Does this change mean that CCP really doesn't know what to do with capital ships?

Does this change mean that CCP really cannot think of ways to alter the environment to make this tactic less appealing in some circumstances where it might be more problematic?

You could reduce fighter weapon ranges to reduce this but then you'd run into the old problem that made fighters mostly useless back in the day in that their high orbit speed and short optimal range meant they'd often defeat their own tracking.

Which the receiving ship fixes with webs/target painters/scrams etc.

If your dumb enough to enter someone's home system and attack them without scouting the system first then you get what you deserve.

If you feel a need to Cry to CCP to nerf a feature that has been around for almost 10 years, I think your playing the wrong game!

Keep Fighters as they are!

Change it because a few scrubs can't handle losing a few ships to prepared defenders, and I will think long and hard about wether CCP still deserves my $15 a month.

And is it just me or have so many people not understood what "Attack and Follow" means for drone settings, is this a failing on CCP's part in tutorial or wiki pages or are these people just too lazy to look it up? I found out on my first day because I saw it and asked in rookie help!

last time i checked wasn't eve supposed to be a sandbox?

therefore its the players task to find solutions for ingame mechanics (what they actually most of the time do).
its not CCPs task to fix issues (or fix isues where are none) just because some ppl keep whining and whining and whining!

some ppl might see high sec ganking as an issue. so??? did CCP do something about it? no because thats how it should be. ppl should adapt and learn to live with said mechanic.

"We also want to promote active gameplay as much as possible. We're failing on both with Skynet by having very little risk associated with something rather powerful, and we're also not providing any gameplay to the carrier pilot"

so u wanna say that dual or tripple boxing with carriers and or supers on a FF does not provide gameplay? well thats to be judged by the players doing so and not by CCP, right?

"very little risk associated with something rather powerful"

it might be powerful, but little risk? if the contra-party just brings enough of their own capitals u can just forget about skynet. and thats exactly how it should be. and party finds a new mechanic or using it, so the opposite party is being forced to counter that mechanic.
"very little risk" so building a super/titan and keeping it safe/alive is no risk for CCP, right?

so @CCP pls there is not just a "0" or "1". there is more than just "Yes" and "No"
im sure there is a solution that will be fine for both sides

I must admit to a bit of confusion.

If you at CCP didn't want this situation, whatever made you think that applying the originating carrier's mod bonuses to assigned fighters was a change worth implementing?

Assigned fighters were AFAIK not a huge problem when they were assigned without ship bonuses (specifically damage and tracking).

Assigned fighters still aren't a problem, but the fact that you can use them 101% risk-free from the safety of a POS.

EDIT: Let's face it: not a single one of these renter scrubs would use assigned fighters if there was any risk in it. Not a single one.

WOW did the majority of peoples posts, INCLUDING my own, who were oppose to this, for good reason seriously get removed?


**** this game. and its mods, community and devs. i and my corp will be quitting. enjoy your -300 a month from our lack of subs CCP..

WOW did the majority of peoples posts, INCLUDING my own, who were oppose to this, for good reason seriously get removed?


**** this game. and its mods, community and devs. i and my corp will be quitting. enjoy your -300 a month from our lack of subs CCP..


Confirmed Form/mod zealots ABUSE removing large posts with constructive feedback of people who are opposed to this change.

The problem started when you had all skills and all drone modules applying their bonuses to the fighters and fighter bombers.
Before this , you could not get fighters moving at 6k m/s and dealing tons of DPS.

You did not have cheap nullified ships like ceptors.

Many things have changed.

The problem started when you had all skills and all drone modules applying their bonuses to the fighters and fighter bombers.
Before this , you could not get fighters moving at 6k m/s and dealing tons of DPS.

You did not have cheap nullified ships like ceptors.

Many things have changed.

Do you have any clue ? like screenshot ?

Don't be afraid to send pm

If true, it's sad.

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But the fighters were a mechanic that was fine, for a while, but then became abused more and more. What did you expect

I expected CCP to put the effort into solving the the abuse of the mechanic rather than just remove it do to one way it is being used.

Anytime you want to read what was removed you may skip over to http://eve-search.com/thread/409271-1/page/1 and see it in all its unmoderated glory.

just saying . . .

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wow, that is actually very helpful for a change. thank you.


my OP was here if anyone wants to read it. http://eve-search.com/thread/409271-1/page/25#726

and remember kids and CCP. just because people aren't keeping totally calm and polite DOESN'T mean, what they are saying matters any less. if mass hordes of people are THAT UPSET. foaming at the mouth raging in opposition of this, or ANY change, THAT'S PROBABLY A SIGN you should stop and seriously consider what the heck you are doing.

hell sign nothing, that's a Beacon with an airport air traffic controller and glow wands, and strobe lights, telling you this is an AWFUL idea.

you are an awful forum moderator.

either you know full well what you are doing, or you don't understand the seriousness and criticalcality of what you are deleting.

people need to see majority of posts you are deleting please stop and let someone else do your job.


Besides. you're just a "Vice" admiral. im a "Fleet" admiral.. i out Rank you.