ah. and the assisted Einherjis spawn just in space and wait to get assisted right?
you forgot in your calculation the carrier OR supercarrier.

you just have to scan him down. bump him away from the pos and kill it. mister iamlookingforaneasykillandgothumiliated...

I've yet to see an actual argument to keeping fighters going to warp besides "please don't nerf they cost me money".

I hate being harsh but I haven't read one yet

Removing fighter assign is good. Removing fighter warp is bad.

I can't follow a target warping to a safespot in my combat ship, so fighters being able to follow targets continuously is odd.

But I can always warp to a member of my fleet in the same system, and I can fleet warp, so at a minimum, fighters should always be able to warp TO the carriers location when the carrier, and warp WITH the carrier when the carrier warps.

But feel free to remove the follow aggressed target function, it wouldn't be much of a loss.

If you have no idea how skynet works then you probably shouldn't post here. The Carrier is 40m outside a friendly POS, with a heated MWD and agility rigs and can get back into a friendly POS in under 1 second. The Einherjis are assisted to the interceptors from this position. For all intents and purposes it is completely invulnerable. A t2 Fit Thanatos costs around 2b including fighters, but it is an almost invulernable asset. The tangible assets you will lose are the Stilettos in this example on the grid, and probably rarely the fighters if the Stilettos aren't paying attention, and the Vindicator. The assisting Carrier in a proper configuration is at almost no risk what so ever.

If you have no idea how skynet works then you probably shouldn't post here. The Carrier is 40m outside a friendly POS, with a heated MWD and agility rigs and can get back into a friendly POS in under 1 second. The Einherjis are assisted to the interceptors from this position. For all intents and purposes it is completely invulnerable. A t2 Fit Thanatos costs around 2b including fighters, but it is an almost invulernable asset. The tangible assets you will lose are the Stilettos in this example on the grid, and probably rarely the fighters if the Stilettos aren't paying attention, and the Vindicator. The assisting Carrier in a proper configuration is at almost no risk what so ever.

Dear CCP, I'm quite disappointed with your latest nerfs and rebalaces. Why don't you concentrate more on inventing something new in game instead of nerfing or boosting the same things in the game every year. Otherwise, with such a "job" I guess you're trying to justify the money of your investors???

suddenly i feel like seeing the neighbours Boy sitting in the sandbox calling mommy and blaming the 5 year older kid for destroying his plan to world dominance.

just like, if i can't kill it quick enough, iam gonna run to mommccp and make them disappear through another way.

grow balls. seriously.

suddenly i feel like seeing the neighbours Boy sitting in the sandbox calling mommy and blaming the 5 year older kid for destroying his plan to world dominance.

just like, if i can't kill it quick enough, iam gonna run to mommccp and make them disappear through another way.

grow balls. seriously.

Now expalin to us all how well that works when the fighters don't get bonuses from the carrier/mods/carrier pilot?

Which is the entire point. CCP made some not so smart buffs to fighters, that went haywire and the 'fix' is to remove the mechanic that was around before the problem but not the actual things that caused the problem?

That doesn't make any damn sense.

They do get bonuses dumpass.

Please leave the ability for fighters to warp back to the carrier in the event of the carrier warping out. It would really suck losing 200m ISK fighters every time you get a socket error. Additionally, it gives fighters something unique as opposed to other drones.

This also encourages people to rat in carriers. It has been years since I have actually ratted with a carrier, but less than a week since I have helped kill ratting carriers. If rats kill your fighters every time you get a socket error or you lose fighters every time you try to save your carrier, people will either use heavy drones or not rat with the carrier.

Additionally, make fighters give killmails and make it so they cannot warp out of bubbles or when pointed.

Now expalin to us all how well that works when the fighters don't get bonuses from the carrier/mods/carrier pilot?

Which is the entire point. CCP made some not so smart buffs to fighters, that went haywire and the 'fix' is to remove the mechanic that was around before the problem but not the actual things that caused the problem?

That doesn't make any damn sense.

Classic, you didn't understand what you were reading and somehow I'm the Dumpass.

You sir are brilliant.

Why not add a fighter-warping 'switch', like with the new corp friendly fire? A simple option in the drone menu on whether you want to allow your fighters to warp or not.

Somethings in eve are just no sense.

Why remove the assist mecanic?

Risk x Reward not good enough?

But who says it have to be? A man in a tank have a huge advantage against a group of soldiers. I think eve have to be a more scientifical aproach. Make thinks possible like the real world. In same aspects this already happens, then why not expand?

I read some stuff about the tatical cruiser being overrated over bs, but anyone has remembered the T3 it's more expensive than a regular bs, then it's just enough to be better, i can fly a BS in a month, and need far more time to train a T3 to use.

Why i can't anchor a stationary sentry's, near a station or gate or even alone in space?
Why i can't stop a warp in the middle way?
Why ships have to change angle to maneauver?
Why a ship can still cloacked without using it's own energy?
Why a ship can't hide yourself from the communication hub?
Why in the vast universe of eve, the ships have only the aproved design?

So many questions.
I know, i know, the answer to all my questions is game balance, but it is confuse, in one hand CCP want to give freedom to EvE universe, in other, whe don't have really freedom.

Finnaly.

Answering the main question.

I Against the assist nerf. If you want guys make it be necessary to use bandwith from the assisted ship, but atention, if i use my drones to defend a ship that it's not the case, but if i delegate drones, its just enought to have used the bandwith.
Remember the fighter in the game lore, have a pilot inside, it's like a frig, than its just enought to have far more freedom.

As I said in another thread, what really sucks is that nerfs like this limit creativity (while rewarding the uncreative for being...uncreative).

I've used fighter delgation to combat cloaky campers. I fit out a tanked T1 hauler and assigned fighters to it and kept right on ratting, daring the camper to hot drop me and my 9 mil isk worth of ship. This rather than running to the forums screaming "CCP, someone is cloaked in my upgraded system, DO SOMETHING!". Without fighter delegation, that's over with.

Oh, it's not the end of screwing around with afk cloaky camper's heads (my FoF missile+sentries warp core stabbed ECM busrting MJD Typhoons and Armageddons laugh at your false hot drop threat Mr. Cloaky Camper), but it is yet another nail in the coffin of creativity in this game.

Why not add a fighter-warping 'switch', like with the new corp friendly fire? A simple option in the drone menu on whether you want to allow your fighters to warp or not.

CCP Rise and CCP Fozzie are part of the game design team and are not programmers. The Fighter Assist code has likely not been touched in over 10 years when it was put out in the Red Moon Rising expansion in 2006. There are several bugs in the fighter assist code and since CCP has a problem with applying/deapplying skills/bonuses from other grids in the past (See OGB) and the Brain-In-A-Box project, it would probably take incredible amount of time from the development team to get these bugs fixed. At which point, fighter assist will go back to being a marginalized and rarely used mechanic, of which CCP would have now spent hundreds of development hours on.

Assigned fighters do inherit bonuses from the carrier pilot/their ship and the mods fitted.