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Abriana Overlord Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:05:00 - [361] Quote: The good news is that even with heave rotation we maintain decent numbers across all time zones. The bad news is that RL has a nasty way of benefiting QuakeKiddies that live with MoM or are unemployed. A note to the dillusional Mr.Cyvok A most interesting way of describing us in BOB Myself being happily married, having three children, working 60+ hours per week as a Programme Manager, spending loads of quality time with my family and maintaining an active social life while still maintaining a high kill ratio against ASCN pilots in this game is rather amusing. I am so glad I fit in to your highly accurate stereotyping cough
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:06:00 - [362] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/10/2006 12:07:23 Originally by: Rod Blaine Hell, these aren't baseless accusaitons, they are rampant paranoid delusions. At least they are on a private board. Say what you like about ASCN, but they don't rake the muck on a public board like you guys do. Thats why pretty much everyone reading these threads has far more respect for ASCN's forum conduct than that of your alliance. Don't get me wrong, I love these flame fests, they are great fun. But for me, the point of gaining inside intelligence on an foe is NOT to then drag it all over a public forum, but to put it to use in game in an honourable and effective way. For all your claims and protests of being honourable, you do a remarkably poor job of proving it with threads like this.
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:06:00 - [363] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board!
Ian Novarider Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:11:00 - [364] \me logs into this thread \me smiles at all the funny sigs in this thread \me laughs about all the BoB posters talking to each other most of the time \me logs back into the game Have fun - we do ;-) Ian Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:12:00 - [365] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Strange, because I've NEVER heard intel from your TS server since I've been PVPing in ASCN and thats been quite a while. FACT my friend, WE DON'T DO IT! You do it as official policy. Just accept the fact that you need the out of game advantage to fight. Anything you can do to get an unfair match up. Are you an FC? Why would they tell you? We don't broadcast TS intel to our general members. Spying has been done by all major alliances since Eve went live. If you honestly think ASCN do not spy on other alliances (not just BoB!) I think you're being a bit naive.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:20:00 - [366] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 12:20:37 Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/10/2006 12:07:23 Originally by: Rod Blaine Hell, these aren't baseless accusaitons, they are rampant paranoid delusions. At least they are on a private board. Say what you like about ASCN, but they don't rake the muck on a public board like you guys do. Thats why pretty much everyone reading these threads has far more respect for ASCN's forum conduct than that of your alliance. Which, if true, can be attributed to what exactly ? Oh yes, to the fact that the drivel they come up with only makes it onto here when we quote it. That doesn't however mean that it doesn't exist, nor that it isn't unacceptable behaviour. A question, do you think it is wrong of us to take serious accusations against us and CCP such as have been voiced on their forums by their leaders, in all seriousness, and respond to them in this other private forum that's in part being read by the same audience as theirs is ? ASCN is large, many new as well as older players are part of it. Don't you think it is morally acceptable to counter outright lying propaganda such as posted by Mccreedy and Cyvok even if the source where you got it isn't entirely clean ? And isn't it true that in order to counter it, you often have to show it in a different setting for it to be seen as the nonsense it is ? Old blog
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:23:00 - [367] Originally by: Rod Blaine ASCN is large, many new as well as older players are part of it. Don't you think it is morally acceptable to counter outright lying propaganda such as posted by Mccreedy and Cyvok even if the source where you got it isn't entirely clean ? And isn't it true that in order to counter it, you often have to show it in a different setting for it to be seen as the nonsense it is ? I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:28:00 - [368] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rod Blaine ASCN is large, many new as well as older players are part of it. Don't you think it is morally acceptable to counter outright lying propaganda such as posted by Mccreedy and Cyvok even if the source where you got it isn't entirely clean ? And isn't it true that in order to counter it, you often have to show it in a different setting for it to be seen as the nonsense it is ? I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. No, it isn't. It's a shame you weren't around for the GNW, BD, because what you've seen so far is kindergarten stuff in comparison. CCP allowed it then and they will allow it now. It was just as valid then, as it is now and, what's even more funny, is that many in ASCN applauded the tactic at the time - yet now they lambast and are surprised BoB still do it because it is directed at them? Hypocrisy ftw.