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Jacob Stiller
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.15 21:53:00 -
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Then again, I read a thread by a hulk pilot whining about ganking right after reading this. So, yeah, I just might try it after I get some decent gunnery skills. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.12.15 23:13:00 -
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Considering that many of the observations you have associated with miners apply equally to most isk making activities; easily (pseudo)botable, endlessly repeatable acts which can be used for purposeless/endless accumulation of isk, which pretty much encompasses all activities that spawn resources or direct isk as well (These arguments apply equally to just about all PvE and PI as well), why have you singled out mining? Or have I misunderstood the core of your reasoning?
As for changes to wardec mechanics, expecting anything other than what is occurring as a result of your campaign to eliminate a profession from eve, which I thought was supposed to be devoid on "morals" aside from what the game mechanics allow, meaning anything that is allowed cannot be "wrong," seems very backwards. |
The Bear08
The Scope Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.12.15 23:50:00 -
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I very much enjoyed reading. Couldn't agree more with the OP either. It's the evil in this game which makes it the only video game I would ever play and mining just doesn't fit in as far as I'm concerned.
The consequences of removing all ore from highsec are of no worry to me at all - I don't know what would happen, but if it made resources more scarce and ships more precious then it could only make eve more epic. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
20
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Posted - 2011.12.16 04:53:00 -
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Re posting in thread full of win. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 05:18:00 -
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Damn hats off to you OP. whole thread was TLDR but 23 pages , thats impressive trolling by anyones standards |
Agallis Zinthros
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.16 05:34:00 -
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James 315 wrote:They deserve to be wiped out, every last one of them. To the extent that they still feel anything, it should only be fear, humiliation, and misery.
ALLAHU ACKBAR JIHAD!
TO THE BELTS MY BROTHERS!
This scum must be purged from Eve. I have done my part. Tanked my security status to kill Hulks in .5s and .6s. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
7
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Posted - 2011.12.16 07:39:00 -
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I read the whole thing and I rather agree.
When I started out in EVE, I joined a mining corporation with the intent to make money that would boost my ability to do whatever I really wanted to do in EVE, whenever I figured out what that was. I was appalled to discover that my corpmates' love for mining was nothing more than a lack of ability or desire to understand what else there was to do in this game. When a pvper started stealing our ore in a rifter to get us outraged, my corpmates raged for sure, but they never succeeded in doing anything about the pirate. Finally it was I who accidentally lured the pirate to the demise of her rifter by baiting her in an attempt to learn more about why I, as a miner, was so vulnerable to attack. My corpmates, eager for a kill, got a gank thorax in position for a warp in, while I stole my precious veldspar back and said goodbye to my retriever. I have to admit, though I had received such positive attention from my corp for that, I still felt like I betrayed someone greater than them.
When my corp was later wardecced, I thought it would be fun for once. I mined in a bantam since I was unable to actually fight alone back then. It seemed a reasonable thing to do at the time. I never once saw a member of the aggressing corp, yet my beloved mining corp dissipated within days of the war. Those people who I trusted to have my back had abandoned me at the first sign of trouble. I just don't understand how these people can still play EVE. |
Pavel Bidermann
whips chains and ballgags Care Factor
53
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Posted - 2011.12.16 08:01:00 -
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It is quite the troll. Hats off. Some people are trying too hard to keep it going though.
I will point out that about 2 pages of it was me taking sov in this thread and then abandoning it to become a forum merc corp. That was kind of fun.
Not really feeling it right now though. "My" (used generically) govenment is about to vote out the Bill of Rights and the Constitution this week. Really sucks. between the NDAA and SOPA bills, I may not even be able to log into EVE since we could effectively be receiving a Chinese national firewall. Worst case scenario but truly a bummer. |
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries Pandorum Invictus
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Posted - 2011.12.16 10:04:00 -
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Cannot believe this hasn't been locked yet. |
Jackson Steely
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 10:36:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Damn hats off to you OP. whole thread was TLDR but 23 pages , thats impressive trolling by anyones standards
It we're talking "Pound for pound" trolling, I've seen Tom Gerard(lol) trolls reach multiple pages with two lines.
Considering this is 7000+ words, anything less than 350 pages in any reasonable amount of time is a complete failure.
