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Sgt Napalm
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: ace I have followed this thread with interest and dissapointment especially with the current situation, I generally do not post on these topics as invariably it turns out a flamefest for all the anti ISS players who doubt our motives. I have no hidden agendas and cannot be bothered with " ISS SPIN" as some people would like to call it I say it as I see it. My remit for me since joining ISS has been to develop relationships with our local alliances and help provide 0.0 access to players so that they to can experience life out of the empire nursery Unfortunately there are a few ISS who choose to make up their own rules out of the terms agreed and with it ensure the whole organisation suffers. In all fairness D2 and IRON have not contacted me with specific problems with "rogue" members. If found guilty would be kicked. One post earlier in the thread mentioned that ISS knew RISK were setting up in Pure Blind, to you I say yes we did however, they like any other corp were given the same response as per the charter. We do not claim space and cannot prevent you from setting up operations. What you do here is your business. Another post was with regards to Outpost docking, all piots are welcome to dock but understandibly the ones who continually shoot ISS or other pilots in and around the outpost systems have docking rights revoked.
Thank you for your time
ACE ISS Regional Co-ordinator Pure Blind
/signed
ace is a class-act
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Metathron
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:55:00 -
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Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
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Quetzalcoatle
Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Quetzalcoatle on 24/10/2006 20:58:08 I'm a noob in RL Metathron's post is mine
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Butter Dog
If you looked up the word 'neutral' in a dictionary, you would see that it does.
That's bull****. One of the Hague conventions quite clearly states that neutrality means no use of the neutral parties land or facilities. Dunno where you digged your info up but there's only one authority on neutrality in armed conflicts really. IF we want to use RL analogies.
I'm certainly NOT drawing RL analogies. You are.
They do not work. I'm talking about the pure definition of the word.
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El'Presedante
Alcoholic White Trash
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dutarro Forgive my ignorance, but how does LV present any threat to the northern alliances? It is on the completely opposite side of the galaxy from D2, IRON, etc. How does ISS working with LV have anything to do with the North?
other then most of the North are enemies of LV and vice versa. I guess you are missing the whole friend of my enemy thing? or the other analogy of "thy enemy of mine enemy is mine frined." Waiting for the Next Big Target |
Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: El'Presedante
Originally by: Dutarro Forgive my ignorance, but how does LV present any threat to the northern alliances? It is on the completely opposite side of the galaxy from D2, IRON, etc. How does ISS working with LV have anything to do with the North?
other then most of the North are enemies of LV and vice versa. I guess you are missing the whole friend of my enemy thing? or the other analogy of "thy enemy of mine enemy is mine frined."
And they certainly do pose some kind of threat. They pirate the North fairly regularly. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |
Dutarro
Kydance Radiant Industries Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Verite Rendition .. they [LV] certainly do pose some kind of threat. They pirate the North fairly regularly.
OK, this is a grievance that I can at least understand, you don't want to be pirated by people based out of ISS outposts in the north. Hopefully you are already in talks with ISS leaders about how this specific problem can be addressed; if not, perhaps it's time to start talking to them.
*opinions stated are not necessarily those of my corporation or alliance |
splattercat
Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dutarro
Originally by: Verite Rendition .. they [LV] certainly do pose some kind of threat. They pirate the North fairly regularly.
OK, this is a grievance that I can at least understand, you don't want to be pirated by people based out of ISS outposts in the north. Hopefully you are already in talks with ISS leaders about how this specific problem can be addressed; if not, perhaps it's time to start talking to them.
Ok lets talk about that ( talkings good sometimes).
You base in p-2 in pure blind seams to make most of its cash from hostiles attack ppl not 4 jumps away... there no good rats close, no good ore, no reasion to put it there apart from a base for ppl to use as forward ops v us.
Thats where a LOT of bad ISS press comes from... things like this, i know you try to keep every one at 0 standings but you must see this makes you look bad, and when you camp with known hostiles ( ie RISK) then its going to get worse...
Rightly of wrongly this will give you bad press and im pritty certan other arears in sapce have the same problems..
