waited on skills completing for dreads etc. pfffftttttt - Immy
Dred'Pirate Jesus Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Kalissa Personally if everyone was reset to the beginning I think I could probably live with it as everyone would be in the same situation, but seriously you'd have some people in this game leaping from tall buildings If it happened before fanfest I bet the Devs would be ambushed as soon as they appeared and then they would get tossed off a tall building.. [Lex]Now Fly![/Lex] ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ [2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" :
Zaldoza Caldari Holographic MindWare Constructions	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:03:00 - [9] Could be nobody would show up,since everyone left Eve Zaldoc...Miner Zaldoza..Mission Runner
Ishiko Tanaka	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:14:00 - [10] Yes, because when your goal is to set up a persistant user-run universe, the correct step after over three years of work would be to reset it like a Counter Strike game. A reset would be the worst mistake they could make followed closely behind by not reinforcing their server and code.
aggiedog	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:17:00 - [11] Besides from everyone leaving because all of their hard work was lost of the years..... There are a bunch of gameplay issues that would need to be addressed. For example, people can set up POS's relatively early while to take them down would require months of specialized training(dreads). This is already shown up on the Chinese server. --------------------------------------------- Forum Wars!...Because the battlefeild is laggy.
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:50:00 - [12] what kind of ****** up drugs are you on? Gah!
Tripp Orsam Dragonstar	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:51:00 - [13] EVE was already reset at the end of beta, sorry you missed it. ----------------------------- EVE Online perfectly strikes all your free time wrecking your 1994 marriage.
Quin Tal Expeto Libertas	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:56:00 - [14] That's a big neg.
Neveren The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.08 21:11:00 - [15] Simple hypothetical =) i have 6 accounts with 15M + SP... id probably be uspet if it restarted as would alot of people.. was simply just on my mind today... that Hey look how far we came... what would you do if the game reset tomorrow~
Dagda Dia	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:04:00 - [16] This I don't like! Have 3 accounts one with a 127 skills, 27,930,506 SPs. One with 121 Skills, 29,897,927 SPs. one with less the 5 million SPs. NO WAY would I start over again. Move along nothing to see here, yes I am a ALT Just portecting my main.
Ares Helix Gallente NunyaBizzness Omega Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:09:00 - [17] That's a big HELL NO from me. Not much else I can say on the matter.
Plaetean Mortis Manus	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:19:00 - [18] Quote: would it be fun to start again? Are you for real? Why would you want to spend months and months redoing learning skills, spaceship command, gunnery, engineering etc? Especially with some people having accounts they have been developing over 3 years Makes no sense to me...
Lifewire Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:22:00 - [19] I like that it would fnck up all spoiters and ISK-traders. But on the other hand i like to fly carrier Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
ElCholo Minmatar	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:32:00 - [20] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 08/10/2006 19:51:33 Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? Ummm... No? Though getting rid of the small galaxy of secure cans that have been unused for over 3 months or longer would be nice.. That would be a very good idea .. I know I have several cans out there and tbh, have no idea where I left em. +++ inactivity timer on sec cans
Mrmuttley House of Tempers	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:34:00 - [21] Excellent way to get lots of vets to leave the game. We're ahead of you because we earned it. So err no. Getting rid of unattended cans is fine by me as long as there is a way to reset the timer on them. My favourite is having permits which can only be brought (for a few isk) in the same constellation as the cans are in. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Got Lag? Dev Responses Link-O-Matic
Sgt Blade Imperial Space Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:40:00 - [22] Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? errm whats the point, for those who actually end up staying and playing again from the start would eman they woukld know what they are doing, this will then l;ead on to less time wasted to learn the game. this ofc will then lead to lots of people in eve who are yes very close to each other and compeatng to get the best ships but instead will all be equal, more or less. now whats the point in that when 25k if use are near the same sp and can pretty mcuh fly the same class of ships etc and ending up having fights that are more of less the same . yes there will be people who will train things differnet to others but a vast majority wil stick to what they know is best and quickest to go for. persoanlly id rather be able to compeate with iothers at far diferent skill olelves from the rock hard vets to the ikle nooblets....
