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Aerilis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
34
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:49:00 -
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I have no idea whether I just read the most brilliant self-satirizing troll novel ever, or the extended rantings of a seriously deluded and ******** individual. Either way, color me entertained :3
edit: it also seems like nobody in this thread has any understanding of economics :/ |
Seaxe
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:54:00 -
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Eve Antonovich wrote:
Thanks. I mine and gank - does that make me a half-bot, or just confused?
bot-curious |
Meow Galore
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:07:00 -
[93] - Quote
Brilliant read. You really managed to capture the feeling of egotistical-lunatic-with-a-messiah-complex beautifully.
You should start the Society for Cutting Up Miners. |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
18
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:08:00 -
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I like highsec ganking in general and think it's hilarious how much goons managed to mess up the price of oxygen isotopes. :)
However OP is full of the stupid, some of it's witty and eloquent and I liked the story part, but overall wow you're really stupid if that's not just fail trolling.
Speaking of stupid, cry more about wall of text you bunch of pathetic illiterates. |
Prince Kobol
77
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:09:00 -
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Ethzera wrote:An interesting read which succeeded in inverting my opinion of highsec miners and the gankers who target them.
Though this entire thread is going to be just people commenting on the sheer number of words, as if they've never read a book before in their life.
I read lot of the books.. the difference is that Books are interesting and the OP isn't. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:09:00 -
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OP needs a long stay at a mental health facility in a room with padded walls |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project Fade 2 Black
14
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:14:00 -
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Kyle Yanowski wrote:Look mate,
If your mug was so prominently displayed to the left of every bile filled paragraph, I would have assumed this was written by space H I T L E R himself.
This way of thinking only discourages NEW BLOOD from staying in Eve for the duration. Like myself, a new player understands that there are limitations to what can be accomplished in anything other than highsec.... limitations that are only lifted when SP reaches something above 5 million.
Get a life, you and the mittani, a target something that fights back.
cheers.
-ski
I laughed! Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
190
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:16:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Nikola Aivoras wrote:Ethzera wrote:Nikola Aivoras wrote:I suppose you believe the people who tell you the grass is purple, even though you see that it is clearly green? At least I have the capacity to accept that things may not be as they seem. Just because you see green grass doesn't mean it's truly green, or that it's even really there. But this is a philosophical discussion for another time. Spare me the new-age philosophical crap. It's a way for relativists to justify their actions when they can't find a reason in the real world. After all, the world is really an illusion, right? Plato isn't really "new age". He's about as "old age" as it gets.
Funny that I remember Plato specifically argued against that kind of relativism and the sophists who used it. Just saying. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
47
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:31:00 -
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Let's see...
-1 for lack of originality (Lyris Nairn does this better) -1 for brazen, unashamed fellatio of Mittani and Karrttoon...really mate, we don't need to know, OK? Please keep it discreet -2 for retreading--yet again--BoB vs. Goons--it's ancient ******* history, OK, no-one who was around then who still is now ******* cares anymore, and if those who don't know, did, they wouldn't either FFS... -1 for actually believing suicide-ganking requires skill, and this bottom-feeding of free, AFK targets is some kind of achievement worth mentioning -5 for actually wasting time to write that much...on the Internet! What are you on, man (and could you share?)
+1 for actually getting me to read it all, regardless (the rest of you--7240 words is ****-all--what, do you Internet-kiddies have the attention-spans of gnats? But then I'm old school--I actually still read books--novel-length paper ones, even--for enjoyment/edification...)
