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Rockbox
Amarr
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rockbox on 06/11/2006 16:29:53
 Originally by: Estan Drake
Originally by: Grey Area
So...we have a module that is about to become the most crippling module in EVE, and some NUMPTY posts that it's not enough. I lost my temper. Sue me.
They were just ****ing and moaning that they couldn't gank everyone all the time without a little bit of skill. God forbid they actually have to chase somebody or use the scanner.
I'm sure they will find something else to whine about after the WCS changes as well. "Nerf warp.. they keep warping away while I try to snipe them from outside of sentry range!"
I think the nerf is just about right, however I find what you say insulting, as for over six months I have actively saught out targets both in low sec empire and 0.0, I have gate camped around 3 times in that six months I have been into hundreads if not more belts and busted missions (which take alot....ALOT of work to scan down) only to see around 75% of all my targets warp off. If some one goes through the trouble of finding pvp when others wont engage him at their will, they should at least be rewarded for their efforts alot more than they are at present.
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Zixxa
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rockbox
I think the nerf is just about right, however I find what you say insulting, as for over six months I have actively saught out targets both in low sec empire and 0.0, I have gate camped around 3 times in that six months I have been into hundreads if not more belts and busted missions (which take alot....ALOT of work to scan down) only to see around 75% of all my targets warp off. If some one goes through the trouble of finding pvp when others wont engage him at their will, they should at least be rewarded for their efforts alot more than they are at present.
Are you finding PvP??? It is quite easy. Go to the GW or to the Catch. Or where now RA is fighting? You will have PvP. And you will have ****ly good PvP. But you will be dead. Again and again. And full rack of unnerfed WCS hardly save your ass when Lotka or RA decides to pop you.
You are finding easy targets to kill. Not PvP. And you are whining that noobs(only easy target for you) are fitting WCS. Be more honest. We need fix of WCS exploiting, not total nerf.
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phillie blunt
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:43:00 -
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best nerf ever!
this nerf is needed... I was fighting a thorax with 5 wcs and a apoc with 6 wcs WTF is that...
thanks ccp for this nerf
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Rockbox
Amarr
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:55:00 -
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My idea of good pvp is not bobbing or being blobbed by some one 
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2006.11.06 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zixxa
Or where now RA is fighting?
Not really the best example now is it?
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Guillaume Yu
Gallente
Freelance Assassins
Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
2 stabs on a vagabond brought a Vagabond from 60 Km lock range to 16 KM.
WOOT!
Now they will have to stand and fight.
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Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rockbox
Edited by: Rockbox on 06/11/2006 16:29:53
I think the nerf is just about right, however I find what you say insulting, as for over six months I have actively saught out targets both in low sec empire and 0.0, I have gate camped around 3 times in that six months I have been into hundreads if not more belts and busted missions (which take alot....ALOT of work to scan down) only to see around 75% of all my targets warp off. If some one goes through the trouble of finding pvp when others wont engage him at their will, they should at least be rewarded for their efforts alot more than they are at present.
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This guy is why the WCS nerf is too much. When he says "pvp" what he means is "easy ganks against unsuspecting noobs". He doesn't actually want real fights he might lose, because he wouldn't have any trouble finding them.
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DiseL
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Posted - 2006.11.07 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: DiseL on 07/11/2006 00:30:30
Unfortunatly most people think about this as how it will effect them directly and not the game in general. I agree with the nerf for PVP purposes but this will absolutely handcuff noobs in low sec and mission running. Most noobs must fit warp stabs when jumping into Level 3 or 4 missions for the first time while their skills are low. There is no way I could have finished numerous missions early on solo and I would have never survived some occasional low sec ratting against much higher skilled players. It is ridiculous that guys complain about other players running when they are obviously out shipped, out skilled, out fitted, and out experienced. It is going to be just about impossible to do anything offensive with stabs (unrelated to PVP), which will make the learning curve much more difficult for the younger players.
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2006.11.07 03:58:00 -
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Well instead of crying. I'll just say, that I fit WCS's because I can't get anyone solo. I can't get anyone off a gate. I can't get anyone off a station. Everyone holds hands thus I can't kill anyone because they got to much support. So I balance out there support with WCS's.
Now if that's the wrong reasons to fit WCS's then sue me. I just want to make it somewhat balanced. Noone fights solo anymore and it's the only way you will get me to fight. I'm not suiciding for anyone. Double web works wonders, and so does knowing how to tackle. :)
I hope CCP will release more solo ships that wont be monopolized by the major alliances so us solo guys can have decent ships to to umm gate to gate pvp without putting a 500million isk dent in our wallets.
P.S
PvP in EVE has died. It's all about the gate camps and bigger fleet blobs :p
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Zixxa
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Posted - 2006.11.07 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Zixxa
Or where now RA is fighting?
Not really the best example now is it?
Certainly not best, but good. Lotka/Veritas and RA are formidable enemies. And they can give some lessons of PvP to anybody "mommy-me-pvper-too" very-very quickly...
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Kamazani
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.11.07 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Kamazani on 07/11/2006 14:38:48
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Eilie
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Eilie
WCS nerf does nothing since logging out still isn't an exploit... 
Does nothing?!... You got to be kidding me.
I personally meet 50013 times as many wcs *****s, compared to logging-out-nubs
But now they will all log out instead... 
I doubt it. Ive flown a few combat ships with WCS in the past (Ishtar etc) and never logged. I dont log because it's a matter of decency. You're playing a game. If you get caught, live with it. Dont logout, you just ruin other people's fun.
haha... the irony.
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Gort
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.11.07 17:57:00 -
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Blockade runners will be even better than before.
Every dark cloud brings a rainbow somewhere. 
I now fit nanos rather than wcs on my Vaga, but will just leave the ship in the hanger more than before. Its one great feature -- going solo against stupid odds and then trying to get out -- will be mostly finished. Flying a Vaga is still the most fun you can have with your clothes on, though.
I think folks miss the point in over-talking the WCS/Vaga issues. It's the BE Raven fit madness, and others like it, that needed addressing, imo.
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