Kasak Black 133rd Ghost Wing	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:53:00 - [23] I have an idea, lets not! I've worked long and hard to get where I am now, and where I want to be. I don't wish to be back out where I started.
Micaela Caldari Brute Force Missions inc	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:00:00 - [24] rofl , wipe eve ? well i for one would be outraged , i spend my fair share of the money a month on this thing , and your asking that the gaem gets wiped so we all lose everything? i would stop playing. so would most eve online players , whats the point of training up if ccp r just gonna wipe your character everytime it gets good. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:05:00 - [25] What you're suggesting is corporation suicide. CCP would go under if they did this. >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Alexis Flamestar Gallente ANZEP Australia-New Zealand Eve Players Group	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:24:00 - [26] Reset Eve? Yes that would be terrible (smirk!) Give people that weren't here 3 years ago a chance??? How disgusting! (sarcastic tone) http://eve-anzep.iwgn.net/cgi-bin/anzep/blogs/idx <-- All The Dev Blogs(2003-2006) in ONE Place
SurfinSeaOtter Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:29:00 - [27] Ok, I say we abduct Neveren and leave him naked strapped down to a secure container on an ice planet!
Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Alexis Flamestar Reset Eve? Yes that would be terrible (smirk!) Give people that weren't here 3 years ago a chance??? How disgusting! (sarcastic tone) some nerve, you forget that we paid each month for those years. my self 2 years + x by 10 pounds. so give me back my moeny and i swear i wont mind reseting. sorta, in fact it will help me leave the game and have half my life back. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Kaaii Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:11:00 - [29] Sure Just reset my bank account the 3+ years ive been playing, x 3 accounts.. still like the idea? Think CCP would? "..Red Alliance aren't better pilots...just better exploiters..." Trading 101
ArcticFox Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Alexis Flamestar Reset Eve? Yes that would be terrible (smirk!) Give people that weren't here 3 years ago a chance??? How disgusting! (sarcastic tone) You're right, people who start significantly later than others have absolutely no chance to play on the same level, ever. That's why all of us who started say, a year and a half ago, are rolling in the gutter, unable to compete with all those 3+ year old characters... oh, wait. Past a certain point (considerably lower than you'd expect) extra skillpoints mean little more than having more options, they are not a win button. -------------------------- What to do about High Sec Suicide piracy...
Complacency's Bane Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:17:00 - [31] Yeah, reset EVE. It would be cool if we had the ability to anchor PoSes on day 2 and not have the ability to kill them until day 450. "I got there first, Its mine forever" is a fantastic system for territorial control.
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:18:00 - [32] Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? Me, and I imagine most players, would quit if this would happen.
ObiDoom Kenobi Gallente The Senators of The Confederation The Confederation	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:31:00 - [33] The thing that would be cool about a reset is then those of us that weren't smart enough to get in on the ground floor would have a second chance. I really wish I had been around in the beginning, when EVE was just getting started. I'm not complaining about skill points or anything, it just would have been cool to have been involved in the early history.
Complacency's Bane Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:35:00 - [34] Originally by: ObiDoom Kenobi I really wish I had been around in the beginning, when EVE was just getting started. I'm not complaining about skill points or anything, it just would have been cool to have been involved in the early history. The game released in May of '03. It wasnt ready for release until December '03. Theres a reason why population was initially so low.