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:29:00 - [369] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 12:07:46 Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 12:03:08 Quote: wow then, how do you think CYVOK gets his great intel then? Or is it maybe made up? the more I think of it the latter seems more plausible. OK, ASCN doesent use spies Razz would explain alot tbh There could be a million ways to get intel but I've never seen CYVOK posting up internal communication ANYWHERE where he was not allowed. The MAJOR issue is Teamspeak. The simple fact is YOU use spies, we don't. You feel the need to have this advantage yet we do not. As the war goes on, you remember that. Quote: LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Fact #2 We had a spy on TS when someone from ASCN was reading up the Channel Commanders and numbers from our TS. So how on earth are we playing any more "unfair" then you ? I mean dont fault us for actually having better spies then you :P No big secret that we use spies, everyone in EvE that knows BoB knows it. How on earth do you think the EC-P8R op happened ? Because of spies. ASCN had no problems with it then so get over yourself :P Your just **ed because its beeing aimed at you now thats all. Strange, because I've NEVER heard intel from your TS server since I've been PVPing in ASCN and thats been quite a while. FACT my friend, WE DON'T DO IT! You do it as official policy. Just accept the fact that you need the out of game advantage to fight. Anything you can do to get an unfair match up. LoL only means your not important enough to know it, and i was on TS when it was said so spin another lie plz :P Just drop the innocent act and stop whining about how unfair it is. The game mechanics are there for you as well .. Not our fault your crap at it. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon**
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:29:00 - [370] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 12:31:07 Originally by: Butter Dog I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. I don't think an alliance of 4000+ members has just one opinon does it ? Cyvok may post on private forums used by one alliance, but there's still the 4000 members there, making it far from "keeping his opinion private". And it is HIS opinion, not that of ASCN. Propaganda is never private. That's the deal. You post delusional lies, we get to quote and walk all over them here. that's simply how we do things, and I see nothing at all wrong with it. Old blog

Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:33:00 - [371] Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board! I would if i had access to your forums, i think it was in one of cyvoks blogs, there are so many of them and so loooooong but it was a few weeks back. It was either that or some other forum, i honestly cant remember as it wasnt really a big blow, we adapted and we've always worked with the fact there are spies in bob :P BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:38:00 - [372] Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 12:39:53 Quote: LoL only means your not important enough to know it, and i was on TS when it was said so spin another lie plz :P Just drop the innocent act and stop whining about how unfair it is. The game mechanics are there for you as well .. Not our fault your crap at it. It is amusing though. You REALLY needed ASCN to go down to your level to make it all look rosy. I mean, imagine if BOB were the only ones fighting fleet battles without teamspeak spies. That would be bad PR! Geez, imagine if people accused BOB of using an out of game advantage to get kills on the eve forums! The PR nightmare. Hmm..let see..AH I got it! ASCN must do it too. Yes..They must! Really.. Utter desperation. Whatever fellas, I know very well what happens in my gangs. As with my original point, I'm sorry but I still am cynical about associating BOB with fair play. Signing out.
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:43:00 - [373] Edited by: Weebear on 11/10/2006 12:43:25 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Kryztal LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board! I would if i had access to your forums, i think it was in one of cyvoks blogs, there are so many of them and so loooooong but it was a few weeks back. It was either that or some other forum, i honestly cant remember as it wasnt really a big blow, we adapted and we've always worked with the fact there are spies in bob :P So it could have been the ASCN forum but could have been some other one, and if it was another one, it was likely not even Cyvok? Cool, I love your definition of FACT!
