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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 3534	Posted - 2015.05.12 19:54:25 - [571] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Ares Desideratus wrote: (piles and piles of bull). You are in your right to be a jerk, but then everybody is in their right to think you're a jerk and ask CCP to effin ban you. I have a long career as debater in political forums; have been debating politics for 13 years, have been a moderator, administrator and even owner of a political forum. So I've learned a couple things on the right to be a jerk. 1) you can be a jerk, but only as long as you pay the show: i.e. you can't be a jerk in somebody else's private property if that someone doesn't wants 2) you can be a jerk, but all other users can call you a jerk and have your sorry ass banned (see point 1) 3) jerks fill a important role as source of conflict, but they eventually become a liability when better users quit for their cause, which leads to 2) and 1) 4) jerks are the lowest common -anyone can be a jerk. So, as jerks come for a penny a dozen, all jerks in the world aren't worth the loss of a single valuable user. Which leads to 3), 2) and 1). TL;DR: being a jerk may be fun for you, but eventually it becomes a bad business proposition for the guy who pays the show. And then come the rules to evict YOU from HIS property. Ask erotica1. You really want to get people banned for being mean? Can you not see how stupid and childish that is? Obviously it's CCP's right to do whatever they want, but that is not even close to what this discussion is about. CCP could ban everybody tomorrow based on any dumb reasoning they came up with and it wouldn't matter how dumb it is because they could do it if they wanted. I'm fine with being called a jerk. I'm fine with being called anything you want to call me. What troubles me is that I don't even know where Eve stands in this situation. Could I be banned from this game for being mean? I guess I already know the answer. Since I've been banned from this game already, simply for using the wrong choice of words. Eve likes to pretend to be hardcore but when it really comes down to it it's just a soft, fluffy little circle jerk isn't it? So you're butthurt because CCP spanked you for being a jerk. And rather than learn a lesson which you should had learned yet at this point in your life (unless you're a pre-teen), you blame it on CCP for not being up to your standards... 73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
Dantelion Shinoni SQUIDS. 14	Posted - 2015.05.13 01:07:32 - [572] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: So you're butthurt because CCP spanked you for being a jerk. And rather than learn a lesson which you should had learned yet at this point in your life (unless you're a pre-teen), you blame it on CCP for not being up to your standards... Typical forum mod condescension.
Sgt Ocker Burning Sky Labs 460	Posted - 2015.05.13 01:16:33 - [573] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Ares Desideratus wrote: (piles and piles of bull). You are in your right to be a jerk, but then everybody is in their right to think you're a jerk and ask CCP to effin ban you. I have a long career as debater in political forums; have been debating politics for 13 years, have been a moderator, administrator and even owner of a political forum. So I've learned a couple things on the right to be a jerk. 1) you can be a jerk, but only as long as you pay the show: i.e. you can't be a jerk in somebody else's private property if that someone doesn't wants 2) you can be a jerk, but all other users can call you a jerk and have your sorry ass banned (see point 1) 3) jerks fill a important role as source of conflict, but they eventually become a liability when better users quit for their cause, which leads to 2) and 1) 4) jerks are the lowest common -anyone can be a jerk. So, as jerks come for a penny a dozen, all jerks in the world aren't worth the loss of a single valuable user. Which leads to 3), 2) and 1). TL;DR: being a jerk may be fun for you, but eventually it becomes a bad business proposition for the guy who pays the show. And then come the rules to evict YOU from HIS property. Ask erotica1. You really want to get people banned for being mean? Can you not see how stupid and childish that is? Obviously it's CCP's right to do whatever they want, but that is not even close to what this discussion is about. CCP could ban everybody tomorrow based on any dumb reasoning they came up with and it wouldn't matter how dumb it is because they could do it if they wanted. I'm fine with being called a jerk. I'm fine with being called anything you want to call me. What troubles me is that I don't even know where Eve stands in this situation. Could I be banned from this game for being mean? I guess I already know the answer. Since I've been banned from this game already, simply for using the wrong choice of words. Eve likes to pretend to be hardcore but when it really comes down to it it's just a soft, fluffy little circle jerk isn't it? Wrong again.. Being banned for abusing or threatening someone in chat is not the same as being a jerk in game. Verbal assault is something that needs to be and is dealt with. You can be a jerk in chat without having to resort to the sort of behaviour that will get you banned. Telling someone in chat he is a useless noob is ok. Telling someone your going to "censored" his mother and sisters, is NOT acceptable (to me). There is no "soft fluffy circle jerk". (aside from the those who meet in the broom closet, thinking no-one knows what they are doing ) CCP is doing