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2006.10.09 01:17:00 - [35] It was a nightmare doing that once, I would NOT do it again. Everybody in a rookie frigate with 2k isk, civilian gatling and civilian miner. Do you know how long it takes to build a market with that? Every piece of tritanium has to be mined in FRIGATES, since it will be probably a month before anybody can afford a Cruiser BPO. 4k bounty rats don't make much isk either. And you want a better frigate? GOOD LUCK! Few people will be building them, and they will be pretty expensive. I think I had to go 25 jumps to get a Probe for 500k, Rifters were around 1.5mil. Not too hard you say? It is if almost all minerals sell for under .5 isk, the only good one to sell for a time was Zydrine at 10-15isk. The only way to make money was to buy up minerals at absurdly low prices all day, then get in within the first 10 minutes after downtime when the NPC buy orders reset. Nope, defintely don't want to see a reset. I still don't remember how I managed to get the isk together to even start this corp so early, and I do NOT want to give it up. Speaking of corps, I should contact the current CEO of 3M and see if it's still active at all.
Complacency's Bane Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.09 01:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Siege It was a nightmare doing that once, I would NOT do it again. Everybody in a rookie frigate with 2k isk, civilian gatling and civilian miner. Do you know how long it takes to build a market with that? Every piece of tritanium has to be mined in FRIGATES, since it will be probably a month before anybody can afford a Cruiser BPO. 4k bounty rats don't make much isk either. And you want a better frigate? GOOD LUCK! Few people will be building them, and they will be pretty expensive. I think I had to go 25 jumps to get a Probe for 500k, Rifters were around 1.5mil. Not too hard you say? It is if almost all minerals sell for under .5 isk, the only good one to sell for a time was Zydrine at 10-15isk. The only way to make money was to buy up minerals at absurdly low prices all day, then get in within the first 10 minutes after downtime when the NPC buy orders reset. Nope, defintely don't want to see a reset. I still don't remember how I managed to get the isk together to even start this corp so early, and I do NOT want to give it up. Speaking of corps, I should contact the current CEO of 3M and see if it's still active at all. There would be a ton of isk in-game very quickly with the current game mechanics. Mine up minerals for a couple frigates, go to 0.0 and chain battleship spawns. Unlike 2003, there is a massive amount of isk influx into EVE, even with frigates. Isk buys BPOs which allows more mining which expands the mineral base and allows for a market. What took months to do at release would only be a week or two, tops, now.
Minikrimi Extreme Caldari Essence Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.09 01:49:00 - [37] Kill the secure cans, sure. I personally reset my account every so often because I want to take things in a different direction, but that's just me. Not many veterans take that approach. Eve is based on building up power bases over the course of years, not a few frantic months of grinding followed by an endgame. That was made explicitly clear from the beginning, and I know that many of today's players weren't around back then to hear it. Sorry, but that's what the game revolves around. Remember that success is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity. It's not always the big guys who are prepared who get that opportunity. Someone who doesn't have an empire to shape might have the edge when opportunities arise. Some who were counted as down and out successfully transitioned back to being on top again, others weren't able to do so. There are no "winners" in Eve unless you mean in terms of who has fun and who does not. There is no "endgame." There is definitely a stratification of society, but there is also enough movement between levels to ensure that opportunities will come to those who have patience and are willing to be team players.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.09 02:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? Honestly I would try a few trials on other games before deciding what to do with my sub money. After all if I had to start from scratch why not do it somewhere else? I certainly don't have the time to play two MMOs. If CCP ever did this I would have to ask myself if there is a point starting over with the chance it could all vanish into the aether again. This ain't Counterstrike after all. Luckily I don't think this will ever happen. >> RECRUITING <<
Ishmael Hansen	Posted - 2006.10.09 06:40:00 - [39] Ok, let's say you saving that extra income to buy that nice car you dream about. Now let's say, let's just say that the bank calls you after 3 years of savings "hey, we just reseted your bank account, it's at 0.0 now", we just thought we give the chance to everyone start over again. Have a pleasant day.