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:46:00 - [374] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh It is amusing though. You REALLY needed ASCN to go down to your level to make it all look rosy. I mean, imagine if BOB were the only ones fighting fleet battles without teamspeak spies. That would be bad PR! Geez, imagine if people accused BOB of using an out of game advantage to get kills on the eve forums! The PR nightmare. Hmm..let see..AH I got it! ASCN must do it too. Yes..They must! Really.. Utter desperation. Whatever fellas, I know very well what happens in my gangs. As with my original point, I'm sorry but I still am cynical about associating BOB with fair play. Signing out. It is of course your right to believe we're lying. I'll say it again though. If you think ASCN do not spy on other alliances you are being naive.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:59:00 - [375] Originally by: Weebear Edited by: Weebear on 11/10/2006 12:43:25 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Kryztal LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board! I would if i had access to your forums, i think it was in one of cyvoks blogs, there are so many of them and so loooooong but it was a few weeks back. It was either that or some other forum, i honestly cant remember as it wasnt really a big blow, we adapted and we've always worked with the fact there are spies in bob :P So it could have been the ASCN forum but could have been some other one, and if it was another one, it was likely not even Cyvok? Cool, I love your definition of FACT! LoL omg way to try and twist it, I told you that Cyvok got info from our Forums where he posted it i cant remember. One of our spies qouted it and showed us the stuff, that spy didnt have access to the intel in question from our forums so im quite sure that he wasnt lying as he showed us the screenshots. That beeing said, i really dont care what you guys think i just found it to be hillarious that you think we play unfair when your own leaders do the same. Let the fighting continue ! BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:09:00 - [376] Originally by: Kryztal LoL omg way to try and twist it, I told you that Cyvok got info from our Forums where he posted it i cant remember. One of our spies qouted it and showed us the stuff, that spy didnt have access to the intel in question from our forums so im quite sure that he wasnt lying as he showed us the screenshots. That beeing said, i really dont care what you guys think i just found it to be hillarious that you think we play unfair when your own leaders do the same. Let the fighting continue ! What can I say, I'm learning from the best both in and out of game BTW: If you let me know the spy's name, I'll check the threads he was viewing and let you know what it was....
Wulfgard Minmatar The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:10:00 - [377] Lately, these threads have became increasingly boring. You attempt at propaganda is only working on the weak minded. If we lose a few lemmings to your work, then good for us I wonder What happened to your magic spoon from the FA days, you used to spin it with great skills, now you can't deal with these simple facts: - You are the aggressor, but what have you conquered so far? - We are fighting in your home turf - Your offensive has lost its momentum and you are busy playing defense - You won't break ASCN moral by posting and flamming incessantly on these forums. You underestimate the intelligence of our average member. Try harder! - This war is making you lose the respect the Eve communtiy had for you with your incessant forum spammage + flammage. - A true warrior has to follow a code of honor and respect his enemies. You used to, you don't anymore (very disapointing as many players were looking up to you ) - This war is making us stronger. Everyday we learn something about PvP, thanks to you. - You better hope CCP continues to fumble with the nodes, or else our 500bs would be sieging NOL as we speak. - We are taking heavy losses as we jump, lag, node crash, relog and are getting slaughtered without being able to return fire. That accounts for 80% of our loss. But our stand up fights are differents, we match match you 1 to 1 if the lag doesn't interfer. Granted you are still better pvpers than us. You have the experience we are missing (but gaining thanks to you). Another thank you for the good fights and the ones to come. Awesome sigs :)
TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:18:00 - [378] Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. Guys, we cheat (apparently). Anyone mind giving me this "The Headshot Macro" he is talking about?