Sorry OP, B Class attempt. |
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Citizen Smif
Traumark Shadow Elite H Y E N A
30
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Posted - 2011.12.16 12:19:00 -
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Quote:That's the fundamental difference between the highsec miner and the suicide ganker. The gankers are human. The miners are bots. The miners are quite literally less than human. They deserve to be wiped out, every last one of them. To the extent that they still feel anything, it should only be fear, humiliation, and misery.
Quote:Everyone knows that a highsec miner is motivated by greed. And not just a desire to gain, which could equally be attributed to the conquerors of nullsec, but a particular kind of senseless, materialistic greed.
Quote:They would leverage their financial power (because you know, people who mine ice are rich).
Quote:When a miner came under fire, the rest would scatter, leaving their friend to die. I pondered what species these people were.
Yes mein fuhrer!! Death to the je.. Miners!
You have successfully written an essay about EVE that is on a par with Mein Kampf. You are the fuhrer, the mastermind.. You will lead the PvP Peoples to death and glory and establish the Reich of 1000 years! The last remnants of these rats that plague our universe will be our slaves. They will build us fleets of ships that shake the very fabric of the universe with their warping. Then once this golden age has come we will finish them. We will destroy them. Their plague on EVE will be no more.
Hail mein fuhrer! Hail! Hail! Hail!
Adolf H+¡tler - GÇ£If only one country, for whatever reason, tolerates a Jewish family in it, that family will become the germ center for fresh sedition. If one little Jewish boy survives without any Jewish education, with no synagogue and no Hebrew school, it [Judaism] is in his soul. Even if there had never been a synagogue or a Jewish school or an Old Testament, the Jewish spirit would still exist and exert its influence. It has been there from the beginning and there is no Jew, not a single one, who does not personify it.GÇ¥
James 315 - "If only one system, for whatever reason, tolerates a miner in it, that miner will become the germ center for fresh sedition. If one little mining boy survives without any mining knowledge, with no hulks and no asteroids, it [Mining] is in his soul. Even if there had never been a hulk or an asteroid or High Sec, the mining spirit would still exist and exert its influence. It has been there from the beginning and there is no Miner, not a single one, who does not personify it.GÇ¥
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Bodrul
Future Dynamics Needless Friends
1
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Posted - 2011.12.16 12:28:00 -
[432] - Quote
jesus christ talk about a wallllllllllllllllllllllllll of Text Gaminging Reviews Win Two Months Sub to Eve Online or a game of your choice |
Blinky3J
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2011.12.16 14:27:00 -
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**** son, you went deep. Personally I just like seeing ships explode and tears are an added bonus. |
SmegB
Onyx Brotherhood STR8NGE BREW
1
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Posted - 2011.12.16 14:49:00 -
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do you mean to tell me that high sec miners have no soul? hahaha i forgot that was mention already 100 times. but i liked it. not bad. abit repetative could have saved me 20 min or reading but it was still good. you got your point across.... if people are crazy/bored enought to read it. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
387
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Posted - 2011.12.16 14:56:00 -
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Blinky3J wrote:**** son, you went deep. Personally I just like seeing ships explode and tears are an added bonus.