So, net assessment: 1/10, briefly amusing before devolving into the usual Goon-drivel, wouldn't read again. |
Marcus Harikari
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:32:00 -
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I am a high-sec carebear miner. Bring it. |
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Elson Tamar
Lion Investments
61
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:40:00 -
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a) The Mittani would say hes not the Mittani and get goons to back it up
b) Mining ops are a good place for a corp socials and just discussing corp stuff for a couple of hours.
c) 7/10 i would say
d) well writen and intersting. I gank and steal to by the way, but for a purpose, not cause miners a naughty and need spanking, i mine too and do many other things.
e) My god you love the sound of you own voice! I write lots of words to justify my actions. It's eve yah **** you dont have to justify yourself! Unless your blowing up miners and dont have an industrial near by to take the ore with you, in which case your a moron and yah need to justify that waste. Seriously if your ganking for profit or gain its a good thing i praise you and encourge you, if it's just because everyone else is doing it, well done you missed your oppertunity to be a free thinking individual who follows where others lead.
f) The only bots are in high sec? cause lets be honest you say miners in high sec want to bot casue its about isk and making money. Null sec miners however rightous and good and veldspar shines out of their wazoos and they would never bot because they are the perfect players. Grow up, the same motivations are in null as in high when it comes to mining (not i didnt mention low, poor low sec players may they finaly rage and invade null so they get some lovin). Someone explained to me how bots worked the other day as i couldn't understand how CCP dont catch 'em, I was so disgusted. Apparently you can also bot combat ships too to rat or protect miners if you know how. If you are really hunting bots good on you it is rightous, i agree you are doing the world a service, but dont just target high sec 'cause that is hypocritical and buying into bull**** self justifying manifestos that say only high sec bot.
CCP hunt botters, let em do their job.
If your so upset about miners i would suggest that you quit and give me your stuff, i think you have nice stuff, can i have it please? or just a little bit of stuff, some gank trashers or atlos's would be nice.
Edit i cant spell in my rants apparently |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
47
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:41:00 -
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Imryn Xaran wrote:
Pity he doesn't have the guts to post with his main, so we could all see exactly who this tard is.
Karrttoon (or however it's spelt), maybe?
I forget exactly where, but he talks about karrttoon's vision/jihad/whatever, and then quickly transposes "I" for karrttoon with no change in style/flow whatsoever.
Probably not Mittani in any case:
This mouth-breathing drooler's sanctimonious douch-bag-ness has a certain mix of jejeune pretension and pathetically adorable earnestness that the Mittani's writing has matured past, or at least, the Mittani is better at concealing.
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Arttemis Prime
Last 0f The Primes
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:44:00 -
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Ummmm, I could tell you why in a single sentance.
Because its cheap, easy, risk free, and a guarenteed kill without the 50 man gang with super support coming to **** you. |
Zenos Ebeth
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:45:00 -
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Read the first post , had the impression i was hearing a WWII **** give his opinion on jews , then i stopped reading. |
Lars Lemur
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:17:00 -
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NIce post!
Like the way it started with nice bohemian views, like rescuing the highsec miners from the tyranny of ISK making... then later took a more religious turn... "karttoon and his teachings", "I am the father" and all that. Good propaganda I must say!
You don't rival Stalin, ****** or the Catholic Church just yet... but give it time =)
One thing I wonder. Do all "anti-miners" and full-time PVPers, If they had their way, want to see all Industry aspects of EVE removed and make it all about space combat?
I have only been in EVE for a year, and I don't claim to know everything about the ebb and flow of the EVE economy, and maybe you gankers ARE doing something that will benefit all EVE players in the long run. But aren't the highsec miners the biggest suppliers of materials to the market or is this just highsec miner propaganda?
Would be interesting and, maybe educational, to read a "anti-highsec miners" vision of EVE without highsec miners. This post only talks about why they are no good and how they don't contribute to EVE... |
decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:40:00 -
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so kill all miners , what happens , mineral prices skyrocket, increasing the cost to suicide gankers as ships become more expensive to make. suicide gankers can no longer afford to buy ships and quit the game.
yep i can see this as a positive thing.