StarLite Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:02:00 - [40] The idea isn't new to MMO games tho. In Shattered Galaxy there is a bi-monthly [or so] wipe of all characters that you can voluntarily sign into. As a bonus you will get higher starting stats every time and some uber-exclusive bonus items [that you can ONLY get thru getting reset] so basicly your base stats become better each reset. Altho I don't think such a system will work for EvE, and a lot of people will leave if they ever do... :o _______________________________________________________________________ This sig is guarded by SigGuard(c)
Tiree Amarr Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:08:00 - [41] I know I would quit Eve and ask my money back if that happened, maybe start playing WoW after all. It cost me a lot of money and time to get my characters to where they are now. I don't think it would take as long to rebuild though, we now have more skills available to make things easier. Also agent missions will supply you with new frigates and cruisers eventually (probably faster then getting the BPO). T2 lottery's would be a bit useless though, as noone would be able to build (let alone fly) those things. Also it would get quite busy in empire as noone would probably go into 0.0 in a frigate...
Kumu Honua	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:16:00 - [42] The general idea of the post is quite ludicrous, but the comments of "Asking for my money back" is equally silly. I've only been here a month. I would not want a reset either.
TuRtLe HeAd The Bratwurst Burglars	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:18:00 - [43] lets watch 450,000 simultaneously quit EvE and start playing another game. How about no.
Riho Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:47:00 - [44] after playing a year.... i cant say i feel that im far behind the OLD vets... i just cant use dreads (dont care too :P) or other cap ships. i dont have skills to fly 3 different race BS very good... but then again dont care... only have for 2 races :P you only need to be good at one race to be able o compete at evry lvl and it doesnt take that long to get there. if there was a reset... id like my money back and quit :P
Naylon	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:59:00 - [45] If the main server was reset, I'd do the following. Buy a shotgun. Fly to Iceland. Massacre the Devs :) Seriously though, I'd kinda like to see something like a third server setup, preferably running the release build. Just so all the people who have only been playing a short while can see what it was like and how far the game has come. Might stop some of the whines on the forums too :)
Wrayeth Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:13:00 - [46] I, for one, would be rather unhappy if EVE was reset. I've been playing for two years and some change, and it's only in the last year or so that I've truly blossomed into what I wanted to be in EVE. I can now do almost all of those things I've wanted to do since the game started, and I would hate to have start over again; in fact, I would rather just cancel my account. I'm happy with where I am and where I'm going; it took me a while to get here, but now that I've arrived it's badass. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Beoer	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? Why do i even read this thread?..
Rafein Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Neveren Reset everything... no skill points.. NO secure cans littering places... no nothing... would it be fun to start again? Delete your main, and let us know how it goes.
Cerberal Minmatar Emerald Empire	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:33:00 - [49] Better idea: Make a second server which starts from scratch. Dont wanna restart your character on tranq? no problem since your playing on a new server and the data on tranq remains in tranq. 1 fee per month 2 servers to play on and 1 test server. Sounds peachy.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:50:00 - [50] The main reason why (if) I could say yes to a reset would be that it would allow CCP to make some sweeking changes that are badly needed and should have been made long ago. Like removing the ability to have alts and increasing the role of standings, and changing npc corps to be less viable. Old blog
Tissa Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:52:00 - [51] Edited by: Tissa on 09/10/2006 09:53:10 Originally by: Complacency's Bane There would be a ton of isk in-game very quickly with the current game mechanics. Mine up minerals for a couple frigates, go to 0.0 and chain battleship spawns. Unlike 2003, there is a massive amount of isk influx into EVE, even with frigates. Isk buys BPOs which allows more mining which expands the mineral base and allows for a market. What took months to do at release would only be a week or two, tops, now. I'm sorry there is a slight flaw with that one. One week newbies have great difficulty taking out 0.7 rats let alone 0.0 BS spawns. In fact I doubt many 2003 players can take 0.0 BS in a frig - they just don't have the tank for it. "What took months to do at release would only be a week or two, tops, now." because newer players have the opportunity to join established corps containing experienced players who take them ratting/mining areas and train them up while helping them to make isk. As for the massive isk influx, from where? Thin air? If everyone is at mining 1 then not much is being mined, money is not being made and bpos are not bought. Besides people will be mission grinding for skill book money anyway. My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06)