Atleast your honest. As a hisec miner, I'd rather hear someone tell the truth than sugar coat it, like they're all cerebral. +1 to you. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Zyress
Deaths Head Brigade Gryphon League
8
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Posted - 2011.12.16 16:17:00 -
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I got through the 3rd section of it and had to stop as my eyes were starting to bleed. Pretty much the same thoughts over and over again. The High sec miner piles up isk to no purpose and it bothers him. (poor him) The High sec miner automates the repetitive tasks they have as much as they can within the rules. (yes and then?) The High sec miner may be knowledgable or responsible for bots in the area. (Hilarious from a Nullsec guy) The high sec miner would automate his actions more if botting was legal. ( yes and then?) The High sec miner feels nothing when he makes his isk. ( and the sucide ganker gets that incredible thrill of destroying a defenseless ship?) The High sec miner is uninvolved in Eve. ( and the suicide ganker gets his kicks off of hurting people they don't even know, I'll take the miner thank you) The op claims to be impartial even as he states his utter contempt and disgust for the miner. I'll give him an 'E' for effort , but he's just another red necked facsist ranting against people he has no understanding of. |
Skyrnor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 16:51:00 -
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Ice Miners: Targeting me won't get their money back. I knew the suicide gankers wouldn't go down without a fight, but this is different. They've crossed a line. James 315: You crossed the line first, sir. You squeezed them and hammered them to the point of desperation, and in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn't fully understand. Ice Miners: Suicide gankers aren't complicated, James. We just need to figure out what he's after. James 315: With respect, Master Ice Miner, perhaps this is a man that you don't fully understand either. A long time ago, I was in nullsec. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of corp leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Pure Blind by a bandit. So we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never met anyone who had traded with him. One day I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away. Ice Miners: So why steal them? James 315: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. |
Pavel Bidermann
whips chains and ballgags Care Factor
53
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Posted - 2011.12.16 17:01:00 -
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Did this become a "lol manifesto" thread? |
Liebe DieBombe
Sninky Support and Logistics
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:28:00 -
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Haargoth, is that you under there? <3 <3 <3 |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:35:00 -
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Will this thread ever die? |
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Pavel Bidermann
whips chains and ballgags Care Factor
53
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:37:00 -
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Nope. Lets keep posting!!!!!!!! |
Pavel Bidermann
whips chains and ballgags Care Factor
53
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:38:00 -
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But then.... who's trolling who now? |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:42:00 -
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Pavel Bidermann wrote:But then.... who's trolling who now?
Not so much trolling rather a off-topic side disscusion on whether this thread is really as 'full of troll' as it first appears. |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:43:00 -
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I marveled at the Ops stupidity.
Two seconds later I left the thread, never to give him a second thought ever more.
Op Success? Nope. He got every mark wrong and clouded it in 7,000 words of trying to look smart. Everyone knows why the miners are getting ganked, people want targets and want to **** them off in the process. They think it is funny when someone who thinks they are safe goes kaboom.
That is it. That is all. Do I get a cookie? Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
306
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:44:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I marveled at the Ops stupidity.
Two seconds later I left the thread, never to give him a second thought ever more.
Op Success? Nope. He got every mark wrong and clouded it in 7,000 words of trying to look smart. Everyone knows why the miners are getting ganked, people want targets and want to **** them off in the process. They think it is funny when someone who thinks they are safe goes kaboom.
That is it. That is all. Do I get a cookie?
That's a lot of text to type in two seconds and/or after having left a thread Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |
Pavel Bidermann
whips chains and ballgags Care Factor
53
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:47:00 -
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See, the side topics have more actual content. The trolling was kind of like a BBQ. It's a reason to get together. |
AllR Punished
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 21:58:00 -
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Holy ****, you literally just wasted your life. |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
90
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Posted - 2011.12.16 22:22:00 -
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Jacob Stiller wrote:Then again, I read a thread by a hulk pilot whining about ganking right after reading this. So, yeah, I just might try it after I get some decent gunnery skills.
Better and more profitable ways to make a living in this game friend. Its too easy, too tempting, too uncouth to destroy for the sake of destruction in my opinion, be original and try to mix a little creation into your death and destruction you might find that in the balance of things is where true happiness lies. 'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you. |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
1
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Posted - 2011.12.16 23:27:00 -
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Wall of Text hits you for 2,000,000 kinetic damage ... Your ship has been destroyed |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:58:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Personally, I just find them easy to dislike. Like the National Sozialists around 1940 find it easy to dislike Jude for no reason.
Easy targets which can be killed without risk.
Risk? Risk vis Reward? Don't (wannabe) PvP player allways talk about this and claim it for their doing?
WHICH RISK? Sec status? ROFL, they don't care! ISK lose? ROFL, far to low to call it a risk! Fear that their victims might turn the stick around? ROFL, they KNOW this will never happen as they KNOW industrial ships are a damn bad joke when it come to fitting posibilitys!
There is NO RISK in highsec ganking!
So once again all the words from highsec gankers are nothing but e-peen trolling.
PS: First of it's CCPs damn job to punish BOTs. Second most BOTs are run by 00 Allys like Goons, XXXmafiaXXX, PL and all the rest. So all you say is: The Mittani starts to hunt other peoples BOTs to get more income from HIS OWN BOTs! And the real played Miners are just colateral damage :(.
All over highsec ganking is a mix of Mafia and National Sozialism. And CCP allow it to happen! Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
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