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:17:00 -
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Sir I feel you could get that word count down a bit.
a TL:DR? |
Serial Chi
Dust Bunnies 514
54
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:19:00 -
[108] - Quote
CCP take note. You have some crazy ass people play your game. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:38:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Malcanis wrote:Nikola Aivoras wrote:Ethzera wrote:Nikola Aivoras wrote:I suppose you believe the people who tell you the grass is purple, even though you see that it is clearly green? At least I have the capacity to accept that things may not be as they seem. Just because you see green grass doesn't mean it's truly green, or that it's even really there. But this is a philosophical discussion for another time. Spare me the new-age philosophical crap. It's a way for relativists to justify their actions when they can't find a reason in the real world. After all, the world is really an illusion, right? Plato isn't really "new age". He's about as "old age" as it gets. Funny that I remember Plato specifically argued against that kind of relativism and the sophists who used it. Just saying.
So its still as "old age" as it gets. Since if he argued against it, that means it had to exist at that time.
Anyway i didnt read it at all.
Any action, which require as much text to justify it, is probably corrupt and the justification is usually full of lies. |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
40
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:40:00 -
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Isn't it true that many, if not most, PvPers support their ship losses with macro miners?
Also, you used the word 'All' too many times.
I don't ever mine AFK except when nature calls, or I need a cup of coffee.
I enjoy mining because it is a challenge for me to fly three - four ships effectively. Something that I don't think any bot or group can do.
Lock rocks, phased strip miner startup, move ore to Orca, Hauler moves ore to station, change crystals, fight rats, repair damaged drones. A lot of people say the ganker problem is avoidable if you use DScan constantly. The way I mine, there isn't a lot of time for that.
Also as hundreds of players have pointed out, it's easier to make ISK running missions. I do that too.
But it isn't all about ISK. I provide free Orca support for people when I can. FREE. Some people suggest that is a carebear kind of thing to do. So what. I enjoy helping people, not stepping on them.
But I do make ISK. Not much on a daily basis, but enough to support my ship buying habit. The difference is that I have more than 500 ships now. How many PvPers can say that? Not saying there aren't some, but I'll bet there aren't many.
But you know what my favorite part of the game is? Anti-pirate roams. Just so I get a chance to meet a few dirtbags like you every now and then. Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve.
-áProud member of the 6%ers. |
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Ralinastrife
Wormhole Exploration Crew Transmission Lost
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:07:00 -
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this character is a miner...my main character is pvp..i use mining to make isk and to contribute to corp for ice and stuff....and like most miners we are purely indy characters..so yeah we mine alot and stuff but also we make and produce ships/items...so thats the trade off in general..if no miners what would the pvpers use their isk on??? cause there would be no ships unless you count the faction ones etc. |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
40
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:17:00 -
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Ralinastrife wrote:l..if no miners what would the pvpers use their isk on??? cause there would be no ships unless you count the faction ones etc.
I've heard this question a number of times, and even asked it myself.
Unfortunately, I know the answer. Next expansion CCP is going to start selling pods that can mount Siege Launchers from the NEX store.
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve.
-áProud member of the 6%ers. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
351
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:21:00 -
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To the OP:
First off, you're an idiot.
Secondly, you don't know squat when you talk about human hisec miners. (I run a hisec mining corporation. And I mine 4-5hours a day. And I gank bots when they come into my area of operations.)
Thirdly, a huge wall of text to tell everyone that you're better than me, because you're a pvp'r. Whoopty fricken-doo.
And lastly, you're a coward. Not because you gank miners, hisec or otherwise, but because you won't post with your main.
Do you need a hug and for someone to tell you that your great in real life? Then step away from the computer, open up some windows and let the light in, shower, then go get a life.
Manifesto my hairy butt, more like a plea for some social acknowledgement to your sorry exsistance.
Oh, btw, I'm writing this while I mine. Does this upset you?
Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:23:00 -
[114] - Quote
http://www.uq.edu.au/~pdwgrey/web/can/cannibalism.html
This basically.
/me tips hat to OP. |
Armored Phoenix
Phoenix Stellar Mining Industries
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:29:00 -
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Seriously, OP's attempt at justifying his killboard-padding, epeen-stroking, egotistical, self-centered, fascist, dictatorial, and misguided attempts to force others to play the game the way he thinks it should be played are utterly amusing.