its best to be a money making venture while at the same time allowing human beings to be the worst possible people they can. We play a game that by design brings out the worst in people, which is a really good thing but; There has to be a line that says; Ok you have gone just that bit to far and moved from the average acceptable jerk to an unacceptable problem. The only ones who know where that line lays, are those who have crossed it and are no longer around to tell us. A little common sense is enough for the "average jerk" to stay below the line of becoming an unacceptable problem. IsBoxer is a prime example of an "acceptable problem" (players competing to be better or worse than the next guy by any means). For years it was tolerated, then a few overstepped the line of acceptable and created a problem. You can be as big a jerk as you like, until your actions cross the invisible line of acceptable. You'll know when you've crossed it, you won't be able to log in. A little common sense will ensure you don't. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Ares Desideratus Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 237	Posted - 2015.05.13 01:24:25 - [574] - Quote Yes, Ishtanchuk Fazmarai, I'm butthurt because CCP spanked me. But it wasn't because I was being a jerk. It was just because I used a special word that apparently has supernatural powers and is capable of evoking exceptional responses. It was one of those "swear" words, you know the ones I mean? People are touchy over that type of thing, man. And contrary to your assertion I did learn my lesson. As far as I can tell I can be as big of a meanie as I want, just as long as I conform to proper language etiquette. I can ** you up the ass as much as I want, just as long as I refer to it as "having some fun". Let's have some fun! Don't be rude! We're just having fun! Don't you wanna have fun? There is no lesson to be learned when people ** with your freedom of speech. Out of curiosity, just what is this life lesson you are describing? Is it, "roll over when the authority tells you to"? Cause I gotta tell ya, I just ain't into doing what I'm told. It bothers the hell out of me. enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 37275	Posted - 2015.05.13 02:09:46 - [575] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: And contrary to your assertion I did learn my lesson. As far as I can tell I can be as big of a meanie as I want, just as long as I conform to proper language etiquette. I can ** you up the ass as much as I want, just as long as I refer to it as "having some fun". Let's have some fun! Don't be rude! We're just having fun! Don't you wanna have fun? There is no lesson to be learned when people ** with your freedom of speech. CCP also have legal responsibilities to follow. The PEGI12 rating on the game requires certain limits: PEGI 12 Videogames that show violence of a slightly more graphic nature towards fantasy character and/or non graphic violence towards human-looking characters or recognisable animals, as well as videogames that show nudity of a slightly more graphic nature would fall in this age category. Any bad language in this category must be mild and fall short of sexual expletives. So if it's reported to CCP, then they kind of have to act. They also have their stricter layer on top of their legal requirements, outlined in the EULA/TOS: You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) So I don't think CCP are into limiting freedom of speech (in game at least. The forum is a different matter perhaps). They, like any business just also take into consideration the responsibilities that come with those rights. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Ares Desideratus Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 237	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:06:54 - [576] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: So I don't think CCP are into limiting freedom of speech (in game at least. The forum is a different matter perhaps). They, like any business just also take into consideration the responsibilities that come with those rights and your decision to break the agreement you made by acknowledging the EULA. That's just a fancy way of saying it, though. It's like, "hey, we don't want to limit your freedom of speech, but if ya say something we don't like, out ya go!" Just cause it's in the EULA does not absolve it. But, I think I see your point, and you are right. I don't condone it, but I have to concede. enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
Jenshae Chiroptera 1493	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:09:58 - [577] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: ... There is a difference between what people do within the game against a character and using the game as a psychological weapon against a player. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Ares Desideratus Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 237	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:24:17 - [578] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Ares Desideratus wrote: ... There is a difference between what people do within the game against a character and using the game as a psychological weapon against a player. How? How is there a difference between these two ideas and who gets to decide when a player's actions become a "psychological weapon"? This is the type of **** that bothers me, where are you getting this information? These two concepts you just described could actually be the exact same thing, just described differently. enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
