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Don ZOLA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:39:00 - [271] as i wrote in another thread bout gm issue : numerous times BOB (and some other alliances i guess) were blamed for having GMS, DEVS, ISD in their ranks. ofc not blamed just for having them but accuses r always that those ppl abuse their powers for alliance causes. imho ppl who work for ccp, no matter r they paid or volunteers shouldnt be able to join alliances and affect other ppls playing by abusing their powers. personally if i ever found that for example gm in corp A helped corp A to win a fight against my corp i would sue ccp... too much ppl is complaining on those things so i think best would be to make some collective petition to get such ppl (with normal and "power" accs) out of alliances. it would be hard and prolly some would try to remain on such positions and in their alliances but then simply find new ppl for such jobs. im pretty sure with such a big number of players nowadays, u can find plenty of volunteers to do the job properly TDG Recruitment
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:49:00 - [272] Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you.
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:50:00 - [273] Don..i dont think making any accounts of gms etc unable to join alliances is right. And no..im not a GM!Id imagine any abuse of power is quite easily traceable.And for sure, the mentality of BOB, we would not want to win by cheating. Id rather lose. Current RKK Ranking: ((AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:51:00 - [274] Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. Wow, did you think that up all by your self ? Grats Current RKK Ranking: ((AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:56:00 - [275] Originally by: Romulus Maximus Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. Wow, did you think that up all by your self ? Grats Nope, I learned from BoB
Scoundrelus Unseen Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:56:00 - [276] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Proof or stfu? Actually I can PROVE it. The proof is Censored -CCP and furthermore Censored -CCP has admitted to being a GM on your alliance. On top of that I have a fraps of you guys Censored -CCP. =============================================== We are Watching You.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:56:00 - [277] Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. You dont really get that 400+ BS kills is enough motivation for our blood thirsty troops right ? lol Molles "motivation" speech after the weekend was a pat on the back for a job well done, one simple evemail that ill even send to you if you want to see how a real leaders treat their members. No BoB CEO has ever treated anyone of us with anything but respect and for that they only get the members respect back. We save the propoganda for eve-o our members are smart enough to see through bull** like the blogs put infront of ASCN members. If anyone of your members believes youve hit a nerve with us or that your hurting us because your keeping the fight in our space ... think twice we are more then happy to entertain ourselves close to home, Its a first ill admit and im quite impressed that ASCN brought it to us. But trust me when i say that we are all happy and getting more and more motivated. ASCN may be a rich alliance ... but so are we and we can match anything you got. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon**
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:58:00 - [278] Originally by: Drakma Nope, I learned from BoB Nothing to be ashamed of there mate As fun as this isnt, im off to bed. o/ Oh, and what Kryztal said ^^^^ Current RKK Ranking: ((AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:02:00 - [279] Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Proof or stfu? Actually I can PROVE it. The proof is Censored -CCP and furthermore Censored -CCP has admitted to being a GM on your alliance. On top of that I have a fraps of you guys Censored -CCP. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Don ZOLA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:07:00 - [280] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Don ZOLA as i wrote in another thread bout gm issue : numerous times BOB (and some other alliances i guess) were blamed for having GMS, DEVS, ISD in their ranks. ofc not blamed just for having them but accuses r always that those ppl abuse their powers for alliance causes. imho ppl who work for ccp, no matter r they paid or volunteers shouldnt be able to join alliances and affect other ppls playing by abusing their powers. personally if i ever found that for example gm in corp A helped corp A to win a fight against my corp i would sue ccp... too much ppl is complaining on those things so i think best would be to make some collective petition to get such ppl (with normal and "power" accs) out of alliances. it would be hard and prolly some would try to remain on such positions and in their alliances but then simply find new ppl for such jobs. im pretty sure with such a big number of players nowadays, u can find plenty of volunteers to do the job properly The fact of the matter is there is no proof that a GM/Dev is abusing his power and if anyone has that proof i would urge them to contact ccp. Ive been in BoB for awhile and i can honestly say ive never seen it and ive never been slipped any info on anything from a GM/Dev. So proof before accusation please cos i have absolutly no problem with GM/DEV's playing in other alliances then BoB. i didnt accuse ur guys or anyone elses that they abuse powers, simply cuz i dont have any proofs for that. i just say ppl acccuse them. i can be or not be suspicious bout something but i aint gonna "attack" anyone without proofs. just said that when plenty of ppl talk bout it, it aint good for ccp if u know what i mean. so plz read carefuly before "attacking" me. as i said i would kick them all from all alliances so ppl dont have to think bout that :)

Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:10:00 - [281] Originally by: Don ZOLA Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Don ZOLA as i wrote in another thread bout gm issue : numerous times BOB (and some other alliances i guess) were blamed for having GMS, DEVS, ISD in their ranks. ofc not blamed just for having them but accuses r always that those ppl abuse their powers for alliance causes. imho ppl who work for ccp, no matter r they paid or volunteers shouldnt be able to join alliances and affect other ppls playing by abusing their powers. personally if i ever found that for example gm in corp A helped corp A to win a fight against my corp i would sue ccp... too much ppl is complaining on those things so i think best would be to make some collective petition to get such ppl (with normal and "power" accs) out of alliances. it would be hard and prolly some would try to remain on such positions and in their alliances but then simply find new ppl for such jobs. im pretty sure with such a big number of players nowadays, u can find plenty of volunteers to do the job properly The fact of the matter is there is no proof that a GM/Dev is abusing his power and if anyone has that proof i would urge them to contact ccp. Ive been in BoB for awhile and i can honestly say ive never seen it and ive never been slipped any info on anything from a GM/Dev. So proof before accusation please cos i have absolutly no problem with GM/DEV's playing in other alliances then BoB. i didnt accuse ur guys or anyone elses that they abuse powers, simply cuz i dont have any proofs for that. i just say ppl acccuse them. i can be or not be suspicious bout something but i aint gonna "attack" anyone without proofs. just said that when plenty of ppl talk bout it, it aint good for ccp if u know what i mean. so plz read carefuly before "attacking" me. as i said i would kick them all from all alliances so ppl dont have to think bout that :) Sorry hun, didnt mean to sound attackingly was more directed to the recent "threats" of exposing GM/Devs etc not you personally BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:14:00 - [282] Originally by: Drakma Nope, I tried to learn from BoB Fixed. Keep on learning, you are almost doing well. -- Nobody stays behind
Scoundrelus Unseen Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:21:00 - [283] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Proof or stfu? Actually I can PROVE it. The proof is Censored -CCP and furthermore Censored -CCP has admitted to being a GM on your alliance. On top of that I have a fraps of you guys Censored -CCP. Well I thought it was funny. =============================================== We are Watching You.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:10:00 - [284] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. You dont really get that 400+ BS kills is enough motivation for our blood thirsty troops right ? lol Molles "motivation" speech after the weekend was a pat on the back for a job well done, one simple evemail that ill even send to you if you want to see how a real leaders treat their members. No BoB CEO has ever treated anyone of us with anything but respect and for that they only get the members respect back. We save the propoganda for eve-o our members are smart enough to see through bull**** like the blogs put infront of ASCN members. If anyone of your members believes youve hit a nerve with us or that your hurting us because your keeping the fight in our space ... think twice we are more then happy to entertain ourselves close to home, Its a first ill admit and im quite impressed that ASCN brought it to us. But trust me when i say that we are all happy and getting more and more motivated. ASCN may be a rich alliance ... but so are we and we can match anything you got. My eyes, they bleed D: ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:13:00 - [285] Originally by: Kryztal ASCN may be a rich alliance ... but so are we and we can match anything you got. Flop your titan out for us then! Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:18:00 - [286] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. Proof or stfu? Point 1, is fact, its been admitted by many, formally, and in informal conversations. Of course other alliances have GM's also. Point 2, well ive never seen it myself. Out of people who log off to save pods, BoB seem to do it less than most. Point 3, could be proven if we were allowed to post GM communications (Petition responces) on the forums, so its fact, but CCP porevent us providing proof. Next youll be saying BoB cant shoot through PoS shields!!!! Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:25:00 - [287] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. Proof or stfu? Point 1, is fact, its been admitted by many, formally, and in informal conversations. Of course other alliances have GM's also. Point 2, well ive never seen it myself. Out of people who log off to save pods, BoB seem to do it less than most. Point 3, could be proven if we were allowed to post GM communications (Petition responces) on the forums, so its fact, but CCP porevent us providing proof. Next youll be saying BoB cant shoot through PoS shields!!!! Welcome to the xirtam world of 'facts'. Hearing rumors from other tinfoilasshats does not constitute as a fact
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:33:00 - [288] Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:34:55 Originally by: Lord Draco Welcome to the xirtam world of 'facts'. Hearing rumors from other tinfoilasshats does not constitute as a fact Being their first hand, does. Hearing it first hand, does. Seeing it first hand, does. Having the GM petition responce sitting in my petition list, does. Now try prove me wrong. No Xirtams were involved in the making of this post. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:37:00 - [289] Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:34:55 Originally by: Lord Draco Welcome to the xirtam world of 'facts'. Hearing rumors from other tinfoilasshats does not constitute as a fact Being their first hand, does. Hearing it first hand, does. Seeing it first hand, does. Having the GM petition responce sitting in my petition list, does. Now try prove me wrong. No Xirtams were involved in the making of this post. Feel free to pot some pictures because quite frankly I can't take your word for it. You claim to see stuff first hand, how about some evidence. I could make a whole host of unsubstantiated claims, but without evidence I'd look like you. null
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:39:00 - [290] BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. what employee would risk his job for a pc game, i know wi wouldnt in this times. if u encounter an bob pilot logging of his pod, send a mail to an director or ceo of him, i promise he will get punished. every single bob pilot hates lag, and we do not have an advantage from lag, so why would one copy bms to cause lag? thats plain stupid, and id like to see ur petition thingie, cause i dont believe u one word. let me tell that we would kill way more ascn if there wouldnt b lag, since lag makes -warp in sniping warp outs- way harder. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.

