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Raging Lissa	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:03:00 - [391] Sorry to disappoint but i'm not an ascn alt, it would be great if i was because then you could ignore the fact that you couldnt keep a little nooblet like me out of your space, but since ascn was podding me in "your" space maybe you should be worried afterall.
BadManEdmundo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:08:00 - [392] Originally by: Raging Lissa Sorry to disappoint but i'm not an ascn alt, it would be great if i was because then you could ignore the fact that you couldnt keep a little nooblet like me out of your space, but since ascn was podding me in "your" space maybe you should be worried afterall. Why? Insignificant little twerps don't pop up on my Radar. And I doubt anybody is going to start a hunting gang for a shuttle. Learn how it works before opening your mouth, mind there are people who having been playing for years who can't follow that advice, I'm sure youÆll fit right in.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:10:00 - [393] The fact that most of us fly with shuttles and rookies ships removed from our overvies must really hurt these alty mc alts.
Raging Lissa	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:17:00 - [394] wow, well i sure just picked a side in the war. thanks for the warm welcome to eve, and i would encourage you to not worry about little old me in my shuttle, i mean, what could i do? pass info to ascn about your locations and movements? Well i'm sure you're such a tactical genius that it wont matter. God forbid someone post honest observations in a public forum, is this where you send the secret police after me in real life? I hope they slaughter you.
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:22:00 - [395] Originally by: Raging Lissa wow, well i sure just picked a side in the war. thanks for the warm welcome to eve, and i would encourage you to not worry about little old me in my shuttle, i mean, what could i do? pass info to ascn about your locations and movements? Well i'm sure you're such a tactical genius that it wont matter. God forbid someone post honest observations in a public forum, is this where you send the secret police after me in real life? I hope they slaughter you. You need your corp showing to post in here, go to the forum settings and change it. And this is sooooo gonna get snipped I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:32:00 - [396] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 15:33:19 .. well it seems to me judging from the drivel being spouted by ASCN leadership, that it is the beginning of the end... ASCN will fall. Its just a matter of time now...its a shame because they could have been the big equalizer in the South. I guess nobody knew that the command structure was rotten from within. Mind you..... I've had Cyvok lie to my face when I was a FIX JCoS, during the North vs South period. It was a pretty big lie. I can't say I am overly surprised by anything BoB says about their leadership.
Reite Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:32:00 - [397] Originally by: Raging Lissa wow, well i sure just picked a side in the war. thanks for the warm welcome to eve, and i would encourage you to not worry about little old me in my shuttle, i mean, what could i do? pass info to ascn about your locations and movements? Well i'm sure you're such a tactical genius that it wont matter. God forbid someone post honest observations in a public forum, is this where you send the secret police after me in real life? I hope they slaughter you. Please dont pretend that you hadnt allready picked ur side when u first posted in this thread..
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:45:00 - [398] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 15:33:19 .. well it seems to me judging from the drivel being spouted by ASCN leadership, that it is the beginning of the end... ASCN will fall. Its just a matter of time now...its a shame because they could have been the big equalizer in the South. I guess nobody knew that the command structure was rotten from within. Mind you..... I've had Cyvok lie to my face when I was a FIX JCoS, during the North vs South period. It was a pretty big lie. I can't say I am overly surprised by anything BoB says about their leadership. lol ASCN havent lost a single system. BoB have not stated they wish to take a single system. So how have you come to the radical conclusion that they will fall? I think you're getting a little over excited about nothing in particular. Calm down
Captain Nephi	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:46:00 - [399] snip Please post with your main -Eldo
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:49:00 - [400] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 15:33:19 .. well it seems to me judging from the drivel being spouted by ASCN leadership, that it is the beginning of the end... thats nothing new, back in the days G was accused by ASCN-UBER-INTEL-Cyvok (via Alliance Mail, lol) that they are griefers, exploiters and ebil macrominers -------------------------------- Spain ftw!

Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:52:00 - [401] Nez, you keep taking the word of a stranger over another stranger? You know this guys (by CYVOK/and the BoB`s)? In person? Dude, if you have something against ASCN, just say it, and keep posting. You have the corp ticket, so you can post all you want. I personally enjoy your posts, even though it`s obvious you are biased (said as respectfully as possible) Yeah, sure ASCN PR is non-existant. But, damn, just say what you REALLY want! Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Dude, it`s a game. And if all this posters have shown us something is exactly that: It`s a game. So as it is a game, you are free to do anything it takes to win. On a side-note, what you though when BOB said they had no TS spies? I actually believed it, honest. (asking because I did not saw your response when it was shown it was not true) I know this post may sound anti-BOB... and it is. Sorta. I just don`t like the extremes. It`s a funny game with spaceships who capitalizes on Star Wars/Sci Fi fans or people take it too seriously (like the Trekkies, damn them)? ¿Seen¿ people from both sides of the ¿conflict¿ talking ****, so I guess both sides have their stupid share of people. That is as neutral I can be. Considering the amount of crapload of crapload of crapload of stupidities I keep reading here from some... posters, that is a miracle.
Reite Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:59:00 - [402] Originally by: Rikeka Nez, you keep taking the word of a stranger over another stranger? You know this guys (by CYVOK/and the BoB`s)? In person? Dude, if you have something against ASCN, just say it, and keep posting. You have the corp ticket, so you can post all you want. I personally enjoy your posts, even though it`s obvious you are biased (said as respectfully as possible) Yeah, sure ASCN PR is non-existant. But, damn, just say what you REALLY want! Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Dude, it`s a game. And if all this posters have shown us something is exactly that: It`s a game. So as it is a game, you are free to do anything it takes to win. On a side-note, what you though when BOB said they had no TS spies? I actually believed it, honest. (asking because I did not saw your response when it was shown it was not true) I know this post may sound anti-BOB... and it is. Sorta. I just don`t like the extremes. It`s a funny game with spaceships who capitalizes on Star Wars/Sci Fi fans or people take it too seriously (like the Trekkies, damn them)? ¿Seen¿ people from both sides of the ¿conflict¿ talking ****, so I guess both sides have their stupid share of people. That is as neutral I can be. Considering the amount of crapload of crapload of crapload of stupidities I keep reading here from some... posters, that is a miracle. Come on. Its not like you guys got a much bigger numbers of biased people who are flaming bob in every thread for every reason they can think off. Like butter dog.
Raging Lissa Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:59:00 - [403] Eido, This is my main!
PhannJodoxis Minmatar Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:59:00 - [404] When I returned to this game not too long ago I didnt even who BoB was. Through the actions of many of BoB's most visible members it has not be difficult to learn to dispise them. This great annomosity for BoB hinges in No way on the 'propaganda' of ASCN leadership. Hence, BoB's constant attempts to interject its views into ASCN's internal dialog, so that the 4k ASCN members see both sides to the story, has no bearing on my heart felt disgust for BoB's modus operandi. Yes, your arrogance and endless propoganda etc. has been enough to accomplish that. As to the content of ASCN's internal dialog: There is much reason in it. You do not wish to see events from our perspective, and that is fine... but, for example, nodes HAVE gone down and BoB HAS eliminated many of our ships upon us logging back in. Did BoB bring down the node to facilitate said end? No, imo. Yet, that kind of internal conversation has little impact on anything. Rank and file ASCN members like me really like ASCN, we do not like BoB, we were aggressed, and we are fighting back. And of course we are ****ed off when we log in multiple times to get picked apart by the BoB already sitting there. Of course ASCN leadership is going to address those losses, and truthfully say hey, keep fighting that was all bull#$%^. Why is this internal dialog bothering BoB so much? Honestly I dont think it is. BoB see it as merely fuel for more of their public propoganda ends - and we all know the rest. Regarding the ASCN leadership. Acting upon standard elementary propoganda BoB seeks to convince the entire EVE community that because "they are laughing" at these guys, everyone else including the ASCN membership should also not be taking them seriously. Wouldnt that be a nice if ASCN members didnt listen to their leaders? Oh, wouldnt that help BoB? There is a surprise. Guess what, we have nothing but respect for our high command. ASCN is very strong in all of the many areas it has focused on in large part thanks to these guys. There is absolutely no reason for me explain further.. the fact is there are no doubts that we will continue rolling gladly. This has been good.
