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Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:13:00 - [481] Originally by: IntegralHellsing ps. if we just went to TPAR and tried to hold pos there, it would have been impossible to protect at all. I think you just answered your own questions lol There is no diffrent between protecting pos in TCAG or TPAR at all.. The only one is what your leadership wants you to believe ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:19:00 - [482] Originally by: IntegralHellsing Quote: It's wholly uninteresting and worthless after all. hmm just a question. wasn't that what RA was saying about the systems they lost, before? sorry i have a terrible memory and i am still a n00b compared with other people. Quote: Don't you find it particularly funny and ironic how the one system ASCN now have gained sovereignty in is utterly useless and of no strategic importance ? Who knows? we had no solid ground to stand on in BoB territories. BoB could just camp TCAG all day and we would be hampered by the blob as there is only 1 way into the Period Basis area and that 1 way only means that it is easy to keep enemy out. Since we now have control of TCAG (for now...), we can now commense moving stuff into the POS. it would make deployment and recharging the gang force easily as you can just pop into the pos and collect your ships. better than jumping back and forth and sometimes get blown up by gate camp on the way back :P That is what AAA did to HF, although the only differences are that V2-VC2 has station and TCAG doesn't, but AAA could go into HF area easily without being stopped while ASCN had difficulties. also it makes sense, as BoB cannot also deploy forces fast enough. since bob's nearest station is 1 jump away, there is chance of getting caught up by gate camping. (which some BoB inties seemed happy about it.) how many times did bob get blown up trying to clear campers at TPAR gate in TCAG? how long did it take to organize a strategy that would work in theory? also, there are 4 ways (i think) to go to other BoB area. remember that some battles are now taking place outside TCAG and deep in BoB territories. we can now blow up bob industrials. this we were not able to do before. (which bob was able to do from ages ago against ASCN though ) If you have anything to talk about strategic importances, i can give you quite a lot of reason why we are holding onto it. but i'd rather not do that as it gives too much info of our next move. Quote: Don't you find it funny and ironic that this system in question is also the place where ASCN took the majority of the 1300+ losses they took in sieging TPAR and ending up with TCAG ? Yeah we lost ships. so what? we are not a good PvPers (which everyone can tell.) and so we are not good at fleet ops. everyone learns from the losses and mistakes. hell i lost 10 ships + pod in a row when i first started PvPing. (and lost 17 ships + pod while in ISS/HF cuz i didn't get to do some PvP at all.) still i managed to learn more about PvP, and even if i am not as good as any ordinary BoB pilots, i could still pop some ships and that i am proud of it at the moment. so why did we deploy at TCAG where we lost so many ships? because the number of ships lost are not important at the moment. what is important now is that we set foot in bob area for real, and we are ready to commense onto the next step. (not that i would know. but high commanders sure do ) ps. if we just went to TPAR and tried to hold pos there, it would have been impossible to protect at all. 1. bob controlled system between GQ2 and TPAR = people in TPAR cannot get out, and people in GQ2 have difficulties helping people in TPAR. by taking a doorstep of period basis we are now able to get and give help much more faster without much of interfering by bob. i will finish for now. if you have more questions or smacking to do, just don't hesitate to write. Cyvok jr. trying to make himself look more retarded than daddy?!? Btw better show your ticker or noone else will be able to laugh at the nonsense you just posted soon. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:20:00 - [483] Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 12/10/2006 05:50:16 CELES is a corporation that likes to think they are the best. If you talk the talk, you better walk the walk. Go conquer Delve. We will welcome you with open arms. Until then, we'll remember you as a corporation that keeps on making up reasons why they have been in EVE for 4 years and have nothing to call as an achievement. ("We didn't join the alliance tournament because it was designed for BoB to win. waa waa") Oh, sorry, I forgot. You're still the best though. I guess that's enough of an achievement for 4 years. You'll have to excuse us while we fight with the 2nd best alliance: ASCN. Yes, we think we are among the best at small fleet warfare. As is supported by the vast number of battle statistics on our killboard. However we do not profess to be the best at POS are warfare, industry, shoe making, the long jump, or any of that other gubbins, so it is quite irrelevant. As I have said so many times before, we judge our achievements by what happens on the battlefield. And if you would actually bother to look at the figures, you would know that we rarely lose a fleet fight (the summary of these can be seen on our killboard under the fleet section). So I don't understand why people keep accusing us of not being good at things we really don't give a damn about, or claim to be good at. Consistently beat is with similar numbers and we might think that you have achieved something. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