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:21:00 - [379] Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 11/10/2006 13:21:42 Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have all made it up. I have spent the better part of a week lying about it. Fixed.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:23:00 - [380] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. Guys, we cheat (apparently). Anyone mind giving me this "The Headshot Macro" he is talking about? It's in the inbox of your GM account TWD, although as your playing on TWD for 12 hours a day being an unproductive member of society I'm not sure how long it will take you to log on that account so I can drop it to you via our forums. Oh don't forget you can't use it when other GM's are around and stay off the 'lame node' button at those times as well please. I would write more but mum's calling me for lunch and then I have some Quake to play. Eve Blacklight Style

Alberta Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:47:00 - [381] Originally by: Wulfgard Lately, these threads have became increasingly boring. You attempt at propaganda is only working on the weak minded. If we lose a few lemmings to your work, then good for us I wonder What happened to your magic spoon from the FA days, you used to spin it with great skills, now you can't deal with these simple facts: - You are the aggressor, but what have you conquered so far? - We are fighting in your home turf - Your offensive has lost its momentum and you are busy playing defense - You won't break ASCN moral by posting and flamming incessantly on these forums. You underestimate the intelligence of our average member. Try harder! - This war is making you lose the respect the Eve communtiy had for you with your incessant forum spammage + flammage. - A true warrior has to follow a code of honor and respect his enemies. You used to, you don't anymore (very disapointing as many players were looking up to you ) - This war is making us stronger. Everyday we learn something about PvP, thanks to you. - You better hope CCP continues to fumble with the nodes, or else our 500bs would be sieging NOL as we speak. - We are taking heavy losses as we jump, lag, node crash, relog and are getting slaughtered without being able to return fire. That accounts for 80% of our loss. But our stand up fights are differents, we match match you 1 to 1 if the lag doesn't interfer. Granted you are still better pvpers than us. You have the experience we are missing (but gaining thanks to you). Another thank you for the good fights and the ones to come. Awesome sigs :) ...and it's all just a little bit of history repeating.
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:47:00 - [382] Edited by: BlackRain on 11/10/2006 13:47:22 Originally by: Wulfgard - You are the aggressor, but what have you conquered so far? Yes, we started shooting at you. And no, we haven't conquered any space - at least yet. You however started the POS spamming, not us. Quote: - We are fighting in your home turf Which is bad for us... how? So far we have killed a stupidly high amount of ships from your alliance without having to travel 50+ jumps to get a fight. That is usually what our guys like to call "fun". Quote: - Your offensive has lost its momentum and you are busy playing defense You're losing the plot here. If we actually chose the landgrab option, we would do so. We haven't, because we don't have to. It's enough fun as it is right now. Quote: - You won't break ASCN moral by posting and flamming incessantly on these forums. You underestimate the intelligence of our average member. Try harder! So far the only ones who are underestimating the average intelligence of an everyday hobbit-joe are your own leaders. Posting blatant lies and drivel like that is a sign of nothing more than lack of judgement and respect to your own troops. Quote: - This war is making you lose the respect the Eve communtiy had for you with your incessant forum spammage + flammage. omgs, does that mean OrcA and Xirtam won't like BoB anymore? Oh, no.. Wait.. We don't care. Quote: - A true warrior has to follow a code of honor and respect his enemies. You used to, you don't anymore (very disapointing as many players were looking up to you ) I'd say we respect the way you have brought the fight to us. Ask anyone in our alliance, and they will most probably agree. We don't respect your leaders lying, crying like little girls and rolling the responsibility on others when it is quite clear it was them who botched the job in the first place. Quote: - This war is making us stronger. Everyday we learn something about PvP, thanks to you. You are most welcome, dear sir. However, losing way over a thousand ships in such a short time is an event which will in the end measure your ability to absorb losses. I see a dent already, and it will only get worse. Quote: - You better hope CCP continues to fumble with the nodes, or else our 500bs would be sieging NOL as we speak. Please, for the love of God, bring those 500 BS to NOL. It is even closer to the core and you are fun to kill. Please, do this as soon as possible. Quote: - We are taking heavy losses as we jump, lag, node crash, relog and are getting slaughtered without being able to return fire. That accounts for 80% of our loss. But our stand up fights are differents, we match match you 1 to 1 if the lag doesn't interfer. Granted you are still better pvpers than us. You have the experience we are missing (but gaining thanks to you). We have lag too. We crash too. And it's not like every single guy from our fleet would instantly blitz right back in the game when the node goes boom. Last time I suffered a node death, I was staring at a black screen for good 10 minutes before getting back in. And so far without the lag you can't match us even near 1:1. If the nodes would permit, our ability to quickly relay good intel, react to it and split & form detachments, manouver and counter your moves would far outweight basic zerg tactics you boys are using. Quote: Another thank you for the good fights and the ones to come. Thanks goes to you hobbitses aswell. You are the first alliance to actually go proactive in a war against BoB for a long, long time. Props for that, boys and girls. Quote: Awesome sigs :) All hail HostageTaker from BNC! <3 ------------------- -