ceaon Gallente Porandor	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:09:00 - [405] Edited by: ceaon on 11/10/2006 16:09:12 Originally by: Raging Lissa Eido, This is my main! the rule dunno if u get it but u from a NPC corp and the NPC corps belong to a empire and here is player alliance/corp forum only kill alt post thx
Cmd Groz The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:17:00 - [406] I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No, it isn't. It's a shame you weren't around for the GNW, BD, because what you've seen so far is kindergarten stuff in comparison. CCP allowed it then and they will allow it now. It was just as valid then, as it is now and, what's even more funny, is that many in ASCN applauded the tactic at the time - yet now they lambast and are surprised BoB still do it because it is directed at them? Hypocrisy ftw. So....I guess this is a Admission that BOB does use node crashes as a tactic in battle?
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:18:00 - [407] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 16:19:24 Originally by: Rikeka Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Tbh I don't really care wether BoB win or not... and until this war started I wouldn't have minded if ASCN had taken BoB out....I think its nice what ASCN have built in the south.. all those outposts etc.. etc.. but... Cyvok saying that he would crash nodes to save his bacon.. (although later retracted), the horrendous JohnMcreedy blogs we saw a glimpse of when the war just started.. and now further blogs of Cyvok and John writing off their military failure in Tpar to the fact that BoB pilots have no RL and that they are exploiting.. is frankly a disgrace. And if that is what the leadership is like..then ASCN isnt a beacon of light in deep 0.0, it is not an entity that new players should be looking up to as the biggest alliance in the game. Cyvok and co. by the tone of what has been said by, are breeding a rat ship in the south. And its going to sink...BoB or no BoB.
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:22:00 - [408] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Rikeka Nez, you keep taking the word of a stranger over another stranger? You know this guys (by CYVOK/and the BoB`s)? In person? Dude, if you have something against ASCN, just say it, and keep posting. You have the corp ticket, so you can post all you want. I personally enjoy your posts, even though it`s obvious you are biased (said as respectfully as possible) Yeah, sure ASCN PR is non-existant. But, damn, just say what you REALLY want! Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Dude, it`s a game. And if all this posters have shown us something is exactly that: It`s a game. So as it is a game, you are free to do anything it takes to win. On a side-note, what you though when BOB said they had no TS spies? I actually believed it, honest. (asking because I did not saw your response when it was shown it was not true) I know this post may sound anti-BOB... and it is. Sorta. I just don`t like the extremes. It`s a funny game with spaceships who capitalizes on Star Wars/Sci Fi fans or people take it too seriously (like the Trekkies, damn them)? ¿Seen¿ people from both sides of the ¿conflict¿ talking ****, so I guess both sides have their stupid share of people. That is as neutral I can be. Considering the amount of crapload of crapload of crapload of stupidities I keep reading here from some... posters, that is a miracle. Come on. Its not like you guys got a much bigger numbers of biased people who are flaming bob in every thread for every reason they can think off. Like butter dog. Touche. On my defense, I DID said that both sides suck on their PR. Butter Dog, dude. Thanks. But no thanks. Let it die. I even agree with some of the stuff you said. And yes, I hate it when they reply with just one sentence, they think they`ve have answered the question, and the eve-community throws them their women. But if you know you are right, leave it like that. Please, let this issue die. Hell, let them just talk between themselves.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:22:00 - [409] Originally by: Cmd Groz I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No, it isn't. It's a shame you weren't around for the GNW, BD, because what you've seen so far is kindergarten stuff in comparison. CCP allowed it then and they will allow it now. It was just as valid then, as it is now and, what's even more funny, is that many in ASCN applauded the tactic at the time - yet now they lambast and are surprised BoB still do it because it is directed at them? Hypocrisy ftw. ----------------------- So....I guess this is a Admission that BOB does use node crashes as a tactic in battle? Eerh, no ? Do I have to explain the english language to you ? "No it isn't" refers to the earlier posted "Its fairly harmless", and "CCP allowed it" would be referring to us taking apart ASCN internal lunacy on these forums instead of in private. There's no reference to node crashes or sploits in there. But then again, some of you guys seem to ahve remarkable abilities when it comes to drawing baseless conclusions, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Old blog
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:26:00 - [410] ... and also ASCN told a bareface lie on the map thread about Period Basis being contested via their respresentative ... SamuraiJack... and that REALLY ****es me off....