Raynaar Amarr Intergalactic Mining And Trade Corp.	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:36:00 - [52] I didn't read past the OP, but tbh, don't think I need to. Flame post, plz lock. -Ray
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:43:00 - [53] Originally by: Rod Blaine The main reason why (if) I could say yes to a reset would be that it would allow CCP to make some sweeking changes that are badly needed and should have been made long ago. Like removing the ability to have alts and increasing the role of standings, and changing npc corps to be less viable. ... not to mention all the ship changes that needs be cleared, damage type distribution, racial concept cleaning, and more. Oh oh oh, and factional warfare that means something - you'll have to join a player corp eventually to escape PvP since nooby corps will kick you out to a patriot corp, and all patriot corps are at war with their factions racial enemy... In short, restarting EVE would have mean making EVE2, since the alterations would be fundamental beyond content additions - it would have to affect the very foundations for game play. Otherwise it is as has been said. The older players do not have a 1-2 year advantage, we have a 1-2 year broadening of our skills. This means that a one-year-old can easily compete and beat me (I'm Intaki, my perception sucks) at flying HACs, but a one-year old can't fly all kinds of T2 ships the way I can. That is an advantage of choice, not an advantage in flight - it simply won't matter when we meet in space since I'm limited to the ship I am currently flying. - Three years old
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:45:00 - [54] Originally by: Alexis Flamestar Reset Eve? Yes that would be terrible (smirk!) Give people that weren't here 3 years ago a chance??? How disgusting! (sarcastic tone) Reset EVE? SCREW OVER everyone who has put any effort into playing this game for the past 3 years? The more effort you put in, the more you get screwed, yeah, lets just screw over all of our dedicated players so the new ones dont have to feel new. Wait, lets not.
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:50:00 - [55] You guys are all getting worked up over a Troll's post. We all know for a fact the server will not be reset. Let this topic end. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:51:00 - [56] how about no? ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Khajit Smitty Minmatar MisFunk Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:52:00 - [57] Dear CCP, please reset the server. Once it has been reset it would be great if you could Refund everyone their monthly subscriptions too as our money has been invested in the game development not too mention personal character development. I know this sounds like a strange request but i forgot to take my medicine this morning and well im not thinking striaght, my doctor says its because i am to hyperactive and cannot stop bashing myself against my padded white walls. I do hope you implement this rollback, i would really like to buy a new straight jacket with the money that is refunded. Thanks Khajit Smitty Mental Ayslum Patient
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:59:00 - [58] Excellent idea. That would let me do something else instead of playing this game. I know my GF would love it. No way in hell I'd start all over again. Mining in a reaper anyone?
Nooey Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.09 12:08:00 - [59] Originally by: Minikrimi Extreme I personally reset my account every so often because I want to take things in a different direction, but that's just me. Not many veterans take that approach. Eve is based on building up power bases over the course of years, not a few frantic months of grinding followed by an endgame. That was made explicitly clear from the beginning, and I know that many of today's players weren't around back then to hear it. Sorry, but that's what the game revolves around. Remember that success is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity. It's not always the big guys who are prepared who get that opportunity. Someone who doesn't have an empire to shape might have the edge when opportunities arise. Some who were counted as down and out successfully transitioned back to being on top again, others weren't able to do so. There are no "winners" in Eve unless you mean in terms of who has fun and who does not. There is no "endgame." There is definitely a stratification of society, but there is also enough movement between levels to ensure that opportunities will come to those who have patience and are willing to be team players. Despite the craziness of the original post, I thought it at least had some merit in bringing about a cool post like this. ____
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.09 12:36:00 - [60] I'm only a year old, and I'm a mean, lean, ass kicking machine, who can duel with the best of them. When you're a month old, the difference between 1 million SP or not is the difference between being able to do something at all or not. When you've topped off your first 5million SP, you'll hardly notice them any more. Hence why we all lubs EVE. A 6 month old character can kick just as much ass as a 3 year old character, as long as they're good.
