Hello

Appreciate all the feedback very much.

Based on what you've said here we are planning to leave Fighter warping in, but stick with removing assist.

We hear the concerns about the state of capitals and loss of return on investment from training towards them and we absolutely want to make sure that caps of all kinds are not only viable but exciting and powerful. We still feel this change is necessary, but we are looking into ways to improve on the state of capitals and capital balance. No news on that front for now but it's something we are committed to improving.

Thanks again.

Hello

Appreciate all the feedback very much.

Based on what you've said here we are planning to leave Fighter warping in, but stick with removing assist.

We hear the concerns about the state of capitals and loss of return on investment from training towards them and we absolutely want to make sure that caps of all kinds are not only viable but exciting and powerful. We still feel this change is necessary, but we are looking into ways to improve on the state of capitals and capital balance. No news on that front for now but it's something we are committed to improving.

Thanks again.

Yep, and if you buy a plex in game from someone who has bought it for real $ then CCP does not make another plex sale for real $ right now during this financial month, to you.

Next month is next month, new page in the ledger. That's 1 of the reasons the world's economy is in it up to it's neck.

A sale is a sale even if you just break even. There are always plex for sale and someone is always buying.

Oh and CCP can make plex magically spawn, also rocks, rats, t2 BPOs and an NPC nidhog in nullsec, D-P I think it was - renter space near G3D-ZT

Way to dumb down the game. So much to listening to your player base who have spent MONTHS training for these things.

The least you can do is make it where only interdictor and heavy interdictor's can point a carrier/dreadnought.

Once again; thank you for the finger.

20k is still marginally in range of shields, so I would be happy with 50km. That's too far to slowboat in, not far enough to warp. One would have to be aligned to a safe and be moving to be safer. That is a perfectly reasonable compromise wouldnt you agree?

Super capitals and theirs assists will be possible only to do for other Carriers or Supers. Not allowed for any other small ships.

Drone Bandwith for Supers and Carriers will be incerased, also Fighter and Fighter bombers will reques to use much more Drone Bandwith than now.

Explain > You can't assist Fighters for any other ship with small Drone Bandwith. Only Supers or Carriers have enought space for keep them

Only in this way we can keep Supers and Carriers to be unique, in other way Capitals will be destroyed.

I agree! 20 or 50km doesnt matter, point is, further away than being inside pos shields than 10 seconds.

We still have yet to see a single reason to remove it completely instead of implementing the minimum assist distance from a POS, and making scrams affect drones.

And all messages with suggestions keep capitals at 10-20-50 km from field for assisting I think wrong. Because capital can be at safe spot with alining to pos.

And all messages with suggestions keep capitals at 10-20-50 km from field for assisting I think wrong. Because capital can be at safe spot with alining to pos.

Seems people have realised that ccp don't care on this one and are going to force the changes through no matter what

Or they took it into account and decided each suggestion was not enough so they are going ahead with their own idea but I guess that is patently impossible right...

So with all the capital hate thats going on lately, be it from fighter/bomber scan res nerf, to no more assist, no skynet and warps, give us something to do with our shinies.

All you naysayers of capitals and no risk versus reward hear me out...

Let caps/supers use acceleration gates and dock. no, no hear me out.

1) Acceleration gates....

Also regarding carriers fighters they should work while carrier is in triage theres no logical reason for them to stop moving when their PILOTED unlike drones.

Is a bit silly they just stop responding the moment the carrier goes into triage - they should return to the carrier automatically - but understandable you can't use triage and fighters at the same time as in triage mode ostensibly all the ships capabilities are repurposed for triage operation hence the huge boost in local/remote tank.

This is off topic and irrelevant to the discussion. On top of that you've already posted about it in a different thread.

*Grabs a drink while waiting for an ISD to remove the off-topic post*

but fighters are self suficient warp capable ships with their own pilots. No reason for them to get powered down or return to base

Problem with having a minimum distance from POS is that the carrier will just sit over 200km off the POS and align to the tower. If anything bad is about to happen, instant warp to safety.

Therefore minimum distance will change nothing.

If anything, POS shields need to go and POS's need to be completely redesigned into modular small starbases. Where is that dead horse thread?

Then, it wouldn't matter if you assigned fighters. You'd have a weapons timer and be vulnerable as you wouldn't be able to instantly reach safety.

So with all the capital hate thats going on lately, be it from fighter/bomber scan res nerf, to no more assist, no skynet and warps, give us something to do with our shinies.

All you naysayers of capitals and no risk versus reward hear me out...

Let caps/supers use acceleration gates and dock. no, no hear me out.

1) Acceleration gates. What were the two main blocks for capitals to go into incursions? I mean other than no capitals in highsec. Cyno jammed systems and acceration gates into deadspace. Well cyno jams are meaningless now, we can just gate to gate into the incursion system. Second is acceleration gates.

If CCP allows capitals to use acceleration gates what will that do? It will allow us to do nullsec/lowsec incursions AND escalations. What does that mean for the naysayers? MOAR content. You want more opportunities to hunt ratting carriers? There you go. Carriers in the 3rd room of the Blood 10/10 taking huge amounts of damage from that tower and the mass of battleships will be hard pressed to escape when you come in with your hunting party. HUGE risk. Decent rewards from those 10/10's... Incursions present a different angle, that nullsec mom offers the biggest reward of all, the Revenant BPC. GARGANTUAN Reward GARGANTUAN risk.

Throw us a bone CCP, you want to take all the positives away from carriers? OK we can't stop you, but throw me a freakin bone!

2) Docking in station. This is going to gather probably 6000 "No, just plain no" statements. Well again, listen. If you allow capitals to dock, it will allow those space coffin dwellers a chance to get out of them for one thing and be able to pee vee pee in other stuff. But it will also make those station and sov conquer mechanics more valuable wont they? You still have freeport mode, and that gives an attacker an opportunity to bring in their own capital fleet with a place to put them for good fights. Honestly, I would just like an opportunity to let the damn thing rust and not worry about it for awhile. I mean come on, if you are taking away all usefulness of the stupid things let us drydock them and walk away.

Either give us something to do with them, or give us a way to walk away.

Let the flaming begin.