IntegralHellsing	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:26:00 - [484] well i am sure lots of you would laugh at me. but let's find out later to see who is right. ps. laughing at people without any factual knowledge of what is going to happen next will end you up in a death bed. so yeah do whatever you want, let it be trolling around or smirking at posts, but keep an eye on the war and see what happens next. because if i am right about what i wrote, i will be the one laughing at your face so hard that you wish you weren't born. ps2. i am only writing as a lowest ranked member of the ASCN alliance. so plz don't call me CYVOK jr just because you think all the ASCN talk like him
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:34:00 - [485] Edited by: Audrea on 12/10/2006 16:35:12 Originally by: IntegralHellsing well i am sure lots of you would laugh at me. but let's find out later to see who is right. ps. laughing at people without any factual knowledge of what is going to happen next will end you up in a death bed. so yeah do whatever you want, let it be trolling around or smirking at posts, but keep an eye on the war and see what happens next. because if i am right about what i wrote, i will be the one laughing at your face so hard that you wish you weren't born. ps2. i am only writing as a lowest ranked member of the ASCN alliance. so plz don't call me CYVOK jr just because you think all the ASCN talk like him tbh no one will remember, only you, the people who fought with you and against you, will remember the fun it was.. So just enjoy the war while it lasts PS: And on the forums too! ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:39:00 - [486] I thought this war was going to have minimal amounts of smack. BOY was I wrong. Why can't we just keep it civil? -- Originally by: Ghosthowl At what level can i PVP?
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:43:00 - [487] Originally by: Marcus Druallis I thought this war was going to have minimal amounts of smack. BOY was I wrong. Why can't we just keep it civil? Fun.
TheLast0ne THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:50:00 - [488] Edited by: TheLast0ne on 12/10/2006 16:52:32 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. I like Chicken
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:55:00 - [489] Originally by: IntegralHellsing well i am sure lots of you would laugh at me. but let's find out later to see who is right. ps. laughing at people without any factual knowledge of what is going to happen next will end you up in a death bed. so yeah do whatever you want, let it be trolling around or smirking at posts, but keep an eye on the war and see what happens next. because if i am right about what i wrote, i will be the one laughing at your face so hard that you wish you weren't born. ps2. i am only writing as a lowest ranked member of the ASCN alliance. so plz don't call me CYVOK jr just because you think all the ASCN talk like him Well first NOONE does KNOW what will happen. And trust me due to the fact that i have been living in both PB and PS for ages i know about strategical importance of the systems down there. Hell you can't even jump capitals into that POS from paragon without a cyno chain going through 5 regions. Blacklight has answered the question why the POS in tcag has not been downed yet(is "easier to defend") allready tbh. Last time it was Fix who removed one link from the cyno chain. I'll do my best to be there in time next time. Don't forget to bring new cyno ships and fuel though. And use better safespots or a station to store them! --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:04:00 - [490] Originally by: TheLast0ne Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. Not a very interesting reply tbh, but hey, at least it's something I guess. We started this war. We are fighting in Period Basis ? I thought we were fighting in AZN today actually, at least that's where we shot up another of your carriers isn't it ? Not that a single carrier kill will matter in the long run. What will matter is skill at warfare, stamina and unity. And believe me when I tell you we've got those, in portions quite larger then ASCN does. But hey, don't beleive me, hang on abit to find out for yourself. Old blog

Coniglietta Magica Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:04:00 - [491] Edited by: Coniglietta Magica on 12/10/2006 17:04:40 Does it look contested NOW ? ?
Coniglietta Magica Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:05:00 - [492] Does it look contested NOW?
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:07:00 - [493] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Does it look contested NOW? Haha. Let me put a small pos in some unoccupied system in feythabolis (if there are any) and let's discuss the status of feyth then shall we ? Don't be ridiculous. Old blog
Coniglietta Magica Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:09:00 - [494] Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war.