Address this with area standings and maybe things will get bettter.
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insanebe
Caldari carebear Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: insanebe on 25/10/2006 01:31:42 Edited by: insanebe on 25/10/2006 01:31:09 did you ask them not to ? probably not they don't read minds you know lol
everyone should know by now iss are pos miners and as such the money the stations make comes from haulers/freighters docking at the station
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kublai
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.10.25 02:31:00 -
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Paranoid dumbasses.
---------------------------------- Real Gangsta |
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: SaorAlba
Judge for your self my audience. Does D2 not have every right to set ISS at -10?
tbh for the way you spoke to him in local i'd of podded you too :)
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Dutarro
Kydance Radiant Industries Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:57:00 -
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You should really talk to the ISS leadership, I am just sounding off with my own opinion, but anyway here it is:
Originally by: splattercat
Ok lets talk about that ( talkings good sometimes).
You base in p-2 in pure blind seams to make most of its cash from hostiles attack ppl not 4 jumps away... there no good rats close, no good ore, no reasion to put it there apart from a base for ppl to use as forward ops v us.
Most people who use Borealis, the P-2 outpost, are ISS members members who run POSs. Yes, the ore and rats in that area are lousy compared to other 0.0 space, but the moons and ice are good enough, which are the two things most important to a POS operator. It's why our corp (KRIN) chose to move to Pure Blind. The minerals and reaction products made by POSs are bulky, which means lots of hauler trips to Borealis. Just today I've docked my hauler 5 times at Borealis, and my corp recently docked our freighter there for a fee around 3m. It's not a huge amount, but its much more ISK than the odd pirate docking his HAC once in a while. Ideally, Borealis would earn its income from ISS member corps and from northern alliance pilots coming to buy equipment, not from pirates.
I have no idea how standings were determined for the pilots who are hostile to you. Again, that's something you should take up with ISS leadership, and they have shown that they are very responsive to alliance concerns, so your talks are likely to be productive.
*opinions stated are not necessarily those of my corporation or alliance |
arjun
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.25 05:17:00 -
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splattercat maybe it would be good for you to think before hitting the keyboard? sometimes at least. the outpost in western pure blind is the base for the extensive pos network there.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.25 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog I'm certainly NOT drawing RL analogies. You are.
They do not work. I'm talking about the pure definition of the word.
Elaborate, hopefully you should be able to prove how we can disregard social and linguistic conventions because we are now playing a space mmo set in a distant universe along way from here.
Or just give me a reference. I'm honestly interested in finding this out even though to me it's pretty obvious the Hague Convention is the place to go to in this instance. You just took the RL analogy way out because I provided you with it.
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ace
Gallente angels of darkness LTD
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:26:00 -
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I have followed this topic with interest and dissapointment with the current situation in Pure Blind. I just want to say before I comment further that I have no time for "ISS SPIN" as someone mentioned and have no hidden agenda. My remit within ISS has always been to develop relations with host alliances, assist corps to gain 0.0 access and with it experience living in low sec space. Unfortunately we like any other alliances have a minority of members who choose to work outside of the agreed rules laid down in specific regions and consequently ensure the whole of the organisation is affected, in all fairness D2,IRON,etc have not informed me of issues they have with our member corps, any that have arisen have been dealt with swiftly with the ultimate consequence to the ISS corp being kicked. I would like to extend the invitation to all Northern entities to inform me of any further "ISS" issues which you feel compromises your security. Another comment posted was that ISS knew about RISK setting up in Pure Blind, this is true and dealt with like any other corp who have asked to set up in the area which was to respond in the following manner as per our charter:-
:- We do not claim space and cannot prevent you setting up operations where ISS operate. :- What you do in these systems are your business. :- Do not involve ISS in any of your activities without approval from ISS management. Another topic mentioned outpost docking rights I will say that all eve pilots are welcome to dock unles they consistantly attack ISS/non ISS pilots in and around the outpost systems.
All of your comments have been noted and where relevant will be implemented in an effort to regain a working relationship in the North
Thank you for your time
ACE ISS Regional Co-ordinator Pure Blind
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