Jenshae Chiroptera 1493	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:46:20 - [579] - Quote Go Youtube Erotica1 as an example. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 16365	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:11:48 - [580] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Ares Desideratus wrote: ... There is a difference between what people do within the game against a character and using the game as a psychological weapon against a player. How? How is there a difference between these two ideas and who gets to decide when a player's actions become a "psychological weapon"? This is the type of **** that bothers me, where are you getting this information? These two concepts you just described could actually be the exact same thing, just described differently. CCP get to decide, and they've made it very clear that if they're sufficiently motivated, that they will effect that choice. It has been made extremely clear that there is a dividing line between attacking a player character and using the game to attack the player. Or to put it another way, that EVE is only a game, and and that while you're meant to play it as a cold dark ruthless game, that you should have a miminum of respect for the other players. Since you've made it abundantly clear that you have a great deal of difficulty in distinguishing the two concepts, I advise you to tread well clear of overstepping the line, if for no other reason that CCP have also made it extremely clear that even associating with people like you isn't a great idea either, and you've said that you have at least one buddy who enjoys your company in game. I'll try and use an analogy, which I fully expect you to fail to understand and dismiss as "pretentious hipster drivel": American football is a full contact, physical sport, and if you tackle me hard when I'm carrying the ball and I get hurt, well too bad, these things happen and I chose to play the game knowing that they do. But if you stamp on my face after I've lost possession, just for the hell of it, then you'll be off the pitcch, banned for several matches or even for ever, and looking at assault charges. That's the difference between "playing the game hard and if someone gets hurt then too bad" and "being a **": if all you want to do is "be a **" then you can and will be ejected from the game and no one will miss you. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Ares Desideratus Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 238	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:51:32 - [581] - Quote Well I have no respect for ANY of you? What do you think of that? OK, but seriously. These lines, these moral dividing lines, this is some **** up . There's a dark area where I don't even wanna bother peering into. Just as I was thinking, "maybe I'm just a sociopath" BAM, we're treading the territory of sociopaths and line-crossers. Over the course of my life I've become more and more inclined to cross the line, on purpose. You tell me not to do something, and it's gonna make me wanna do it even more. Of course I respect all other people, would never hurt no one, I almost never get angry and am more anti-social than anything. I just hate the idea of following rules. When I'm in public I do the stupidest just because I know people will think it's weird. And I know this ain't about me. I'm trying not to be self-centered. I just couldn't imagine the extreme lengths that some people would go to in a video game. Specifically regarding that Erotica 1 dude. That is some ** up . As **** up as that was, I'm still not sure I agree with him being banned and all of that, but I guess it don't really matter anyway. Also, quit making assumptions about me just because of my stance on this subject. I'm just a fun loving guy who likes to trash his opponents sometimes. enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 16365	Posted - 2015.05.13 06:19:52 - [582] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: Also, quit making assumptions about me. I've done nothing but take you at your word. If you repeatedly insist that you're a ****, and repeatedly asert that you can't see any reaon not to be one, or any difference between playing hard and crossing the line then why act disappointed when people react as though you're telling the truth? I mean actually I'm pretty sure that I know why; you're an emotionally immature little bully who got scared when he suddenly realised that there actually is an authority figure on the playground. It was most entertaining seeing you back up so fast that your shoes smoked. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Aza Ebanu Junkyard Gunners. Strange Phenomenon 35	Posted - 2015.05.13 06:35:50 - [583] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Tiddle Jr wrote: .... So the problem remain the same - does sandbox ready to be turned into a desert? Wurm is a great example where people can have their own village (equate this to a corp) and the average village population is 0-1. I asked a load of people and it seems to boil down to dreams of leading their own group. I see a lot of other guilds and in EVE corps try and die. This points to a dreams of people wanting to lead groups and probably have their own "Null Sec" kingdom. When word spread of how awful the changes are (if they are implemented as described in Fozzie Logic's dev blog) then I think a lot of people will lose that dream and that hope. They might not have it consciously but I think when it is gone it will undermine their reason for staying in EVE so there will be people quitting from other parts of space. I think you are right on the money there.