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.10.09 12:53:00 - [61] Heres my 2 cents, 1 cent: Do it, I thank CCP as i cancel my 3 accounts and move on to better things. EvE being he only game i play. 1 cent #2: Don't do it, Because there is too many stresses in this world and some people need a far off galaxy to escape too for a while. CCP would have more then half thier older. Placebase, maybe most, i really doubt people who have been playing for more a year would want to start over, _________________________________________________________ My First EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Neveren The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:00:00 - [62] this was not a troll post, Simply a What if.. and Food for thought post.. dont really read into it that much folks =) Simply for thinking about and the big "What if".. welcome to monday morning work :/ and all i can do is browse the forums through a remote desktop connection :/ sigh
Dave White Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:03:00 - [63] tbh I don't think it's such a horribly bad idea at all --------------------------
Lifewire Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:06:00 - [64] If so many people would quit EVE, then it might be a good idea to reduce server lag But to start in an Ibis again, hm Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
Oana Harkt	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:25:00 - [65] I'd like it. But not now, announce it in advance. Say: in 1 year we reset (make it a big faction showdown with a clear objective and a "winner"), and from now on every 3-4 years there's a reset. A lot of gameplay things could be tweaked for more fun and less time investment (skills, cool ships etc), if there was a reset to solve the inflation problem. It would kick a lot of people out from passivity into more conflict and a goal to "win", dominate, conquer before the time's up. Some people with a load of sp/money may quit (while claiming how newbies have a decent shot without their advantages, ironically enough), but a lot would jump at the opportunity to join the game in a fresh world.
CottonBuddie	Posted - 2006.10.09 14:15:00 - [66] Originally by: Oana Harkt I'd like it. But not now, announce it in advance. Say: in 1 year we reset (make it a big faction showdown with a clear objective and a "winner"), and from now on every 3-4 years there's a reset. A lot of gameplay things could be tweaked for more fun and less time investment (skills, cool ships etc), if there was a reset to solve the inflation problem. It would kick a lot of people out from passivity into more conflict and a goal to "win", dominate, conquer before the time's up. Some people with a load of sp/money may quit (while claiming how newbies have a decent shot without their advantages, ironically enough), but a lot would jump at the opportunity to join the game in a fresh world. Not when theres a chance CCP will just reset the world again they wont.
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.15 04:18:00 - [67] Originally by: Oana Harkt I'd like it. But not now, announce it in advance. Say: in 1 year we reset (make it a big faction showdown with a clear objective and a "winner"), and from now on every 3-4 years there's a reset. A lot of gameplay things could be tweaked for more fun and less time investment (skills, cool ships etc), if there was a reset to solve the inflation problem. It would kick a lot of people out from passivity into more conflict and a goal to "win", dominate, conquer before the time's up. Some people with a load of sp/money may quit (while claiming how newbies have a decent shot without their advantages, ironically enough), but a lot would jump at the opportunity to join the game in a fresh world. Personally, If I knew the world was going to be reset in a year, I wouldn't bother logging on. Why train month long skills? They'll be gone in a year. Why fight for territory? It'll be gone in a year. Why bother doing anything at all? In a year it will be gone.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.15 05:52:00 - [68] Well the thing a lot of people forget, or havn't learnt, or just refuse to accept is that skill points matter very little in the final out come of most things. I see a lot of people voting yes to a reset because it would put them on an even playing field with the vets, so to speak. What would most certainly happen is, the people who are pwning now, will continue to do so, even if they were reset back into a newbie frig. I don't think people relieze this, and never will since the servers are not being rest any time soon. But there is no doubt in my mind, that the exact same players, and groups that are in controll now, will be in controll shortly after the start of a new eve. However, reseting eve does have some other issues rather then putting everyone back into newbie frigs. For one, allience warfare would grind to a halt very quickly, as someone said, it takes a couple weeks to ancor a POS, and a year or two worth of training to take one down reliably. You would also rid your self of the BPO cartels. But frankly I kinnda like them. No I have no BPO of my own, nor do I have a cartel, but I see no reason to punish those who were creative enough to put such a thing in place when the rest of us overlooked it. Though again, I'm certain you would see the uber rich in eve today, become the uber rich in a new eve. Because contray to the popular myth spread around by the unknowing, being rich in eve has nothing to do with skill points, nor being in the game before you. Those people are just better at playing the virtual economy then you are, and better then my self, though I don't have the delusional idea that I should be given riches through a mechanic change because some people are smarter then me in that aspect of the game.
