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Sathrai
Unlimited Blade Works
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Extregar Qvint Edited by: Extregar Qvint on 24/10/2006 16:19:09 Yea, but then it has 6,5k shields of the bat. Compared to the Ferox what? 3,5k? And still resistance bonus... I envision the stats of this ship will be nerfed in the near future. They are too good to be true :)
Edit: Oh, almost forgot: RIP Ferox, it was nice seeing you in space...
'spect you might be right. RoF + resists is good, perhaps too good. RoF + Range might be a better one.
That said, I've yet to actually _fly_ one, so ... *shrug*. They could give it ibis stats and I'd fly one, because it looks cool.
Ferox is still the rail BC. OK, so not all that many caldari do the 'railguns' thing, but with the Rohk there's a definite incentive to do so now
I haven't crunched any numbers, but my initial inclinations were the same - "wow, this thing looks like it outclasses the Ferox on nearly every level". I can't help but think that things would be better if the resist bonus became a missile or explosion velocity bonus instead; that way it would keep to the gank-centric vibe that these tier 2 battlecruisers are nominally supposed to have.
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JustBlaze
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:05:00 -
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7 heavy assault launchers
ect 
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Extregar Qvint
Caldari JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:12:00 -
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Ah.. that explains the nice shield amount. Didnt think Tux & Co had incorporated the HP boost already! 
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:23:00 -
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It AFK kills angel BS rats (1.1M) just fine with an active tank setup.
Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:26:00 -
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The drake is friggin awsome with heavy assult missiles, had one shooting my poor abadon on the test server ^_^
he reported a ROF of about 3sec, and i belive him Nasty! really really nasty! :D |

Jagaroth
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: North Region Drake vs Nighthawk in DPS, please tell me NH is still better...
Nighthawk does more damage with rof bonus and damage bonus.
Any chance the corresponding command ships could be given the T1 counterpart's model (with different texture ofc!)???  ------
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:38:00 -
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I'm guessing the resist bonus is a place holder. Otherwise what's the point of the ferox?
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Lojik
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lojik on 24/10/2006 19:49:52
Originally by: Jagaroth
Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: North Region Drake vs Nighthawk in DPS, please tell me NH is still better...
Nighthawk does more damage with rof bonus and damage bonus.
Any chance the corresponding command ships could be given the T1 counterpart's model (with different texture ofc!)??? 
OOOO yes plz i want an EOS in the Myrmidon form and Dark Green as well.   
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:19:00 -
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It's...too good.
I'd say at least drop the resist bonus for something a bit more crappy. Perhaps even lose a launcher slot. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |

Majin82
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:35:00 -
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Ahh Thank you, The Caldari get a BC worth taking into PVP vs a Brutix finally.
I just hope the adjust the Turret hard points on the Ferox, making it the railboat it always should have been. Drake, I canĘt wait to fly you, I am going to take you into level 3Ęs and we are going to go Pie hunting in Thelan and we are going to go rattin up in 0.0.
I canĘt wait!
------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild! |

Dwight Hammerhead
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:35:00 -
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Totalally supporting the idea of swapping the models of 1 of the command ships for the corresponding new BC model, Nighthawk having the Drake model, Vulture ramaining as it is, follows the ship general bonuses as well. Pls pls:) _____________________________________________ Too bad at photoshop and too poor to buy a sig |

Kagero Machiko
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:44:00 -
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so then how long after the drake comes in will we hear that its overpowered? lol i cant wait for this beast. i've wanted a proper BC missile boat since BC class was introduced and this is the bestest thing i've ever seen. it looks awesome, it kills things well and it'll defend pretty well. BC lv5 with 7 dread heavy missile launchers plus passiv etank its gonan be great    
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Shar Gath
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dwight Hammerhead Totalally supporting the idea of swapping the models of 1 of the command ships for the corresponding new BC model, Nighthawk having the Drake model, Vulture ramaining as it is, follows the ship general bonuses as well. Pls pls:)
QFT !!!  ---------------
SMOKE BUD MON!!! |

Kilwen
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: North Region Drake vs Nighthawk in DPS, please tell me NH is still better...
Nighthawk does more damage with rof bonus and damage bonus.
yea but NH takes WAY more skills, is T2, and only outdammages Drake with KEs, Drake can use any missles and costs a TON less. (bonus is NH can tank better.
Cerbie and NH do low dammage already compared to their counterparts in other races, why not bost them alittle? Atleast make the Nighthawk a T2 version of the Drake, not the ferox.
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Paigan
Amarr Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku I'm guessing the resist bonus is a place holder. Otherwise what's the point of the ferox?
Thought the same thing at first. What about the ferox if the drake is everywhere better or equal.
But on the other hand: - the ferox is cheaper - the ferox can use a gang module (-> support ship, not combat ship)
So it may still be balanced that it is no match for the drake. -- This game is still in beta stage |

FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Paigan
Originally by: Kyozoku I'm guessing the resist bonus is a place holder. Otherwise what's the point of the ferox?
Thought the same thing at first. What about the ferox if the drake is everywhere better or equal.
But on the other hand: - the ferox is cheaper - the ferox can use a gang module (-> support ship, not combat ship)
So it may still be balanced that it is no match for the drake.
Ferox can easily prod other ships at 100km+ with correct rails setup.
Drake will hit what? 60km for heavies, less for heavy assault.
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |

Paigan
Amarr Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:36:00 -
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But ferox is pointless compared to even t1 sniper megathron / rokh. Even worse, it loses almost all its tank if fitting rails.
So rails was never really an (practical) option for it, even though the bonus. -- This game is still in beta stage |

Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:48:00 -
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The only use for a ferox I can possible see is a sniper platform using a damge cotrol mod as a tank. The drake outclasses it on every other level. Even with my paltry 1 mil sp in missles, and 4 mil in hybrid weapons..... half the missle skills are in light missles also.
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2SecondsTilMidnight
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:50:00 -
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The ferox had too little turret slots to be of any use rail-wise(it was a sub-par missle boat imo). It didn't make sense to have 5 launchers + 5 turrets on a railship.
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Kapitanleutnant Mei
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:12:00 -
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hmm from initial testing on kali i'd say heavy assault launchers definatley need a boost to their capacity- with a 4sec rof you burn through 25 missiles in no time at all and your dps is a bit gimped by this
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MrRookie
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:17:00 -
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Drake with asault missiles and some BCUs  It certainly is a mini Raven
*guy being attacked by a pirat in a complex
Originally by: Noluck Ned *Notify* Concord is on their way to help you, just hang in there, they are waiting for the gatekeeper to respawn
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 24/10/2006 22:21:35
Originally by: Paigan
Originally by: Kyozoku I'm guessing the resist bonus is a place holder. Otherwise what's the point of the ferox?
Thought the same thing at first. What about the ferox if the drake is everywhere better or equal.
But on the other hand: - the ferox is cheaper - the ferox can use a gang module (-> support ship, not combat ship)
So it may still be balanced that it is no match for the drake.
You forgot - Ferox remains a gunship, where drake is a missile boat. That's not going to be everyone's cup of tea I know, but it's a valid reason to choose the former over the latter, especially if you're going the 'hybrid specialist' route up to Rohk.
I started off thinking it might be too sick, but then I remembered how much the Brutix hurts when it's ganking.
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Changaroo
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:24:00 -
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Heavy Assault Launchers maybe on this thing will be like making love to Oveur with lots of lube? Easy?
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Britannica
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:42:00 -
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this could be a nice cheap effective close range PvP missile ship, the 5% resists may let it get close enough to use scramblers or even webbers and still stand a good chance of winning
I'll be testing this with corp mates as soon as I can get one
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Humera
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:52:00 -
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I am getting one for lvl 4 missions. Will probably buy the T1 BPO and build me a few once they hit TQ. Gisti kit the Duck (sorry I mean the Drake). Close range and nasty with HAL's.
Regards,
Humera ---------------------------------------------------- "Ruck, Tackle and Maul. And thats just getting a Beer" |

XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:04:00 -
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this ship is going to out dps the raven. 2-3 second rof on missiles each hitting for about 100 damage x 7 launchers, good bye gallente stuff in close combat. passive tank this bugger and it will be imune to nos/high dps (cus it has 5% resistances) and dish out a nasty payload.
can anyone please tell us the drawback to this ship + assault launchers?
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:09:00 -
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its slow, as agile as a beached whale and has a huge sig? ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Changaroo
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson this ship is going to out dps the raven. 2-3 second rof on missiles each hitting for about 100 damage x 7 launchers, good bye gallente stuff in close combat. passive tank this bugger and it will be imune to nos/high dps (cus it has 5% resistances) and dish out a nasty payload.
can anyone please tell us the drawback to this ship + assault launchers?
Fitting it all together. Somewhere there has to be a catch.
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Humera
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Humera on 24/10/2006 23:14:41 Me really wants a T2 variant on the drawing board soon!!!
Regards,
Humera
P.S. I agree with Grimpak it is pure sex....need sex now. Scampers off to bed to bother the old lady.  ---------------------------------------------------- "Ruck, Tackle and Maul. And thats just getting a Beer" |

Flipidy Floo
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:52:00 -
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Maybe, just maybe the T2 Caldari ships will become halfway sensible, and HACs in general will lose some of their rediculous market prices.
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