R'adeh Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:46:00 - [411] Originally by: Nez Perces ... and also ASCN told a bareface lie on the map thread about Period Basis being contested via their respresentative ... SamuraiJack... and that REALLY ****es me off.... Here, have a tissue So PB isn't contested...but Paragon Soul is? BoB coming to PS ends up with PS showing as contested, ASCN coming to PB doesn't? Great logic Not that I care about maps 'n stuff, I'm more into women... __________________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp. Please show mercy Drakma!
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:48:00 - [412] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 16:19:24 Originally by: Rikeka Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Tbh I don't really care wether BoB win or not... and until this war started I wouldn't have minded if ASCN had taken BoB out....I think its nice what ASCN have built in the south.. all those outposts etc.. etc.. but... Cyvok saying that he would crash nodes to save his bacon.. (although later retracted), the horrendous JohnMcreedy blogs we saw a glimpse of when the war just started.. and now further blogs of Cyvok and John writing off their military failure in Tpar to the fact that BoB pilots have no RL and that they are exploiting.. is frankly a disgrace. And if that is what the leadership is like..then ASCN isnt a beacon of light in deep 0.0, it is not an entity that new players should be looking up to as the biggest alliance in the game. Cyvok and co. by the tone of what has been said by, are breeding a rat ship in the south. And its going to sink...BoB or no BoB. So you actually don`t like how they (as ASCN) handle their matters? Their own matters? Again, do you take for granted whatever BOB says? Because, I mean, I hope you have access to the ASCN forums and read all that for yourself. Not saying that stuff exist or does not exist. CYVOK could have very deleted the whole thing, come here and say: CYVOK: That does not exist. Blacklight: Yes it does, here it is... Oh checks was deleted CYVOK: See? Blacklight: You took it out! Cheater! CYVOK: jedi mind trick LOL, just for fun. Anyway, had this happened who would you have believed? They are strangers to you. Honestly, I DO think you have made up your mind about ASCN, and nothing I do/say will change that. Fine, as I enjoy writing this crap on this crap section of this crappy forum as much as you do. If there`s one thing I totally disagree with you it`s on the ¿People, fight only 20 vs 20 battles and that will help the community!¿ Commendable, but impractical. Better nerf alliances, only let them have 200 members top! Damn... sidetracked. Sorry. Anyway, you`ve been on ASCN back since then. Now I hear you have something from CYVOK, from 6 moths ago? (read it somewhere, dunno)... Look, jusr repeat with me: I HATE ASCN I HATE CYVOK! ASCN`S FAULT THE COMMUNITY CAN`T PLAY THE GAME! I HATE ASCN! I HATE CYVOK! ASCN`S FAULT THE... and so on. Will repeat my mantra in the meantime: I HATE BOB! STAR WARS OWN STAR TREK! KHAAAAAAAAAAN! I JOINED DOGBERT`S NEWSLETTER FOR THE ELITE! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I HATE THE PEOPLE THAT TAKE A GAME TOO SERIOUSLY, HATE IT MORE WHEN THEY LIE TO ME IN THE FACE! I HATE THAT ASCN HAS NOT UPGRADED THEIR FORUMS AND THEIR TS AS THEIR IS A WAY THEY CAN AVOID BOB SPIES BY ASKING CCP mumble, mumble... IN THE MEANTIME; WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE NAME OF THE NOOBIE LAWYER WHO SAID THE STUPID THING ABOUT VIRTUAL OWNERSHIP WHEN THIS FIRST HAPPENED... Disclaimer: Damn, forget that last part as I`m not really sure nor serious about it Anyway, hope to see you more of your interesting points of view on matters that deserve true grey matter, and not quake-like fingers as many here seem to have... Mind you, on my firm we play Quake, associates against partners. There`s no age for Quake (unless you have arthritis) (sp?)