Ares Desideratus Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 239	Posted - 2015.05.13 07:21:13 - [584] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Ares Desideratus wrote: Also, quit making assumptions about me. I've done nothing but take you at your word. If you repeatedly insist that you're a ****, and repeatedly asert that you can't see any reaon not to be one, or any difference between playing hard and crossing the line then why act disappointed when people react as though you're telling the truth? I mean actually I'm pretty sure that I know why; you're an emotionally immature little bully who got scared when he suddenly realised that there actually is an authority figure on the playground. It was most entertaining seeing you back up so fast that your shoes smoked. I've already been banned from this game, I obviously would like to keep playing. But do you really think I got scared? Like CCP is gonna come in here and ban me for not recognizing the limits of behaviour in this game? I never insisted I was a jerk I just said that there's nothing wrong with being a jerk in this game. Difference. You're a real tough guy though, man, I'm so scared because IT'S POSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET BANNED FROM THIS GAME. Oh no. I don't know what I'm going to do now. I'm scared. Please help. enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 16365	Posted - 2015.05.13 10:01:12 - [585] - Quote Well there was no real need for any extra corroboration, but thank you for taking the trouble to provide it anyway. So anyway, back to the original topic. The new structures devblog looks extremely interesting. Lots of new sand for the box there. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Sgt Ocker Burning Sky Labs 460	Posted - 2015.05.13 10:27:10 - [586] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: Malcanis wrote: Ares Desideratus wrote: Also, quit making assumptions about me. I've done nothing but take you at your word. If you repeatedly insist that you're a **, and repeatedly asert that you can't see any reaon not to be one, or any difference between playing hard and crossing the line then why act disappointed when people react as though you're telling the truth? I mean actually I'm pretty sure that I know why; you're an emotionally immature little bully who got scared when he suddenly realised that there actually is an authority figure on the playground. It was most entertaining seeing you back up so fast that your shoes smoked. I've already been banned from this game, I obviously would like to keep playing. But do you really think I got scared? Like CCP is gonna come in here and ban me for not recognizing the limits of behaviour in this game? I never insisted I was a jerk I just said that there's nothing wrong with being a jerk in this game. Difference. You're a real tough guy though, man, I'm so scared now because IT'S POSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET BANNED FROM THIS GAME .... Oh no. I don't know what I'm going to do now. I'm scared. Please help. You are an *****. And a moron. Go cry to CCP to ban me now. See how very careful you were there "NOT" to cross the line. (using known chat filters to moderate your language is really quite intelligent and takes common sense - just below the line of unacceptable) FYI, if you get banned for crossing the line, it has nothing to do with whether Malcanis is a tough guy or not, CCP make that call. He is just trying to show you the common decency of being forewarned. Already, you are looking for someone to blame for your actions. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 24249	Posted - 2015.05.13 10:46:14 - [587] - Quote Did the topic shift somehow ? S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD Abolish Rookiecorps.