Dannek Llama F5 and Associates	Posted - 2006.10.15 05:59:00 - [69] So, for the vast majority of people posting in this thread, you're not so much interested in the game as you are interested in your investment in the game? Do you actually have fun anymore? -------------------------------------------------------- Working towards my own personal Dreadnought, one ISK at a time.
zeKzn Empire of Destiny	Posted - 2006.10.15 06:01:00 - [70] i dont think people understand the concept of sunk costs very well, based on this thread :d resident economics expert My thoughts are my own and do not reflect those of my Corp/Alliance
corroded	Posted - 2006.10.15 07:09:00 - [71] a big HELL NO. on the other hand.. What if: we got all our sp's back, to redistribute as we see fit? What then?
Acinonyx Jubatus International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 07:29:00 - [72] Think you're mixing something up... :\| Two things I'l lsay... 1. Would I like EVE to be completely reset? No, I would not, for I've pretty much gotten a certain ship class completely specialized, and working on 3 others at the moment... so that'd blow to no end. 2. Would I like to go back in time and do things differently, relive the good old days of not knowing what's around the corner, never seeing a .4 system and being scared of what'll happen(note: when I first entered a .4, I thoguht I'd get jumped by player pirates at the station and gates, not sniperwise but lil frigates and such like npc's at belts do...)? Maybe... but the only thing is that's never going to happen and I already know too much of eve to be able to relive those days :/ Yeah, I miss the days when I was a newb, not a care in the world, heck I felt going one jump to the next system over was exciting cause I might get myself lost... or killed.. mind you it was from 1.0 to .9 heh. As for wiping the entire server to start from scratch? Nah.... that's sorta what happened when the wormhole collapsed... only a bit different.
Miya Kurosawa Caldari White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2006.10.15 07:52:00 - [73] Any player knows how hard it is to start right from the beginning. It would also be a big pain in the ass to retrain all those skills again, even more earning ISK just to get new stuff and equips. No doubt CCP will lose a lot of its players if this happens. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam Pinoy ako! =) For you Philippine players out there, join us in the Pinoy channel. Spread the love of EVE =)
Kazaam Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.15 08:06:00 - [74] Would be horrible imho. On 30k current players it would be something like : - I think over 50% would be canceling subscription shaking fist at CCP for that. ( And actually that's not really in their interest to do such a wipe... they'd go bankrupt ) - The "survivors" would stack in Empire on a roid or would just chain missions as some people do. - 0.0 would be dead. I'd personally cancel my subscription... I've just finished a 3 or 4-months skillplan to finally get those 425 II's ( starting from about nothing in Gunnery ). I've just hit 8m SP and I definately do NOT want a wipe. One of my corpmate has over 50m SP... imagine CCP telling him : "TQ is going to be fully resetted. You will lose every character you currently have and will have to start over from 0 again. Sorry for the inconveniences this would cause. Have fun playing EVE Online" I could hear him from here ( well actually everyone could hear him :o ) _________________________________________
Lucian Alucard Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.15 08:11:00 - [75] uh no unless we get Dark Ochre in Nonni again,which needs to be done since inflation has gone through the roof.