w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:40:00 - [291] Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:40:49 Originally by: Lord Draco Feel free to pot some pictures because quite frankly I can't take your word for it. You claim to see stuff first hand, how about some evidence. I could make a whole host of unsubstantiated claims, but without evidence I'd look like you. Unfortunately, as I stated before, I cannot provide evidence to Point 3, as the rules clearly state I am not allowed to. I would, if game rules would permit me. And point 1, are you seriously suggesting BoB has NO GM's in its midst? Because saying so will loose you any credibility you had. Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists [i]BOB has many GM's in the ranks. what employee would risk his job for a pc game, You dont read the forums then? Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:43:00 - [292] well, w9ormy, u cans end me a link via evemail, to hazrat izza ingame. if thats right ill come here and admit u were right. til that happens ppl will b better off not believeing u one word, its just plain stupid. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:49:00 - [293] Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:51:57 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists well, w9ormy, u cans end me a link via evemail, to hazrat izza ingame. if thats right ill come here and admit u were right. til that happens ppl will b better off not believeing u one word, its just plain stupid. Didnt a GM just get fired recently for cheating? It was all over the forums, remember? Oh thats right... No employee would risk their Job for a game would they! And if you cant use eve-search.com, it doesnt mean im wrong, it just means youve probably got fat fingers. edit: And for you trolls, at NO POINT have I suggested the GM's in bob cheat, simply facts made public: A: BoB like other alliances have GM members. B: GM's are people, and just like some people are criminals, some GM's will cheat. History has shown this. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:55:00 - [294] Originally by: w0rmy And point 1, are you seriously suggesting BoB has NO GM's in its midst? Because saying so will loose you any credibility you had. Oh I see, so I ask for some proof and you try turning it around on me. I don't know and don't care if bob does or doesnt have GM's or CCP employees in their ranks. It is a red herring. If they are playing with us, good for them, they can see what needs improvements from a game mechanic standpoint. Just don't try playing word games here. It is your responsibility to provide proof not conjecture since YOU made the accusation and insuniations. null
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:00:00 - [295] Originally by: Lord Draco Oh I see, so I ask for some proof and you try turning it around on me. I don't know and don't care if bob does or doesnt have GM's or CCP employees in their ranks. It is a red herring. If they are playing with us, good for them, they can see what needs improvements from a game mechanic standpoint. Just don't try playing word games here. It is your responsibility to provide proof not conjecture since YOU made the accusation and insuniations. What accusations did I make? BoB have GM members in their midst, just like many other alliances, its not an accusation, its a fact. You asking me for proof is either a thinly vailed attempt for me to proceed past the terms of the AUP, or its an incredibly niave comment on your behalf. You challenge me to prove it, hey well I challenge you to Deny it. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:05:00 - [296] I see all the nutters are coming out of the woodwork at the moment. Eve Blacklight Style
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:11:00 - [297] Originally by: Blacklight I see all the nutters are coming out of the woodwork at the moment. Pot, Kettle, why hello their fellow Nutter. To you sir, I extend a challenge that will stretch even your abilitys... Here it is: Post Constructively for once. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:18:00 - [298] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight I see all the nutters are coming out of the woodwork at the moment. Post Constructively for once. That was a constructive post. Better than most of the bullcrap you're writing. -----------------
CitzNo 097864 Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:29:00 - [299] lol goonies tbqh
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:52:00 - [300] Originally by: w0rmy What accusations did I make? BoB have GM members in their midst, just like many other alliances, its not an accusation, its a fact. You asking me for proof is either a thinly vailed attempt for me to proceed past the terms of the AUP, or its an incredibly niave comment on your behalf. You challenge me to prove it, hey well I challenge you to Deny it. Ok, so that may be true, HOWEVER, what the hell makes you think that any GM's player characters that may or may not be in BoB behave ANY differently than those who may or may not be in other alliances. What is giving you the delusion that BoB has some sort of magical advantage being given to us?



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