Sgt Ocker Burning Sky Labs 461	Posted - 2015.05.13 10:48:47 - [588] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Well there was no real need for any extra corroboration, but thank you for taking the trouble to provide it anyway. So anyway, back to the original topic. The new structures devblog looks extremely interesting. Lots of new sand for the box there. The concepts shown do look good. Not sure if I missed it or it just wasn't mentioned but can the citadel weapons be manually controlled, like pos guns? Stations for player controlled WH space, a real game changer - No more living out of a pos. Although this; (2nd sentence in particular) Quote: All structures will show on D-scan, can be probed, and will be scannable to see their fittings and contents. We are also thinking of having them visible and directly warpable from the on-board scanner to preserve Wormhole space gameplay. leaves me wondering. To preserve Wormhole space gameplay by making it so you can warp directly to player owned structures using the on-board scanner? Is that not the exact opposite of how WH space is searched now? Corps (many of whom live in wh's and are not in alliances) will not have the benefit of alliance invulnerability timers yet can plant the citadel structures in WH space. Which will be visible to anyone entering the system by simply opening the on-board scanner. That to me does not sound like it is "preserving" Wormhole gameplay but completely changing it. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 24249	Posted - 2015.05.13 10:49:48 - [589] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Well there was no real need for any extra corroboration, but thank you for taking the trouble to provide it anyway. So anyway, back to the original topic. The new structures devblog looks extremely interesting. Lots of new sand for the box there. Reddit seems to be all over it, including lots of false hopes that will get crushed by those who have more power. ^_^ S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD Abolish Rookiecorps.
Sgt Ocker Burning Sky Labs 461	Posted - 2015.05.13 10:53:37 - [590] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Did the topic shift somehow ? The original topic has sort of shifted a few times. People come in, talk about something they wish to express then it moves to something else. Right now, the new structure blog seems a good thing to discuss. And is related to the original topic. (had to read the title again just to make sure ) My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Sgt Ocker Burning Sky Labs 461	Posted - 2015.05.13 11:03:35 - [591] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Malcanis wrote: Well there was no real need for any extra corroboration, but thank you for taking the trouble to provide it anyway. So anyway, back to the original topic. The new structures devblog looks extremely interesting. Lots of new sand for the box there. Reddit seems to be all over it, including lots of false hopes that will get crushed by those who have more power. ^_^ It does seem for the smarter alliances at least, to be a way of at least holding your own against "more power" by positioning your alliance and structures in the right places. The fact no-one can withstand the full strength of a determined blob will always remain but done right, the citadel structures could make losing a lot more fun and costly for the blobs of extreme power. It is in the hands of Devs as to whether the new structures help to shift balances of power or are just pretty pixel sticks with guns. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 24257	Posted - 2015.05.13 11:09:11 - [592] - Quote Sgt Ocker wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Malcanis wrote: Well there was no real need for any extra corroboration, but thank you for taking the trouble to provide it anyway. So anyway, back to the original topic. The new structures devblog looks extremely interesting. Lots of new sand for the box there. Reddit seems to be all over it, including lots of false hopes that will get crushed by those who have more power. ^_^ It does seem for the smarter alliances at least, to be a way of at least holding your own against "more power" by positioning your alliance and structures in the right places. The fact no-one can withstand the full strength of a determined blob will always remain but done right, the citadel structures could make losing a lot more fun and costly for the blobs of extreme power. It is in the hands of Devs as to whether the new structures help to shift balances of power or are just pretty pixel sticks with guns. It's really interesting what they are creating. It will make a lot of people join. I'm even sure as a solo person with actual brain one will be able to actually do something annoying. All the smaller groups lead by wannabe space emperors in highsec ... ... will get crushed as they should ... ... making room for those who deserve it. RvB is a predictable winner here ... ... but oh boy this opens up sk many possibilities of shitting over people. I like it. Combat for structures. I predict they will change wardecs or abolish them for a completely different experience. Because wardecs as we have them now are useless for this. Good tmes are coming... too bad it takes so long until it's done. S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD Abolish Rookiecorps.