Antiochus Laetus Technology Acquisition Collective Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 08:16:00 - [76] Originally by: Soulis i'd feel sorry for all the people that have waited on skills completing for dreads etc. dread pilots...what about the poor guys who are just now flying titans...all that training wasted I really need a signature.
Chrisbitz Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.10.15 08:27:00 - [77] I don't feel the OP was a troll, it was just a simple what if and discuss question.. Here's a different slant on it..: I wish I could go back in time, and been there at the start of eve, knowing what I know now. I'd love to experience the excitement of new basic ship types being introduced, like cruisers and BCs and BSs, and being the first in my peer group to achieve these goals. I'd like to have 0.0 not already taken over by large alliances. I'd love to be the first person in my corp to have 1mill ISK. Those aims are all impossible now, and new and different possible achievements are appearing all the time. Of course, eve wasn't as well evolved as it is now, and the bugs and problems would have been much greater, and we probably choose to allow that to slip our memory.. I'd love a new game to be created that could categorically guarantee that it would be as good as eve is now, in 3 years time, but you just don't get that. Those players that started after beta took the risk, and got lucky. While we're dreaming, I wish I was as successful in life, as i feel I am in eve... ahh well :-)
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2006.10.15 09:03:00 - [78] reset eve? No. Just No. Not even as a hypothetical situation. Just <insert strong explenative> no.
Cmdr Sy Off Balance Sheet Entity	Posted - 2006.10.15 09:45:00 - [79] I wouldn't care if CCP reset EVE. Everyone would have the same crap skillpoints and equipment. Not everyone would have the same crap level of initiative and experience.
Yann Xonogoth Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.15 09:51:00 - [80] If they do that EVE lose instantly 50% of its players... and they will never come back. Opening an new server is another solution. But would it be good to split the 25,000 players base on 2 servers?! I doubt it. Yann Xonogoth Miner for the Multiverse Corporation
trimdonite	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:32:00 - [81] Edited by: trimdonite on 15/10/2006 10:33:54 it would be like spending weeks trying to finish a game only for it to crash just before the final boss and wipe all your save games. i know i would quit instantly. it wouldnt be me sticking a finger up at CCP, but ive trained 2 alts up since i started and i hate having to go through all the skill training again. If i ever get rid of my current alt, i will never start another because its such a chore. If i had to do it with my main character then i doubt i would have the willpower to log in anymore. I dont play the game that much, so its not like im addicted, but ive spent a lot of money on it, and i dont want to have to spend it all again to get back to where i am. oh and 2 servers would be a bad idea too. you waste all your time and isk defending your space, only for another server to open and you attackers move onto that server and take the same space you were defending. the game would just get silly and pointless.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:41:00 - [82] Whoever can put up POSes fastest, wins 0.0 for months! RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Mned Graydroggen Satal's Legion	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:47:00 - [83] Some nice answers in this one by Ithildin and Minikrimi Extreme for example. Its Lorth's anwer I'd like to add to Quote: I don't think people relieze this, and never will since the servers are not being rest any time soon. But there is no doubt in my mind, that the exact same players, and groups that are in controll now, will be in controll shortly after the start of a new eve. This summirises EVE as I experience it pretty much for me. I.ve been here since release. I.ve done many things and have traveled many places. Become proficient with many ships and much equipment. But above all I have Met People. I.ve been flying with some almost my whole ingame life, others just a few years. Some I can read as a book, others I meet every once in a while as we frequent the same regions and/or social circles. Some I'd trust with my most precious, others I'd not even entrust with a single isk. These are the people that color my daily ingame live and make that Im still playing this game. Should there be a reset i have no doubt that ( If all returned, which wont happen ) I will look up the same ppl, frequent the same regions and live the same ingame live, only now more proficiently. Imo, nothing will realy change in the bigger social structures that have been build over the years on a rollback. At the most some small detaisl at the surface. Mned.

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