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:10:00 - [495] Edited by: End Yourself on 12/10/2006 17:10:27 Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Edited by: Coniglietta Magica on 12/10/2006 17:04:40 imagine screenshot here Does it look contested NOW ? ? the tcag system is contested... the sky is falling... Wake up. Open your eyes. That POS is an expensive safespot. Nothing more! Or just believe whatever crap your high command feeds you. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:10:00 - [496] Originally by: TheLast0ne Edited by: TheLast0ne on 12/10/2006 16:52:32 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. So if you were losing carriers for example in feyth.. would this this suddenly change your view? The war is still very young.. and you should fully expect it to take place all over both our areas.. we did gq2 for a bit, then azn.. lately it has been tcag.. you would be wiser to reguard."were next" as the interesting info >: )
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:11:00 - [497] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/10/2006 17:13:57 Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Get your rep to put that in the map thread then. As for Josh, he's neutral to us, that means we actually shoot him as a rule. If we don't then that's a personal decision taken because of his status as mapmaker. Old blog
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:25:00 - [498] Originally by: IntegralHellsing Quote: It's wholly uninteresting and worthless after all. hmm just a question. wasn't that what RA was saying about the systems they lost, before? sorry i have a terrible memory and i am still a n00b compared with other people. Quote: Don't you find it particularly funny and ironic how the one system ASCN now have gained sovereignty in is utterly useless and of no strategic importance ? Who knows? we had no solid ground to stand on in BoB territories. BoB could just camp TCAG all day and we would be hampered by the blob as there is only 1 way into the Period Basis area and that 1 way only means that it is easy to keep enemy out. Since we now have control of TCAG (for now...), we can now commense moving stuff into the POS. it would make deployment and recharging the gang force easily as you can just pop into the pos and collect your ships. better than jumping back and forth and sometimes get blown up by gate camp on the way back :P That is what AAA did to HF, although the only differences are that V2-VC2 has station and TCAG doesn't, but AAA could go into HF area easily without being stopped while ASCN had difficulties. also it makes sense, as BoB cannot also deploy forces fast enough. since bob's nearest station is 1 jump away, there is chance of getting caught up by gate camping. (which some BoB inties seemed happy about it.) how many times did bob get blown up trying to clear campers at TPAR gate in TCAG? how long did it take to organize a strategy that would work in theory? also, there are 4 ways (i think) to go to other BoB area. remember that some battles are now taking place outside TCAG and deep in BoB territories. we can now blow up bob industrials. this we were not able to do before. (which bob was able to do from ages ago against ASCN though ) If you have anything to talk about strategic importances, i can give you quite a lot of reason why we are holding onto it. but i'd rather not do that as it gives too much info of our next move. Quote: Don't you find it funny and ironic that this system in question is also the place where ASCN took the majority of the 1300+ losses they took in sieging TPAR and ending up with TCAG ? Yeah we lost ships. so what? we are not a good PvPers (which everyone can tell.) and so we are not good at fleet ops. everyone learns from the losses and mistakes. hell i lost 10 ships + pod in a row when i first started PvPing. (and lost 17 ships + pod while in ISS/HF cuz i didn't get to do some PvP at all.) still i managed to learn more about PvP, and even if i am not as good as any ordinary BoB pilots, i could still pop some ships and that i am proud of it at the moment. so why did we deploy at TCAG where we lost so many ships? because the number of ships lost are not important at the moment. what is important now is that we set foot in bob area for real, and we are ready to commense onto the next step. (not that i would know. but high commanders sure do ) ps. if we just went to TPAR and tried to hold pos there, it would have been impossible to protect at all. 1. bob controlled system between GQ2 and TPAR = people in TPAR cannot get out, and people in GQ2 have difficulties helping people in TPAR. by taking a doorstep of period basis we are now able to get and give help much more faster without much of interfering by bob. i will finish for now. if you have more questions or smacking to do, just don't hesitate to write. Good luck leaving anything lieing around in an ASCN pos, if it's not nailed down one of your trusted fellow members will walk off with it and sell it at the best price possible in Feythabolis.
TheLast0ne THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:26:00 - [499] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: TheLast0ne Edited by: TheLast0ne on 12/10/2006 16:52:32 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. So if you were losing carriers for example in feyth.. would this this suddenly change your view? The war is still very young.. and you should fully expect it to take place all over both our areas.. we did gq2 for a bit, then azn.. lately it has been tcag.. you would be wiser to reguard."were next" as the interesting info Just stating that your propaganda makes u guys look kinda dumb. But you can keep puting it out while were sitting in ur back yard having a BBQ. I like Chicken
IntegralHellsing Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:34:00 - [500] Originally by: Dark Matter Good luck leaving anything lieing around in an ASCN pos, if it's not nailed down one of your trusted fellow members will walk off with it and sell it at the best price possible in Feythabolis. oh yeah... forgot about that. thanks for the info ps. don't know how HF managed to keep any ships in POS at all. people in HF had good hearts not to steal other people's ship i guess In the Deepest Shadows of Darkness, I give Hope. In the Highest Bright of Light, I give Fear. I am a Being of Balanced Life. I am an Angel and Demon. I am an Ascendant and Fallen. I am a Human.