I read the whole thread (yes, all 7000+ words, and 6 pages of responses), and whole-heartedly think (and this is my opinion, for those that know the difference between it and fact) that the OP needs to be on some strong medication, or institutionalized, for whatever condition he is suffering from.
I can honestly admit that I am a high-sec miner, have never even considered using any form of bot or macro, and enjoy mining (even it means I make less isk per hour than other activities). I use the profits that I do make to fund my alts and their activities, which are less profitable. I enjoy mining, because it is a simple task and relaxing. Mining gives me the chance to play a game that I enjoy, think over and evaluate all of my real life actions and experiences from the day. It gives the opportunity to, possibly, meet and converse with people with other perspectives from around the world.
I have met a number of people, both new players and vets alike, while mining, and had pleasant conversations with them. Conversation is a stimulating, social activity, that requires more concentration than is available when engaged in PVP.
If miners are so evil (discounting the whiners that want ganking removed), why have I discovered that most of the miners that I have met in game, are more philosophical and intellectual than most of the PVPers I have met (no offense intended to the PVPers). Suicide gankers, on the other hand, are bottom-feeders who have no concept of risk or enjoyment of a well-earned kill.
Ganking is not PVP in any way. Ganking is no more stimulating or exciting than beating up the elderly. You are trying to "fight" someone who is not capable of fighting back. Where is the challenge? Where is the thrill? If someone thinks that either of those things exist in ganking, then they are a pathetic excuse for a human.
However, gankers choose to play the game the way they want to. That is allowed within the game mechanics, and, above all, is their choice. They are entitled to have their opinion, just as I am entitled to have mine. Are they wrong to gank defenseless victims? Perhaps, perhaps not; regardless, I am not qualified to judge that. I am allowed to have an opinion, though, as are they.
I believe that ganking should remain a viable option within the mechanics of the game. However, I believe that it should be made more difficult than it currently is. The ability to destroy a 200+ million isk ship with a ship that only cost a few million is unbalanced. Gankers should be forced to incur higher expenses to achieve their desired goal. I agree with most of the people wanting a buff to mining barges and exhumers. I don't think that ganking should be made impossible though; just more difficult.
To conclude, gank if you want to, but try to morally justify what you are doing. Realize and accept that you are ganking simply to have fun at some other player's expense. You do it to try to ruin some other human's fun. Ganking is not evil. Mining is not evil. Both are allowed, and acceptable, methods of playing in the sandbox. If you want to stomp on other kids' sandcastles, go ahead. But be prepared for the day you get punched in the face for doing it to the wrong kid.
Fly safe (for the miners) / Get Concordokkened (for the gankers) --Armored Phoenix
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Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
208
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:34:00 -
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Wow, I can't believe you guys are STILL answering this thread seriously after the first four pages
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:-1 for brazen, unashamed fellatio of Mittani and Karrttoon...really mate, we don't need to know, OK? Please keep it discreet The truth of who wrote the original post still eludes me, but quick question, if you could perform autofellatio and knew nobody could catch you... would you? I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |
Jeff Latro
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:36:00 -
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I just shoot miners because it amuses me. |
Captain Megadeath
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:39:00 -
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So this is what the self-righteous neckbeard mittani does with his free time when he isn't plotting how to get EvE back to 5000 subscribers that all worship him.
TL:DR - He mad. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
351
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:40:00 -
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Jeff Latro wrote:I just shoot miners because it amuses me.
As a hisec miner, I have more respect for this pilot, than the OP. Hell, atleast this one is telling the truth. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
DrDan21
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
88
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:41:00 -
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ACY GTMI wrote:Isn't it true that many, if not most, PvPers support their ship losses with macro miners?
Macro mining? Are you kidding? If we wanted to waste our time picking up the pennies like you guys do in highsec maybe. We have much more profitable opportunities.
I think I've gathered a total of like 1000 veldspar for a mission once...and I think I've ran probably close to like 6 missions ever....
EvE is a PvP game, and you can make billions in nullsec without really using much effort if you know how |
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