Raging Lissa	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:11:00 - [383] I am very sorry to dump on the propaganda parade, but being new to eve i decided i wanted to see the truth of it. So i jumped into a shuttle and set waypoints all the way through both ascn and bob space. Now maybe i'm confused, but isnt bob supposed to be located in catch and period basis? if i'm wrong can someone please point me in the right direction because i've now been repeatedly podded by ascn and i have yet to get bob kill mail. I've actually flown directly through the frontline a few times too so i'm a little confused. Or does bob not practice NBSI? I have to admit i havent really been watching while i have autopilot on so i dont know who was in any of the systems i fly through, i just check the kill mail whenever i notice i'm dead... so am i in the wrong neighborhood? where is bob?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:16:00 - [384] Originally by: Alberta ...and it's all just a little bit of history repeating. The First Rule of War: Never trust a man who quotes Shirley Bassey.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:18:00 - [385] Originally by: Raging Lissa I am very sorry to dump on the propaganda parade, but being new to eve i decided i wanted to see the truth of it. So i jumped into a shuttle and set waypoints all the way through both ascn and bob space. Now maybe i'm confused, but isnt bob supposed to be located in catch and period basis? if i'm wrong can someone please point me in the right direction because i've now been repeatedly podded by ascn and i have yet to get bob kill mail. I've actually flown directly through the frontline a few times too so i'm a little confused. Or does bob not practice NBSI? I have to admit i havent really been watching while i have autopilot on so i dont know who was in any of the systems i fly through, i just check the kill mail whenever i notice i'm dead... so am i in the wrong neighborhood? where is bob? Check the Alliance map sticky in this very forum.
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:25:00 - [386] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Alberta ...and it's all just a little bit of history repeating. The First Rule of War: Never trust a man who quotes Shirley Bassey. Thats made my day.
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:42:00 - [387] One second you seem to miss a point here. Where does CCP say that we cannont have more then one char in a corp. So we have a person in BOB who is also in ASCN ? so what nothing agaist the rules there. That person in BOB and ASCN is then GIVEN the right to accsess your alliance forums, and why not he is apart of the ASCN in game alliance. What he chooses to do with the imformation he was GIVEN is his choice. No laws have been broke No ingame rules have been broken. The only thing at fault for this situation is your recruiting policey. So all this talk of brining communications between ASCN members to this forum is pointless. You have a person in your ranks who is willing to pass the imformation to us, that is your problem not ours.
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:43:00 - [388] Edited by: Cyleth on 11/10/2006 14:43:35 Originally by: Raging Lissa Edited by: Raging Lissa on 11/10/2006 14:20:21 I am very sorry to dump on the propaganda parade, but being new to eve i decided i wanted to see the truth of it. So i jumped into a shuttle and set waypoints all the way through both ascn and bob space. Now maybe i'm confused, but isnt bob supposed to be located in catch and period basis? if i'm wrong can someone please point me in the right direction because i've now been repeatedly podded by ascn and i have yet to get bob kill mail. I've actually flown directly through the frontline a few times too so i'm a little confused. Or does bob not practice NBSI? I have to admit i havent really been watching while i have autopilot on so i dont know who was in any of the systems i fly through, i just check the kill mail whenever i notice i'm dead... so am i in the wrong neighborhood? where is bob? i suppose i should mention, i have flown directly through the following regions without being bob-podded several times: period basis, delve, querious, khanid, aridia, paragon soul, esoteria, stain, feythabolis, omist, impass, and a few others along the way that i cant find on the map right now. How are you today ASCN alt? Nice try tho. -- Nobody stays behind
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:51:00 - [389] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 11/10/2006 14:51:53 Originally by: Hast Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. ASCN has never used a spy on either enemy TS or forums? Forums for fact, although not many knew ofcourse. :) TS too, but that was XETIC vs CA, so not strictly ASCN. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
BOldMan	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:52:00 - [390] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. Guys, we cheat (apparently). how?



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