Sgt Ocker Burning Sky Labs 461	Posted - 2015.05.13 12:17:21 - [593] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Sgt Ocker wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Malcanis wrote: Well there was no real need for any extra corroboration, but thank you for taking the trouble to provide it anyway. So anyway, back to the original topic. The new structures devblog looks extremely interesting. Lots of new sand for the box there. Reddit seems to be all over it, including lots of false hopes that will get crushed by those who have more power. ^_^ It does seem for the smarter alliances at least, to be a way of at least holding your own against "more power" by positioning your alliance and structures in the right places. The fact no-one can withstand the full strength of a determined blob will always remain but done right, the citadel structures could make losing a lot more fun and costly for the blobs of extreme power. It is in the hands of Devs as to whether the new structures help to shift balances of power or are just pretty pixel sticks with guns. It's really interesting what they are creating. It will make a lot of people join. I'm even sure as a solo person with actual brain one will be able to actually do something annoying. All the smaller groups lead by wannabe space emperors in highsec ... ... will get crushed as they should ... ... making room for those who deserve it. RvB is a predictable winner here ... ... but oh boy this opens up sk many possibilities of shitting over people. I like it. Combat for structures. I predict they will change wardecs or abolish them for a completely different experience. Because wardecs as we have them now are useless for this. Good tmes are coming... too bad it takes so long until it's done. Your right on everything but the time it will take. Yes it will seem like forever but then many have been waiting forever for meaningful change. A little longer waiting for some possibly great changes is worth it. The Citadels level the playing field a little for smaller unaligned groups when faced with a blob. They may still lose the war but the fight could be way more interesting and fun. Citadels can shoot ships, citadels should be destroyed by ships shooting them. Use the entosis link to reinforce it and set the next phase by creating a timer, then one of two thing happens. Enemy turns up with DPS fleet and entosis support to destroy Citadel or they come with Entosis links and DPS support to capture it. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Ares Desideratus Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 239	Posted - 2015.05.13 13:00:13 - [594] - Quote Sgt Ocker wrote: See how very careful you were there "NOT" to cross the line. (using known chat filters to moderate your language is really quite intelligent and takes common sense - just below the line of unacceptable) FYI, if you get banned for crossing the line, it has nothing to do with whether Malcanis is a tough guy or not, CCP make that call. He is just trying to show you the common decency of being forewarned. Already, you are looking for someone to blame for your actions. Actually I wasn't being very careful at all. The bad words get filtered out by themselves most of the time. Like when I say go ** your self. You moronic internet tough guys act like I'm scared to cross this imaginary line. If I was so ignorant before like Malcanis claims why wouldn't I just have crossed the stupid line to begin with? First of all it's because I don't give a **. Second of all it's because there is no reason for me to intentionally get myself banned from the forums. You morons are taking pride in some childish imaginary victory and stroking yourselves with it. It's stupid. I don't need to be warned that I can be banned. I've already been banned. I ain't blaming nobody for nothing. I'm just calling you on your bullshit. Oh I see what's happening. You and Malcanis are afraid of crossing the line yourselves and are projecting this fear onto me. It's OK guys, cross the line if you want, there's nothing to fear. Don't be scared. JUST CROSS THE LINE. I Dare you. What are you scared? Don't be scared! Cross the line! Morons. enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 350	Posted - 2015.05.13 13:47:34 - [595] - Quote Ares Desideratus wrote: Sgt Ocker wrote: See how very careful you were there "NOT" to cross the line. (using known chat filters to moderate your language is really quite intelligent and takes common sense - just below the line of unacceptable) FYI, if you get banned for crossing the line, it has nothing to do with whether Malcanis is a tough guy or not, CCP make that call. He is just trying to show you the common decency of being forewarned. Already, you are looking for someone to blame for your actions. Actually I wasn't being very careful at all. The bad words get filtered out by themselves most of the time. Like when I say go ** your self. You moronic internet tough guys act like I'm scared to cross this imaginary line. If I was so ignorant before like Malcanis claims why wouldn't I just have crossed the stupid line to begin with? First of all it's because I don't give a **. Second of all it's because there is no reason for me to intentionally get myself banned from the forums. You morons are taking pride in some childish imaginary victory and stroking yourselves with it. It's stupid. I don't need to be warned that I can be banned. I've already been banned. I ain't blaming nobody for nothing. I'm just calling you on your bullshit. Oh I see what's happening. You and Malcanis are afraid of crossing the line yourselves and are projecting this fear onto me. It's OK guys, cross the line if you want, there's nothing to fear. Don't be scared. JUST CROSS THE LINE. I Dare you. What are you scared? Don't be scared! Cross the line! Morons. Dude! You are a video game rebel!