Gabriel BriGGs Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:35:00 - [501] ha, kinda fun to see bob and ascn doin the forum thing on eachother.usually it was g/iron/d2 vs bob/ascn on the boards ^^ i was down south for a week and dindt even know there was a war going on :O
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:36:00 - [502] Originally by: TheLast0ne Just stating that your propaganda makes u guys look kinda dumb. But you can keep puting it out while were sitting in ur back yard having a BBQ. Reading the loss section of your KB its not you who are having a bbq its more like you are served at one...
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:40:00 - [503] Edited by: Audrea on 12/10/2006 17:40:24 Originally by: IntegralHellsing Originally by: Dark Matter Good luck leaving anything lieing around in an ASCN pos, if it's not nailed down one of your trusted fellow members will walk off with it and sell it at the best price possible in Feythabolis. oh yeah... forgot about that. thanks for the info ps. don't know how HF managed to keep any ships in POS at all. people in HF had good hearts not to steal other people's ship i guess We didnt. At first we had force field open to alliance, and after several incidents, we had no choise but close down the force fields of private POSes. To these pos only trusted friends of that corp had the passwords. I participated in many battles, and not once we had POS where whole alliance would leave ships floating 99% of the alliances cant trust on their memebers not to take other's ships, thats why it cant be really done. ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
Serret Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:45:00 - [504] Edited by: Serret on 12/10/2006 17:45:23 Originally by: TheLast0ne Just stating that your propaganda makes u guys look kinda dumb. But you can keep puting it out while were sitting in ur back yard having a BBQ. I like Chicken Especially dumb when it's your chicken that's being roasted. -- <Deathwing> just say Amarr pwn cause DW is Amarr
Falco Sparverius Gallente THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:46:00 - [505] All of these posts are pointless. The only thing that matters is what happens in game. Words are just that -- words, and they have no bearing whatsoever on the game. Whatever either side says, there is still a long way to go in this war, and noone really knows what the end result will be. All we can do as players is play the game as best we can and have fun, which I intend to continue doing as a member of ASCN for as long as I am able. --- Cry CYVOK and let slip the ducks of war!
IntegralHellsing Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:50:00 - [506] Originally by: Gabriel BriGGs ha, kinda fun to see bob and ascn doin the forum thing on eachother.usually it was g/iron/d2 vs bob/ascn on the boards ^^ You see, yesterday's friends became today's enemy. In the Deepest Shadows of Darkness, I give Hope. In the Highest Bright of Light, I give Fear. I am a Being of Balanced Life. I am an Angel and Demon. I am an Ascendant and Fallen. I am a Human.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:52:00 - [507] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Correction, Sov on a station system. Claiming some random corner of the universe nobody really cares anout using a POS doesnt count. Of course... bob is once again late with mailing me my check so i am of course open to employment suggestions... ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:00:00 - [508] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Correction, Sov on a station system. Claiming some random corner of the universe nobody really cares anout using a POS doesnt count. Of course... bob is once again late with mailing me my check so i am of course open to employment suggestions... Cheque in the post including 10% bonus as an apology for late payment, leaving Dian in charge of alliance finances for the lose
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:02:00 - [509] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 12/10/2006 18:03:51 Dont let it happen again, theres obviously plenty of people interested in your space... They seem rich too... ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:12:00 - [510] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. This is a funny comment. I've done nothing since the map began except report exactly what is happening whether it be good or bad for BoB. From the taking over of Venal to the loss of Outer Ring and the list goes on and on and on. The ASCN report I made was correct at the time, even stating that ps shouldn't have been contested which it had been accidentally. Of course the ASCN dudes ignored my post and then spilled another page of OMG BIAS against the map reporter without justification. Furthermore, at no point has your elected delegate put forward factual evidence in tardy fashion about what is actually happening in the war. If I didn't know better I'd say that he was simply not playing the game and listening to rumours of what ASCN are supposed to be doing instead of what is actually happening in the war. Basically, if you want the map to be reported correctly then get someone to report the actual happenings in this war. If that is done then I'll happily back up their report providing I agree with the situation. But don't even begin to think about trying to do as every other alliance seems to do when they are losing territory which is flame and abuse the map reporter for reporting with the information backed up with Killboard, Fraps, ingame Sov facts he is given by us. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto



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