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:49:00 - [413] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 16:50:29 Originally by: R'adeh Here, have a tissue So PB isn't contested...but Paragon Soul is? BoB coming to PS ends up with PS showing as contested, ASCN coming to PB doesn't? Great logic Not that I care about maps 'n stuff, I'm more into women... look you baffoon.... when Paragon Soul got contested by mistake.. it was pointed out to Joshua.. infact Dbpreacher confirmed it also and said that there was no contesting going on in PS. Joshua jumped the gun slightly and it got corrected... now remove your foot from your mouth, it must be very hairy.. seeing as you are a hobbit and all... [edit:typo]
BadManEdmundo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:49:00 - [414] Originally by: R'adeh So PB isn't contested...but Paragon Soul is? BoB coming to PS ends up with PS showing as contested, ASCN coming to PB doesn't? Great logic Not that I care about maps 'n stuff, I'm more into women... Paragon Soul is contested, where does it say that?
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:50:00 - [415] Edited by: Rikeka on 11/10/2006 16:51:43 Originally by: Nez Perces ... and also ASCN told a bareface lie on the map thread about Period Basis being contested via their respresentative ... SamuraiJack... and that REALLY ****es me off.... Looks for BOB`s POS in PS, to further correct the map, of course. Nez here will help me on be fair for both sides, right? [EDIT]Checks the issue was cleared, but as I never edit what I write, this stays[EDIT]
HuDDy Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:52:00 - [416] Quote: ASCN havent lost a single system. BoB have not stated they wish to take a single system. So how have you come to the radical conclusion that they will fall? I think you're getting a little over excited about nothing in particular. Calm down Butter have u ever been in a alliance v alliance War YOURSELF? most conflicts end because the other sides morale breaks not because of not bein able to field fleets of bs or because u have no stations left. And i know for a fact Nez knows alot about this being once a high rankin memeber of Fix's Council and a JCOS and havin taken part in many conflicts how about u?
Earthan Gallente GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:13:00 - [417] No idea about your war guys but been browsing this thread to read all the bob star wars sigs, lol great stuff bob. - A knight in space,war veteran,Grey Council military officer. Grey Council webpage
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:16:00 - [418] Edited by: CLEISTHENES2 on 11/10/2006 17:16:04 Originally by: Earthan No idea about your war guys but been browsing this thread to read all the bob star wars sigs, lol great stuff bob. Earthan <3. Long time no see, when you coming to the Dark Side .
Earthan Gallente GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:19:00 - [419] Edited by: Earthan on 11/10/2006 17:20:17 hi clesit thanks say hi to all BNC from me. anyway not derailing this thread anymore, continue your forums wars plz:) - A knight in space,war veteran,Grey Council military officer. Grey Council webpage
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:21:00 - [420] Can I be included in your Delusional Leaders List? Us Delusional Leaders need to stick together. By the way, you BoB posters are funny.



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