Ares Desideratus Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 239	Posted - 2015.05.13 14:00:19 - [596] - Quote Let's all cross the line together. Don't be scared homie! enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 24313	Posted - 2015.05.13 14:02:30 - [597] - Quote Hahaha I've had my fair share of 180s already. ^_^ S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD Abolish Rookiecorps.
0bama Barack Hussein Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.05.13 14:15:27 - [598] - Quote Just as a reminder of topic, numbers don-¦t lie. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility 5 years: 49K online daily (at average) 6 months: 36K 1 month: 24K Pretty big % drops, to me they suggest shrinking number of accounts as well, and so that CCP might be in big problems and now took panic measures in June changes (my opinions of changes are in my last posts in dev blog). Perhaps some of that income from number of accounts has now been replaced by allowing skilling of more than one char in any account. Just like when Elite Dangerous had "offline-gate" (when it launched without promised offline mode at mid last December and many backers took their money back), EvE saw huge spike in new accounts/chars created around that time. Not sure how many of those people have stayed in EvE, but last 6 months averages sure don-¦ t look good. CCP is in a totally new kind of situation, even from view of competition it has and will have as gamers have more choices (not all even Sci-Fi), so it should (have) stick(ed) in what EvE had it-¦s strong points that no other similar games had: Same single server where one is able to build AND rule an EMPIRE. Not to forget being even able to fly (and/or aim to) biggest of ships ever in Sci-Fi, and make some serious damage with them. Best of luck for CCP with their June-gamble, in this financial/business/competition environment they now are they sure need it. -0BH At 11:02 am, Christianity of Nagasaki, and of Japan, was boiled, evaporated and carbonized in a scorching, radioactive fireball. What the Japanese rulers could not do in over 200 years of persecution at Nagasaki, American Christians did in 9 seconds
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 24313	Posted - 2015.05.13 14:19:47 - [599] - Quote Include numbers of bots banned ... data is available ... ... and don't forget MCT which they invited knowing people will consolidate accounts. Averages... they smell. Averages of PCU smell even more, because they completely ignore timezones. S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD Abolish Rookiecorps.
0bama Barack Hussein Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.05.13 14:36:53 - [600] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Include numbers of bots banned ... data is available ... ... and don't forget MCT which they invited knowing people will consolidate accounts. Averages... they smell. Averages of PCU smell even more, because they completely ignore timezones. Ok lets say you are totally right. But still, those averages still hint a bit how much money CCP made compared to past, which matters way more than actual number of accounts/players online, as money is what keeps servers running and employees working at never ending balancing of the game (unlike in some other games, where they need less staff as after they see what is released, it usually is also what they want pretty soon, not in decades like with CCP). At 11:02 am, Christianity of Nagasaki, and of Japan, was boiled, evaporated and carbonized in a scorching, radioactive fireball. What the Japanese rulers could not do in over 200 years of persecution at Nagasaki, American Christians did in 9 seconds

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